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ekster — Orient Express - WIP I

Published: 2005-12-19 09:53:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 2839; Favourites: 15; Downloads: 263
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Description Many have asked the process in which I create my vector pieces, so this time around, I decided to do something a little different It's not quite a tutorial, but rather, snapshots of how I lay out my ideas when creating vector scenes.

Inspiration
I'm still in that dreamy nostalgic mood and I've been looking at old posters and photographs of the vintage luxury trains. I was chatting with a friend about saving up some money someday to do a grand travel tour in the luxury cabin of the Orient Express, and at that point, I just felt like doing a piece about it. So I sketched out some random ideas just to get some visuals going and figure out perspective stuff.

First Panel
Lines, lines and LOTS of lines! I figure out in my head how I'd like to have the walls, windows, seat and table setup and I make some rough guiding lines and create an abstract template for myself. It actually feels a lot like architectural drafting at this point. Sure, it looks kinda messy and some people wonder how the hell I make sense of it, but it helps me! I kinda like the initial technical approach and it really helps me see what I want to do. At this point, if I feel like changing the entire perspective of the scene, it's still pretty easy since all I have to do is move a couple anchor points around and shift lines. For this piece, I'm going with a two point perspective, and you can kinda see where the vanishing points lead out to.

Second Panel
Now that I'm satisfied with the guides I've put in, I begin creating different layers and start creating the basic shapes following the guiding lines. Oh, and here's something important that I should mention: I always have the 'Smart Guides' turned on in Illustrator. It REALLY helps in pinpointing anchor points and intersections so that the illustration can at least be technically perfect. When creating all the different shapes, I don't really focus on color just yet. I just roughly choose a few base colors that I might use, but most of the time colors always get changed anyway. I make sure all the base elements have distinct colors so that I can differentiate them.

Third Panel
Now that I have the base elements placed in the illustration, I start figuring out the mood I'd like this piece to have, and start placing the gradients for the appropriate pieces. I start adding some basic details just by playing around with how the gradients perceive a shape or object. I added a curtain by the window which was something I didn't initially plan on, but it's something I like at the moment. Basically, the ONLY thing I pre-plan in the beginning is just the outline of the scene itself. All the little details and objects get added spontaneously as inpiration and ideas happen. At this stage, nothing is set in stone yet.

So the basic scene is done, but there's still a lot of things that I am going to do. There's definitely going to be a passenger sitting there, and maybe some random bits of luggage or personal belongings on the table.

Go to WIP II...
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Comments: 42

mootsie [2006-06-14 18:10:55 +0000 UTC]

This was really interesting. I always hope, when I see a good work, that I'll be able to see the WIP. So, thanks alot!
I'm also using lots of lines (circular lines) to create illustrations (well, I'm on my first with the style I'm experimenting), but for me they're not just helpful: they are an essential part of the drawings. And yes, people cannot understand mine "bunches of lines" too...that's quite normal
Hope to see some more WIPs in the future...and again: great work!

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ekster In reply to mootsie [2006-06-15 13:12:52 +0000 UTC]

I'm glad that you've enjoyed looking through the WIPs as much as I enjoyed creating them. This one was my first attempt at it, and definitely not the last. I hope to make a couple more of these in the future since I've found that sharing the process is really quite enjoyable and in a way rewarding And thank you once more for the kind compliments!

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mootsie In reply to ekster [2006-06-15 15:42:28 +0000 UTC]

Can't wait to see them, really...and you're welcome!

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phrantyx [2005-12-22 06:12:43 +0000 UTC]

I've seen the WIP 2 of this and very very amazed at the amount of work you put in. You probably are just as organized as I am, when I do layouts, I use lots and lots of guidelines. When people look at my work with the lines, they were like, "That got me dizzy. How could you put up with those lines ?" and I don't know how to explain to them, they just helped me with my design.

Another thing, about the patterns, where do you get the inspiration/ideas for them ? Do you just randomly play with shapes, or do you research before creating any ? Because I want to create some, but I don't know if I create just randomly, it'd be meaningless, I'd like my work to hold some relevance, but that's just me, too much of a perfectionist sometimes.

Sorry if I asked too much, just I thought that you were the one who holds the most experience in this

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ekster In reply to phrantyx [2005-12-22 09:52:10 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so very much for sharing your thoughts and your experience as well Indeed, some people can't figure out heads or tails from the lines, while other people like us can actually make sense of it

As for the patterns, I actually like to do a little research first in constructing them. Most of the time, ideas happen when I'm at a bookstore and just browsing through books. If I see something I like, I'll just quickly sketch it in my sketchbook. I also have this little cool book that talks about pattern geometry and shows examples of pattern designs and such and that helps A lot of designs are based on circular geometry, especially arabesques. There's a design rule called "6 around 1" that uses five circles around 1 center circle where their center points all intersect with the tangents, and you could do some really neat stuff with that template

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phrantyx In reply to ekster [2005-12-22 10:38:16 +0000 UTC]

The explanations on the pattern designs are extremely helpful. I'll be sure to take a look around everytime I'm in the bookstore

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seafaringgypsy [2005-12-21 01:29:34 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm...first of all, this is going to get a fav and I'll explain why.
I've always loved behind the scenes, complete studio recordings and stories about how things happened in the artistic world. This is dope because you've showed the how's and the directions you wanted to go. Sometimes the method is a little more exciting than the finished product.

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ekster In reply to seafaringgypsy [2005-12-21 07:27:04 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so very much for the kind support and fav and I'm glad that you've enjoyed looking at the process I love looking at the creation process as well, and for some artists on here I really like seeing their sketch book pages and scans of their ideas. It definitely shows a lot more than what you'd simply see at the surface of a finished piece, so I definitely agree with you

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eerieflake [2005-12-20 18:05:34 +0000 UTC]

wow, amazing the way you build an image

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ekster In reply to eerieflake [2005-12-22 03:15:44 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much!

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Giver [2005-12-20 10:26:27 +0000 UTC]

Oh wow. That's really cool how you do your vector pieces! I guess I never thought about guide lines and stuff. The end product looks great. ^ ^

Oooh...Luxury trains are so great...I've always wanted to go on one too. I mean, I always see them in games, or in books or anime and it loooks just so dang cool. -^ ^-

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ekster In reply to Giver [2005-12-20 16:35:32 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for such wonderful comments as always
Yeah, one of these days I *WILL* book a ticket for a long luxury train ride. It's just one of those things on my "stuff to do before I die" list hehe. Even if humanity starts building spaceplanes and such, there will always be a place for trains since they are so timeless.

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Giver In reply to ekster [2005-12-20 23:49:04 +0000 UTC]

You're so welcome! I love commenting on your artwork.

That's so great. I think I need to make that list of "stuff to do before I die". *lol*

They are definitely timeless. Nothing will truly replace them.

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paintmepinkshop [2005-12-20 07:24:23 +0000 UTC]

wow, this is great!

~N

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ekster In reply to paintmepinkshop [2005-12-20 16:33:21 +0000 UTC]

Thanks so much

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pnayplayr [2005-12-20 05:36:49 +0000 UTC]

neat!

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ekster In reply to pnayplayr [2005-12-20 07:05:14 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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FixMeKnow [2005-12-20 03:24:17 +0000 UTC]

amazing at the amount of work you put into it!

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ekster In reply to FixMeKnow [2005-12-20 04:04:40 +0000 UTC]

Thank you
What's crazy is that there's even *more* detail as I'm working on it right now!

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Trish2 [2005-12-19 16:27:39 +0000 UTC]

This is a beautiful piece in itself. I was just looking at the lines and wondering about the program you use, because I thought about how I'd do it in photoshop... then I remembered you use Illustrator and the smart guides confirmed it. When I took a class in Illustrator 10 I really found those smart guides very handy. Ah heck... I have illustrator 9... maybe I'll take a stab at using illustrator again. Its been a while... but I have many 3D projects on my plate before I do that. Thanks for the inspiration though

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ekster In reply to Trish2 [2005-12-19 17:20:20 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and for the kind compliments Illustrator 9 would definitely be able to do it as well, I didn't use anything fancy that's specific to the latest version. I've just been utilizing all the stuff I've been used to since Illustrator 8, so things are mostly pretty old school Well okay, maybe the one new thing I really like using is the perspective transform stuff, but I think that's in version 9 as well if I remember right.

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Trish2 In reply to ekster [2005-12-19 18:27:27 +0000 UTC]

guess I'll have to find out or... gasp upgrade

And I have no idea if Photoshop CS has smart guides either... but yeah... I should just convert my vectors over to illustrator... even though photoshop does a fine job with them... for the most part I don't really do anything special in photoshop for vectors that couldn't be done in illustrator... I just find photoshop more comfortable. Guess its time to move out of my comfort zone, eh? LOL

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ekster In reply to Trish2 [2005-12-20 04:03:59 +0000 UTC]

Hopefully there won't be any need for an upgrade
Yeah, the initial progression into illustrator can feel frustrating, but once you get used to how the program works, it is seriously *easier* for vector stuff than photoshop, plus you are able to do a LOT more

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Trish2 In reply to ekster [2005-12-20 15:18:13 +0000 UTC]

oh LOL I beg to differ. The pen tool itself in both almost works exactly the same really. Ironically it was because of the class in illustrator 10 I started using the pen tool in photoshop at all. Since then its been a godsend.

What frustrates me in illustrator is that some of the controls are just sever so slightly different than in photoshop. I can't do the things in illustrator that I can in photoshop and that's probably just because of my lack of familiarity. The frustration comes in where I go: ok this is how I'd do (whatever) in photoshop... then I go to do the same in illustrator and the options are just not there... The interface FEELs familiar... but it just isn't quite the same. LOL. Kinda like two cousins who look an awful lot alike. You have an expectation that's just not there.

The amount of styles I have in illustrator are pretty limited, where I got a ton in photoshop. But like I said before, you've inspired me to take a new look at illustrator. Heck if I can work in poser so much and learn as much as I did, Illustrator really can't be all that tough. Unfortunately I had to drop the class in illustrator I took about 3 weeks into it because of a sudden move to another city. I would have liked to have finished that class. Bet I would have been working in illustrator more! Again, thank you for inspiring me to look at illustrator again.

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ekster In reply to Trish2 [2005-12-21 09:04:11 +0000 UTC]

Ahh yeah, I can relate to that You're used to doing something in a certain fashion and when you try do those same things in another program, it turns out completely different because the keys and layout is just a little off. It can definitely be quite unsettling!

Heh, kind of like when I moved to Malaysia from the states and noticed that everyone was driving on the wrong side of the road And then I tried driving - "Hey, why is that car driving directly towards me?"

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Trish2 In reply to ekster [2005-12-21 14:59:39 +0000 UTC]

ROFL!

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kimoz [2005-12-19 16:19:37 +0000 UTC]

which program do u use?

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ekster In reply to kimoz [2005-12-19 17:15:36 +0000 UTC]

Currently, I am using Illustrator CS

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felipebatera [2005-12-19 16:16:30 +0000 UTC]

thanks for sharing it man... great technique.

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ekster In reply to felipebatera [2005-12-19 17:14:42 +0000 UTC]

And thanks so much for having a look!
Making the panel and writing about it was pretty fun too

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CapnDeek373 [2005-12-19 13:29:31 +0000 UTC]

Sweet! I haven't done anything requiring serious perspective and vanishing points like that since...
well, it's been a loooong time!
The insights to how you do your work should proove invaluable to many.
And yes! smart guides rule!
At the very least, I always use snap to point!

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ekster In reply to CapnDeek373 [2005-12-19 16:04:38 +0000 UTC]

Perspective is fun!
Hehe yeah, those guides get pretty handy when there's lines and stuff all over the place and you need a good reference
And thanks so much for the as well!

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CapnDeek373 In reply to ekster [2005-12-19 18:18:06 +0000 UTC]

T'was a pleasure!

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deepbliss [2005-12-19 13:15:06 +0000 UTC]

It wonderful, although I dont know anything about vectors...

one thing I know, is that I like your work.

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ekster In reply to deepbliss [2005-12-19 16:02:22 +0000 UTC]

Aww thanks so much for the lovely support my dear

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deepbliss In reply to ekster [2005-12-29 12:50:40 +0000 UTC]

You are so much welcome.

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Zhaana [2005-12-19 10:22:04 +0000 UTC]

wow amazing !!! I'd have never imagine to use the guides to do perspective with them LOL So nice idea !!! I'm looking forward the second wip Eka !

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ekster In reply to Zhaana [2005-12-19 10:25:21 +0000 UTC]

Merci beaucoup! Guide lines are definitely my friends, especially for stuff like this hehe

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Zhaana In reply to ekster [2005-12-19 10:51:12 +0000 UTC]

lol ^^ ohh French now ? xD

Yeah i can imagine, oh and smart guides ^^ I use them too sometimes

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derurasu-horigotomo [2005-12-19 10:00:00 +0000 UTC]

ok now im just amazed, oyu made 3d lines into a inside a car rail or insaide of a resteruante im just amazed how that good you are doing such awsomeness ^^

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ekster In reply to derurasu-horigotomo [2005-12-19 10:07:08 +0000 UTC]

Thank you so very much for the most kind words my friend!
The scene is inside the car rail of the Orient Express, or at least it's my take on what it looks like
The bigger challenge later though that I'm tryin to figure out, is how to give the outside scenery a sense of motion!

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derurasu-horigotomo In reply to ekster [2005-12-19 19:23:36 +0000 UTC]

ohhh thats gonna loke more awsome i wish i can do such easy vectoring like you T__T you hell good ^^ but keep up the awsome work ^^

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