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GlassBottleDemon In reply to ??? [2013-08-11 03:04:39 +0000 UTC]
They just want attention, don't bother.
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Deep-Strike In reply to ??? [2013-08-10 23:24:57 +0000 UTC]
LOl, troll and hypocrite XD
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gdpr-16864305 In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-11 00:55:15 +0000 UTC]
Holy crap, your icon's gonna give me a seizure. xD
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Caradoc88 In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:28:14 +0000 UTC]
This is making my night work go faster and way less boring.
Good catch on the troll group. How did you know it was them and where did they troll you?
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Deep-Strike In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 23:31:17 +0000 UTC]
Don't worry I'm so use to this community, I kind ofΒ know how it works now.
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Usually, that was the point I through humor, tried to make there : the-macho-man.deviantart.com/aβ¦
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When a huge amount of people start shit against youΒ in a very short amount of time, someone most likely featured you somewhere.
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Caradoc88 In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:41:41 +0000 UTC]
Makes sense.
Besides all the nudes, over the last few years, I have noticed dA has had a flood of immature kids saying crap and acting like they are smart or something. Not a good thing imo. Lowers the quality of the site and several artists I use to watch has left.
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Deep-Strike In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 23:42:37 +0000 UTC]
So did I
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I came like 1 year and a half ago, and a lot of people keep telling me that DA is no longer what he used to be, and gosh, it's actually quite a relevant statement.
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Caradoc88 In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:51:41 +0000 UTC]
Sad but a true statement. It takes time for me now to sort through all the trash on dA to get to the good art I use to find easily. I don't see it changing anytime soon unfortunately, except for getting worse.
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Deep-Strike In reply to ??? [2013-08-10 21:43:46 +0000 UTC]
Again, you have to earn respect, even for your beliefs. It should never be given by default. Else, you and I would have to give respect to people would hold beliefs that are hateful, malicious, and truly evil.
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No need to be a Christian to agree with this.
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abellius In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:04:31 +0000 UTC]
Thanks for the support. I thought I was having a civil discussion with someone on an old post, and the next thing I know I get a barrage of angry atheists and a satanist!! Geez, I'm just waiting for the "Papers, please" comment for stating my opinions!
I still have no idea what a natural right is and who grants them that people are referring to.
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Deep-Strike In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 23:06:16 +0000 UTC]
Man, all these morons are coming from . Check the comment section, you are featured already by the same cunt who featured me as well.
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You are doing a good job, keep blocking them like I did and they'll get bored eventually
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Don't worry about having an opinion, it's perfectly fine, and you are not a bad person for affirming yours.
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abellius In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:14:48 +0000 UTC]
Ahh, that explains things. Anti-free speech assholes and the original person I thought I was having a civil conservation with reported me there. What an ass. This proves to me that these so called atheists are just typical immature twats and assholes. I was wondering why I was getting so many comments to this old post in a buried response thread.
I'll keep stating my opinion. I'm not going to let a bunch of children act so though by spamming me with their nonsense. Maybe I should contact dA about them harassing me.
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Deep-Strike In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 23:15:46 +0000 UTC]
So will I, dude, so will I ...
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abellius In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:26:59 +0000 UTC]
Reported. Doubt anything will happen. If you disagree with me that is one thing, but to send trolls after me, that just immature child behavior as well as being a coward. Which isn't worthy of any respect btw!
Though, this trolling is nothing compared when I said something to a pokeman group they didn't like. Now, that caused the pitchforks to come out!!
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Deep-Strike In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 23:28:44 +0000 UTC]
I totally feel you dude. Although I'm not really religious myself, I'd never bully someone for being so.
As you said, respect must be DESERVED (I even made a stamp stating this ^^).
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People like this should be blocked and totally ignored. And of course, you should totally report them like you did, if they cross the line
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abellius In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 23:34:39 +0000 UTC]
These trolls are definitely confusing courtesy and politeness with respect. I'm an old guy, so I know the difference.Β And, they think I'm a Christian on top of it when they have no clue what my faith is. Also, I don't bully people on dA either, but I question what people say for I don't think they truly understand what they are saying sometimes. Must have struck some nerves!
Got to check your stamp out.
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Deep-Strike In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 23:39:16 +0000 UTC]
This is how I feel too.
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WoodLily In reply to ??? [2013-08-10 21:29:47 +0000 UTC]
Google Ads knows what you've been up to Todd.
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abellius In reply to WoodLily [2013-08-10 21:33:43 +0000 UTC]
Yes, Sherie. You know how I like when you stalk me since you cannot control your urges. Do I need to send your special friends over again to help you with your...ummm...issue?
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endler In reply to ??? [2013-08-10 18:40:21 +0000 UTC]
I give you points for being the first Christian I've seen to imply that people out of your faith aren't even human.
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abellius In reply to endler [2013-08-10 18:57:45 +0000 UTC]
Who says I'm a Christian? And, please exactly explain how I equate people of any faith are not even human? What are natural rights and who determines that if you are not referring to nature?
Btw, project much?
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Antivistical In reply to ??? [2013-08-10 18:33:40 +0000 UTC]
Respect for beliefs and opinions is a given for everybody, and anybody who thinks that way instantly loses respect, considering the fact it's basically saying 'I don't like your opinion, and never will, I'll just learn to deal with it after a few months', which isn't respect. I respect the beliefs, opinions, and rights of everybody. I am a Satanist, but I guess that means I shouldn't have human rights because I must be hateful, malicious, and above all, evil? Right? No.
Respect others = Respect. It isn't something you earn, it's a given until people start to disrespect you/friends/family/etc. You don't go into someones house and refuse to respect their house rules and their possessions until you're friends, do you? No, you don't.
Atheism is having and being of no religion, IE total free will to thoughts, actions, morals. Religion is more restricting on rights and morals and free thought for the most part. Considering Atheism doesn't make someone 'nature' or an 'animal', but a HUMAN, then of course they get natural rights. [No] Religion doesn't dictate whether you get treated like a human or not- especially in countries with multiple primary Religions.
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abellius In reply to Antivistical [2013-08-10 19:20:08 +0000 UTC]
So you respect the beliefs of Westboro Baptist Church members, people who are members of the KKK, people who believe that homosexuals need to be killed, people who do act like jerks and treat people like scum, and serial killers who like eating people. Because that is what you are saying to me. And, where did I say Satanists shouldn't have human rights? Projecting much?
Respecting others doesn't guarantee respect in return. Also, you may be confusing courtesy with respect when it comes to dealing with people and their property such as their homes. I have been in homes where I have no respect for the owners, but that doesn't automatically equate for me to start trashing the place and stealing stuff. And people who don't respect you, will not respect your property or home. But, even then, that doesn't automatically equate them stealing and breaking your stuff. Again, you are confusing respect with courtesy.
You are wrong. Atheism is the belief that there is no God or gods. And, it is a religious belief and it is the core of what an Atheist believes when it comes to their religion and religious views. Yes, it is a religion. It may not be organized like the good old ones that have been around for a long time, but over the years they have been doing a good job trying to act like an official religious institution. Also, how does a human get natural rights for being born? Who determines what these natural rights are? Humans, which are subjective, or something else? And, what do you mean exactly that no religion doesn't dictate whether you get treated like a human or not. Also, please include how that assumption works under Islam and the Koran when it comes to non-believers of that faith.
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Cruel-Quillish In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 20:32:44 +0000 UTC]
Of course, I respect the beliefs of everyone as long as they aren't endangering the lives of other human beings, even if I don't believe it myself. It's something good to do, and I'll tell you, I learned that it was a good thing to do without God telling me so.Β
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abellius In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-08-10 20:44:06 +0000 UTC]
But, that is different when someone says they respect the beliefs, opinions, and rights of EVERYBODY.
I also, I don't agree with your statement for 2 reasons:
1. I know you don't respect jerks, a-holes, and people who are doing things that aren't endangering the lives of other human beings but are still committing acts that are considered bad by society. So, your statement is not true. Unless, you are like Mother Theresa.
2. Learning that something was a good thing to do is different that understanding that it is a morally good thing to do. Big difference. You might learn that kicking puppies and chopping off their heads is a good thing to do from your parents and peers. It doesn't mean it is a morally good thing to in a society. And, you can't judge or know what you think is good unless you have something to compare it to.
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Cruel-Quillish In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 20:53:45 +0000 UTC]
1) A lot of those people are just ignorant, or they have had some very bad lives that have made them into very tough people. They are irritating, but I still at least try to respect them and try to understand why they are the way that they are.Β
2) Uh, okay, so are you saying that respecting other people's beliefs is not a morally correct thing to do? But no, I discovered what is morally correct in society without any God as well. I also developed my own set of specific morals for myself to follow, like, for example, it is morally right for me to try and understand other human beings and to research all sides of an argument before choosing what I think is more morally correct and scientifically accurate.Β
I compare my morals to morals of people coming from any religious background, including people with no religious backgrounds. I look at the facts and I think about what would benefit society and then make my moral decisions based on that alone. I do not follow a God blindly because I know that religious text was written by men, who are flawed, and therefore could have made mistakes or could have twisted the work to suit their purposes.
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abellius In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-08-10 21:18:23 +0000 UTC]
Trying to respect someone is different from respecting someone. Again, it shows me you don't follow your initial response to me. Please don't confuse courtesy and politeness with respect.
What determines respecting other peoples' beliefs is not a morally correct thing to do? You, your peers, you parents, others, or a religion? Respecting or not respecting other peoples' beliefs means nothing unless you give it something to compare and judge it by. We could live in or create a society where respecting other peoples' beliefs is a bad thing and kicking puppies is a good thing to do. So, I stand by my original statement and expanded it a little - Learning that something is a good thing to do is different than understanding that it is a morally good thing to do on an individual, societal, and spiritual level.
You are right, Man is flawed, which means you are as well. So, be careful not to follow yourself blindly and twist things to suit your purposes.
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Cruel-Quillish In reply to abellius [2013-08-10 22:28:38 +0000 UTC]
You seem to enjoy telling people what they do and do not feel. I'm wondering if that stems from a lack of self confidence, so you feel the need to control those around you and always be right?
My morals are my own, and I created them by my own free will by exploring all possibilities.Β
You're the only one twisting things here, buddy. You're being cruel to me without being provoked in any way, and that's because you have your own morals, and they are very twisted.Β
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abellius In reply to Cruel-Quillish [2013-08-10 22:32:07 +0000 UTC]
Projecting much? I don't have the problems that you are projecting on to me. I'm questioning what you are saying. If you find that offensive, then why reply to me?
Yes, you are correct. Your morals are you own. But, don't tell me if they are good or bad until you can justify them through reason instead of "learning" them.
I'm not being cruel to anyone. If you wish to take offense to it, then that is your prerogative. I didn't start talking to you. And, I didn't twist anything you have said. If so, please state exactly where I have.
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abellius In reply to abellius [2013-08-11 01:20:17 +0000 UTC]
I see you did the comment and block tactic. Oh well, here's my response to you.
Yes, you are projecting by saying things about me in your first sentence in the previous reply. How is it not? You know nothing about me and what I'm truly thinking.
You are saying that I'm hostile for some reason. I have been civil and didn't use any swear words. Yes, I do question what you are saying for words mean things. And, yes, you entertain me as well if it makes you happy. Unless you are being petty, then you are just an ass.
Again, happiness is subjective. Some people are happy when they hurt and murder others. Some people are happy when you abuse them. Just because something makes you happy doesn't mean it is good, and it doesn't mean it is evil either. You say you learned good vs. evil. I questioned if you learned your moral code like a robot or accepting things at face value, or you actually think and reasoned if something is good or evil. I never got a good answer btw.
I don't have good social skills? I stated you don't follow your own words for I know you don't due to simple human nature and sociology. And, YOU butted into my conversation with someone else, so don't act all superior and holy when I reply back to you. If you didn't want to hear what I have to say, then you shouldn't have said anything to me. You are not allowed to do run-by comments without responds here. Doing so makes you childish and immature. Furthermore, how am I being uncivil in our conversations. You are the one not following your own words that you are typing, not I. If you don't want to be called out on it, then don't write things you don't mean.
Again, what words did I twist? I see you complaining, but I don't see you being informative.
I'm not disrespecting anyone, all I see is a bunch of trolls coming from a dA group at the call of one their members over a question I posed her. If anyone is being disrespectful, it is you and your friends by your trolling and acting all high and mighty accusing me of being in the wrong. I was wondering why so many people were responding to a 5+ old month post and in an obscure response thread buried within it. Also, you are the one feigning cruelty and whatever offense I have committed against you. I see none and I have no qualms with what I said to you. It appears you have thin skin and want to start fighting and trolling.
The only thing I see funny here is how you have to defend some other dA user who I thought I was having a interesting conversation with. Also, I find it funny you keep saying I'm cruel, but all I asked is questions and been civil about it.
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Cruel-Quillish In reply to abellius [2013-08-11 00:03:25 +0000 UTC]
I'm not projecting it onto you, I was just questioning why you would be so hostile and question everything that everyone said. I reply to you because frankly, you're also entertaining to me.
They're good because they've put me through life in a way that makes me happy and makes people around me happy as well. If you question happiness and everything good in the world, you'll find yourself becoming very depressed.Β
You don't have a grasp of social skills, do you? It's not so much a crime, but I think it would do you well to learn some basic social etiquette. Essentially calling someone a liar and telling them that their morals are flawed without even knowing them is, in fact, bad social etiquette and very cruel. You didn't start the conversation, but in replying you technically did start talking to me. If you didn't feel that you could be civil and respect someone else's opinion without tearing it apart and telling them that they don't know their own mind, you shouldn't have replied to begin with.Β
You literally just did, because you implied that I claimed you were twisting my words. I just implied that you were twisting something, and it was not my words. It was more of you attempting to twist my morals, tell me my own mind is lying to me and twisting your own effed up morals.
If you believe someone has to earn respect from others, how come you're treating people in a way that makes them disrespect you? Seems a little funny, don't you think?Β
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-08-10 19:05:19 +0000 UTC]
Hidden by Owner
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Caradoc88 In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-08-10 21:29:51 +0000 UTC]
Looks like someone is have a baby tantrum.
And, do you talk this way to people in real life face-to-face. You must be fun at parties. /sarcasm
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 22:22:29 +0000 UTC]
Did you even read the rule, you moron?
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Caradoc88 In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-08-10 22:25:41 +0000 UTC]
Still can't stop acting like a jerk with all the insulting statements.
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 22:26:56 +0000 UTC]
Still can't stop sticking up for people who can't argue themselves.
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Caradoc88 In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-08-10 22:43:56 +0000 UTC]
Looks like he's doing ok to me. I guess he didn't want to deal with a jerk like you.
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 22:47:40 +0000 UTC]
If he didn't, he shouldn't have posted a comment like that in a public domain. Same to you.
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Caradoc88 In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-08-10 22:51:37 +0000 UTC]
Isn't this forum public?
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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 22:52:23 +0000 UTC]
Yes, it is. I just said that.
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Deep-Strike In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 21:54:04 +0000 UTC]
You have no idea, dude.
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Indeed, don't even try to block her, she'll cry. xD
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Sorry to come into the conversation, but that's fun because I faced the exact same thing like ... 10 minutes ago.
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Caradoc88 In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 22:12:17 +0000 UTC]
You must be replying to the wrong person.
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Caradoc88 In reply to Deep-Strike [2013-08-10 22:43:16 +0000 UTC]
You refering to GlassBottleDemon?
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Deep-Strike In reply to Caradoc88 [2013-08-10 22:45:22 +0000 UTC]
Exactly.
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Just check JCB's profile, you'll laugh.
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