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Published: 2013-03-22 22:22:13 +0000 UTC; Views: 5609; Favourites: 167; Downloads: 133
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Something quick I did today for fun.
The idea behind this is that joy is found when you put Jesus first, others second, and yourself last.
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You were right. She's a 15 year old bisexual woman. That explains the foul mouth. Must be frustrated with her life.
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15 years old ?
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8 years old *
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Also, considering that she has no life, I highly doubt she has something to be frustrated with
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Ouch...LOL!!
Her journal says 15, but she acts like she is 8. And, to be honest, I don't think she knows what being a bisexual truly is. I think she is most likely sexually confused like most kids her age.
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Major harsh, dude. You don't question someone's sexuality. Unlike with what you might think, by the time you hit puberty, most people already have a definitive sexual orientation. Hell, I had already known that I liked girls more than guys when I was eight.
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I question anything I like your highness. You're not my keeper and you are not the head of the moral police. And I see you like to butt into other peoples' conversations just like an old woman that no one gives two craps about. Look here everyone, it's other person from that Bull Crap da group rushing to the aid of one of her friends. Boo-hoo, I must be a big meany. Geez, that girl was doing fine job making a fool of herself without your help. Do you wish to double down and make it a hat trick along with Pickles Cat to see who can be the worse troll summoned here tonight? LOL! What should expect from children.
Sure you knew you like girls more than you like boys when you were 8. Right... Maybe your sexual deviancy is a reason you like butting into conversations and say stupid things like you do. Btw, what critical peer reviewed research do you have to back up your orientation claim? Good luck on that.
Oh abellius and caradoc were "cruel" to me (quoted from you)...wah wah. Geez, how pathetic. Reading your comments between him and you almost brought a tear to my eye. Oops, nope, that was a speck of dust. My mistake.
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Probably, but it's not like I'd give a shit about her sexuality anyway, lol !
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Neither do I, but it may explain why she's a tossbag jerk.
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Hey, I got on the Bull-Crap hit list now - comments.deviantart.com/4/1551β¦
I'm famous and I even got GlassBottleDemon to stop responding to me. Even todays' new attack trolls can't troll like to use to in the old days.
That Bull-Crap group needs to go. All it does is attacking other dA users whose opinions that it members disagree with in a typical brown-shirt, mob-like fashion. Very sad imo.
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Lol, you don't seem to understand what an opinion is.
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If this person's comment ticks me off, then I can tell them that. If he's so butthurt that he blocks me for saying 'fuck', then that's his problem.
And I like your response - yes, my IRL self is totally related to this conversation. Mhm.
To answer your question, I talk like this to everyone. Can't handle it? Fuck off.
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Boy, you must really be butthurt. And...that is my opinion of you.
You know, swearing in every reply makes you look like an immature teenager on a tantrum. You definitely don't come across as a mature adult. LOL!!!
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Says you. Why are you white-knighting for this other person?
Yeah, you look really mature when you punctuate everything with LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. What are you, five?
Instead of commenting on my 'potty mouth', why not try and provide an educational debate that actually shows what your opinion is? If you're just here to bitch about my writing style, I'm going to ignore you.
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White-knighting? Nah. You're the jerk causing a tantrum here and being all foul. And, you call me 5 years old! LOL..that must make you baby then!
I haven't seen any intelligent or educational debate coming out of your foul mouth yet. Until then, why would you expect me to provide one?
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I'm not the one that said atheists don't have a way of getting natural rights.
Maybe because your buddy blocked me over my 'potty mouth' first. I'm not going to argue with you, you're clearly even more retarded than they are.
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What's the hell is a natural right? Is Earth giving you some rights for being alive? If it isn't the earth, then who determines these natural rights you speak of. And if it is the Earth, who determined that the Earth gave us natural rights? Sounds like a bunch of bs to m.
He's not my buddy. He probably blocked you for being a potty mouth. Acting like a foul-mouth kid doesn't earn you any respect or brownie points.
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FUCK SHIT PISS ASS FUCK DAMN BANANA
Offended yet?
I don't want your respect, haha. You sound like an immature brat who thinks his age means he is automatically right.
Bye~
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Offended? Nah. You haven't said anything I haven't heard before. I find this entertaining while my work compiles for processing.
I didn't realize you were a kid. That explains your attitude. Do your parents know you are on their computer?
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durr, bettr white-knight for this guy bcuz i can lolololol
I never said I was a kid. I called you an immature brat.
I've got better things to do than to argue with overgrown white-knights, so bye.
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Your profile says you are 16, so you are a child! This explains a lot!
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Yes, because being able to drink, drive, and vote in a majority of countries makes me a child.
And thanks for the pageviews!
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Still a child with a childish attitude.
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Who said I was a Christian? And where did I say atheists are intolerant assholes? Project hate much? And, you are probably a kid under 25 for your attitude is typical of American kids who cannot control themselves on internet forums.
Since you do come across as an instant a-hole with a closed mind and a potty mouth, I don't see any reason with talking with you from this point on.
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All humans have natural rights at birth. It's the basis for every declaration of human rights on the planet. Goodness and humanity are not theist-exclusive and to believe so is very ignorant.Β
I also believe you have a fundamental misunderstanding on what I mean for respect: my beliefs aren't harming anyone, and to degrade me for them is to be kind of an asshole, discourteous and disrespectful. I suppose what I meant by respect is the absence of disrespect.Β
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How do humans get these natural rights without a god or supernatural being when they are born? Who determines these rights? Oh yes, other people do. Your natural rights are determined by a society of other human beings, and thus, these rights are subjective for there are no standards under Atheism. What you believe are considered natural rights isn't necessary considered the same by everyone under Atheism for it's all subjective. And, that's one of the major flaws of Atheism, everything is subjective, even your morals. Also, what you think is good may be evil to someone else and vice versa. Who determines what is good or evil under Atheism? Is there some (holy) book that declares what the standards of what is good and evil are under Atheism? If I'm being ignorant about a certain aspect of Atheism, please enlighten me because if gods or some higher power are not giving you your natural rights, man is determining what your rights are. If man is not determining your natural rights, then you are not a true atheist for you are letting some "power" giving you these natural lights.
No, there is no misunderstanding on my part. I think you are confusing respect with courtesy. Your beliefs determine who you are and they are part of your character. You cannot separate your beliefs as some sort of separate entity from who you are. They are a part of you. Thus, again imo, you have to earn respect, you cannot demand others to give it to you by default. Else, if I follow what you are telling me, you and I would have to respect the beliefs of the Westboro Baptist Church members, people who are members of the KKK, people who believe that homosexuals need to be killed, and people who do act like jerks and treat people like scum. Is that what you are suggesting everyone should do? Respect all beliefs? Also, how you can't say that your beliefs don't harm anyone with 100% certainty. Just because you don't see any negative reactions from other people of what you believe in and how you follow them in your daily life, that doesn't equate that you are not harming anyone.
Btw, I'm not trolling here. I'm being civil and respectful in this discussion since it kind of turned into one and I have no problems learning different viewpoints. So, please don't talk what I'm saying as a personal attack.
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"Who determines what is good or evil under Atheism?"
Atheism is just the lack of belief of a God and/or higher being like a God. There is no book or Atheist meetings telling people what rules Atheist must live by in order to have a fulfilling life like most if not all religions do becuase Atheism isn't a religon, it's a lack of religion.Β
The only true rules Atheists follow are the laws of their country, mainly because they're just there to protect one another or their parents teachings "treat others the way you want to be treated yourself". Of course some Atheists will break laws but that's the individual as would if someone from a religion broke a law. Β Some times some Athiest will make up a rules for other Athiest but it's not a law everyone MUST follow, it's more of a "if you want to follow it you can" type thing.Β
So overall Atheists learn what is good or evil from their countries laws and from their parents rather than from a book or a God of a religion.Β
Is that helpful?
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You must be behind the times. In USA, atheists have meetings halls, monuments, and pushing their various atheist books to be the main one to be used by all. They also have a holiday and they have argued in court cases that atheism is a religion to get what they want. So again, tell me how Atheism is not a religion when it is a religious belief and they (atheists) are acting more and more like an organized religion like Christianity and Islam?
Now, you are totally wrong about atheism. It's not the lack of religion, it's the belief that there is no God, gods, or higher supreme powers. Big difference. Atheism is a religious belief and their religion is based around that belief. Atheism don't need to have all the fancy stuff like the old current established religions to be classified as one, but it is a religion and a religious concept nonetheless. Btw, everyone has a religious belief once their understand that they are going die one day. Saying someone doesn't have a religion is disingenuous unless that person has mental issues where they cannot comprehend the the concept of religion. But, for everyone else, we all have a religious belief and religion we follow. Even if it is a religion for just that individual.
Morality is subjective to an atheist for there is no standard to what is good or evil. Just because atheists follow the laws of their country doesn't mean that those laws automatically equate to that their moral code is. Atheists determine what they think is morally right and wrong on an individual level and they are the final and sole arbitrator of what their moral code is. It doesn't matter if they learn it from their parents, peers, or countries' laws. It's irrelevant where their moral code comes from for there is no moral standard under Atheism. Btw, if an atheist learns what is good or bad from his religious parents, is he really an atheist anymore for he would be following the tenets of a religion?
Lastly, you admit that atheists can make moral rules for other atheists to follow, which further indicates that their moral code is very subjective.
Actually, no it wasn't helpful. It tells me you don't understand what Atheism truly really is. Sorry. Hardcore atheists have given me better responses than yours.
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I- no.Β I really do believe you've gotten this all wrong.
First off, in the USA does not equal all Atheists in the world. What Athiests do over there is them as a individual or group of friends not all Atheists. You should stop generalising, this is where you're going wrong. It's like saying because the WBC picket funeral of dead soilders ALL christians do this too.Β
"Β Atheism is a religious belief and their religion is based around that belief..."
Atheism has never been a religion I don't know where you got that from but because a lot of people came to the same conclusion that there may not be a God doesn't make it a religion. Loads of people beleieve they will wake up tomorrow, is waking up a new religion too?Β
What holiday do Athiests have please? This sounds good.
"I once wanted to become an atheist, but I gave up β they have no holidays" Β Henny Youngman
"Btw, everyone has a religious belief once their understand that they are going die one day... "
No, you have one doesn't mean everyone has one. There are loads of healthy people, including scientists who do not believe in anything, everyone know's their going to die one day doens;t mean they're all going to bow down to a God because of it.Β
Again, Atheists do not have a moral code of their "group".Β
Assuming you're from America you've learnt everyone has freedom of speech. This came from your government, not the bible or religious book. universially, you've learnt to be polite to everyone (learnt) this came from your parents, you've learnt that pushing people around is bad - School. These are all things you know are both good and bad. None of these really came from religion just how to live peacefully with everyone else.Β
Btw, if an atheist learns what is good or bad from his religious parents, is he really an atheist anymore for he would be following the tenets of a religion?Β
You've never heard of only learning the good Morals of stories? There are many Christians who only follow the morals of the story like to love thy neighbour but don't go to church or bleieve there is really a God. The Atheist isn't a Christian but they follow how to treat others from what they read.Β
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"Lastly, you admit that atheists can make moral rules for other atheists to follow, which further indicates that their moral code is very subjective."Β
They can make them the same as a religious person can say you should go to lest say Church everyday.Β
But then again all morals are suggestive depending on what country you live as well.Β
Also there's no real thing as a "hardcore Atheist".
You should stop making things up just to suit your views.Β
- Athiest
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Sorry, I disagree. I bet if I start looking at atheists from around the world, I will see that exact some thing.
Sorry, I disagree again. Atheism is a religious belief and religious concept. Therefore, according to the dictionary it is a religion. Having a God isn't a requirement to be considered a religion. Heard of Taoism and Scientology?
Now atheists in USA do have a holiday - National Day of Reason!!
Everyone has a religious belief, even if you belief there is no religion. Simple logic if you want to go to that extreme. You cannot deny that humankind has religious beliefs. Saying otherwise is foolish and disingenuous.
Your statement doesn't address that Atheists moral code is subjective and can be totally different from the laws of the societies they live in and what the grew up learning.
What determines a good moral vs. a bad moral? So your saying atheists just read a book and that determines what is right and wrong without any thinking on their part? You still haven't addressed what is considered good and evil and who determined it.
Not all moral are subjective. Under Atheism it is. Under the tenets of Christianity, Islam, and other major religions it is not. They explicitly state what is good and evil. Haven't you read any religious books?
It seems you don't really know your own religion of Atheism that well. Please state your case better.
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Oh I forgot, I was going to give you thisΒ www.youtube.com/watch?v=93MfGZβ¦
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Irrelevant. I'm not going to entertain any videos. If you have anything to say, use your own words.
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So you do go to meetings to discuss your religion, just like any other religion. Gotcha.
Where did I say how an atheist is suppose to think? All I said is that an Atheist's moral code is subjective and there is no standards to it for any Atheist can determine what it is for himself. If I am wrong, please prove it to me. Also, if you are saying Atheists are acting like a group when it comes to their moral code, then you are admitting that Atheism is more of the religion than you want to.
You can block me if you want for I don't see any reason to block you. Aren't we having a conversation and being civil about it or not? I only blocked that one jerk who couldn't control his potty mouth and I knew off the bat he was an a-hole and had no interest in any civilized conversation, and of course, the spammer. I don't block people I disagree with. Do you?
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Linking to things is to prove i'm not talking out of my ass when trying to tell you things.Β
You not wanting to clink links makes it look like you just don't want to be proven wrong so you claim linking is wrong when it actual fact it could explain everything up faster and easier for you and the fact that you don't seem to post any links to your claims don't help me believe in anything you say.
You said you wanted to understand Atheism and I told you the general idea of Athesism , that they have no belief and they are individuals that came to the same conclusion instead of a religion, being Atheist myself, but you decide it's not true based on what you yourself believe in which tells me you didn't want to understand Athesim to begin with, you jsut wanted to start a fight, forcing what you believe an Atheist should be.Β
The youtube link is basically what your argument sounded like and Atheists explaining what it really is to them. If you had watched it you would have understood it better being that video was pretty recent.Β
"According to their official literature: "Scientology is a religion that offers a precise path leading to a complete and certain understanding of oneβs true spiritual nature and oneβs relationship to self, family, groups, Mankind, all life forms, the material universe, the spiritual universe and the Supreme Being."
"And they conventionally revereΒ Lao Tsu Β both as the first god of Taoism and as the personification of the Tao.
Nonetheless, Taoism has many gods, most of them borrowed from other cultures. These deities are within this universe and are themselves subject to the Tao."
See, links help.
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Refusing that I didn't want to follow your links doesn't equate me to being wrong or you being right. It proves that you are lazy and-or don't know how to debate properly. And, no, I'm not going to follow your propaganda YouTube link. If you are going to link something that is credible besides the dictionary, then it better be peer reviewed or else its just bs propaganda opinion like your YouTube link. Sorry, you don't win here.
Atheism is the belief that there is no gods or deities. It's not the belief there is no religion. Get your facts straight and check the dictionaries. I believe the dictionaries and theologians before I believe any definition you are willing to give to me about any religion, which includes Atheism for it is a religious belief. If it isn't a religious belief and not a religion, then what is it and what does it pertain to? It's not a political or social thing, it's a religion thing. Saying otherwise is disingenuous and a crock.
I'm wrong about Taoism. I meant Buddhism.Β And Scientology has alien gods, which is different from the typical god mantra. My point still stands. I bet if I use my google-fu I can find more religions without gods, but I only need one to prove my point. What was yours again?
Again, no matter how you deny it, atheism is a religious belief, which leads to your religion for you have one regardless how you say you don't. And, I find it interesting how you attend meetings and do videos just like any other religious group to state your views on religion to reach out a get more converts. Therefore, I further conclude that you act just like any other religion out there. Not it comes down if you have different sects of Atheism like all other religions do. From your replies to me, it appears to be so. How interesting.
I leave you with a quote by George Carlin about religion - "For a while, I thought of myself as an atheist until I realized it was a belief too!" Amazing how comedians can make complex things simple sometimes.
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All I need to be happy is my sweetheart nex to me. And no, she isn't Jesus, I can tell you.
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that is your opinion 
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Oh, I read your description, and that makes soooooo much more sense. I thought the message was "Jesus others you" but I was understanding "others" as "offers" and that just totally confused me.
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haha! Yeah, I can see how it would be kinda hard to read. lol!
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And I realized I said nothing about the deviation. It is simple, to the point, and striking. Well done!
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What if I'm a satanist. :c
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I would say that no one forced you to comment on my artwork.
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id rather put myself first, rational thinking second and hope last...
no room for faith.
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understandable, as one look at your profile reveals your complete indoctrination into the fairytales of the bible.
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I've studied the Bible and found it to be true. Have you studied the Bible?
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yes i have, i found it to be ridiculous and full of wishfull thinking.
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Interesting. Did you look into the historical, scientific, and archeological evidence?
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... you think there is historical, scientific, and archeological evidence?
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