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ADDENDUM: Natural horses are becoming a bit more prevalent in the show, especially among stallions, so the part in my above tutorial on body markings and "natural" style ponies is becoming a bit obsolete. So, I amend my rule on body markings to this:On body markings: Subtlety is key. Keep markings to simple, medium-large sized shapes. Note, though, ponies in the show with body markings include Luna, Pipsqueak, Troubleshoes, and Sunburst which are all supporting ponies. As an OC should follow more of a background pony style, if your OC has a bit of body marking, markings should be pretty much the only unique thing about your pony else it will stick out a bit more than it should.
ADDENDUM #2: "Times are a Changeling" directly contradicts what I've said about "nice" changelings in this tutorial. So that part is now null. However, it still stands to reason that changelings aren't unique in body or shape, so if you decide to create a changeling, manes and tails are still a no go. Start with the basic changeling shape and you may alter slight things, but nothing drastic. That is all. If you are making a "new" changeling, there are several body types to pick from, but you should stick with the overall aethetic.
ADDENDUM #3: "Campfire Tales" shows a unicorn from a "Chinese" pony culture that has a curved horn; multiple gradients on her horn, feet, and ears; as well as a flowing Celestia-like mane. This was on a "main character" of her own storyline, and is extremely unique. So if you decide to use multiple traits like this on your pony, recognize that it might still be "Mary Sue" because your pony is not a pony of legend. One of these traits could be used properly, but it should be the only unique trait your pony has.
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I state it in the tutorial, but I'll state it again here, all of the above are my opinions. Feel free to disagree on every point if you wish! These are just "rules" and tips I've found over time that make for a show-accurate, like-able, "good" OC. Feel free to comment with your own suggestions, or links to other helpful tutorials. I'll start compiling a list here!
Also, I'm always happy to help with developing OCs, so feel free to comment asking me for suggestions, help, a "rating," or anything else! I'll always note it to you.
Quick list of things to avoid (in order of unforgivableness):
- Black (any black at all) anywhere but the eyes
- Fully Saturated colors
- Alicorns
- Recolors (i.e. using the exact same mane shapes as canon characters--normally from pony creator)
- Blank flanks past filly/colt
- Dead parents
- Personal close relationships/familial relations/romatic relationships with any canon character
- Heterochromia (two different eye colors)
- 100% white anywhere but the eyes (tints of white are fine)
- Dual colored wings
- Having zero flaws in personality
Avoid ALL these things. Change them if possible.
Helpful links:
[link] - Think you'll ever consider getting a plushie made of your new OC? Naz's "How to Make a Plush Friendly OC" is a MUST read if you want to avoid sticker shock!
[link] - This lovely lady has a growing collection of tutorials for creating an OC, including how to choose a body shape for your OC. She also gives private ratings through a note on your OC!
[link] - Ever want to combine colors that "don't go together"? This is an OC example of a red/blue combo (normally terrible) that I find absolutely brilliant!
In the tutorial, I included some OCs that I feel are a cut above the rest and exemplify what a "good" OC can truly be, whether they follow all the "rules" or not. (If any of you would like me to remove your OCs or art from the tutorial, just let me know!)
Ocean Blossom (c) Jojuki-chan
Art (c) Jojuki-chan
Glittering Cloud (c) Centchi
Art (c) LittleKittyNeko123
StarStruck (c) ZowieStardust-MLP
Art (c) Zhampy
Changelings and Art (c) Siansaar
Star Ace & CM (c) tinuleaf
Starlight & CM (c) Emkay-MLP
Phoe's CM (c) PhoeKun
Art (c) furriKira
Rosey Cheeks (c) GLADlON
Art (c) Centchi
Rink Runner (c) pepooni
Art (c) Wicklesmack
Peppy Pines (c) pepooni
Art (c) pepooni
And, as always,
I don't like to spam profiles with "Thanks for the !"
So, in advance:
MLP:FiM (c) Hasbro
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CometStarlightPony In reply to ??? [2017-11-16 23:18:17 +0000 UTC]
I think that a "I never had any friends" backstory could work if you were setting up your OC as more of a Twilight-like character, i.e. an introverted character, not a LIEK DIS IF U CRI EVRY TIM character.
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equinepalette In reply to CometStarlightPony [2017-11-17 05:20:54 +0000 UTC]
Even introverts will have friends as children. And even if they don’t have any close ones, it won’t be presented in a negative way like “I never had any friends...” It would be more like, “I mostly kept to myself as a foal, and that’s just how I liked it.” Combined with the other queues that this is an intorverted character, it won’t come across as a negative childhood experience.
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CometStarlightPony In reply to equinepalette [2017-11-17 12:25:38 +0000 UTC]
Oh, that makes sense!
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Rainbows2424 In reply to ??? [2017-11-14 12:58:30 +0000 UTC]
I used your tutorial to help create my OC. Tell me what do you think of her. It would be helpful!
My Main OC,Azure Acrylic
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equinepalette In reply to Rainbows2424 [2017-11-14 15:50:49 +0000 UTC]
Her colors are in the right hues, but she is WAAAAAAAAY too saturated. Her colors are almost neon. As well, I’d use a different color for her eye to make it “pop” a bit more, and change the cutie mark. Paint palettes are overused and it’s too complex as well (too many paint splotches on the Palette). I’d also get rid of the necklace. As is, she’s got four accessories (one now, a necklace, and two bracelets) and that’s a bit much. She’s a great start, she just needs a few tweaks.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-08-27 09:47:10 +0000 UTC]
Just to let you know: The Scarlet I'm doing now is a different Scarlet from the Beast Hunter Scarlet, this one is the Wildlife Researcher Scarlet, I just kept the name. And the new pics are just rough sketches and not tided up in places.
Old Scarlet Beastblood
New Scarlet Beastblood
Things I've changed: Hairstyle & tail, personality, job, clothing and backstory (Which is still being written but you basically summed it up) and I think that's about it. I'm only being so persistent with her is because I still feel like she has a chance and I'm determined to make her just right. And by restarting with a new Scarlet, it could help with things. So just forget everything about the old beast hunter Scarlet and let's refresh with a new wildlife researcher Scarlet. And from what I see of her right now, my gut tells me that she's coming around and I think she looks really nice, much better then the old Scarlet actually.
Clothing: Her clothing was based of one of the ponies in the tutorial because they both have a nature aspect to them and people who work with nature and/or wildlife usually wear those kind of jackets, or something similar anyway. With the pics I've linked, there's one with 90% of her clothes and the other with everything. I could be able to make her official without wearing any clothes, but I do like the clothes though and I think they go with the theme. If she can have clothes, which one you reckon? But you would know what's the better option.
90% Clothes
100% Clothes
Info: She barely leaves the house these days cause she's too busy doing research. She those also enjoy her hobby of drawing pictures of animals & creatures, and placing them all over her cabin which is arty, which is something that a unicorn would do. Plus sometimes when you are writing research, sometimes you have to do some drawings as well, and she got better at it over the years and chose to do art of wildlife as a hobby. Those two take up the majority of her time, especially studying herself now that she's become a Werepony, but she's never told anypony and her Werepony research remains secret, except Luna in that dream we discussed before but alterd for the new story. And I've seen that some wildlife researchers like to do draw the wildlife so I'm sure that that's ok with Scarlet. And she only leaves her cabin for research and to get food/water/etc from the outdoors or at Ponyville, stuff like that. Her cabin is located in the middle of the Everfree Forest, and when she climbs a tree in te forests she can see Twilight's Castle from far away thanks to her new enhanced eyesight.
This probably won't work because it not her MAIN thing though she does it half of the time, but could having her arty traits give her some reason to her body? Or maybe when she's little she loved drawing and learning animals and all that and she became a wildlife researcher and drew wildlife as a hobby? I dunno, I'm just trying to give more reason for her body.
And that's basically her right now summed up. Improved? I hope so. You gave me the story which you thought you would fit and now I've finally went with it, I've given her the job you told me to give her, and you said that they would go with her being a Werepony and have it work. And now it's just her appearance that needs to be completed, with no doubt has been hardest part in her entire creation and I'm determined to get her right.
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-08-27 11:58:45 +0000 UTC]
I think you're on the right path, but yet again you need to dial it back a bit, mainly with all the talents.
First of all, stop trying to justify her body type by tacking MORE stuff on. You're not going to find any justification for it with the direction you're going, and you're not going to get rid of it, so just accept it and move on. So don't harp on her artistic talents just to try and justify her body. Sure, some researchers draw sketches in their field journals when they're on expeditions and discovering/researching new species, but you shouldn't be talking about how she decorates her cabin with all her artwork and how she does art as a hobby. That makes her sound like an artist in addition to being a researcher, which gives her two big talents, which is unacceptable. You can mention she likes sketching in her journal as she conducts her research, but don't make it a major part of her character.
Also, she doesn't have enhanced vision. You're giving her extra powers, that's not okay. Furthermore, if anything, a werepony would have a heightened sense of smell, not eyesight. Don't try to make her werepony side give her special superpowers.
As far as her design, do the sweater if you want. Honestly, at this point I don't really care. She's going to be overly unique no matter what I tell you, because that's what you like. There's no compromising. If you're wanting me to point out other things, though, the streak hanging down in front of her face is messy and unnecessary, and find a different cutie mark; pawprints are desperately overused.
I'm sorry, but at this point I'm kind of done. I've gone above and beyond to try to help you, and basically designed your OC for you through boatloads of revisions, which is something I usually charge for. I can't help you anymore than I already have. Just create an OC that YOU like and be done with it. You don't need my approval.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-08-09 08:48:48 +0000 UTC]
Comment I was too lazy to rewrite
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-08-15 03:36:57 +0000 UTC]
Whatever you think is best. Like I said, at this point, I'm getting a bit lost after so many changes and can't get a super clear read on her. I still feel the thin body combined with any clothing or unique traits are too much, but she's your OC so do with her as you will.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-08-08 08:38:28 +0000 UTC]
I'm working on the Flluttershy of the group. Her current name is Angel Heartfire and she is a angel type pony. Her cutie mark is still undecided, but I'm stuck between a red heart and two smaller hearts or a heart shaped flame. She's definitely not as shy as Fluttershy, she's a loving and caring pegasus, can be motherly at times, but her job/talent is still undecided. I'm not sure what to do? Any ideas? She is white, blue eyes, long wavy blonde hair and has a tall and elegant body. Story still being made.
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-08-08 17:04:24 +0000 UTC]
Sounds like pretty much every other generic angel pony I've come across. I have no suggestions other than "don't" because literally everything you just mentioned is extremely overdone. The colors, the name, the hearts, the whole idea.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-08-05 08:28:19 +0000 UTC]
A lots of serious problems, working on a lot of things and a loss in the family are the reasons why I haven't said anything in a long while. My current mlp project is to make my own little group, like my own version of the mane 6 kind of thing. And I'm working on that currently, but I need to bring up Scarlet Beastblood again.
I was in the middle of making her with a normal body, but I decided to make a few changes. As we discussed before, Luna knows that Scarlet is a werepony, that's one. But Zecora also knows as well. Scarlet found out that she's good with potions , spells and all that, so she went to Zecora to see if she has a cure to return her back to normal. But then they had a long discussion, and Zecora told her of how being a werepony could actually help her with beast hunting. Faster, stronger, better senses, those sort of things, plus it would give her a helping hand when hunting/fighting wereponies (being on herself), as long as she learns to control her beast side and keep it a secret excluding Luna who already knows. And Scarlet decided to not cure herself. But Zecora also placed a spell on the bite mark scar on her neck, so that it turns invisible during the day, but visible during the night if the moonlight touches it. So she doesn't stand near windows at night because the moonlight will shine on her neck and give the scar away. Or I could replace Zecora's spell on her neck with a simple accessory like the spa ponies but brown with a green gem. And as I mentioned in her backstory, when she fought the werepony when she was just a filly, she left a scar on its eye. And on the night she fought the werepony, and it bit her and dragged her father away, she got another battle scar, a scar on her left eye. It sent her left eye blind so she can't see out of it anymore, but with her new enhanced senses, they make up for the lost. It basically looks the the blind eye on grampa gruff. Similar with his scar but it's a curved shape scar.
And with the jacket, she only wears it when she's working (used as protection) and maybe sometimes when looking for her father. And since she does her works by herself and nopony really sees her with her jacket on, unless she has to come in contact with other ponies.
Working time: 30% (Wears jacket)
Looking for father time: 30% (Maybe)
Relaxing time: 40% (Doesn't wear jacket)
But I remember the jacket counts as unique item, and for roughly 70% of the time she's not wearing her jacket, people would know her not wearing her jacket. But then I got and idea but I haven't done anything with this idea because I think I know the answer but it's worth a shot. Let's just say: She has her old or Luna's body, she doesn't wear anything for roughly 70% of the time and only wears her jacket roughly 30% of the time. How about that? If that's not ok then I'll just apply that to her with her normal body.
Once she's done, I just have to work on the shop side with Golden Jewels and I have to finish off 2 pretty easy oc's. A laughing, comedic, lol based pegasus called Cheecky Laughter. And a country earth pony who likes to travel around Equestria with her guitar singing anything that comes to mind along the way, she comes from somewhere between Apple Loosa, and she's called Savannah Melody (pronounced Sa-varn-nah).
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-08-05 10:01:34 +0000 UTC]
Don't go with the blind/scarring stuff. That's another unique element on your already too unique pony, and besides that it's really overdone.
But, you know, at this point, it's pretty clear that she's never going to be a canon worthy OC, so you might as well do what you want with her. Go wild with her.
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dankdarkmemes In reply to ??? [2017-06-30 06:33:53 +0000 UTC]
Honestly, this is my favorite guide. It doesn't bash on the common type of species. It also tells people what they can and can't do politely and I really like that!
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equinepalette In reply to dankdarkmemes [2017-06-30 07:01:51 +0000 UTC]
I'm glad you like it! Thank you!
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-06-25 05:42:01 +0000 UTC]
Well I'm just going to make it much simpler and make Golden Jewels my canon oc and Scarlet Beastblood with be my ponysona since they can basically look like anything.
And the pair of them are friends she hash seen single they were young fillies.
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-25 15:56:31 +0000 UTC]
That sounds like a plan.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-26 14:54:14 +0000 UTC]
Just got an idea. Would it be ok if she had a little egyptian themed jewellery and clothes shop? But where? Ponyville maybe? Or Canterlot?
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-26 17:20:29 +0000 UTC]
I don't see why that would be a problem. Just be careful about making her too much like Rarity. Definitely not in ponyville. Canterlot or Manehattan, or any of the other cities like Las Pegasus (I'd recommend that one), Whinnyapolis, etc.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-06-12 08:08:42 +0000 UTC]
Just in case if the other links didn't work. But a few times lately when I comment on your reply I can't see it anywhere and I can't tell if I sent you a comment or not. But I'm sure I sent you the last comment.
And I've also run into a problem. How she got her cutie mark was by fighting the werepony and then it that bit her, and she is older (Age: 21), and she can't be a blank flank for a long time or at all. After she is bitten, and once she manages to stand up and then lada dee lada da, she gets her cutie mark. And right after that, she has her first werepony transformation.
So what age do you suggest she gets bitten and get gets her cutie mark. Cause she can't be too young, you know?
Unfinished Scarlet Beastblood
Base Scarlet Beastblood
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-12 16:57:11 +0000 UTC]
Well, as far as body shape--it has NOTHING to do with age, so you should get that out of your head. Look at Granny Smith--she didn't grow taller and slender and get long lanky legs as she aged, she was always the "standard" pony. Body shape just reflects the character and their general theme. That's why I say lanky tends to reflect elegant, and shouldn't be on your pony because it's too unique with everything with everything else you've got on her.
As far as the colors of the jacket--as I state in the tutorial--black and "x" but ESPECIALLY red is a no-no basically because it adds too much "le edgy" to the design. You need to think more "classic/ancient" beasthunter, not the modern "edgy badass" beasthunter style you see in things like The Witcher. You have to remember your pony can be unique, but it also needs to blend in. If your pony stood in a crowd of other ponies, it shouldn't stick out like a sore thumb. Yours does.
As of right now, the eye color is fine. And if you don't want to change the eye shape, that's okay too, but you need to limit how many unique things you have about this pony. Unique accessories, unique body shape, unique eye shape--it's looking "super special for no reason." Something has to give.
The new tail is looking much better, but it looks very animalistic, not pony like. I'd recommend adding more of an "s-curve" to it and removing some of the spikes on top so you can add some underneath.
Finally, about the cutie mark, she gets it when she's a filly. That's a period dot. It could be her first beasthunt with her father where her cutie mark story goes down or something, but she can't be an adult and get it. Maybe she took a walk in the woods by herself. Maybe she's looking for something. Maybe it's a simple "tutorial" mission her father sent her on. There are lots of options, but she can't be anything older than late fillyhood and get it.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-13 06:53:23 +0000 UTC]
Just to make it easy, could you give me a limit of unique fro her to have (body, eyes, etc). Cause once you give me a limit I can work with that. And if keep her current body I guess that would count as one of the unique things, wouldn't it?
Right now I''m looking at colour schemes from outfits from the witcher and similar things and I'll try and come up with a colour scheme for the jacket (Or whatever it turns out to be). But i did have another design for a jacket that is currently on her father. It's basically what you've seen but it has sleeves and minus the chain (I'll put a link for it so you can see it), but I'm not sure if it's too much. And the tail should be too much of a problem.
And I've edited her story again. She fought a werepony when she was a filly with her father and got her cutie mark from fighting the werepony. And then years later it came back for revenge since it got injured badly and was left with a scar on its right eye, but then Scarlet was much older and stronger. But things went bad, father got knocked down pretty hard, Scarlet got bitten and the werepony dragged her father away. And that when she she properly started her career as a Beast Hunter and when she's not doing that's she's looking for her father.
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-13 15:04:09 +0000 UTC]
That story is spot on. Great job.
And as far as how many unique things you want with a design--one. Eye shape is sometimes dependent on race/body type, so that can go hand and hand if you stick with the unique body, but ONE unique thing is generally all you want on an OC. Any more than that and they start to look like a minor character or an ImportantTM pony which gets into Mary Sue territory, at least as far as canon is concerned.
Are you SURE you want your pony to be canon worthy? It seems you're at a bit of an impass with your design must-haves.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-17 03:14:10 +0000 UTC]
So the story's good? Great! That was just a nutshell of the story, edited right at that very moment as I wrote that reply. Still got to properly write the whole thing but at least I know what to write know.
So those that mean the eye could possibly stay if I stay with her unique unicorn body? So does that count as the 1 unique thing I can have? But what about her apparel? Does that count in the total of unique things? Because they are important for her talent/career. But she doesn't wear the jacket all the time, but she does wear the collar almost all the time. But would they count as 2 seperate items, because they an outfit, she just takes of the jacks when she's not doing work or she doesn't need it, etc. But they would still count wouldn't they?
So the list of unique things:
• Body
• Eyes
• Apparel (If it counts or not)
I've placed a link of the new idea of her jacket with sleeves, but it's just an idea not her official change, but do give me your opinion on it. And the first idea was a darker blue with a light blue lining. And then the same thing again but the jacket looks more like the jacket we wear. Just thought it could go with her eyes. But still nothing official, just a bit of experimentation. Still working on her tail, though getting the right S-shape tail is proving to be a little more difficult than a thought, but I'll get it done.
Well, my goal is to make a oc as canon as possible, cause I know my ponysona will never look like she came from the show, so I decided to make a oc who looks like she could come from the show, so basically have it look canon is I can make it. You know what I'm trying to say right?
Jacket 2.
Jacket 3.
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-17 16:25:24 +0000 UTC]
I think the older style jacket worked better. Even in black and red.
And, yes. The accessories count as a unique feature. So, those being central to her character, I again suggest you change the body shape. It doesn't fit her idea. If you want a canon looking OC, you're going to have to choose, and getting rid of all the accessories JUST to keep the body shape that doesn't even work for her character theme--that seems like a bad decision to me.
Sometimes "unique" things have different "levels". A unique eye shape, for example, especially one with subtle changes can often be "ignored" when counting towards that "unique" item total. On your case, if that eye were to be on a regular bodied pony, it would be very unique and therefore should the only real unique thing. Since it's a default on unicorns like the body style you've chosen, it can be "ignored" much in the same way that a round eye on a regular pony isnt "unique". Accessories are sometimes the same way. If you have something else subtle, like a slightly unique eye shape, a simple accessory could be okay--like a bracelet or a simple necklace (or collar). Jackets, however, are very unique and always count towards that "one only" unique thing. As does a unique body shape like this. And when you have such a unique body shape, it takes precedence over all other things. However, you COULD have a few subtlety unique things together. If you have to have numbers, I'll break it down for you:
Eyeshape: 0 (Due to being default for body shape)
Body Shape: 1
Jacket: 1
Collar: 0.5
If you were to have a regular bodies pony, the collar and jacket COULD work together, but she could have NOTHING else unique about her. (Though even still the collar and jacket make her look like an edgy emo teenager, not a beast hunter.)
I'm only being picky because you REALLY want a canon looking pony. I'm not going out of my way to be mean, I hope you know that.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-19 12:19:26 +0000 UTC]
I thought you didn't like the combo because it was something not to do in the tutorial (Though it was meant to me dark grey), so out of the 3 jacket designs the first was the one you liked most?
I'm still not very keen on changing the body though, I've been trying to convince myself to change her body and experiment on a regular body, but I've just grown too attached use to what she looks like now (excluding the future changes to come). And I couldn't imagine how long it would take me to redesign her on a regular body. But I have been experimenting with colour again on the jackets and her eyes, and this time with green. I'm not official on these one as well but it doesn't hurt to try new things. But if you like the colours, do you think they look good on the old jacket? (Sorry but I had to do it on an old pic of her since I haven't updated her with that jacket yet). And I'm trying to make the collar a bit smaller and the studs smaller so it's not so much out there or in your face. And just asking, what she look better without the underlining of her eye and not so much wolf-like and more normal? But the reason I have the collar it to hide the bite mark scar from the werepony, and without her scar would be exposing her scar. She could go without the collar and have a visible scar, but problems come up there.
1. I'm not sure how she would look because I've haven't tried it yet, and I'm noutbsure if she would look right without it.
2. When she's doing her work, if somepony sees her bite mark scar, they would probably get suspicious about and asume she's a vampony or werepony.
One of the links shows the new tail.
Green old jacket & eyes
Green eyes & jacket 1
And don't worry, I know your not going out of your way to be mean, even though I tend to take things the wrong way (No thanks to my brother 😡). I know you know your stuff and I'm learning.
And I'm in the making of another oc to be a friend for Scarlet so she's not lonely all the time. Just for fun last night I saw some pictures of some Egyptian furries and suddenly I got an idea to experiment with a Egyptian type pony. And what I made was actually quite pretty. She's a unicorn with a sandy colour, light blue eyes, dark grey (blackish) hair (not to dark but bright enough to be alright), I experimented with a necklace and a pair of bracelets each with a few simple jewels (but I'm not sure wether have one or the other, or both), a blue diamond cutie mark and her theme is Egyptian jewellery (or just jewellery), & beauty. And her current name is Golden Jewels.
Unfinished Golden Jewels
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-19 17:43:57 +0000 UTC]
See, Golden Jewels looks flawless. I can't find anything wrong with her. The colors are great, the shape fits with her idea, as well as the necklace, so she's not "too much" at all. She's pretty perfect as far as her design goes. Just give her a non Mary-Sue backstory and she'll be all set.
As far as Scarlet, I like the "style" of the old jacket better, as it's less imposing on her already ExtraTM design, and the green looks fine if you like that better. As far as everything else, I'm kind of at my wits end with her. She still doesn't fit very well with canon (though she has come a long way and is definitely closer to canon than she was), but if you're unwilling to really alter her major problems, there's no real point to me critiquing her further.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-21 07:32:09 +0000 UTC]
Everything that's left to do with her is the final touch ups, it's just her body that's only problem left. So basically, if I don't change her body from what she is now to an average body she won't be canon worthy? Or would she but just by a bit and that would be the only thing wrong with her. I just can't imagine her being small or average sized...
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-21 13:28:06 +0000 UTC]
Right now, no. She would not pass for canon. Her design is still too unique to blend in with the show aesthetics.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-22 11:45:46 +0000 UTC]
So its just her body stopping her from becoming a canon pony? Bugga...
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-22 17:47:48 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much. It works for your other pony since it fits with her design and idea, but not your werepony.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-24 08:05:53 +0000 UTC]
I just got an idea. Since her current body is closer to tall and skinny, what if I made her tall and strong? I've done a rough drawing of her with thicker legs that make her look more stronger and less skinny and you can tell it apart from the tall and skinny bodies like Luna or Cadence, even from a distance I reckon because the legs are more thicker. How about that? Stranded bodied ponies could suit her theme/career, and what about tall and strong? Would that help her get her across the line?
Tall and Strong Body
And that pic, I put a pic of her of what she looks like now so you can compare them. Hope that helps.
And I've also gotten her Werepony form done as well. And if you do like the tall and strong body, all I have to do is edit the legs a little and that's it.
Werepony Form
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-24 21:38:43 +0000 UTC]
Listen. The werepony concept is already the main unique thing you have about your pony. Especially when she's in that form. If you want her to be canon worthy, you cannot have a unique body shape. That's that. No unique body shape at ALL.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-20 06:57:55 +0000 UTC]
So basically the only problem left is her bodyshape. So if I did leave it how it is now, it would be the only problem with her, and she wouldn't be cannon, right?
Look, l'll try and do her on a regular body, minus the unique eyeshape, and see what happens. Alright? I'm willing to try that.
I've updated and fixed the collar, and I've put links and tell me which one you prefer, but I'll probably keep it to cover up her scar. I'll keep her old jacket in green and the green eyes. And I've noticed that with and green & red together, and having a firey temper, she kind of reminds me of a jalapeno pepper. When she happy, your all good. But when you make her angry / eat her, everything is on fire.
Without collar
With updated collar
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-20 11:44:59 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much. You could have the body shape without everything else, but again, that would be a very bad idea to me since the other components are much more integral to her character.
Good luck.
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xMoon-Paintx In reply to ??? [2017-06-08 23:10:50 +0000 UTC]
Is it okay if you tell me what you think of my oc? It would be very helpful ^^
Main OC~
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equinepalette In reply to xMoon-Paintx [2017-06-09 03:13:39 +0000 UTC]
She's really nice! The only real complaint I would list would be the way the highlights are placed on the hair. Usually highlights/stripes originate at the base of the tail and end at the tip, unless its tipped hair. The way these start and stop at odd midpoints in the hair make it seem physically off-Ike it's not something that would occur naturally, or make any real physical sense in 3D hair. Did that make sense?
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xMoon-Paintx In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-09 19:25:16 +0000 UTC]
so i redid the highlights, can you tell me what you think now? (:
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equinepalette In reply to xMoon-Paintx [2017-06-09 21:07:26 +0000 UTC]
Looks pretty great to me! Couldn't really suggest anything more.
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xMoon-Paintx In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-10 00:52:25 +0000 UTC]
thanks, i appreciate you taking the time to help me ^^
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xMoon-Paintx In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-09 18:34:39 +0000 UTC]
Yes, that did! thanks for your feedback ^^ I'll change the highlights when i have the time (:
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-06-06 11:00:04 +0000 UTC]
Unfinished Scarlet Beastblood
Brown Hair Scarlet Beastblood
Blue Hair Scarlet Beastblood
Hope it works.
I've left the parts I'm stuck on blank. And the rest you just tell me what you think. And I might have found a brown that could suit her so I'll put a link of that as well. And I've put a link of the one with the blue which I just can't seem to detach from. Soooo yeah.
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equinepalette In reply to WerewolfQueenSarah69 [2017-06-06 15:55:45 +0000 UTC]
So, your brown hair image has a great color scheme. I think you've gotten that well. But there are two big problems. The absolute most glaring one is that her tail style doesn't match her mane. They have to match. You have a jagged, bushy tail and slick striped mane. Furthermore, that "outline" style for the tail (concentric pattern) isn't natural. Think of something that would actually work in real life as far as a pattern goes--a pattern that starts at the base of the tail and flows towards and ends at the tip. The second lesser problem, though still something to address, is she's still TOO unique. All of her accessories (studded collar, black and red jacket, necklace, heavy eye makeup) combined with her unique body shape make her stick out like a sore thumb. "Too unique" makes her look "super special for no reason." If you want her to fit canon, you'll have to dail it back a bit. I wouldn't recommend that body shape for a beast hunter anyway. Long and lanky doesn't work well with rugged hunting. It tends to imply elegance and elite status. Combined with her accessories, it just makes her look like the rebellious emo teen daughter of a Canterlot elite. Not a badass half-wolf beast hunter.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-12 07:58:07 +0000 UTC]
I have to mention that it's not a necklace but it's thing that connects both side together, otherwise it would just side off. And if that's a problem I can just make it a simple belt/strap or something if that helps.
The collar is there as a accessory that suits her theme and to hide her bite mark scar from the werepony. The jacket it something commonly seen in the monster/beast hunter theme. And if the colours of the jacket are a problem I'll try and fix that if I can.
I've gave her that eye style to be the only girly thing about her, plus I found most of the others didn't suit her. And I gave her the outlining on her eyes so sort of resemble the eyes of the wolf. But I don't really want to change it, or change it much from what it is now. But I'm thinking I should change her eye colour to something else cause it's the only thing blue on her, do you agree?
I gave her that body shape to show her age because she's 21 and not younger like the rest. And the small edits I've made to the body are not visible from what she's wearing and it just looks like she has Luna's body. Her back end being a bit more round, the middle of her being a tad but thicker and her chest being a bit more fuller with a point if you look close enough. And I didn't want to change her the common body shape because it will take a hell of a bloody long time to redesign her, plus it would make her look a lot younger than she is. But I'm not sure if I'll be keen on change her body too much because with her age and all that, I think her body if fine. Plus she's lot stronger that she looks. But that's not always that case. So... a bit of an issue there. But I'm experimenting with her body shape right now. So I'll put a link of what I've got now down there.
The first link I've gave her a new tail so you can tell me what you think about it. And I've gotten rid of that centre piece of her jacket snow now it's just a chain.
Unfinished Scarlet Beastblood
Base Scarlet Beastblood
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ChaosSigma0 In reply to ??? [2017-05-29 07:22:49 +0000 UTC]
(Wow... I haven't logged in here for a LONG time.)
I have to say, this is a very well done tutorial!
I tripped across this while I was looking for design ideas for a draconequus OC I just made. But I had to stop and give this a read.
I've been making ideas for OCs since around 2012, and now I have about 40 good ones (IMO). Although, I'd admit some of them are hit-and-miss.
I would've liked to ask for your opinion on my ponysona, but my method of creation doesn't exactly follow the trends of traditional 'Equestrian' OCs... Long story short. My ponysona is from an alternate universe, where quite a few things work differently.
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equinepalette In reply to ChaosSigma0 [2017-05-29 17:42:10 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, I don't deal with ponysonas usually, but I literally CANT deal with AUs because I use canon to objectively rate OCs. Can't rate objectively if they're by default the opposite of canon!
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ChaosSigma0 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-01 10:10:56 +0000 UTC]
Well, not all my OCs are exactly as 'opposite to canon' as you may think.
For my ponysona, I was going a bit more for a unique backstory.
And I didn't restrict the naming process as per the show's standard. It's more of a derived from family name.
Well, want to take a crack at it anyways? It's not much, as I don't draw. I'm more of a writer.
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equinepalette In reply to ChaosSigma0 [2017-06-01 19:02:02 +0000 UTC]
I mean, I really can't be objective so there's no point. When I judge, I can't really "make exceptions" without getting out of the realm of objectivity. I could tell you what it "should" be as per canon standards, but that's really it.
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ChaosSigma0 In reply to equinepalette [2017-06-02 18:44:42 +0000 UTC]
Oh, I respect that. I'll finish up on their story and get back to you when I'm done, and have the time.
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WerewolfQueenSarah69 In reply to ??? [2017-05-24 09:55:10 +0000 UTC]
I've made some new changes. Her new name is Roxina Firewolf. I've gone back to the previous colours pallet with the red, orange & gold with the King Sombra grey and have that go with her fiery temper which can be uncontrollable at times thanks to her being a werepony. Cutie mark is now red. I've made some little changes to the design of her eyes and her body. Just about done with the story. She's known around Equestrian as a beast hunter as can help with any beast related problems. I've figured out her personality so it suits her colour scheme and being a werepony and all that other stuff. But I've got to ask a question: Roxina prays to Luna to help her find her father. So one night Princess Luna come to her in after Roxina was having a stressful night after thinking about her father, so Luna came to her in a dream to help calm her down and give her some advice, and is the only one who knows she's a werepony but accepts for for what she is. And maybe once in a blue moon helps her. Can I do that?
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