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So I decided to look at some DGM confessions...I knew that about 30%-50% of them would be about Lenalee(...AND I WAS RIGHT), but I still took the shot...And so I saw this confession where it said 'I don't hate Lenalee for reasons people may think.', And those top words where the explanation behind the confession. (Ain't it sweet?:3)
AND THE OTHER STUFF IS AAALL ME.
I tried to be funny(as in, I was half joking about some things, so don't be overly-emotional if you decide to 'disagree' about something here), aand hopefully I was.
Sorry if this is offensive to haters who are different than these kinds and/or are respectable.
Boy, I really need to catch up on that Lena-hate article I'm making...LHS, Y U NO HAVE FEW REASONS TO HATE HER?
And WHY am I wasting my time making these discussions?
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to ??? [2012-12-20 12:41:32 +0000 UTC]
I kind of do as well, haha.
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mistrevar [2012-10-15 16:58:57 +0000 UTC]
She annoys me from time to time, but I don't hate her. I like how strong she is, and while the crying does get a little aggravating, it's also understandable. She feels powerless, even though she isn't; she's constrained by authority (and the baggage they inflicted), she saw a few massive betrayals and lost many of her good friends. I just hope that she comes out of it and reaches her "breaking point" where she can begin to act out soon.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to mistrevar [2012-10-15 20:13:54 +0000 UTC]
I kinda think that's what Hoshino's trying to do right now...She did do that with Lenalee during the Ark arc...
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mistrevar In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-10-16 02:17:46 +0000 UTC]
Oooh, then I am excited. Lenalee is definitely NOT someone to screw around with. She's really, really nice and could be just about anyone's friend, but one does not simply mess with Lenalee Lee, she's DANGEROUS. Go kick some butt Lenalee ~^^
On a side note, awwwwww, Kanda, you're a sweet older brother.
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Arielphf [2012-10-15 10:01:07 +0000 UTC]
Lenalee cries too much? And Krory doesn't? WTF?
If you don't like an ORIGINAL AUTHOR'S character, find another fandom, dude...
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to Arielphf [2012-11-01 17:52:46 +0000 UTC]
Oh gosh, and he isn't even the worst example. XD
Meh, Internetians,
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Arielphf In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-01 18:23:57 +0000 UTC]
I have to agree with you - it never fails to amaze me the people who misinterpret or try and change what an author obviously intends to write. If they've got such a better idea, then let them write their own original stuff and see how many people follow it.
DGM is popular for a reason, and it's not because Lenalee is such a horrible character. 'Meh' indeed!
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Savera-art [2012-10-12 14:10:08 +0000 UTC]
I hate her....... Why she didn't fight, instead of cry?? And sorry, but I hate lot's of woman characters just like that.... for example: Haruno Sakura...... Whine too much....
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to Savera-art [2012-10-12 19:22:00 +0000 UTC]
Where didn't she fight?
Need I remind you that she was the one who beat up:
1. the First Level 3 Akuma.
2. the First Level 4 Akuma.
3. all the Komurins except the first.
4. Others
In the Ark Arc she didn't fight because she could barely move her legs because Innocense was mutating. Allen had an Arc of his own for that himself, but no one complained about that. She even tried fighting that box Road put her in when she knows that she could escape from it even if she DID have her Innocense, I don't see how that's weak.
SH....Well, I haven't caught up with the series, but I DO remember that Sakura seemed to fight enough, not to mention that it's her character that's strong.
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Savera-art In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-10-13 20:41:06 +0000 UTC]
[link] Please read it
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to Savera-art [2012-10-13 21:40:02 +0000 UTC]
*sigh*
Oy, Goddamn, why do people have to go so low?
Not only does this comic show how incapable of understanding good writing the DGM fans are, but the comments show how little of Lenalee's great characteristics showed BEFORE they remember(the respect-o-meter for ol' GazeRei is going further down...).
So, let's get to the point:
1. Lenalee currently isn't given any oppurtunity to fight, or at least in that chapter I don't see somewhere in a fight she could fit in. BUT at the very least, UNLIKE most of the order, she was the ONLY one brave enough to go and see what happened to Allen, despite her knowing that there were two options: one, he would have actually turned evil, and if she went near him, she would surely die, not because she can't fight, but because she loves him too much to want to hurt him, and two, if he was still good there would surely be something wrong with him and/or the Noah would probably protect him or so. She was lucky she was kind of late, I suppose.
2. Fanservice? Really? LHs, again, stood low in my eyes. I'm pretty sure that Hoshino DID partly make her skirt short for fanservice, or to attract males(it IS a shounen manga), just like Arakawa does with Winry(FMA)'s top.
BUT I seriously doubt Lenalee could have such flexability if she wore pants, and judging by how tight the BO's uniform pants seem, I'm pretty sure even Komui thinks that. There also may be other reasons as to why Lenalee wears tha skirt, but I'm just pointing out the main ones.
3. Shrunken boobs? Wut? Even I think she's still irresistable, and I'm a straight female(I wouldn't mind her sucking my guts though, lol.). Breasts don't point out beauty, curves and a gorgeous face does. And before you think I'm flat-chested - I have my breasts are starting to go to the larger category(C), I don't show them much, though, and boys(GUYfriends) like being around me because I don't act like most gals do, and we usually agree and talk about intelligent topics, not because they can stare at something they couldn't live without only when they were babies.
4. Please don't make me read such a pathetic excuse of a humorious piece again. It's completely OOC, badly drawn and written as if the author had nothing else to do with his/her life.
And since we started posting something to clean up our side....HERE is a perfect example of angry psychos, with no life, intelligence or good contribution---> [link] ; you can go check out the club itself too, just in case you want more ridiculious reasons to hate a piece of paper's non-existant guts.
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Savera-art In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-10-14 10:02:47 +0000 UTC]
Sure. XD But I still hate him, and this comic is also very good.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to Savera-art [2012-10-14 11:22:29 +0000 UTC]
Him who?
Well to me it isn't, he/she exaggurated their apperant personalities(I prefer judging fish meals than reading the whole thing with those characters I can't recognise) in a sickening way, not to mention that he/she's an idiot if he/she can't understand that chapter at all.
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AmethystMoon420 [2012-10-08 01:48:46 +0000 UTC]
I LOVE Lenalee~!! Wow... this made my day... So much laughs XP
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to AmethystMoon420 [2012-11-01 17:55:23 +0000 UTC]
I do too.
Haha, thanks.
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nekobaka99 [2012-10-07 22:56:25 +0000 UTC]
I don't get why people hate Lenalee D: She's so strong, she cares for her friends, and when she cries her reasons actually make sense, it's not like she cries over stupid things ;A; She's my favorite girl character... ;-;
And as for yaoi/yuri/pairings and the sort, I don't (or more like can't) ship anything in D Gray Man because it gets in the way of the story Dx (But I do think all of the pairings are cute in their own way~ The only one I could say I slightly 'dislike' is Allen/Road because... Road tried to kill Allen at one point, right? So, er... unless it's some kind of yandere thing, I can't really like that pairing )
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to nekobaka99 [2012-11-01 17:54:56 +0000 UTC]
No kiddin' there, dude, and *female, she's 17.
I see, I respect that.(I don't like Roallen either, it's stupid and most who ship it also are.)
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Argentum-Lupae-Luna [2012-10-07 22:18:16 +0000 UTC]
I loved this, because it summarized many of my own feelings on the subject. I totally agree with Exile Wrath- she's not some weakling Mary-Sue, she's very much a big-sister and friend to her comrades, doing her best to protect her family and prove that she can fight as well, even if she isn't the absolute strongest character in terms of power.
Lena is actually quite a strong character...really, the things she went through as a child have the potential to drive people insane, especially with how young she was, but she bounced back and became stronger as a way of coping. Most people forced into that sort situation would have just given up and died, but after a period of depression, she does her best to keep going, which is more than many can say. She's kind-hearted, determined, and smart...what's not to like about her? Let's see...jealousy, perhaps?
Her crying...Miranda cries more, and Johnny too, and as stated, Allen, Lavi, and even Kanda, the human ice-block, get driven to tears in particular situations. Their tears are for perfectly valid reasons- the death of a friendor loved one they failed to save, being emotionally and/or physically tortured, etc. DGM isn't some happy-go-lucky series, just about every character has cried for various reasons, mostly pertaining to the harsh reality of war and death.
It just proves that they are still human, because humans are flawed, and thus capable of fault and mistakes, and moments of "weakness " where they show their sorrow just makes us empathize with their emotions, or at least they should. Lena in particular becomes upset due to her perception of the world- to her, her friends, family, and comrades make up the puzzle pieces of her world, because without them, her existence is seemingly meaningless, with nothing to strive for and no one to help or be helped.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to Argentum-Lupae-Luna [2012-11-01 17:57:55 +0000 UTC]
I really need to use these for that article I want to write....
About that last paragraph...
Funny, when I read that, I remember how I've seen people claim it's extremely unrealistic and stereotypical...it made me laugh so dang much at humanity. XD
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Argentum-Lupae-Luna In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-01 23:24:16 +0000 UTC]
It's hardly unrealistic-it's human nature to look at the ones around them rather than the big picture, because they're familiar and they are the ones we have experience with.
I laugh at humanity too when they say stupid things like "that's unrealistic", because they're just being hypocritical and provincial in outlook. *rolls eyes* Most of our species are admittedly moronic. I',m just glad to find someone else who agrees with my opinion on the matter besides a few of my friends...
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ExileWrath [2012-10-07 21:40:11 +0000 UTC]
YAY. FINALLY
FINALLY I SEE A COUNTERARGUMENT FOR THOSE USELESS ARGUMENTS OF LENA-HATERS. SQUEE. YES.
I love you now.
Lenalee haters get on my nerves a lot. As a fanfic writer, I actually find her a fun character to write. Also, I have experience with Sues. I don't really see how Lenalee is a Mary-Sue, if just barely. Her actions make sense, she isn't exactly brilliant, she's not all over everyone, just trying to be an old-sister or family figure, because she has been in the Order long enough to know that connections count and Exorcists aren't completely heartless and they all need some sort of humanizing figure in their life. She also is trying her hardest to be a good friend because Exorcists can't really trust someone that isn't an Exorcist. Anyone can be an Akuma or Noah. Furthermore, she cries for reasons. Not just angsting for no reason, but because someone is in danger and she can't do anything or someone has died.
That's not Mary-Sue. That's Hoshino-status OC.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to ExileWrath [2012-10-19 21:59:42 +0000 UTC]
LE GASP! I FINALLY SEE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO DISCUSS HOW STUPID THEIR ARRUMENTS ARE!
I recently saw a hater complain about her being a disapointment after the hair-loss, still can't get what's so wrong with 'the new Lenalee' when I've always found the old one rather boring :/
Hehe.
THANK YOU SO FUCKING MUCH, I've had enough of all that MS nonsense, just because a female has a lot of positive traits doesn't mean she's a Sue. I also hate it when they point out that everyone loves her. UH THE NOAH, duh, JUST CAUSE TYKI GRABBED HER FOR A MOMENT DOESN'T MEAN HE'S HEAD-OVER-HEELS FOR HER. And besides, most of the BO crue are males, having experience with irritating men(lol), I know for a fact that men get angry with a female when she's either clumsy, a waste of time, doesn't do her job correstly or so. Lenalee doesn't do any of that, so there isn't a reason for her to be hated among the protagonists.
Some actually state that she cries for the simplest of reasons....dunno, they didn't seem like they hated Allen, Kanda or Lavi(emphasis on Lavi)....so I doubt even they knew what they were saying by that.
This comment reminded me of when I saw people discussing their hate towards Lenalee:
"I actually read somewhere that when Hoshino told her editor about Komui and Lenalee being based on actual people in her life her editor couldn't stop laughing....I totally don't blame that editor for laughing"
Now THAT is something lol-worthy.
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Mangoswirls [2012-10-07 19:17:00 +0000 UTC]
I personally think Lenalee is a great character. I don't get why so many hate her. >.<
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to Mangoswirls [2012-10-07 19:47:13 +0000 UTC]
It's a puzzle no one can get together...
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0-Lost-Wanderer-0 [2012-10-07 19:12:44 +0000 UTC]
hmmm you did bring light to my eyes writing about this.
I, myself, isnt a lenalee hater, though i have said a few times that i didnt like lenalee, which was only cuz of the noahs ark thingy. but whenever i look back at that thought, i feel like i shouldn't have ever said that. lenalees awesome, even if she wasnt really useful at noah's ark but she wasnt to blame there. she got it back and has formed a new weapon for her now (though sadly i think her life shortened ). she may not have a role for a while since the writer is neglecting her.
i would actually want her to come back in the story, instead of paying so much attention to allen, lavi, kanda.
if i was to hate lenalee, i should hate johnny and lavi too >.> they sorta kinda have the same role as lenalee. i dislike choji though xD
and yes if people hate lenalee cuz she crys so much, i think they should hate miranda more. shes always crying.why do people hate the people who cry alot? lol almost everyone cried, even kanda too...
i hate it when people say that she gets in the way of yaoi, seriously. who cares if she has so many pairings lol we pair our Ocs with so many guys xD
i hope i dont sound toooo personal about it. personally, i think lenalee is the coolest girly character around^^ i used to dislike her a little bit , but i've changed that feeling a long time ago when i rewatched the series with my sister xD
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to 0-Lost-Wanderer-0 [2012-11-01 18:06:33 +0000 UTC]
This made me laugh a tad bit.
I didn't mind her during the Ark, mostly because I tend to never notice about those type o' details. Glad you're one of those who realise how stupid that reason is.
Life shortened? Hmm...it would make sense...but Hoshino has said anything about that.
Me too, I love those three(as characters) but Lenalee is the only main character who Hoshino hasn't worked on a lot, I'm real curious about her entire past and emotions, not to mention that she's always given the most badass fight scenes....
REMEMBER. IF IT'S A FEMALE IT MUST ALWAYS BE JUDGED!
XD OH LOL, dat last part made me day.
Well if you're gonna put 'personally' at the start, of course you're gonna 'sound' personal!
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0-Lost-Wanderer-0 In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-02 21:57:21 +0000 UTC]
its okay to laugh at it^^ i wasnt trying to be too personal about it xD (okay maybe a little bit)
i never did either, but i dunno why i did when watching noahs ark thingy. maybe it was the "damzel in distress thingy" (i dunno how to spell that..)it is also one of the reasons why people hate lenalee though, which is very lame -____- i need to slap myself for that xD
true that, but since the innocence is inside her, in the form of her blood (i think) they sorta discussed it when komui took lenalee to hebra.
when the 4 of them are together, they are even more awesome omg indeed! especially her fight with level 3
(shes better than allen sometimes! XD)
bleeeh i hate hate hate hate hate it when people judge em cuz they are female
lol but its true though. everyone has their own OTPs for lenalee with kanda, or allen etc. and then people complain how shes got every guy's attention and blah blah. then some DO say it comes in the way of the yaoi xD
havent they realized that they do the same thing with their ocs? (not saying everyone does though) it gets annoying when that happens and then rage at lenalee...
oh no, not again... sounding personal again XDD
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mercurialfox [2012-10-07 19:06:26 +0000 UTC]
Huh, how weird, Ive never got into one of these discussions, I dont know how people can get so uptight about a character really... to go to the length of arguing why they hate a character? And for such poor reasons..lol
Sure she cries, Allen cries, Krory cries, Miranda cries, johnny cries (tonnes) and im pretty sure Lavi cried that one time...lol? So how can you hate her for that and not the others? Atleast Kanda is sensible and 'dislikes' everyone equally for for crying or being an idiot in general and doesnt discriminate anyone in particular, everyone should be like that
But I pretty much like all the characters in DGM, even the Earl, they all have something interesting and quirky about them. I agree you can dislike a character but arguing and hating is a bit overboard. Haters will remain ignored...
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to mercurialfox [2012-11-01 18:10:56 +0000 UTC]
I know, it's pretty stupid....considering how it is to understand her character....Though I'll admit I'm equally stupid for wasting my time like that XD
HAHAHA! THAT LAST SENTENCE!
I only hate Lou Fa because she's a useless twat. I even prefer 'that Hitler guy' over her, at least his cold heart makes him useful and interesting...
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mercurialfox In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-05 16:47:53 +0000 UTC]
haha Yeh we're all pretty stupid for getting so involved in fictional characters But I guess thats the point of it in a way! Oh yeh, I kind of forgot about Lou fa, yeh she is pretty useless isnt she.....? I dont hate her I just forget she exsisted LOL
Yeh Levierre( oh hell, Ill just say Hitler guy too I cant spell) has an interesting character, he is either just evil or extremely dedicated to the cause and will do anything to complete said mission... not enough is known about him to know whether he is really a baddie or not. Still kind of a jerk though.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to mercurialfox [2012-11-05 17:48:44 +0000 UTC]
YEP!
I wish I could too, but she and Loulen are fucking EVERYONE now.
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO THINKS LIKE ME!
Yeah, kind of a jerk...to say the least, but he's worth it, for the most part.
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mercurialfox In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-08 16:30:09 +0000 UTC]
haha true, yep its good to find people who think alike!
Shame theres another wait for the next chapter, I take it she is ill again, though not heard why.
I hope Lenalee gets back into action again soon.
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AwkwardApartment [2012-10-07 17:46:59 +0000 UTC]
Yeah I really don't understand why so many people hate her v-v
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to AwkwardApartment [2012-10-07 17:57:28 +0000 UTC]
Eh, psychos(MOTm, at least).
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TheOrangeSpork [2012-10-07 16:44:21 +0000 UTC]
i personally like lenalee. She's strong and cares about others.
She may have lost her innocence but so did allen and no one hates him
Then she gets crystal innocence first and owns a level 4 that beat up everyone else.
Yes she cries; she was basically kidnapped and tortured to become an accommodator. She has been at the order for a long time and many of her friends have since died (remember how Tyki killed a bunch of exorcists? lenalee knew them, they were her friends) She wants to help allen beat the noah inside himself but can't,what can she do? Then after the fight with Alma she's told that Kanda is gone, Kanda is her oldest friend so forgive her for crying i'm sure you would too.
She's not my favourite character but thats personal preference. But she's not weak and defiantly doesn't deserve all the hate directed towards her
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to TheOrangeSpork [2012-10-07 17:51:54 +0000 UTC]
I agree full-heartedly!
All that hatred gets on my nerves, A LOT.
Sometimes I feel like LHs just take her too seriously, she's one of those characters that you just, see her, like her/dislike her if she ain't your type/, and move on, and if you find her interesting because of some personality details, then you like the story enough to go a bit deep into it, like the AllenXLena(which haters also take too seriously) pairing.
No one has to go so deep into her, find something they dislike in her, exaggurate their hatred, and then give shitty reasons as to why they hate her.
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sugarylime [2012-10-07 16:41:38 +0000 UTC]
Its very interesting too read something like this i must say xD, if i think about it the most shounen girls are hated because of the same reasons which the comment writer does have. I personly donΒ΄t think lenalee is bland, i think she is one of the most uhm interesting characters in d gray man. One point in annoying i donΒ΄t get (its cause i have a bad english, so correct me if im wrong ok) Its only a few shonen-ai fans who just donΒ΄t like lenalee because...well...she is exists? haha...well lenalee crys...i would cry too if the same things would happend too me (and i think the most would do that xd)
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to sugarylime [2012-10-07 17:42:19 +0000 UTC]
Lol, thanks.
I don't really think she is either, I mean, she's a very romantic/poetic person for her have such visions of the world, which is quite rare to see in shounen OR any other manga. I understand if it was the oneshot zone Lenalee(Rinali), but, I feel like this Lenalee is looked at WITHOUT noticing the details in her personality(cute, sweet, stereotypical 'angel').
LOL hate her because she exists? LENA-HATERS ARE ALL KANDA'S CHICKENS!
I know what you mean, I'm the same.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to replicator13 [2012-10-07 17:35:40 +0000 UTC]
...You're new to the Internet, aren't you?
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replicator13 In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-10-07 17:40:52 +0000 UTC]
no im not, but im really not into fan-bases or internet communities.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to replicator13 [2012-10-07 17:55:36 +0000 UTC]
That was just a joke-question.
You're lucky, I regretfully am into fandom, DEEP into them, sadly.
And you have no idea how much I would exagurate 'regretfully' here because of a .....certain....club I saw DEDICATED to Lena-hate, I think it came from the devil's nest....or created by him.....
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replicator13 In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-10-07 18:03:59 +0000 UTC]
yeah im lucky i guess XD
Thats awful! Why would anyone hate cute girl like Lenalee, who cares deeply about the people and is powerful exorcist :3
I dont get people
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to replicator13 [2012-10-07 18:05:12 +0000 UTC]
Pretty much the response every TLH hates getting the most. xD
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replicator13 In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-10-07 18:29:50 +0000 UTC]
I see XD
that means they are heartless
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to replicator13 [2012-10-07 18:34:10 +0000 UTC]
She said it not me. I would though
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tzedra [2012-10-07 16:39:56 +0000 UTC]
Hahhaha! I found it funny how people judge Lenalee because she cries. I'm not a huge fan of her, but I find that reason ridiculous. I think she's a strong character, and I like her most of the time, specially in the begging. It kinda got different at the Ark Ark, because she "lost" her innocence and had to be saved, but hey! That wasn't her fault -at least not completely- so there's no point whining about that. The only moments I find her, really irritating is when she hurries from Allen to Lavi, then to Kanda, and back to Allen, it gets on my nerves. But that doesn't make her a hate-able character, just a good friend, I suppose. Lenalee is actually one of the few female characters I like (not only from DGM, of course), and it's kinda annoying to hear things like "she's a crybaby and a whore" all the time.
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ErikaDaniel98 In reply to tzedra [2012-11-01 18:15:28 +0000 UTC]
No kiddin'. I started laughing at that reason looooong ago.
I honestly found her boring at the begging, she was too...emotionless.
LOL. I don't really think she does XD, at least not to Lavi, haha.
No kiddin'.
And same, although most females I view I like...UNLESS they in one way or another mess with my favourites, THEN I start getting critical.
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tzedra In reply to ErikaDaniel98 [2012-11-01 20:00:05 +0000 UTC]
And there's the point. People use to hate on characters who "messes" with their bias. That was more or less what I thought about Lenalee when she was "too much" with Lavi XD But I got over it fast enough (I hope...) Anyway, the other point is that people should really consider Lenalee was one of the original characters Hoshino-sensei created, she really has a reason to exist in the stories. If people dislike her, well, their problem, she's already an important part of D.Gray-Man and I doubt stupid remarks as those will change that.
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