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Description Got tired to trying to get pg.2 layout right last night so.... I stabbed someone. XD

I actually really like this apart from I cant draw Sportsmasters right hand. This puts a literal meaning to back stabber.
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oODark-DawnOo In reply to ??? [2015-12-31 21:07:56 +0000 UTC]

Let me educate you on Red Skull. He was Hitler's pupil... and Hitler got scared of him. He left the Nazis because he thought they were "too morally restricted".

He took a baby hostage... Which he killed by blowing its brains out... AFTER his demands were met.

He became a drug lord selling things even KINGPIN didn't want to touch. He killed Cap in Civil War and took over his body to further tarnish his reputation.

He had a girlfriend which he abused constantly in horrific ways. She eventually tried to kill herself out of loyalty because she thought she did something to deserve his hate. He stopped her and said "You'd like that, wouldn't you?"

He eventually had a kid. A daughter in fact. His first reaction was to drown it in a well because it was a girl.

He killed his accountant in a casual conversation because "she was a bad accountant".

And in a crossover, Joker tried to kill him as soon as he found out he was a Nazi. Yes, even JOKER doesn't want to work with him.

Pretty fucking evil.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-02 04:24:19 +0000 UTC]

THAT POISONOUS BUNCH-BACKED TOAD!! THOU ART A FROWARD DREAD-BOLTED FLIRT-GILL!! (All this is aimed at Red Skull, not you.) THAT LEATHER-JERKIN CRYSTAL-BUTTON KNOT-PATED AGATERING PUKE-STOCKING CADDIS-GARTER SMOOTH-TOUNGUED LITTLE BALL OF SLIME! THAT WARPED UNCHIN-SNOUTED LOUT! THAT FOUL AND PESTILENT CONGREGATION OF VAPOURS! THAT INFECTIOUS RAMPALLIAN JOITHEAD! THAT ODIFEROUS WEATHER-BITTEN MEASLE! THAT LOGGERHEADED TOAD-SPOTTED WEASLE! THAT WARPED TICKLE-BRAINED HEDGE-PIG!! THAT LUMPISH SPUR-GALLED MALT-WORM!!THAT FOBBING DOG-HEARTED WAGTAIL!! ( I think that might be my favorite!) THAT IDOL OF IDIOT WORSHIPPERS! THAT CURRISH BRAZEN-FACED HUGGER- MUGGER!!! THAT SPLEENY POX-MARKED PUMPION! THAT FULL-GORGED HORN-BEAST CLOTPOLE!! TAHT PAUNCHY BEETLE-HEADED APPLE-JOHN!! (Whoooooooooooo!! That was fun for me!! You probably didn't read all this but it was found on a Shakespearean Insult site!! Seriously like the best thing ever!!

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-02 10:01:27 +0000 UTC]

Reminds me of an insult I remember from Monty Python. "Tour mother was a hamster and father smelt of elderberries!"

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-02 21:51:10 +0000 UTC]

That's AWESOME!! OMIFISH, I love old swears!

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-02 21:53:41 +0000 UTC]

You know what it means? Hamsters are rodents, which have a very high reproductive cycle. And elderberries are used for making cheap wine.

Which means "your mother was a whore and father was a drunk".

ZING!

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-03 00:25:27 +0000 UTC]

 BUWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAH!!!! But who else knows that?! Ah, the mindless masses.......But probably more then I think.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-02 03:58:05 +0000 UTC]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I must say, when the Joker doesn't want to work with him, GET OUT OF HIS WAY!! (then try to find a way to quietly take him out!)  Dang, even HITLER was scared of the guy!! And Hitler was crazy.......So this guy must be full on Whoziwhatsits! He also seems to know to the worst thing to you can do to a decent person. Let them live. I heard rumors about the whole Cap/Red Skull thing and didn't know how it was possible! How do you return to what you've been when you have this invisible sign hanging over your head saying,"I did horrible things but it wasn't me!" 'Nazis being to moral' That's a new one! With the whole baby thing though........I watch for characters like those. They TOUCH that kid and I will make a way for them to pay! (That whole thing.) Did he actually get rid of his own kid, though?! BECAUSE IT WAS A GIRL?!?! WHY THAT BIASED MORALLY TWISTED FROTHY FLAP-MOUTHED LAZY CUR OF A FOOTLICKER OTTA TO BE PUNISHED!!!

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-02 10:32:33 +0000 UTC]

Maybe I shouldn't mention the fact that he dresses up people as Captain America and Bucky (adult and child) and kills them because he can't kill the real ones. Or the fact that he hires several people to spar with him in order to keep himself in combat shape and he always wins those spars. And he kills the people that sparred with him.

Yes, he did try to kill his daughter for being a girl. Here's one other thing that makes him so evil: He's a racist and a sexist and all the other "-ist" you can think of. But he disagreed with the Aryan race idea, because he thought it was blind supersition and that the perfect human being, the Ubermesnch, could only be acheived through science.

Red Skull is a monster even by Nazi standards.He was responsible for trapping Hitler, his mentor, in an inescapable, formless, empty void.

Remember Carnage? The psychopath that killed as many people as possible by choosing his targets from the freaking phonebook, because he thinks he's an "agent of chaos"? He thought letting Nazis on the loose would be fun... but he thought that letting Red Skull run rampant was bad. Yes, the psychotic serial killer symbiote didn't like the idea of Red Skull free.

Speaking of Joker, there's a very good reason why he refuses to work with Red Skull. First, Joker is all about making humor and art (in his own twisted way). Nazis kill quickly and methodically, as if this was just another day in the office. No sense of humor with a bureucratic killing aprroach. And that kind of emotionless uncreativity is ugly to the Joker. Second, Joker sometimes does things at random, be it horrible murders or just humilliating (but harmless) pranks. Red Skull does EVERYTHING for a reason. Red Skull is a monster, but he's a PRAGMATIC monster. He'dx never waste his time on things like Joker did, That kind of order is kind of insulting to someone as chaotic as the Joker. Third, Nazis used to kill anyone with the slightest mental illness back in the day. And Joker has about every single mental illness you can think of.

Joker did try to work with Red Skull in a crossover. At first he thought Red Skull was just dressing up like a Nazi just to troll people, so he aprooved. But then he finds out he's the real deal and he gets pissed. Red Skull simply wonders why he is so surprised when he thinks that the Joker would make a great Nazi. The Joker is not too happy at this, proclaiming "I may be a criminal lunatic, but I'm an American criminal lunatic!" Yes, folks, even an equal-opportunity murderer like the Joker despises the Nazis! s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/7…

In short, you could argue that Joker is too crazy to control his actions or that he makes you laugh or that he has tragic history that made him a bit empathetic... but not with Red Skull. He's pure evil, plain and simple.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-02 21:57:02 +0000 UTC]

And little fact, the Joker is actually perfectly sane! His greatest action in pulling the wool over everybody's eyes is to convince them he has NO control over what he's doing and so cannot be held accountable for his actions!

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-02 23:20:53 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I am aware of that. So was Punisher. And he was having none of it. static.comicvine.com/uploads/o… 1.media.dorkly.cvcdn.com/52/37…

You act so high and mighty when pansies that never kill out of stupidity take you down, Joker. But when the f***ing PUNISHER comes along, you're scared shitless. Not so tough now, are we you hypocritical psycho coward?

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-03 00:31:05 +0000 UTC]

One other thing, you said Red Skull "tried" to kill his daughter? So he didn't? What happened to her?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-03 01:32:40 +0000 UTC]

One of his followers convinced him not to (the mother couldn't, because she died at childbirth) and raised her with complete indoctrination to Red Skull's views as she grew up. Then Skull took her in and put her into an age increasing machine. She was the first out of an entire team of superpowered and rapidly aged child soldiers that went up against Cap. She was brought back to normal and taken to a reeducation facility by SHIELD in order to give her a shot at a normal life. At some point, Red Skull was seemingly killed by Winter Soldier. Then a villain named Crossbones (he was in the recent Winter Soldier movie) broke inside the facility, kidnapped her and tortured her in order to break the SHIELD programming and turn her evil again. He succeeded. She took the name Sin, assumed a relationship with Crossbones and helped her father kill Captain America in Civil War.

That makes Tim Drake's fate in Batman Beyond look like peanuts, don't it?

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-03 07:55:18 +0000 UTC]

I have to admit it does......OUCH! For a second I thought you meant a character in DC because they had the same name. Except hers was a nickname. Black Canary swore to protect her. Who is this Crossbones guy? And I have read a Civil War comic. The last one, they reached the end and Cap didn't die. You're talking about a different one, right? Did Sam/Falcon take the shield?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-03 10:30:59 +0000 UTC]

No. At the end of the Civil War, the next Captain America was Bucky. Then Steve was brought back to life. Falcon became Captain America only recently. As for Crossbones, here's a complete profiule on him. marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Brock_Ru… He was also in the Winter Soldier movie. Remember the guy that kept tasing Cap in the elevator? The gyu that tried to launch the helicarriers? The guy that fought Falcon? That's the guy.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-03 00:21:24 +0000 UTC]

When did the Joker ever go up against Punisher? And to be fair, I would be scared $#!+less too. I now that DC/Marvel did a  crossover, but when did that happen? I know that they combine Wolverine and Batman, that was just weird.

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-03 01:18:52 +0000 UTC]

It was a crossover in the 90's, not releated to the Amalgam Universe that you're thinking about. Just like with Joker and Red Skull. About every scene with the Punisher is pure badassery mixed with man-sauce and awesomeness! Like the time all the criminals went inside a bar and awaited the end of the world being merry and enjoying the failure of the heroes' efforts to save it... and Punisher barges in with THIS epic one-liner: "They say that you can't take it with you when you die. So... what am I going to do with all these bullets?" 1.bp.blogspot.com/-RyYtZOvgUII… That was from the recent "Secret Wars" event.

Or the time they created a Punisher possesed by the powers of Doctor Strange (REPEAT. PUNISHER WITH THE COSMIC POWERS OF DOCTOR STRANGE!), creating the Sorcerer Extreme and had him kill an alternate universe GHOST RIDER by freezing him and blowing him up with a MAGIC BAZOOKA! After killing HULK by turning him into dust. i2.wp.com/www.comicbookrevolut… Also in "Secret Wars".

I grew chest hair...

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-03 08:08:29 +0000 UTC]

I just finished watching The Dark Knight Rises. OHMIFISH!! Why did they change Dick Grayson's name?! Have you seen it? Probably the best of the three! And they killed Talia! I mean, what the heck! If you haven't seen it I apologize. 

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-03 10:45:43 +0000 UTC]

I've seen it. I think it's the weakest of the three, actually. I couldn't understand half of what Bane said and his death was completely underwhelming. Like he just "poofed" away from the fim, no body shown. Talia was a stupid character there and she gets worse everytime I see that film. Bale's voice is cancer to his throat and to my ears. Batman whining about the pointless character of Rachel Dawes was just idiotic. The whole thing felt extremely preachy and made too much of an effort to make the audience take it seriously, truning it pretentious and dull. Still no sunlighht in Gotham for some reason. And the fights look SOOOOOO abominable. I have never seen such poorly excecuted fights in a long time. Bane kicks with his right leg, then we cut to Batman and we see that Bane kicked him with his left leg? THAT'S AN AMATEUR'S MISTAKE!

In short, the Magnum Opus of Nolan's Batman wasn't the movie I excpected. It felt bigger, with higher stakes, but it didn't deliver completely. It was a good film... but Winter Soldier, The Dark Knight and The Avengers were better. I guess this film did't really feel... natural. It felt a bit out of place. I mean, I think the ending for The Dark Knight was better.

But hey, that's just my opinion, not a fact. Don't let me ruin the movie for you.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-04 03:50:31 +0000 UTC]

Those other movies definitely had better CGI. (Except maybe the Dark Knight, but that is just me.) But about the actor, that Christian Bale guy? Did you notice he had his mouth open most of the time? Like ALL of the time? Caught this AWESOME Screen Shot of when Bane is kicking Batman's tush! C:\Users\leojuan1234\Pictures\HAWHAWHAWHAW!\You Vapid Mouth Breather..JPG (Check it out!)

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-04 09:52:17 +0000 UTC]

I did notice. And the link doesn't work for some reason.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-05 04:28:12 +0000 UTC]

I can try again if you want me to! I guess I could just put it up on Deviantart if it doesn't work.....I'll see what I can do.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-04 03:37:16 +0000 UTC]

I think I understand a bit more about Punisher know, thank you! There are some points FOR the movie, though. I actually really like the twisted rendition of Bane and Talia backstory. And the little surprise twist that Bane was not Ra's Al Ghul's kid, even though anybody who knows about Ra's kids would see it couldn't be true in heartbeat. Another point in favor of the movie is Catwoman. She was....unexpected. (is the best way to describe her, I think.) But there is one point when she kisses Batman and there is an INDENT IN HER FACE where the masks nose poked her! Funniest thing ever!! We rewound like five times!! And is Blake the new Batman? What's up with that? And, uh, by mistake I removed your last comment before I got to read it. So I have no idea what it was, though it had a link in it.
   

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-04 09:51:13 +0000 UTC]

Oh, don't mention it! Again, the movie was good, just not great. I think it was overhyped and it lacked the narrative of TDK and traded it for scale. I didn't like that. Even The Avengers had a coherent story (Yes, it was simple, but coherent.).

You don't HAVE to like The Punisher, I'm just helping you form a more educated opinion. Blind hate and blind love do more harm than good. At least Punisher ain't Konraad Curze...

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-05 06:25:54 +0000 UTC]

Oh yeah! I was just flipping randomly through your previous comments and remembered a question I wanted to ask you! In one of said earlier comments, you mentioned a death battle between Spider-Man and Batman. Which Batman lost, I might add. So please indulge me in my ignorance, and enlighten me, I beg of thee!

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-05 05:46:32 +0000 UTC]

I managed to put it up! Not sure I'm gonna KEEP it up there though. Don't want to seem like I'm insulting him.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-05 04:34:36 +0000 UTC]

My sister is reading over my shoulder, (you have grown to be something of a legend as a kindred soul.....) and nudged me in the shoulder saying, (she did not nudge gently!) 'they want you to ask who that guy is, don't they?' So I'm just gonna ask. Who is that guy? DO explain, I'm all ears! Also, who is TDK? Is he a directer or someone like that?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-05 10:56:12 +0000 UTC]

TDK is short for "The Dark Knight'. I see that your sister is a very smart person, though a bit indiscreet. Stop looking into other people's coversations, lady! Is she younger than you or older? Oh, and I enjoy conversations with fellow comicbook geeks. Especially intelligent conversations. After seeing too much stupidity and hatred in the YouTube comments, I needed a someone smart to talk to.

BEHOLD! The Primarch of the Night Lords! Konrad Curze, the Night Haunter! www.deviantart.com/art/The-VII…

Konrad is essentially a demi-god, a son of the Emperor of Mankind of Warhammer 40k. A genetically engineneered creation from the Emperor's own DNA, since the Emperor could not conceive. The ladies would die before that happened. Overqualified... AHEM! Back to Konrad. As his capsule was lost, like the rest of the other Primarchs' were. He eventually reached the eternally dark planet known as Nostramo. Unlike most Primarchs, no one took Curze in, and he had to raise himself. It should also be noted that while the other Primarchs landed in style with awesome stasis pods like God descending from Heaven, Curze ended up punching through the Adamantium crust of Nostramo and embedded himself into the core WITHOUT sain stasis pod. As an INFANT. And he survived and dug himself out. And the very moment we was concious, he would be plagued by nightmares of a horrible future and visions of his own death, which would haunt his every living moment. Nostramo was a lawless hell-hole, where crime was rampant and usually went unpunished, the rich openly exploited the poor, depression and the inability to escape one's social standing was rampant, and the population was largely kept down not through any fancy measures, but suicide. Curze was enraged by how this panned out and as he grew he decided to take matters into his own hands. Imagine if Gotham was an entire planet and was 50 times worse, on steroids and cocaine.

Stalking the eternally-dark streets, Curze began hunting down heretics and those who had been responsible for turning Nostramo into the cesspit it had become. Leaders of the corrupt administration disappeared, only to be found later hung from Imperial administration buildings and beaten into unrecognizable messes that couldn't be identified without DNA testing, though their faces were often untouched so people would instantly recognize the victim. Notorious criminals were found out in the streets, eviscerated or impaled and left to die on the spires of manufactorum rooftops. The blood of those who had committed crimes flowed in the streets, with body parts stopping up storm drains.

The really scary part? It worked. Within a year, Curze had killed so fucking many dicks that the crime-rate of Nostramo reached damned-near zero. Society went through a massive upheaval and curfews were imposed to minimize the casualties from the Night Haunter Mothers began to threaten their kids that if they continued to misbehave, the Night Haunter would come for them - a story that came into common use on Nostramo, describing Curze, who stalked through the city, ready to disembowel any heretic or criminal foolish or bold enough to cross his path with anything on hand. His favored weapons of 'Lightning Claws' weren't used until he was found by the Emperor and united with his legion, which also made armor and weapons available to him.

Curze became convinced of his choices being the right and just ones when he saw that the people of this world started to have hope again - he had become the only thing on the entire planet that people truly feared (and hated). Seizing the moment, Curze appeared before the few remaining nobles that had survived his vigilantist purges - the only ones who basically weren't complete assholes, and gave them a choice: Obey his rule, or die. One or two protested that he had not imposed an order based on fear, but it made no difference. Curze, the Night Haunter, was made the ruler of Nostramo.

To the surprise of most, Curze proved to be a fairly capable ruler; surprisingly just and temperate. He made strong attempts to educate himself on absolutely everything he could learn, and was noted for his skills as an adjudicator. This was, of course, until word of an injustice reached Curze's ears - at which point he would hunt down the transgressor himself, wearing them down, and killing them horribly. His unpredictable pattern of benevolence and wisdom contrasted by jaw-dropping levels of violence ushered in a new era of efficiency and honesty across Nostramo on a planetary scale, mainly as an act of capitulation in order to keep the Night Haunter from their doors.

Complete with personality disorder (There's Konrad, the son of the Emperor and the Night Haunter, the murdeous vigilante), he's essentially a psychic-powered, power-armored, insane demigod version of Batman and Punisher... IN SPACE!

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-06 06:17:20 +0000 UTC]

Do you know a lot about Video games? My best friend LOVES them! She plays all sorts of them, from Mass Effect to Batman Arkham City, the one with Red Hood.

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-06 08:30:53 +0000 UTC]

I'm a BIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIG fan of videogames! And uh, Arkham Knight was the one with Red Hood. Arkham City was with Joker being sick. The fact that you confused the two speaks a lot about how good Arkham Knight really was.

My favourite action game so far is the hack-and-slash Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance! Have you played it yet?

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-06 20:02:47 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for setting me straight! And as I said before, I have, lamentably, not played a single video game since I was six! My family does not have a TV, so yeah. No video games. My friend is a huge fan of how Red Hood was in that one.

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-06 20:38:32 +0000 UTC]

Well, Jason was handled respectfully in that game... but it had so many problems. First, Scarecrow is an absoloutely boring pushover compared to Asylum. Always monologuing and doing nothing but rambling on. Plus, the Bat-Mobile took over too much of the action. And the ending was too disappointing, too short and way too difficult to unlock. Not to mention the fact that EVERYONE gets kidnapped just so Batman can look good: Oracle, Commissioner Gordon, Tim Drake, Catwoman, NIGHTWING. Who got beat by HARLEY. In a 20 minute long DLC. Like all the other chapters. And no freeroaming as other characters. And they reduced Deathstroke to a TANK BOSS BATTLE. After you destroy the tank, he jumps out, Batman one-shots him with a single punch and takes him to jail. And, the worst offense, a deplorable PC port.

Arkham Knight, while great, was a major disappointment.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-07 06:11:37 +0000 UTC]

Wow. All my friend told me about was Jason Todd's run as the Red Hood in that game, she even sent me all the cutscenes! And there is NO way that Nightwing would be beaten by Harley! (Unless he was on something.) 'Just so Batman can look good.' Why don't they have Batman be kidnapped and have all his veritable and helpful allies come and help him?! Geez, they gotta remember what Catwoman said when facing Hugo Strange! When Bruce basically hypnotized himself to erase the Batman and Hugo tried to take over, also trying to take out Batman's Robins. She basically tol him that they were not insects leeching on Batman's glory, but a tight little circle of people he trusted above everyone else, and if he tries to kill Batman, he'd have to fight through all of them to it! (If that's not what she said, have pity on me, I haven't read it in a while.) and Deathstroke deserved so much more than that! And so did Scarecrow! Despite being a physically weak enemy, he is incredibly dangerous because of his fear gas! (I hate auto correct!)

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-06 06:13:10 +0000 UTC]

OH! TDK! I actually like the story, but I think I like the movie better. Thank you for clearing that up! And I am indeed older than she is. She was also the one who told me to get account on here! That's her. She only came to see what had captured my attention so completely, she doesn't normally read over my shoulder. I find that kind of creepy.  And I have to say, when I saw that link, it was just the same reaction as seeing Azreal's new rendition of the Batsuit. Y'know, all spiky and the like, so DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDEE!!! Nice claws!! Those can inflict some damage!! And that's frankly disgusting! (About the fact that guts and other anatomy stuff that shouldn't ever see daylight clogging drains.....Ew.) And you're right, that is scary, seeing as violence seems to be the only thing that anybody really understands....Except the smart ones. Or the stubborn ones. So, what happened next? 'Cause, having a planet ruled by someone not mentally fit seems a little, er, dunno. Not safe? Or is that all, and he's still ruling? He seems pretty safe from uprisings. But a rule like that, that CAN'T end well.....

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-06 09:08:46 +0000 UTC]

Well, the Emeperor found Curze and he joined the Great Crusade, the march to reclaim all human colonies in the galaxy and ensure humanity's dominance over it. Curze used very lethal intimidation tactics to beat the enemies of man, making him unlikable with the rest of the Primarchs. I would be a bit miffed too iof my brother used an army of super-soldier murderers that kill people in many horrific ways, recorded the deeds and broadcasted them to enemy planets before attacking, so that 1/3 of them planet would die out of fear. Seriously, that happens. Eventually, mankind was struck by the civil war known as the Horus Heresy, where half of the Primarchs were corrupted by the Chaos Gods and betrayed the Emperor with Horus Luprecal, the Emperor's most favored son leading the traitors. The Emperor killed Horus, but was forever crippled and bound to the Golden Throne, his life support system and do nothning but rot and die as he watches everything he strived for chrash and burn around him for 10.000 years.

As for Curze, he was a Traitor Primarch, but he and the Night Lords never sided with any of the Chaos Gods and just considered them tools to use for their terror campaigns. He eventually captured the Primarch of the Salamanders, Vulkan. www.deviantart.com/art/IGNEUS-… (Vulkan is a very cool dude, always focusing of saving civilians than killing the enemy. He's a pyromaniac, very inclined towards friendship, is immortal and is the SCARIEST big black man EVER.) He killed him, but Vulkan, being immortal, just shrugged it off. Then Konrad tortured him with many atrocious ways, including making kill his own Salamanders, force him into watching prisoners starve to death and gutting masses of children in front of him. Vulkan ended up in a maze that had his hammer in. Vulkan took back his hammer and gave Konrad a most righteous asskicking, but didn't kill him, for that would be stooping into his level, thus pissing off Konrad even more. Vulkan escaped and Konrad went to the planet Baal and sneaked his way into the throne room of Sanguinius, Primarch of the Blood Angels. www.deviantart.com/art/Sanguin… (Sanguinius is a powerful psychic user and has huge wings. Very nice guy, like Vulkan.) Both had visions of their own deaths, Sanguinius would die protecting the Emperor against Horus and Konrad would die to a sniper rifle from an assassin. Beacuse of their precognition, they came to a draw. Nostramo became a lawless backwater once more in the absence of Konrad, forcing him to perform Exterminatus. elydis.files.wordpress.com/201…

The Night Lords got there late to the party but still got shit done, inflicting considerable morale damage on the loyalists. The Emperor however, wishing to stop the Night Lords forevermore, dispatched an assassin operative from the Callidu Temple to kill him.

Curze had foreseen this, however - and he allowed it. He allowed her into his palace and the Callidus encountered no guards between herself and his throne room. Confronted with the Callidus Assassin M'Shen, he explained why it was so easy for her to get here:

"Your presence does not surprise me, Assassin. I have known of you ever since your craft entered the Eastern Fringes. Why did I not have you killed? Because your mission and the act you are about to commit proves the truth of all I have ever said or done. I merely punished those who had wronged, just as your false Emperor now seeks to punish me. Death is nothing compared to vindication."

Whilst it's never been confirmed if the assassin actually beat him in a fight, it is believed by many that Curze allowed himself to be killed, having given explicit orders to the Night Lords to allow M'Shen to escape. Only one Night Lord, Apothecary Talos Valcoran of the 10th Company, pursued her out of vengeance (the Night Lords did eventually join in pursuit, but that was only after the senior Captains realized that M'Shen had looted Curze of all his bling, which they wanted for themselves). It is believed that Curze had come to see himself as a murderous and corrupt villain - the very thing he had sought out to destroy (or perhaps he wished to prove that his decision to destroy Nostramo and join Horus was justified, as the Emperor had become one more tyrant who had to be slain in his eyes). Maybe he was the hero who lived long enough to become the villiain. We may never know the full story behind his actions, and his final words are considered one of the most bizarre enigmas in the Imperium's history.

And that was his ultimate fate.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-06 19:59:06 +0000 UTC]

Hoo-DANG!! That is some legacy!! And Sanguinius is covered in the eye of Sauron! Does that guy KNOW how cool he is? Also, THOSE LOCKS!! Wow. That is some plotline. I think he DEFINITELY crossed the line between bad/good guy in to on villain when he decided to torture a proven nice guy!! And those kids.....👿 Although when he finally did come to the end of his life, he was ready. And even though he new it was coming from basically when he was born, that takes guts. (Don't wanna admit it...) But yes, I do think he was evil. Anyone who takes the law into their own hands only to kill is most likely made out of the two most evil things in the universe, Goatees and the Internet.

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-06 21:04:53 +0000 UTC]

Sanguinius is basically the Jesus of Warhammer 40k, as he died for our sins. And here's his very similar looking brother, Primarch Fulgrim. www.deviantart.com/art/Fulgrim…

Looks like Sephiroth, huh? Only thing is, he came before him. And he's an enourmous, hedonistic, narsissistic, draman queen. Serves the Chaos God Slaanesh. A Traitor Primarch. genzoman.deviantart.com/art/Wa…

Other Traitor Primarchs include Magnus The Red, very strong contender for "The greatest psychic powerhouse in fiction'. www.deviantart.com/art/Magnus-… Serves the Chaos God Tzeentch. 1d4chan.org/images/9/97/Tzeent…

Also, Angron. The angriest son of a bitch in WH40k, which says a lot. Serves the Chaos God Khorne. 1d4chan.org/images/0/0a/Khorne… That's what he was like before the Heresy. 1d4chan.org/images/3/32/Angron… Now, after the Heresy, he looks like this. 1d4chan.org/images/b/b8/Angron…

The "good guys" also have awesome Primarchs. Corvus Corax, master of black ops and stealth. 1d4chan.org/images/3/3e/Delive…

Rogal Dorn, master of impenetrable fortifications and has a pimping mustache. 1d4chan.org/images/8/80/DORNBA…

Jaghatai Khan, Genghis Khan.. if he was a good guy.. that was a reckless speed demon with a kickass bike... in SPACE! www.deviantart.com/art/KHAN-13…

And Leman Russ. Space Viking. THAT. IS. ALL. www.deviantart.com/art/Leman-R… Yes, these wolves are tank-sixed. He was raised by them.

And they are ALL sons of THIS GUY. genzoman.deviantart.com/art/Wa… Who is now reduced to THIS. destraudo.deviantart.com/art/4… He's still alive. Barely.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-07 05:45:32 +0000 UTC]

Ah! I CANNOT SEE THE MUSTACHE! In fact, any link that does not come from deviantart doesn't work! Wow, through, that last one? To go from that firestorm of awesomeness to that sad little sack is skin and bones,(I'm assuming that they ARE made out of normal things at least?) that sucks. Plain and simple. And MAN, all those kids?! I take it he can't have known about all of them seeing as Leman Russ was raised by wolves. Man, I want one of those!! (You really like this game, do you not?) it really stinks hear guys were not all on the same side! If they were they literally could have done ANYTHING! And such ARMOR!! It was all so BEAUTIFUL! I am incredibly impressed by all those individual designs! And they all seem to have they're own type of insanely powerful weapons, how does their dad PAY for all this?! Even though he's a ruler of a planet/galaxy. (Keep in mind I did not see all of the armor designs, so if their not Individual, I couldn't have known.) This sounds like a VERY complicated storyline! How do you keep track of it all?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-07 09:36:40 +0000 UTC]

It's not a storyline. It's lore for the game. A tabletop game, in fact. It's simpler than it looks. Yes, there's a lot to absorb. But if you look at it one by one, it's easier. I'll try to find links that work.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-07 20:03:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! (!!!!!!!!!) a table top game?! I have rarely encountered game that looked so difficult! Though you said it was actually pretty simple if you looked at it one at a time, right?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-08 10:22:14 +0000 UTC]

Yep. Depends on whether you want to look at it chronologically orby one race at a time.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-09 01:37:14 +0000 UTC]

Whoa! How fast can you play a game like that!?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-09 09:22:07 +0000 UTC]

Oh, it takes HOURS! Not to mention just finding the proper models is a pain in the ass and a wallet killer. I suggest you play the Real Time Strategy videogame series Dawn of War. It's loads of fun!

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-09 17:08:07 +0000 UTC]

It sounds like a lot of fun!

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-09 17:07:35 +0000 UTC]

It SOUNDS like a pain in all places unmentionable! It also sounds like a time killer game. And Dawn of War, is that one a card game, or is it only video game? And Real Tine Strategy? Is that a term, or does it really teach you strategy?

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-09 18:05:59 +0000 UTC]

A strategy videogame. Real Time Strategy or RTS for short, is when you play in real time, constantly adapting to the threats that appear. It requires better thinking and reflexes. It's the opposite of turn based strategy games, like chess. Warcraft is an RTS, for example.

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-09 19:26:27 +0000 UTC]

I am totally at an utter loss at video games/computer games! Forgive my ignorance!

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-10 11:11:35 +0000 UTC]

Aww, no worries!

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-10 17:53:57 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! My friend is always having to explain why who is doing what and why they're doing it!

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oODark-DawnOo In reply to SilasShrike [2016-01-11 16:14:43 +0000 UTC]

Want me to elaborate on the game? Or the setting behind it?

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SilasShrike In reply to oODark-DawnOo [2016-01-11 19:38:10 +0000 UTC]

I wouldn't mind both! If you want to, that is! I must be educated in video games! Or card table games!

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