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A sketch I did of Shepard (Mass Effect) and Master Chief (Halo) arm wrestling. Got this idea randomly one morning.Overall, I love how it turned out. I kind think I could've done better on Shepard, but there wasn't much reference helping me.
Took about 2 days total, used nothing but my granite and charcoal pencils.
Drawn on 18 x 12 in. sheet paper.
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Sorry but Master Chief Spartan-117 John would win. He always wear a 500 kg armor like it was silk, his bones are reinforced and he can lift 250 kg in one hand without any difficulty.
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and shepard is dead half reaper cyborg with abillity to melee yaghs and tear tanks with biotics. Poor chief
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Hey Arklyte, i appreciate you trying to defend shep, but although i'd give them a tie on a one on one, the chief would easily win an arm wrestling match. it takes 4 hits to kill a soldier for shep, but 1 for chief.
It takes a rocket for shep to kill a tank. It takes three to four punches to kill a heavily armoured, highly advanced tank for MC.
and before you say the tanks in ME are advanced, just keep in mind that humans are tied with lots of races(NOT REAPERS) tech-wise in ME.(At least in gameplay. i don't know about other stuff 
Also about your other two comments:
1-You're talking about biotics, this is an arm-wrestling match. Shepard would cheat if he used them.
2-If Shepard could carry 5+1 weapons, chief definitely could. Remember, shep's weapons can fold, chief's don't
Let's agree on two things: They're both ass-kicking epic super-soldiers. And also, both of them are genetically enchanced half cyborg-ish super soldiers trained at a young age... named john XD. they're actually kind of similar.
Sorry about the lecture. I just couldn't hang around without you actually knowing what you're talking about. And before you flame like hell, i just wanted you to know i like both game series AND both characters as much as each other, they're actually my two most favourite!
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maybe you're right... I really have forgotten that we're speaking about arm-wrestling match.
I'm just tired to hear that shepard is "weaker" only because people don't know ME lore. The only reason shepard is considered weak by most people is that he is chained to classes for gameplay reasons. All canon non-game materials count him(but they really have only 2-3 sentences about him at best) as all classes at the same time(he was exposed to eezo in childhood no matter the class and most of his soldier and enginner abillities are tied to equipment).
Chief has a little "cheat" storywise: while there are thousands of enchanced veteran soldiers in ME universe, in Halo universe only humans create Spartans. Wonder how good would be chief against bioengineered brute?
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Good to see you're sensible and actually making sense 
Just keep this in mind: When you think about a powerful unit in ME, think about its Halo counterpart.
And before you say "Shepard killed a reaper by himself" Remember that cheif took down a super-carrier
A capital reaper is half as powerful as a super-carrier (i think
Super carrier: Plasma weaponry, 10 Km long, it's also pretty fast for its size.
Capital Ship Class Reaper: Laser/Molten metal mass effect weaponry, 2 km long, Can outrun normandy
Actually they're pretty equal XD. And they have the same numbers too. If reapers fought the covenant though, i think the covenant (While they still have elites) can beat them. Also we've gone WAY off-topic XD. Let's say they're both just awesome series and end this. What do you say?
P.S Don't you think a war between the reapers and the covenant would be awesome? XD.
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Covenant can't defeat Reapers for the same reason they can't defeat Flood and Protheans were unable to stop Reapers. Strength of Reapers is not in ships and their sizes(wonder how long will that super carrier stand 1on1 vs sovereign class reaper considering information from both lores
This series were good, but after seeing trailers for some Halo movie and ME
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Yeah, you've got a good point. The covenant and protheans are very similar. And halo may also be dead
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Do you know that reapers and protheans are on different sides of the fence? 👍: 0 ⏩: 3
If you look at Halo and ME lore, you will see that even Prothean vs Covenant is too far from being a draw. As far as lore tells it's Covenant(were defeated by less advanced humans with lesser millitary strength)<
Do you guys know nothing about reapers and covenant tech.
Reaper Lava gun/Molten metal yields at about 150 to 160 kilotons, kilotons not megatons.
Reaper shields yield at about 100 to 200 kilotons as it takes 4 ME dreadnoughts to match a reaper as stated in ME and ME weapons yield from 10 or 15 kilotons(frigates) to 38 kilotons(800 meter dreadnoughts) and about 45 kilotons(destiny ascension if it even has mass accelerator). Also if Reapers shields yield in the megatons it would take a fleet of ME ships and thousands of rounds from frigates and hundreds of rounds from a dreadnoughts to even take out the kinetic shields of of single reaper.
And then we have the Kinetic shields they are weak can stop anything but Kinetic base weapons and as far as I know energy weapons would go right through.
Now for the Covenant tech.
Covenant shields range in the low and high megatons depending on the class of ship. How do I know simple, it takes multiple rounds from a frigates MAC to penetrate a covenant ship. And no, UNSC frigates MAC don't yield 64 kilotons and those who think it dose are morons, 64 kilotons is low yield and is fire in atmosphere to avoid friendly fire or something. High yield take's longer to charge about 30secs per shot and it can yield around in the low to high megatons. Proof go read the books it tells you how fast a stander MAC can fire and whats the speed that it's fire.
Covenant weapons they have energy projectors they have been known to snipe UNSC ships from hundreds of thousands of kilometers away, energy projector can yield in the megatons to even gigatons as it can glass planets easily, then their are the plasma torpedoes it's like a heat seeking missile in steroids can easily down ships in 1 hit. And covenant use energy base weapons heavily, reapers kinetic shields wont even block the covenant weapons.
And the only reason the Forerunners lost was because the flood can take any information that it's victim had, so it knows how to use forerunner tech it knows the location of forerunner worlds even other worlds, the forerunners were at war with and equally advance race or parasite they lose one don't worry we can infect 1000 others ouch, try to win that war.
And the reason why humans won was because we were hiding for most of the war if it wasn't for the sangheili earth would have been lost humanity would have lost we rarely won any of the engagements yea we took out a ship or more every now and then but with extreme casualties.
And the reason why the reapers won was because the ME races are retarded to put all of their info in the citadel, planet locations, military capabilities, military weakness, military numbers everything was their for every one to see then they had men in the inside to sabatash(don't know how to spell it but I hope most of you know what I am talking about) them. All Me races build their technology around element zero(MASS EFFECT) and the Reapers had more knowledge then the ME races did. So the reapers were superior to ME in every way they had men in the inside they knew of everything that ME races had their is 95% of the reapers wining this the other 5% is luck of wining witch ME 3 had.
So no Reapers can't win against the covenant.
And to the main topic Master chief would win hands down why one he augmented heavily yes Shepherd is augmented two but not as heavily as MC not even close to how heavily augmented MS is, MC has bones that are unbreakable has been trained since he was 4 has about 30 years of military experience other 10 or 20 are bootcamp or him being in cryo.
MC can flip a tank like nothing has armor the weights over a thousand pounds.
Shepherd has what 10 years military experience half of that is him in a ship and over 3 years in a coma. Yea he has fast reflexes but noting compare to a spartan or a spartan in his armor. Yea shepherd may have biotics but wont do nothing to some one weighing over 1500 or more pounds that armor is self is more then a thousand pounds then add a MC inside. And as seen from the game biotics don't work well against shields opponents even more so against some who weight allot.
Master Chief>Shepherd by far!!!.
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/after reading to the end/ What a useless waste of my time
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Yeah, that's all fine and dandy, but what you're not getting is that most successes made in halo were due to betrayals. Such as the elites joining the UNSC(Big turn of odds since the covenant lost their best soldiers while the UNSC gained them), and the flood assimilating the forerunners' soldiers into themeselves(Which was due to them not having ENERGY SHIELDS for every soldier unlike the covenant had for its elites and brutes.) And another thing, plasma kills most organics(Normal humans, for example) and burns armor off completely(That goes for ANY armor, including sangheili armor) in one small shot, and the covenant had a ton of every soldier equipped with this tech. Also, the protheans would most likely be classified as a tier 1 race, which the forerunners also were, thus Protheans=Forerunners. I have NO IDEA why the overpowered forerunners with armor 6 times better than the MJOLNIR, and with guns that shoot energy sword things DIDN'T install shields(Which would've been MUCH more powerful than prothean infantry shields anyway(Javik's shields in-game are not that different than shepard's due to them being BOTH mass effect shields)) in their armor, i'm guessing it's explained somewhere in the canon. And the best, closest comparison i can give with the reapers and protheans is Prothean=Forerunner, Reapers=Flood. The forerunners would be better fit fighting the reapers than the flood if anything considering the MJOLNIR, which ISN'T mass effect-powered armor, is already TONS better than N7 armor, now multiply MJOLNIR combat effectiveness(Class 12 combat skin for example) by 6-8, and you have what alot of forerunner troopers already have. And i'd like to note how ridiculous this has spiraled from an arm-wrestling match DX
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haven't yet seen flood using diversion, indoctrination, advanced engineering and etc. But if you say so)) Pity you fail to understand that Reapers "outtech" Protheans for thousands of years.
Combat skin classes aren't used to describe their power, but instead their version. For example Chiefs armor is considered envirosuit with closed system which class 12 lacks.
If you want to proof that I'm wrong I suggest you'd better read both codex's/lores beyond "what you remember from hearing in the game". At least learn what n7 means and why Standart Alliance Soldier=Spartan III and N7=Spartan II.
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Well keep in mind even the Reapers use kinetic barriers and forerunners/covenant use non-kinetic weapons.
It's also important to note that reapers are part organic meaning the flood could infect them not to mention the halo array which destroys EVERYTHING organic in the galaxy.
So don't count either groups as nothing in comparison to the reapers.
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reapers can interact on nano level, flood is using spores. Sorry, no chance. Reapers are 100% machines btw, just not in the sense you're giving to this word))
P.S. What do you know about kinetic barriers and how much do you know about "non-kinetic" shields of Forerunners?
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Well I ASSUMED (bad pun) that since the human reaper uses human DNA that it's part organic and thus the rest are... get my logic?
Well I know that kinetic barriers will only block weapons that use element zero or kinetic energy while forerunner shields block everything that it can also even in halo they're shields are ridiculously overpowered.
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From Halopedia:
Rockets, grenades, sniper bullets, and several other weapons can shred right through it. Energy shielding is also more vulnerable to plasma-based weaponry (e.g. the Covenant Plasma Pistol, especially overcharged) than to ballistic weaponry (e.g. the UNSC Assault Rifle).
+As far as I know spartan laser is the only non-projectile infantry weapon in Halo universe.
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That's a good point but I think you checked covenant shields rather than forerunner but nonetheless it makes life for the council harder (if they fight the covenant) when you consider that the bullets are the size of grains of sand. Also look up the cleansing beams.
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for what? Covenant has lost to humanity that is using gunpowder firearms. You sure that they have a chance against some bigger players?))
P.S. On whose designes and technology do you think Covenant shields are based?
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Covenant tech is EXTREMELY watered down versions of forerunner tech the good stuff is meant for humans only plus not many shields will protect you from the keys manouvore (spelling?) and other brilliant tactics like using a Nova nuke or super Mac guns or perhaps turning a slipspace drive into a improvised bomb that will tear a hole in space to a different dimension (that's what slipspace is right?) But nonetheless they wouldn't go silently into the night.
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So guilty spark and other guardins had thrown their shields out and replaced them with covenant designes? I haven't known that
And in your opinion humans(and other races) from ME universe not only aren't familiar with tactics at all, but also lack any form of ingenuity?
By the way, it seems I don't remember examples of Covenant tactical genius.
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That's not what I said (though guilty spark doing that would not be surprising) the UNSC is forced to use extreme tactics and ingenuity longer thus allowing for more examples and then there's the randomness of birth and all that plus the UNSC was already dealing with the insurrectionists and required large military forces longer therefore having more people and statistically more than one has to know amazing tactics and with the covenant they used tactics nothing jaw-dropping and not constantly but read fall of reach and you'll see a example.
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Allience military forces and doctrine from ME codex:
The Alliance military is respected by the Citadel races for its novel tactics and technology (and not least for the fact the First Contact War had more turian than human casualties). Their strength lies in fire support, flexibility, and speed. The Council regards the Alliance as a "sleeping giant" as only 3% of humans volunteer for military service. They make up for low numbers with sophisticated technical support (VIs, drones, artillery, electronic warfare) and emphasis on mobility and individual initiative. Their military doctrine is not based on absorbing and dishing out heavy shocks like the turians and krogan. Rather, they bypass enemy strong points and launch deep into their rear, cutting supply lines and logistics, destroying headquarters and support units, leaving enemies to 'wither on the vine'.
On defense, the Alliance military lives by Sun Tzu's maxim, "He who tries to defend everything defends nothing." Only token garrisons are placed on their colonies. These are intended for scouting rather than combat, avoiding engagement to observe and report on invaders using drones. However, the Alliance stations powerful fleets at mass relay nexuses so that in the event of an attack they respond with overwhelming force.
The Hahne-Kedar company and Aldrin Labs are key suppliers of the military. All soldiers receive gene therapy for improved strength and stamina. The Alliance also recruits biotics, who are trained using techniques developed at BAaT (originally run by Conatix Industries). The new L3 biotic implants are considered a significant step forward in biotic amplification.
The Alliance maintains an impressive navy consisting of over 200 vessels ranging from small hundred meter frigates to imposing kilometer long dreadnoughts and carriers. It is one of the greater forces in Citadel space and a serious rival to that of the turians, however, the Alliance is only entitled to a small number of dreadnoughts compared to the turians, a 1 to 5 ratio as of 2183, due to the Treaty of Farixen limiting their construction among the citadel races. The Alliance navy has made up for this with the innovative design and deployment of carriers, which are as large as dreadnoughts but are not restrained by the Treaty of Farixen. The fleet is headquartered at Arcturus Station, a strategically invaluable installation whose system contains several primary mass relays leading to human territory in addition to the secondary mass relay to Earth, and as such it is heavily defended by sizable naval forces.
Very peacefull and ineffective))
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Good point but this is them at peace we'd only know their true extent if they had around 800 worlds with a large amount of them having insurrectionists for a few years then a fanatical alien race with drastically more advanced technology turning their worlds to glass.
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Warhammer 40k universe is a result))
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...Wait just one damn minute... you may be onto something there.
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I'm starting to smell a idea being worked on. Waiting... ... ...
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One fun thing about mass effect any crossover could work because of the reapers.
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Why? They're a good enemy for a crossover, but they ruin almost any way of merging 2 lores.
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Well if they can make things of any size go halfway across the galaxy in seconds than think of everything else they could do... I also read stories that merged halo and mass effect pretty well.
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can you give me a few links to a longer ones?
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Don't know how to work links but on fanfiction.net (and perhaps here) look up Mass Effect: salvation.
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It's really hard to find good stories on fanfiction.net. Especially now when search don't show all stories.
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Well you can go to a story that's listed as a crossover and in the upper area which will lead to the stories of the crossover (you need to choose all in ratings to se all stories) and in the corner there's a choice for to see all crossovers for either item (ex:mass effect and halo).
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I know, but for examples some of the my favourite crossovers aren't shown in the list anymore despite being on the site.
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I see... well google might help I suppose but oh well I guess.
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shep and cheif: 1, 2, 3, GO!
shep: (groans and stuggles)
chief: you ok there shepard?
shep: im.... FINE
chief: good (pushes down, brakes the table and shepards arm) whoops
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shep and cheif: 1, 2, 3, GO!
biotic blast...
shep: chief, are you okay? chief? chief...
shep: maybe, I should better leave?
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you had to go there -_- XD
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chief is a tough guy. He'll wake up, eventually))
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Best part? UNBREAKABLE BONES...for chief.
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will it help him to come to his senses quicker?
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You know that Shepard can use EDI if he ever lose all his skills in tech?))
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Well EDI is going to get screw in the ass when she meets cortana.
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because? Any proof beyond Halo fanboy, who doesn't know ME lore?
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Because EDI isn't able to do the same amount of calculations that Cortana is capable of, plus EDI can't process the history of Humanity in hours. It would take her years...
EDI is stored in a fucking box that probably weighs four tons while Cortana is stored inside a small datacrystal and still retains all of her processing power. Also, Cortana is able to coordinate and protect entire battlegroups of UNSC warships while EDI barely manages to protect one ship.
This is beyond mere fanboyism. These are facts. Something that you do not understand.
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A very, very, good point but cortana is extremely advanced even for a UNSC smart AI and they worked on them before (SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT) VI EDI was on the moon.
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Cortana is a copy of Dr.Halsey's mind and will achieve her own personality only after she goes through all stages of rampancy(which might take thousands of years). Only after that she can be called a real AI.
EDI is based on VI Hannibal that was used in experiments to create controlled AI specialised in field of electronic warfare. Later its remnants were modified with parts of reaper technology and coding resulting in creation of EDI. Later in the series, EDI was not only released from any control, but also further modified herself with "Anti-Reaper Algorithms" and even obtained its/her own body.
I guess Cortana will be better than EDI in the lab because of her "mother", but latter will outclass former in "noisy" situations of the battlefield.
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