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Published: 2012-06-05 19:29:40 +0000 UTC; Views: 3132; Favourites: 19; Downloads: 46
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A sketch I did of Shepard (Mass Effect) and Master Chief (Halo) arm wrestling. Got this idea randomly one morning.Overall, I love how it turned out. I kind think I could've done better on Shepard, but there wasn't much reference helping me.
Took about 2 days total, used nothing but my granite and charcoal pencils.
Drawn on 18 x 12 in. sheet paper.
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Chief, I wouldn't hold hands with that guy for too long.
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Why do you think so? Maybe, it's not biotic pre-mass effect 2 shepard? Chief is known for his luck.
Unlike Shepard, who is known for his skills, powers and abillity to carry 5(+1 heavy) weapons instead of 2.
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Chief is also known for jumping through the atmosphere of Earth without being turned into piles of meat that could only barely be called a body. Also chief's skills, strength, experience, and intelligence aren't non-existent overshadowed yes but not non-existant.
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how long would have he survived orbital drop in non-specialized damaged armor? Basic Cerberus troopers are using orbital drop.+ Tech difference between ME and Halo universe is quiet obvious. Chief can't even dream about equipment soldiers of ME universe can use.
I think that Shepard is better because unlike Chief, he is fighting not only foes superior in numbers, but also equal in power(most veteran mercs can buy millitary equipment and biotics aren't a rare sight on a battlefield).+ How high are Chief's successes in fields of engineering, hacking, field medicine and biotics?))
I never stated that he was bad. He's a one of the best soldiers in video games(but still lacking some things that his protypes had. He's still pretty far from being called Space Marine.), but he's just a soldier. He might be better than Vega or Garrus, but Shepard is known neither for luck, nor for his battle expirience(despite the fact that he does have a lot of both). Shepard is an commanding officer above all.
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The Chief has fallen from orbit multiple times. The MJOLNIR MARK VI was already damaged when he fell through Earth's atmosphere and you're saying he didn't have damaged armor... The Chief is pretty good at field medicine. He has tended to wounded Marines if I remember right and the Chief is able to punch Shepard's head off by what we would consider a friendly pat on it. If SPARTAN-IIs can fight Hunters or Brutes in hand-to-hand with bare hands, then killing Shepard is just as easy as throwing an Unggoy away.
The Covenant are definitely more advanced. It doesn't matter if your footsoldiers are engineered or not, they're all way more advanced. They fire plasma and are equipped with shielding that actually protects its user against all types of damage. In space, it's a common sight that ships tank megaton-range explosions or high-end triple digit kiloton impacts while in Mass Effect a triple digit kiloton impact is overkill.
I'd suggest you reconsider blind fanboyism without viewing facts first.
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I wasn't saying Shepard was pathetic but chief typically fights foes who are more numerous and advanced sometimes equal when concerning flood... also I'll admit chief isn't unstoppable because of the weight of his metal bones, ridiculous muscles, and his armour he can't swim and how well chief is in those fields well:he can drive/pilot anything, don't know of hacking but wouldn't be surprised with either ends of the spectrum, all Spartans were given considerable training in field medicine, and biotics... ya got him there.
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Metal bones? I guess it would be harder to find flesh in Shepards body after Lazarus project(if you play as renegade Shepard, you can see what he has under the skin). Advanced foes? I guess I haven't noticed the moment when Covenant started using bioengineered soldiers. Shepard has everything that chief has and also some other things.
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The covenant uses plasma weapons UNSC doesn't. And elites can fight on even ground with Spartan II's the brutes are stronger (although less intelligent) do I even need to describe hunters and glassing.
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Plasma weaponry is just another form of projectile weaponry. Kinetic shield will react to it like to slow, but big projectile - redirect it.
P.S. seems I have forgotten that UNSC also have flamethrowers. They are also able to penetrate shields.
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I suppose that if it was a ammo mod from mass effect one it would probably be incendiary rounds XXVIII or something do to the EXTREME heat that could give you third-degree burns even with mjorner (however you spell it) armor on. I'll admit that mass effect armor names are easier to pronounce and spell.
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really? I thought that assault rifle rounds from ME universe that simply have higher speed than projectiles of Halo universe gauss weapons while having same projectile weight will be enough to kill your hero in 1(2 if shields are full and he's lucky) shots. I guess you will now say that I was wrong and Chief is still better no matter the lores and differencies in tech level.
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Well which would you rather tiny bullet passes through you or giant bullet usually either getting stuck or shattering on the inside of your body.
And we can't actually test it unless you can enter video games...which by proxy we're at a impasse.
Why are we arguing this again?
After all they'd team up against The Reapers... which would be awesome (small note:John before his first mission (I think before augmentation too) could kick a knee of a cyclops mech and it would shatter...not completely of course).
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As for the picture itself: without armor it would be a draw/shepard win. But the problem is that Chief's armor was built with high priority strength enhancement in mind. Most Shepard's armor suits don't use servos.
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Well chief at 14 or so could take down three battle-hardened helljumpers at once and he probably only got better.
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More expirienced. Spartans were injected with growth enhancing drugs so we don't know in what physical condition he was when he was 14. At the start of Halo 4 he will be around 47years old(41 biologicaly due cryostasis used during travelling).
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That's true but I still wouldn't go into a boxing, wrestling, or mma match with him or any sport for that matter.
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You're safe because you have different weight categories.
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Yeah... still the thought of what would happen...
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Sometimes, meeting ordinary human can carry much worse results. For example, imagine you've met Vaas from Far Cry 3))
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What'd be worse is meeting the flood or (dear God, please don't allow this) the thing from John Carpenter's... The Thing (watch it).
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this way we will be speaking about Lovecraft-ian horrors in no time.
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People always complain about the prequil (lapse of memory on it's spelling) when the "two-face" transformation scene alone was enough to terrify me.
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Sorry, but I don't like horrors. Trying to scare myself on purprose is quite close to masochism. But Reapers really are doing something like that. And unlike Flood they create their soldiers as abominations on purprose.
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Have you read what happens to those used as part of a gravemind it's...unsettling.
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I know. Do you think that being turned into a husk is better? Not to mention worse things.
Flood is creating monsters becauce it can't make anything better as it wasn't designed for it. Reapers can create complicated life forms and tech, but they aren't. As Javik said in ME3, making you fight former loved ones turned into monsters is part of their way of waging war.
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Personally I'd rather stay away from them both but that's just me.
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Just as any normal human being that prefers to be alive and in it's original form.
Have just watched Leviathan walkthrough. Even creators of Reapers had some problems with their mind
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Wait, wait, wait, leviathan is out?
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Need to check the price on xbox live.
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don't... You can always buy it later. You will save yourself some money if you buy it with other future singleplayer campaign dlc's(if they will come out). Alone it's not worth it's money. It's much smaller than LoSB. Maybe the same length as Arrival.
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Generally due to my current economic... situation I usually restrict myself to free dlc though sometimes when things are going good (for quite awhile lately and hopefully for quite awhile longer) I get the dlc like the prothean dlc.
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you've already payed for Javik? Was it worth it?
It would have been better if you would have simply bought "game of the year" edition after all dlc's(I thought it would have been more effective in "content/money" sense).
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It was worth it (prothean particle rifle with incendiary "rounds" is unstoppable) you learn some interesting facts.
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and how high is its effectiveness against kinetic shielding?
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Really high since that's it's specialiality (spelling?) however without incendiary activated it's near useless against armor... it also has infinite ammo however you need to take breaks in your firing like in mass effect 1.
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I know. I've seen it in use(even used myself, but on my friend's pc). Just referring to our talk about beam weapons and kinetic barriers))
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Still unless we have the specs on both weapons and real life examples our mere bickering will solve NOTHING!... so find a way to enter video games and take the desired items... particle rifle is still useless against armor without the incendiary ammo.
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I doubt I would have remembered about our little argument if I would have been able to find a way to get there, survive long enough to lay my hands on respective technology and get away with it. "Knowledge is power" and such tech can give you a lot of it))
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Good point... you know finding the specs for the universal constructors in deus ex would be nice... think of all that could be done.
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I doubt there is sci-fi book/film/game with nanotech as effective in Invisible War, but I would have been happy with simple knowledge of Reaper/Forerunner/Eldar/Protoss/Ancients tech and science))
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Same here except replace protoss with xel'naga (same franchise) and Helios from deus ex would be nice since it would make a true democracy and terrifying military.
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Helios can achieve not only true democracy, but even true communism. But the price is quite a question when dealing with Helios.
In such case lets also replace Eldar with Old Ones))
I guess Deus Ex gives us highest possible level of nanotech and augmentation(unless ME Synthesis ending is chosen). What can we take from others?
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I'm not sure... SWORD OF AEONS! Look it up. And what's the price of Helios? I revisited it's ending and the closest thing to a price is lose of privacy (not like we had much to start with) because you would still be yourself except you'd know everything that everyone else dose and vice versa (correct saying?)
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I thought that Helios was taking full control of humanity... It was long ago, it's likely I don't remember. It might have meant only social control, not personal.
The only "Sword of Aeons" I remember, is a legendary weapon from Fable:TLC. Google agrees with me on that. What have you meant?
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Well it's extremely powerful story-wise being able to shape reality when in the hands of the right User... also in Fable 1 you can get it through evil ending and watching the ridiculously long credits.
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Archon was the first Will user and he bargained with the sword only for the defeat of the council. He had a power to change the world even without the sword. Even hero of Fable 3 was able to morph objects with raw magic power. And he hadn't even 1/1000 part of power that Hero of Oakvale had. Not to mention William Black.
I doubt that trading your soul for the power is such a good idea. Archon was able to break his contact with the sword and leave becoming known as Scyth, but I doubt ordinary human can live through this.
+We were talking about technology.
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I was running out of ideas sue me (NOT LITERALLY) but in all honesty I'm pretty much out of ideas and technically a sword is technology but I digress... perhaps quantum tech from supreme commander.
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who said that mass accelerator weapons are firing toothpicks? For example assault rifles such as falcon, which fires 20(or more)mm grenades, and chakram launcher, which fires projectile of the size of crossbow bolt/dagger. And you have seen projectiles of shotguns.
ME weapons are caged in specific diaposon of projectile speed because of two things: "overpenetration" and recoil. Despite all forms of lowering recoil, most heavier ME weapons(the ones used by soldier classes) can shatter your shoulder if you don't have specialized armor plating/implants. Think about what it will do to your enemies?
ME weapon systems don't use ammo catridges because they create projectiles the same way as omnitool before each shot(through nanotechnology and reserves of omnigel).
Reply to "small note": which once again proves that chief's overhyped anime(abandon of logic and physic laws is part of that genre) rip off version of space marine. He would have just turned his hand in meat chunk. No matter how strong you are, metal is still more solid than flesh))
P.S.: before you say:"They have metal bones", no, they don't. It's just a carbone coating that won't stand against a dense material of war machine. All Shepards companions have not only bone coating, but also a dermal armor under their skin(no spartan has gotten that yet). And you know what equipment was used to recreate Shepards own body.
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