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SPOILERS for ME3The endings for ME3 are unimaginably awful. They retroactively sour the whole franchise.
They are bad, stupid, and nonsensical.
BUT the series can be salvaged. All they need to do is release a DLC with more endings, good endings. They don't need to ditch the ones they have, just add some more satisfying ones.
Only 3 things are needed to make this okay.
1. Shepard lives/if their LI lived they are together at the end.
2. The Mass Relays are intact. Nobody is stranded years from home.
3. The Reapers are destroyed/sent away for XK years.
I play games to escape reality. To live a life that I could never experience here, to do things I could never do, to accomplish things I could never achieve. I do not play games to watch a character I have poured hours into playing and tons of emotional investment into fail and die. This will not stand.
If you agree please visit these groups/polls/etc and let your voice be heard.
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Basic image found through Google.
EDIT: If you want to use this image for any reason in support of our cause feel free. Credit would be nice but I care more about spreading the word.
EDIT 2: Due to how much attention this is getting when I try to respond to all the comments AND thank people for faving, I end up getting frozen for a while for "spamming". So I'm sorry that for the moment I cannot thank you all for faving, but I do really appreciate it! Hold The Line!
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OMG! You echo my thoughts and sentiment exactly!!! Spoilers below!!!!
My only difference is I was ok with relays being destroyed BUT since the Arrival clearly stated that relays blowing up destroy systems I really thought it was ridiculous that everyone in the galaxy blew up.
I mean they can make the good ending hard to get but c'mon let it be in there...the whole argument of the catalyst gave is circular....we created an army of synthetics to destroy advanced organics who might create synthetics in order to keep the created synthetics from killing organics.....WTH kind of nonsense is that?! My husband and I were just shaking our heads at our endings. I honestly feel betrayed by a developer I used to admire for the quality of their narrative. Right now it just feels like they are saying "ha, see we can do what we want and you'll still buy our games." I really hope they consider this option of endings DLC.
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Same, you echo my thoughts as well. Hold The Line.
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I agree with what you said about escapism. The whole "dark and gritty" trend ticks me off for that exact reason.
But ME is especially bad, since in the past two games, hard work could turn any lose-lose (well, Virmire excepting) into a win and earn someone a happy ending. To yank all that away literally at the last minute is outright sadistic.
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100% agree with you. This phase of "dark and gritty" is absurd. Very few people really like bad endings.
And for those who do, I have no problem with the current endings existing. I just want more options.
Agreed. The tone just completely clashes with everything that went before.
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Yes. I mean I had the Geth and Quarion's fighting for me. I had EDI. So the only 'hostile' Synth's and AI's were...the reapers. Right there the catalyst's argument falls apart.
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Shepard: "I have Synthetics and Organics working with me to fight you, your argument is invalid."
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Also
Shepard: "So why didn't you just open the mass relay for the reapers when the keepers didn't."
Star Child: "Uhhh...."
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Yes yes yes yes yes a thousand times yes. The endings are a massive dissapointment if not out right betrayal. A complete and utter invalidation of every other choice i've made since ME1.
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Hmm this might be the morning grogginess talking but what if the crucible turned the reapers back into what races they were...
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That would be freaking amazing. I don't require that to make me happy, but it's a super cool idea.
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that or turn all the reapers into humans and let them suffer the fate of being human
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But you know that Shepard can survive, yes? You just have to have a big enough EMS rating.
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Yes I know. But he's still stranded on who knows what planet, badly injured, alone, and without supplies. He's likely to die from his wounds due to no medical help, or starve.
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Now you're just being pessimistic. X'3
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Maybe, lol. But that's the tone they left us with so I'm just carrying it to it's logical conclusion.
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Yeah, I agree with the fact that they left us with A LOT of unanswered questions. So while I'm not waiting for a DLC with alternative endings, I'm waiting for a DLC that completes the endings that we did get in the game. x'3
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That ending isn't worth it and full of holes already.
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I can agree that the ending is full of holes and that BioWare could've done a better job on that, but it feels a bit odd to complain that you can't get the ending you want unless you play the game.
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Well maybe I worded it wrong. I'll try again.
Mass Effect 2 gave you a suicide mission. People were expecting to die. And yet if you work enough you get rewarded. People were expecting something similar with this. Mass Effect is about choices. And Bioware boasted "your choices matter" in the end. Which turned out to be false. There's no replay value in this game unless you just play up to a certain point then shut the game off. That's not really a good thing for a video game. Just having the fact that someone can get the same ending as someone who plays much more hours and puts much more effort into the plot is just insulting.
I can try to explain more if you want. I'm not here for a fight or argument please don't think I am.
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I get your point and I can agree with it, but in the end I loved the game and the ending doesn't ruin the rest of the game for me, so I'll replay it a lot of times.
And you don't have to explain more if you don't want to. I don't want to fight or argue and I don't think you're trying to do so in anyway either.
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I enjoyed the game too just up until the last few minutes. Bit of a game killer really. ( I can respect players opinions like yours so long as you're polite ^^ ) I'm still frustrated but I think the "shock" is wearing off. I kind of want to go back and enjoy the good parts of the game. Just to walk around and talk to everybody. I missed a lot of dialogue because of those "no cutscene dialogue" bits on the ship.
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I can respect your opinion too, and agree with it too, but I also feel that the rest of the game is forgotten because most fans rage on about the ending which is kind of sad really, because the game overall was an awesome one (in my opinion). But I'm not saying I wouldn't buy it if BioWare would make a DLC with a new ending, or just a slightly modified one filling out the holes that's in the existing ones. Because I would definitely want a better "epilogue", describing what happened to all your companions, LI's, the other races and such things.
And I miss the dialogue-cutscenes that they had in the last two games. It was nice to be able to ask the other characters something, even if you've asked them the same thing ten times, just to have a small conversation with them.
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I know what you mean. I loved the game. But knowing that everything you did didn't really matter in the end can kill replay value. I miss the game myself. I might play it again but stop before you go after Cerberus. Parts of this game hit my emotions like a truck enough as it is. It sucks to know that those emotions people felt during the game lead up to...well. That.
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I'm not sure what you mean by "everything you did didn't really matter". Because from what I've read in walkthrough guides, and from what I've experienced from the game itself, because most of what I did had an impact on the ending and the game.
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Well you can do everything you possibly can. However when you get to the endings. It really boils down to "what's your favorite color?" You don't get to see the endings to all the efforts you put in. It just stops and rolls credits. So no matter what you do really you are left with these endings
"Shepard dies, Relays are destroyed, Geth and Edi are destroyed." The geth one is for Destroy.
Here
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Have a look around there. Please be civil if you comment. There's plenty of players there who explain it better then I could.
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Alright, thank you. Now it's easier to understand why people are so angry about the endings and I DO agree with it, but I guess I'm just putting my trust in BioWare to have a plan of sorts with what they've done, and make a DLC (or a bunch of them) to explain everything we don't get about the ending, or a DLC with a different ending for those who want it (I might have a different view on this because I already knew my Shep would die whatever ending BioWare was going to give us).
And don't worry about me being civil or not. I always try my hardest to be civil, just because I really don't like it when others aren't.
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^^ *digital hand shake* It was nice talking to you.
I expected my shepard to die too. I was all ready for it. But none of them were really noble : / It made shepard seem like a coward who blindly agrees with an AI. You work so hard to save the Geth. Or talk with EDI. They are at risk too. The Synthesis ending makes you feel like you're playing God with Space Magic of all things. They just don't fit with the rest of the games.
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Nice talking to you too. ^^
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jop.. I decided to not buy ME3 after hearing about the endings.. they suck.. all of them. especially since there is absoluty no chance for a good/happy ending. no matter what you did, no matter how much work you put into great outcomes... *sigh*
I like dhow they handled this in ME2, giving gamers the chance to get a really good ending.
and I agree with you, I play games for the same reasons. and I surely don't play games to feel all sad in depressed in the end.
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If I had known the endings before hand I would've canceled my CE I ordered 6 months ago in a second. I avoided spoilers because I trusted Bioware, and this is what I get. Wow.
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I know... I just got Me2 about 3 weeks ago (I'm not so good when it comes to shooting things, so I wasn't sure that this game would be something for me). I have a friend who created a Shepard for me and played the game. and then I finally decided to try it and got me ME2, and I was actually thinking about getting ME3 as well (just waiting for it to get cheapter). My friend has the CE as well... *sigh* When she told me about the Mordin/Wrex desicion I already decided I wouldn't like that game. So I started reading about the actual ending, and.. wasn't please. It was my greatest fear very poorly made. *sigh* Not the right end for such a character and game.
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I can deal with Mordin, that at least felt meaningful. The ending is just....empty.
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I love Mordin, I probably would have tried saving him instead of Wrex... but yes, I actually can deal with that too... If there had been a really good ending.
for me Mass Effect was about how working together, respecting other races be open minded about diffences will help you achieve even the impossible. so yes I was hoping for a happy ending. I knew that there was a great chance for a "Shepard dies" ending, though I expected him/her dying by place a bomb somewhere without getting out in time, or something along these heroic selfless sacrificing line. that would have been ok as well. I just wanted a Shepard worthy ending.
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since you actually played the game: who is the end boss? because I haven't read anything about a real endfight, everyone just writes about the beam of Harbinger and then the Illusive Man killing himself... but nothing about the end fight. so... does Shepard actually fight the Illusive Man
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I haven't played it because I learned about it first. My sister did though. From what I gather there is no real end fight. I assume you can fight TIM if you don't have enough points to talk him down; like Saren.
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ah, so you're like me ^^
but no end fight? doesn't an epic story like Mass Effect deserves an epic end battle, not just a "lets talk about it" one.
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That is another complaint I've seen, but I could live with no end fight if the ending made sense and was good.
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of course.. with a good ending, most things don't really matter, because a good ending simply means that you feel satisfied, at least for most parts.
but then again... they actually had the chance for a real end fight.. either TIM or Harbinger (which I would prefer, because this guy was already annoying us in ME2, and killing him would be very, very satisfying).
but then neither getting a satisfied ending not an epid end fight... just very sad.
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Truth. The combination is an added portion of gut punch.
At this point I will accept any nonsensical crap it takes just to get a happy ending, but that was not my hope before the game came out.
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I hoped for a truly happy ending. I just love them. I want my Shepard to live happy ever after and finally have the time to rest a little bit and enjoy the galaxy. but I always knew that there was a goo chance for Shepard to die... and it would have been fine as well. I first feared that I simply didn't like the ending because I wanted a happy ending. but seeing that so mayn other people felt frustrated as well... none of us is asking for much. we just want the end to make sense. it really can't be so hard to write an ending that makes sense, can it? (no it can't. I saw so many fan written endings that made more sense than the actual ending.)
and btw, thank you so much for letting me rant here a little bit. my friend is really close to finish the game, but I don't want to spoil her, so I actually have no one to talk about... ^^
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Aww 
When they finish you can be there for them.
I totally understand the need to rant. I'm fortunate that my sister is right here with me. We've spent hours talking, sharing vids, showing each other manifestos and generally consoling each other.
And I obviously agree with everything you've said, 'cept I do insist on a happy ending. Always did. Just didn't realize how much until I didn't get it.
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oh.. I think after these crappy endings, if they want to please us.. they better have a good happy ending. as I always tell my friend: I want rainbows, glitter and unicorns. *laugh*
but I could live with a sacrifice ending.. not happily but I could. just make sure we get the feeling of "we won", "there is still hope", "the sacrifice was worth it".
my hopes really like with the "the ending was just a hallucination", because it makes sense. and if this actually was the real ending they have many storyholes and bugs in it, that they should be really, really ashamed.
I'm chatting with my friend and I'm trying to help her get the "best possible" ending (though I have to laugh/cry each time I use this term), without actually spoiling her. 
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I'm not sure if I could but....if it was like Mordin or Thane's death I could at least cry from genuine feelings about the moment, not because I was so shocked and disappointed.
I admit to starting to accept the dream thing as a viable option. Anything makes a million times more sense than the way things are now.
Well you can say "It's really bad" like my sister did without spoiling it. I hadn't seen the ending and pressed her for more details but even if your friend doesn't she'll at least kind of know. Though it's impossible to understand. :/
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that's what I mean. if Shepard dies it has to be a very heroic death. the "it's me or everyone else" type, because s/he is a realy hero, and it would fit the character. it's not the ending I want, and I really would love to be able to have the chance for a real happy end, but it's a kind of death that's at least okay.
and yes, the hallucination theory makes sense. it still doesn't explain the purpose of the reapers, so Bioware would have to come up with something there (because "creating synthetics to kill organics, so organics can't create synthetics that would kill organics" isn't really working for me).
no, I'm trying to help her get the "deep breath" ending... but I don't want to tell her that she should try to save Anderson - just to be sure, because that would surely spoil her. I made sure though that she remembers that the actual plan is "destroying the reapers"... and I told her that some took different options, so now she believes that Bioware came up with a good way to change gamers' mind. and I can't tell her that the actual problem is that all endings sound stupid and bad and not satisfying... *sigh* but since she knows I'm not happy with the ending, she knows that the ending is bad (I think she also knows about the whole "change the endings" movements).
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Agreed.
[link] In case you haven't seen it, if you have it never hurts to look again.
Hard to be in this fandom at all and not hear about the movement....I hope. Lol.
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the picture is good... I was so laughing when someone wrote about this theory... I can understand that someone things this actually makes sense, but only of they aren't really thinking about it.
I spent quite some time in the Bioware forum, and it kind of makes me sad that all the ones actually happy with the ending, say that we are only whining about it, because we didn't get the "happily ever after" ending. an no matter how often someone tried to explain to them, that it's not about (or not only about) us wishing for Shepard to finally get to have a good life, but more about that these endings didn't delievered what was promised and not even made sense logically speaking.
plus I think even though there might be more players being fine with the endings, who simply stay quite about it, but there sure es hell are so many who simply aren't happy, and who have the right to at least tell Bioware about that.
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Gotta find comfort somewhere. I can't even play TOR. Really need to try today, I miss enjoying things.
Honestly I think we're in the majority. I mean, the poll is like 35k to 870. We've got 90% saying they don't like the endings. That can't just be a vocal minority, whatever the gaming sites in EA's pocket say.
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