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SPOILERS for ME3The endings for ME3 are unimaginably awful. They retroactively sour the whole franchise.
They are bad, stupid, and nonsensical.
BUT the series can be salvaged. All they need to do is release a DLC with more endings, good endings. They don't need to ditch the ones they have, just add some more satisfying ones.
Only 3 things are needed to make this okay.
1. Shepard lives/if their LI lived they are together at the end.
2. The Mass Relays are intact. Nobody is stranded years from home.
3. The Reapers are destroyed/sent away for XK years.
I play games to escape reality. To live a life that I could never experience here, to do things I could never do, to accomplish things I could never achieve. I do not play games to watch a character I have poured hours into playing and tons of emotional investment into fail and die. This will not stand.
If you agree please visit these groups/polls/etc and let your voice be heard.
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EDIT 2: Due to how much attention this is getting when I try to respond to all the comments AND thank people for faving, I end up getting frozen for a while for "spamming". So I'm sorry that for the moment I cannot thank you all for faving, but I do really appreciate it! Hold The Line!
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*sigh*
so my friend just finished the game.. and she actually is at least okay with the ending. makes me kind of sad.
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maybe it's because she already knew I didn't like it, so she didn't expect that much. and apparently the ending makes.. some sense to her. *shrug* she wanted something else instead. but she doesn't mind not having a final battle, and she doesn't mind being left with so many new questions, and again, it seems she didn't see and pltoholes. not sure if she's aware that there actually is only one ending, since she only finished in once and didn't want me to tell her about the other endings. *sigh*
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Well if she's expecting other endings she's in for a sore disappointment, but it is what it is. If she doesn't mind them so much the better for her. At any rate you still have 30K+ people who agree with you, at least.
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yep.. I just had hoped to be able to talk with her about the possible "real" ending.
I will just wait for her to finish all the endings. ^^
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Well just because she's okay with the endings doesn't mean she can't want more right? Consider asking her to support for just that reason, regardless of like or dislike of the ending there should be more options.
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so I talked to her again.. and she's with me on the indoctrination theory thingy.. that's good.. because now we can imagine what the epic final battle would look like. just in case BW and EA don't manage to make one themselves...
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Man the Indoctrination theory is so comforting. Which is a depressing thing to say but.....there it is. Lol. Yes, we'd rather have your ending be a dream Bioware.
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this theory is just wonderful. it makes sense (at least more than the actual end), it gives hope, and everyone can actually have the ending they want.
want your shepard dead: no problem, he goes back fighting, and it killed in an epic fight against harbinger.
what you shepard alive: no problem, he goes back and survives the epic fight against harbinger.
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Agreed. I'm embracing it until they come out with something better, or with something expanding on our theory. Basically, DLC time Bioware. Fork it over.
So how many Sheps do you have, or just one?
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I always watched my friend play (I'm really bad with shooting things.. I need swords 
and then a month ago I finaly decided to get my own copy of ME2. I finished 1femShep and just created another maleShep when I read about the ME3 ending. Haven't touched the game since then.
how many do you have?
I think BW really needs to stop hiding. I fear they truely are waiting for the storm to calm down and then pretend nothing ever happened. Though then again... what really irritates me about the end is the "unlimited ammo" part. it just doesn't make sense, because they could have put munition everywhere, why suddenly switch to unlimited ammo? so this kind of gives me hope that there actually was a plan.
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*slightly embarrassed*
I had 9 set for ME3 (Though was gonna trade one out for a new one I just made a couple weeks ago).
3 Dudes and 6 Femsheps. I've done all the classes and several different romances(though not actually 9, a couple with no LI were played)
I have Bios on most of 'em in my gallery if you ever get super bored, not much point to 'em though if ME3 isn't fixed.
I'm a bit worried about that too, but then again I know this storm ain't moving on. They have to say something sometime.
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no need to be embarrassed. *laugh* my friend has so many character that she totally lost track of who did what, who dated whom and all that. It's really funny whenever she has to look through her handwritten notes to remember what kind of Shep she's playing right now.
I somehow always end up with romancing Garrus... it's really bad, but I can't resist. *laugh* (and seeing how the ME2 romances are handled in ME3... I think romancing Garrus isn't such a bad idea.) I might will have a walkthrough with making me a Shep who romance Liara and than staying true to her (I feel like I'm able to play ME2 again). But the maleShe I just created will romance Tali.
Did you see the statement one of the BW just gave? It's really sad that they can't simply stand up to the mistake they've made. I can ignore the bad ME3 ending (just fix the whole stupid MP thing, because I don't want to play MP, but I still would want to get the "perfect" ending), I probably would stop playing the game after getting hit bei Harbinger's beam, and then just pretend my real ending happened. But BW and EA really have to start being honest with us. By releasing blabla statements they aren't really helping the situation.
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Lol. I had notes for a while too, and now I have profiles for them on dA so....yeah. Lol.
You're like my sister. She's always like "Ohh, I 'll romance someone else eventually! *romances Garrus again*".
I never liked Liara, until ME3. She's super awesome in ME3. <.< Really tempted to romance her with Robert(my most recent dude). MAN they need to fix the endings so I can enjoy these games again, I miss them.
Which one? I've heard about different ones.
Basically they're like "PR PR PR We did good" yes?
*sigh* Seriously, they need to either admit they messed up, or heck, say "We like the endings we made but the fans want more, so we're giving it to them". All I want is DLC to fix the endings. I don't care about Bioware at all anymore. They blew it and I just want to be done listening to them.
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but it's really hard not to romance Garrus. especially since I know that it's the only romance for femShep that will get a reward in ME3. Thane's romance is just so sad (and my friend was complaining that none of the crew members seemed to noticed that her Shep just lost her partner...). and Jacob... that was actually really shocking. Shep was gone for just 6 months and he already found someone else? So not it will be even harder to romance anyone but Garrus. *laugh*
But the next of my femShep might get a Liara romance from ME1 and then not flirt with anyone else.
I was talking about this statement: [link]
I fear that they will stay quite from some more time. Which is really stupid because even a "we love out endings and we won't change them" statement would be good. because keeping quite just makes them look more and more like a**holes, and will make the fans even more angry. *sigh*
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Thane's romance I want to see, I romanced him with one of mine. It's sad, but I'm sure the scene itself will be nice.
That second part sucks though, somebody should say something to you about it. Thanks a lot "friends". <.<
Oh man, Jacobmancers got majorly shafted. Not cool. I didn't even like the guy and I feel bad about it. It's super harsh. <.< And again, nobody says to you "Sorry Shepard, your boyfriend turned out to be a douche". :/
Garrus, why u so faithful and awesome?
So be it, let 'em make us more angry. If they think silence will make us go away they are dead wrong. We'll just have to show them that we mean business. (<.< Wow, speaking of anger, that brought it out in me. It's working! Lol)
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my friend said the scene was pretty much like the non-romance one. which would be really sad. for me the Thane romance was something really deep, and they should end it like that.
and yes, the whole Jacob thing. he never was one of my favourites, actually the whole "but the priiiize" thing was scary as hell, but I kind of liked him as a friend. he seemed really honest and nice, and then making him cheat in Shepard just seems.. out of character. and I'm pretty sure they could have simply dropped that part when having a Shepard that romanced him.
Garrus ist just simply amazing. even though my sister keeps pointing out that he's ugly (which he kind of is. I can't lie about that because when I first saw a picture of him, that was exactly what I though as well), but he is all bout personality, and his personality is simply amazing.
okay, so now we will have to wait till April to get some informations? (I think that's what the co-founder said) *sigh*
my sister (I'm visiting her at the moment, so we talk a lot right now) thinks we're overreacting a little bit... but then she never played Mass Effect, and doesn't really understand that this ending is destroying so much, and not even with good reasons... and we can't just let that happen.
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Aww, it's not different? Well that's disappointing.
Yeah, the road not taken and all that right? Woudn't have been hard to just remove any dialogue about Brynn and him.
Lol. I got my sister to play these games because of Garrus. She likes the way he looks, and his voice kills her. Though when she was first playing ME1 my mom apparently came in(I wasn't there) while she was playing, saw Garrus and said "My, he's a rather homely fellow isn't he?". Oh mom. XD
Supposedly. Better be good news.
I know what that's like. My sister and I tried talking to our oldest sister about it when she visited last week, and she just looked at us and was like "It's a game. Get a life". She doesn't get it, lol. My brother hasn't played the games either but he gets it, somewhat. He thinks we have the right to complain and demand better endings.
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my friend said it's nearly the same.. probably one different sentence, and one gets a letter from Thane (which you apparently could already read when you did the Shadow Broker while being in a relationship with Thane). It really looks like BW simply got lazy with the ME2 romances. I'm really disappointed that you can't have them bakc as squad members as well. since I never played ME1 I'm really attached to the ME2 characters.
My sister made jokes about me being the type of girl who's more into the character of a boy than the looks, since Garrus doesn't actually look good (okay.. nowadays I think he's damn sexy, but I get where she's coming from, because I was like that too), and I always tell her that he has an amazing character..
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Yeah, they did. And they didn't introduce any new options in ME3 which frankly surprised me. "New" players could only have Kaidan/Ash or Liara. So 2 options. That BLOWS.
Nothing wrong with caring more about character than looks, shows you're not shallow. And Garrus IS super sexy in reality soooooo...Lol.
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well they also could get Traynor or Cortez, if they had no other romance.
I just wished they had put more effort into all the romances.
and yep.. Garrus is damn SEXY! my sister just can't see it. I don't mind.
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Those two don't count imo. They're not "full" romances. Yeah, especially ME2 ones. Garrus and Tali got off okay I guess, but like Thane? Jacob? Harsh man.
Lol. Garrus is da man, regardless of who Shepard is romancing.
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I actually like the Cortez romance.. and the Traynor one is cute too.. but I agree, they don't count for the "real romances" for me as well. and the Jacob romance thingy is still pissing me off.. and I'm not even into romancing Jacob, but he sounded really faithful and sweet in ME2... and then BW makes an ass out of him...
and the Thane romance.. yes, he was already sick in ME2, es, we kind of knew he would die. still, they could have make some more dates before killing him off.
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Yeah they really did a 180 on Jacob's personality. Not cool BW, not cool. :/
Thane got the better deal when compared to Jacob. He might die, but at least we get a really moving death scene.
Jacob gets a really awkward, annoying "Yeah I've been unfaithful but that's cool right?" scene. Ugh.
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I still need to see the "I romanced you Jacob, and then you made a baby with someone else" scene.. but somehow I can't bring myself to look for a vid of it. I just feel so damn uncomfortable with just thinking of that scene. but having seen the Jacob mission without being in a reΓΆationship with him: they could easily ignored that for the romance version. it's not like Brynn looks pregnant, or that they are talking about their relationship non stop..
BW, I'm very disappointed in you.. *sigh*
And, yes, Thane at least got a very good death, not the "slow and boring in a hospital one", but the "yay I'm deadly sick, but I still kick this assassin's ass, and just imagine what I'd had done to him if I wasn't that sick"... though I still think, being this fit... Thane so could have joined my crew. if only to make it less sad to pass by the Life Support.
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Yeah I watched that. It's just.....awkward. And uncomfortable. <.<
Would've been really nice if for the romance at least he'd come along, just to support you personally, even if he didn't go on missions.
If he's dieing that soon anyway, I'd think he'd want to spend his time with you, not in some hospital. :/
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well.. what else could such a talk be? I mean he's telling Shep that he wasn't willing to wait for her. I really don't know if my friend and I will import Bella Shepard, the one with the Jacob romance. I just don't want to.
With the Thane romance I jsut think it's really mean that you can walk into the Life Support all the time, but no one's there. so you end up remembering him sitting there, which gets even worse with him being dead.
and I agree with you, I'm sure he would have prefered spending his final days with Shepard. He could have brought his son along, and it's not like the Normandy medical crew can't take care of his treatment as well. Dr. Chakwas is really good at what she's doing.
But then again I think ME3 has so many lame excuses for the ME2 squads to not join you. Why couldn't Grunt stay with us? His team was mostly dead after all, and I'm sure he wouldn't have minded fighting with Shep again (plus I'm really missing a Krogan squad mate...)
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Yeah, would be kinda awful to play that through knowing what's coming(though not worse than playing it NOT KNOWING). <.<
Please don't talk about empty life support, you're hurting me. :iconcryforverplz:
Oh man yaeh. Imo only Jack, Jacob(gah!), and possibly Miranda have good reasons for not being with you. The rest of you guys, what the heck?! And Zaeed and Kasumi? Why is Zaeed just sitting around on the Citadel when he could be sitting around on my ship?! Duuuude, get your butt up here! (Sorry, Zaeed is like my uncle and it annoys me he's not there.....)
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well... bella shepard is a really, REALLY faithful person. she would never ever betray someone. she had no romance in ME1, so we didn't have to make her cheat on anyone when being with Jacob. and then having Jacob cheat on her... that's just sooooo aweful. (and since we called her Bella, because of Bella Swan, I imagine she would kill herself, because that would break her heart, so there is actually no way she will make it to the end of ME3... *sigh*)
yep, Zaeed and Kasumi could so have joined the crew, Grunt as well... I mean they managed to get Tali back to the crew, and she probably had more reason to not come back than Zaeed or Kasumi...
of course these two were only DLCs... (and I'm not even a Zaeed fan, because I hate his loyalty mission), but still... why so little love for the ME2 characters? Samara had no really good reason to stay away. Not sure where she's fighting, but she could have come with as well. after all, the Normandy is pretty much for the shit happens, and she would have found lots and lots of injustice, I'm sure about that. and I won't even start talking about Morinth... this went the wrong way too.. >__<
oh noes... so many missed opportunities. it's really painful!
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Dang. That really is the pits. Couldn't have set it up to be more depressing if you'd tried.
Well, I guess it's better some Sheps never reach that point. <.<
Agh! Tell me about it! Garrus and Tali are actually doing other things, but they got to come back cause they're fan favorites. Not that I want them gone, by no means! But would've been really nice to spread that love around.
Yeah, Samara should totally have been with you.....*snicker* Just thought of something. Would it be considered an injustice for the Alliance to hold Shepard when they weren't really mad at him/her for the Batarian thing? Would she have had to go off on the whole Alliance upper leadership? Eeep.
I never kept Morinth, what happens if you do?
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I'm glad that Garrus und Tali are back... but I would have been so much happier if I got at least some of the others back as well. (especially since I only play ME2, so I have hardly to know connection to the ME1 characters... *sigh)
I think holding Shepard was kind of an injustice, but then again he went there on his free will, hoping that they would finally listen to him (he's so naive... cute). so it probably isn't enough of an injustice for her to act on.
Morinth turns into a Banshee. like you fight a banshee and if you're not too busy killing her (because banshees suck and need to be killed very quickly), you might see that this one is called "Morinth". I don't know why they didn't let her help her sisters. I think you can find some letters at Liara's terminal that she sent her sisters, and I'm sure she really cares for them, so why not have her help her sisters? *sigh*
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You never played ME1? Ahh, it's the best story wise. ME2 is the most fun gameplay wise but, yeah, ME1 has the tightest story. Should play it sometime, if you can stomach it after ME3.
True. Just a funny idea. Still weird that Samara wouldn't be there.
Turned into a Banshee. That's harsh. Maybe there is a worse fate for a character than being Jacob afterall. Poor Morinth. I never kept her cause she was a crazy killer, but I always felt bad for her. Her life was always gonna suck regardless of what she did or did not do.
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well.. I watched my friend play it with "my" Shepard. the problem was, that I wasn't really good with shooting games. I take forever to aim and all that. and I had just started playing Dragon Age, so playing on the computer was really new too me as well (I still suck at running with the "wasd" keys). but I really wanted to romance Garrus, so my friend said she would play a character that was all mine. I'm thinking about getting me ME1 one day, and play it myself, since I got better after a while. BUt I doubt that I will ever get ME3... (I hate husks or huskslike enemies. they scar the shit out of me >__< and the game has too many issues like the ending and the "need to play multiplayer for all the endings", so right now I just don't see that game ever be mine).
Yep, I feel sorry for Morinth, especially because it's easy to miss. she is just another enemy.
but yep, I always stick with Samara as well. I don't really like her, and her code (especially the code), but at least she's more honest about her killing and all that, and doesn't just do it for the fun of it.
actually all my ME2 Sheps are pretty much the same with their decisions. but I don't want to make any desicions I don't like just to have "made them all". I watch youtube videos for that
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ME1 is totally worth it. I regret buying my collector's edition of ME3. Wasted monies. Unless they fix the endings I wouldn't recommend wasting your money.
The multiplayer thing cheeses me off so much! They explicitly said it wasn't required. Grrr. I cheated to get my war assets up. I'm not playing multiplayer for them.
Samara isn't my favorite character by any means. She's interesting, but meh. Sad story tho. Poor dearie.
I know what you mean. I tend to make all the same decisions as well. I say I have renegade Sheps, but that's not true. I just have Sheps who took a few Ren options before ultimately making Para decisions. Lol.
Why play in a way that's not fun for you right?
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Me1 is also not that expensive anymore. Unfortunately I still won't have the money this month, but hopefully next month.
and that is so my plan, with ME3, they need to fix the ending, but above all they need to fix the MP thingy for me. I can ignore the ending, especially since I really like the indoctrination theory, and if BW/EA doesn't managed to come up with something better, I will ignore anything that tells me IT isn't true, and pretend the aweful pick a colour ending never happened.
But I need to be able to get all the endings (especially the breathing ending) without being forced into MP. I know that I will suck there. I normally play on "easy" but MP is - of course - in "normal" mode. So all the enemies will kill me by simply looking at me, which then will end in no one wanting to have me on their team, so I won't be able to play at all. Or having to play MP all by myself, but then MP doesn't make sense, because than I can simply play SP.
well, I've heard that some players who cheated with their war assets (sooooo understandable) got problem with Origin, or something like that.
(uh, and I "love" the people who keep telling that "you don't have to play MP, you can always download the mobile app" and totally ignore that a) BW promised that we won't have to play MP and b) not everyone F**KING owns an iphone device. >___<)
I tend to make mostly all the interrupts, paragon and renegade alike, simple because I have a lot of fun with them. the maleShep I play at the moment is a little bit more renegade so I don't have some of the paragon talking options. which was good, because this way I was forced to actually take the renegade ones, which was fun too. (he actually got renegade because I wanted him to take that option with Morinth, but I have to admit, I cheated a little bit with my points there...
but yep, I think the most important thing about a game is that it should be fun, and if being the nice guy is more enjoyed... well I'm totally fine with that *laugh*
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no problem. I've been pretty busy myself.
but yes, I actually bought ME1 now. But I haven't opened it yet, or played for that matter. Just didn't felt like it (I started playing Dragon Age II again instead).
But I finished ME2 with me more renegade male Shep. Now I started a new femShep, who will cheat on Liara with Thane. *muahahaha*
I still don't know what to think of the whole ME3 MP thing. It seems to be fun, but I have to admit it's a little bit annoying that beside of the EC DLC all the other extras came for MP. If they at least made it possible to import the weapons into the SP. that would be nice. *shrug*
And now that I've heard that when you collect too many credits in MP they will ban you from playing, because apparently EA isn't aware that you can get that many credits without cheating, by simply being patient and collecting them, so in their eyes, everyone with too many credits has been cheating and needs to be banned. >__< EA reached another low.
I'm mostly good too. Though there are some renegade interruptes just have to take. Like the Mordin loyalty mission, with the stupid Krogan that doesn't shut up? a) the blinking renegade sign is there for sooo long. it makes it hard not to click it. b) when ever someone is talking for ages (like the shadow broker for example) I just WISHED I could simply shoot them. Why all the waiting? It would make things so much better. And that scene with the Krogan finally lets me kill someone for talking too much.
But even my renegade Shep could never hit Mordin. I'm just not bad enough for that.
Well.. when you pick the Destroy ending... it's kind of like the renegade ending.. so... you're a bad bad person for picking that option.
But yes, it would be really nice if things actually had a bigger impact on the ending. Or the story as a whole. Like Kasumi's secret? I mean the info she got from her dead boyfriend? The one that will ruin the Alliance? I can't really recall my friend saying anything about that happening. And nearly all of her Sheps let Kasumi keep the memory (my friend used to say "I will deal with the consequences in ME3"... well...)
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Sorry I've been silent so long!
Were you able to get ME1 yet?
So now that the Extended Cut is out, what do you think of it? Have you played it yet?
I went in wit my sis on a Collector's edition of ME3, but it could only be installed on one computer, so I actually downloaded another copy. XP I can't play MP ever that way, but I can also cheat on my war assets without worrying about Origin. Sooo that's what I've done.
Yeah, whatever floats peoples boats. I enjoy some parts of renegade, I just REALLY love being all goody goody. Lol.
Of course it doesn't really matter for the ending but.....Ehe!
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We deserve better than this crap!
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My Shepard lived but I spend alot of time playing in multiplayer (I play 360) you have to get you battle readiness wwwaaayyy up for your Shepard to live though. Bioware even said that multiplayer would affect the outcome of single player.
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They said that multiplayer would not be required to get the best ending. As far as I know, that is false. Regardless, the "best" ending still has Shepard stranded alone on a strange planet, likely to die fro his wounds since there are no med supplies, or starve.
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Well you did live. Surviving itself is one giant plot hole since your synthetics were supposed to shut off. Also no ships would be able to travel to you without the relays. All the ships are gathered up into one star cluster. Good luck getting the different dna aliens to live or anybody at all. Your friends are separated from you. And some team mates somehow magically got to the ship when they should've been dead. So yeah. You lived. But you're dying alone in rubble.
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yeah, but bioware said that is not STRICTLY needed in order to survive. apparently that's not true.
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I agree with this!! They told as that our choices we make in every game in the end will have some meaning. THEN WHERE IT IS?!!!
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I agree, but have little hope that we'll be getting anything that will change the endings, nor that we'll get any kind of post-ending DLC.
BioWare is not the company I once knew who but out great games like Neverwinter Nights or Baldur's Gate, they've become another money-printer for EA, that's it.
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