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SPOILERS for ME3The endings for ME3 are unimaginably awful. They retroactively sour the whole franchise.
They are bad, stupid, and nonsensical.
BUT the series can be salvaged. All they need to do is release a DLC with more endings, good endings. They don't need to ditch the ones they have, just add some more satisfying ones.
Only 3 things are needed to make this okay.
1. Shepard lives/if their LI lived they are together at the end.
2. The Mass Relays are intact. Nobody is stranded years from home.
3. The Reapers are destroyed/sent away for XK years.
I play games to escape reality. To live a life that I could never experience here, to do things I could never do, to accomplish things I could never achieve. I do not play games to watch a character I have poured hours into playing and tons of emotional investment into fail and die. This will not stand.
If you agree please visit these groups/polls/etc and let your voice be heard.
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EDIT: If you want to use this image for any reason in support of our cause feel free. Credit would be nice but I care more about spreading the word.
EDIT 2: Due to how much attention this is getting when I try to respond to all the comments AND thank people for faving, I end up getting frozen for a while for "spamming". So I'm sorry that for the moment I cannot thank you all for faving, but I do really appreciate it! Hold The Line!
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Hope is all I have right now. I won't give it up until Bioware comes out and says a flat "No". If they do that I will be canceling my sub to SW:TOR and anytime in the future I have the opportunity I will be encouraging others to boycott their products. They don't deserve to stand as a company if they don't care about their fans anymore.
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Truer words have were never spoken.
I also have a flicker of hope about this, but it's not much I have to say.
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I agree. The endings are horrible, expecially the one i got. >:/ Why the heck is the normandy anywhere near that stinking relay anyway?
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i couldn't disagree more, always knew he/she wasn't walking away. it's not as epic if everything is happy and perfect, it's ment to have weight and make you think before you deside.
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That's fine, but it should have been a choice. The player should have been able to choose to either have the sort of ending you described or have the happy ending others desire. Instead, certain choices are forced upon us. That's one of the reasons people are so upset about it all.
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the intire point of mass effect was always the choses won't be easy and you won't always have a happy endding and the ending i did I thought it was pertty happy.
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But at least there was still choices. And as I said, it is fine to have those sort of endings if those are the endings you want and choose. However, it should not be forced on a player, especially in a series about choices. You may not always get a happy ending, but that doesn't mean you can't still strive for it and achieve it. Even in a dark fantasy like Dragon Age, that choice was still available.
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while I do agree that endding seems limited I did sit there for some time picking my path and was so temped to walk into the light (havn't tryed the others so no spoilers plz)
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I've only done one ending. I chose the middle option. I know what the others are like and still find them unsatisfactory. But, for now, it would seem we have to wait and see what BioWare is going to do.
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I believe it was a effort to just end the seires, they didn't want ME to become halo (halo being the perfect example of going to far with an idea) while I believe they are holding something back, something I found hinted in some of the story throughout all 3 games, I'm not sure if it's anything or just me being hopeful, buttt it's what i thought the final endding would be. thing thing I want to really know is, from what cicle was the cannon that killed the reaper in ME2 and is something we should be keeping an eye out for just like the silver orbs, (in one and two) they seemed too hiden to be nothing. but the only true disapointment in my books, was that we didn't get to kill the first reaper, or even talk to him.
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From what my Halo fanboy mate has told me (apart from stuff like Reach) that the games are based on the books, so there's another 2 game sto go or something.
Personally I can't stand Halo, ME is so much better!
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the halo books were writen after the game... by about 3 years.
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They have already said that they plan on continuing the Mass Effect series. ME3 was just the end of Shepard's story.
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How can they continue the series in any form fans would recognize if that shit ending remains canon?
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I don't know. They say they have plans. Some fans speculate a DLC or expansion of some sort. Right now, the most people can do is wait and see. The fans have said their bit, now we have to see if BioWare has more of a reply than "we have plans."
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i think an MMO would be really good, or even an RTS
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They already have MP for ME3. I don't think they will approach an MMO for ME just yet.
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i think it's the perfect setting for it tho
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And many would agree. However, since they just released an MP, I don't think they will be releasing an MMO for sometime. They also just released The Old Republic. They will probably want to wait till they get more feedback on that as well.
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i think they'll do whatever EA tell them at this point, it'd make money and they proved they could do it with SWTOR
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They might eventually, yes, but not in the immediate future. Maybe... ten to fifteen years down the road. They just released SW:ToR and I imagine that they will want to focus on those servers for a long while before trying a different project.
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I don't mind the game having a "heavy" ending, but I think it's made clear by the community reaction that we also want a happy one.
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sorry not to reply to your comment directly, but my other reply covers it
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We all agreed that we'd be okay with Shepard dying- IF their sacrifice MEANT something, not that galactic society would still be completely frakked anyway because the mass relays are gone.
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I really want an ending where Shepard lives personally, but that s/he died without any good coming from it just feels like someone punched me in the gut. I haven't felt right since I found out. The only thing keeping me going is the amazing response of the fans. Going on the facebook page for Retake ME3 and reading the BSN sympathy threads etc gives me hope that we'll get a DLC to fix this.
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Games are supposed to be fun and rewarding, not depress the shit out of you
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it's not depressing, it's meant to be a hard and meaningful, and if you read into it a little more after the credits you may be surprized
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i wasn't surprized, i was left feeling like i just wasted 5 years of my life
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that little scene after credits heavily implied that Shepard did in fact fail. oh the reapers were gone. but so was the galactic community. since generations later with Shepard attaining legendary status, they are talking about going back to the stars.... some day. so we can safely assume that all those forces Shepard gathered? got stranded in Sol system. saved Wrex and cured Genophage? doesn't matter, Wrex is stuck on earth while Eve is trying to hold down what's left of the fort. brokered peace between quarians and Geth and got Ranoch back? doesn't matter, since they are all stuck on the other side of the galaxy and if you went with destroy ending? Geth are all dead anyways. Everything you did, every choice you made - nullified for the sake of what? hell, it nullifies everything you know from ME1 and2. the need for keepers, the need for Sovereign to get to the Citadel directly, entirety of arrival... both the ending and that little scene with googled image background are bull.
and please don't tell people if something isn't depressing. it may not have depressed you, but it did plenty of others. me included.
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I would assume that somebody stayed behind. I mean, Quarians do have Rannoch still, tho the majority of their military fleet is stranded in the Sol system.
Same for the other species.
However, I gotta agree with the sentiment.
The ending was bitter and totally felt like getting a punch in the stomach.
I was looking forward to win a war so that things could finally get back to normal. Instead, even if I avoided extintion, I still destroyed an entire civilization. Not calling it a shitty ending, but can't say I'm really happy with it either.
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the more I think about the implication of the ending, the worse it becomes :/ I really hope that bioware fixes it. not like there is no precedent either. they did with Neverwinter nights 2. and recently, Bethesda did with Fallout 3 and Broken Steel DLC. right now though, I cannot even bring myself to play any of the 3 games.
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that's an ending, but thats looking at the small picture, so a few of the main characters are stuck on earth the races as a whole get to evole as they were meant too. the main group still have the normady and are on a world which looks like a paradice. admitadly some repairs needed but (in my game at least) they have the best people possible to repair it. you were never going to save everyone, there had to be some lose or it's to much of a fairy tail, and while i'd rather another race die, the geth were the best choice. and how did it take away from the first two games? if the reapers had started with the citadel the curiclbe would be usless because the reapers would have had time to fix whatever the prothians did to it, and game over. the game didn't follow the same path I thought it did, but they had to go all or nothing with it, if shepard had lived EA would have whored out the idea for all it's worth and we'd have another halo with mass effect 4 being a pointless tag on. and having saved the more advanced races they may be able to get their own version of the relays working. I have only finished thee game once, (as I'd guess most have) I took the right(as in direction) path and started shooting, for all i know the left path may have saved everyone because that's what my charcter believed in. although I felt the middle path would have been the "true" ending, as the little flash was shepard. I'm not the kind of player to save before the ending to get the differnt clips I'd rather play it 3 (if not more) times, I'm also conviced that their is more then 3 enddings. I believe the "human" reaper in ME2 was a key point as the humans rallyed everyone, if the "human" reaper was finished it would have human insight and know it was coming, and as for ME1 if sovereign wasn't stoped it was GG right there and then. mass effect followed the rout it was always going too, the ending was a good twist and I thought the catalyst was going to be a human life (or something to the effect) would would have made useing the weapon iffy. but the main point of the ME3 ending is, that it is a true endding, that's just open enough to hint at further story could arise but will not be in the same time. and if nothing else, (spoiler if it matters at this point) we got to see tali's face.
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short answer? bullshit.
long answer? there are only 3 endings. that's it. you get nothing else. the only difference is - if you play multiplayer, mod your coalesced, or metagame the shit out of all 3 games - you get an extra short clip implying that Shepard survived f you pick a red ending. however - relays are still destroyed. races are still separated.
how does it take away from all the games? what was the point of the keeper signal if citadel is alive and the catalyst could just control it? what was the point of sovereign having to come in person to interface, if star child was already there? why were reapers heading towards alpha relay in arrival? what was the point of collectors at all? what exactly did any of my choices mean and how exactly did they make a difference in a final battle other then abstract number? you get to make no force allocation choices. you don't get to make any impact on leading the battle at all. its just... there.
and to reiterate. how many quarians are left on the homeworld? is it enough to rebuild and repopulate? remember, they converted lifeships into battleships as well. will Eve manage to control krogan clans alone, without Wrex? are there any able bodied males left on the homeworld at all? all the turian leaders are on earth. Palaven is completely decimated. as is Thessia. Sur'kesh is possibly one of the few homeworlds that got off relatively easy. Elcor and volus homeworlds are devastated as well. colonies used to be able to survive and thrive through trade... via mass relays. you know those things we destroyed?
as for the crew stuck on a garden planet paradise.. looks like uninhabited planet to me - looked completely untouched by the reapers. how many people are on that crew? did you see the state of the normandy when they cam out of it? without supplies, exactly how are they going to rebuild it? so they are going to try to populate the world now? all, what... 40 of them? and now consider Tali and Garrus being stuck on that planet. either they starve? or if it happens to be a dextro based planet - all the levo folks starve.
and that little clip at the end? makes it all worse. unless you go with "the ending was hallucination" theory. which makes a hell of a lot more sense then if it were real. except that's all we get. we don't get an actual conclusion.
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ok the "star child" as you called it said it was changed by the weapon it may have even been a program that controled the keepers.
the alpha relay? a backup plane if the citedal failed, and how they got here anyway back-up number 3, they would have bet one many small chances. it may not have even been the first time they needed to reset the keepers signel.as for the quarians, the commented the ships yes, but they most likly dumbed all but those needed to fly/man the guns of their homeworld. and without the relays cureing the korgan has no draw back, no chance at distorying other races, and they wouldn't have all gone to war that's just stupid even if it's the big bad reaper fight. as with earth (that they point out alot) the reapers seemingly work slow, only really hitting major cities, so every world they hit with less forces than they did earth will recover in time. and as for the crew of the normady, diffent food is an issue but they could find both, it's not immpossilbe for the two food sorces to be on a planet, one would just kill some but not all.
the little clip at the end shows that life goes on and it wasn't for nothing. the history is there, the possiblity is there, they have proff it's possible and going forward without the jump start of 500 years or so it goes back to how it's meant to be.
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were you even listening to the star child" star child ALWAYS controlled the reapers. until Shepard there was no one capable of out controlling the star child. its what he tells you. crucible changed his prerogative by creating more options aside from the usual 50 thousand year cycle. but it didn't unshackle him, it didn't make him smarter.
in ME1 - we are led to believe that reapers are independent. it is confirmed in ME2. they are users, not used. and then ME3 and the star child happens. it makes NO logical sense. you see the keepers, sovereign, alpha relay.. they all make sense, until you meet the starchild. and the ending at the end shows that life went on... somewehere... in a sort of preindustrial world, because going to the stars is now a legend >_>
I'm glad you are making the ending work for yourself, but you are in a very small minority of people. for majority of us, the endings do not work at all. no matter how we try to spin them
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I can try to help explain. Fans don't really want a "flowers and bunnies white picket fence" ending. But if a character has to sacrifice itself it usually has to mean something. Not "relays explode" or "No you don't get to see if your friends made it" "no you don't see if you mattered in your sacrifice. here's buzz aldrin!"
You could gather every resource possible. Have the best war assets. And pretty much get the exact same ending someone could've gotten if they farted through the game. It's not that they want a happier "omg the cute is giving me diabetes" ending. Just one that told us our choices mattered. Not "Pick your favorite color"
There's no explanation. The catalyst honestly comes out of nowhere and drops plot that hasn't even been hinted at in the other games. The original plot had to do with Dark Energy. And that's hinted at in 2. So as a story it makes more sense.
For 2 you could let people die. Or you could work your ass off and get rewarded for it. It's more that then I WANT HAPPY
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bioware wrote 9 enddings, everyone always seems to find the 3. but the dark energy was from the mass relays and the reapers themselves. the sun in number two could have been explaned better (as in at all) but they say it's all in there, and they also said at one point in making the game it wouldn't be compelet, (from ashes was meant to be full game as were at least 3 other projects that EA rushed to much so they couldn't fit in) the thing that still bugs me the most are the silver orbs. does anyone know what the silver orbs are? anyone?
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The endings all have the same basics in their ending.
Destroy for example: reapers are destroyed. so are the relays and geth/edi. The only difference is one ending will have everybody on earth killed. The other is just the reapers. And this is only effected by your war assets. Nothing major changes.
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the "locked" endings are something I'm hearing alot about, true enddings that we can't get to yet for some unknown reason, but they say they wrote 9.
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Nope.
Control: Shepard dies, Normandy crashes and you're now in control over the Reapers
Synthesis: Space Magic
Destroy: Already talked about that one.
War assets change slightly different things. But it all ends up in a "oooo look at that beam! quick what's your favorite color? Red green or blue?"
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more. Ranted all over the world about the endings we were forced to choose from. They promised us we'd have our own stories, not the best of a shitpile.
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