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Not sure if I've already talked about it, so sorry in advance if I'm repeating myself; for a long time I vastly preferred the original DB to both DBZ and GT, mostly because DBZ had horribly paced arcs due to usually mediocre to terrible filler injected everywhere along with already incredibly long fights that felt even longer due to constant reaction shots (thanks fudge for KAI), while GT was... Largely forgettable for me except for the Goku Jr special. I mean, the SSJ4 design is really cool, but Goku got hurt by falling buildings in that form IIRC.On the other hand, Frieza was by far my favourite character in DBZ, so I had this constant itch to draw something set in DB but with everyone's favourite space lizard.
Problem was, Frieza is kind of trigger happy when it comes to Saiyans, so yet another or those monkeys, plus in DB we're years before anyone on Earth could take him on and survive, let alone win. At that point it came to me - he can't do anything if he's unconscious, plus Goku & Bulma randomly being witness to a space pod doing an emergency landing is not that far-fetched in an originally comedy-oriented manga, there's already weirder stuff floating around in DB. The injuries were added later; as a matter of fact, the sketch has Frieza whole & without a speck of dirt on him. It was a modification I made on the fly while colouring the piece.
I'm frankly unsure of when in the timeline it could get place. Certainly not during the Pilaf Saga since Goku hadn't started training under Master Roshi yet, but Bulma's clothes were randomly lifted from a picture. It may be from the Red Ribbon Saga, maybe when Goku goes to West City as his radar was broken during the Muscle Tower arc? Though Goku has his tail here, which usually meets a quick end soon after popping up again... Whatever, it's not that important.
This was my first attempt at DB-style injuries & bleeding as well, though it doesn't actually reach DB level of goryness. It's not like Frieza got a hole drilled in his chest, he merely lost part of his tail - something he was already prone to do toward the end of the Namek Saga anyway.
Don't own anything here, everything goes to Akira Toriyama & Bird Studio.
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Nah, he'll be in a hospital in a world of hurt. It's when they give him a Senzu bean that everything goes to hell in a handbasket.
Luckily for Earth, Frieza has a bigger (space) fish to torture, so the planet is useful to him. For now. Then he discovers the Dragon Balls, and this is where I stopped writing because it was snowballing into a full story. Sadly, I currently don't have the time to write one.
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nice... keep going. i wanna know who the fish is
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I haven't decided yet. The main factor is that it has got to be somebody or something capable of sending Frieza running for his life. I can't use any material from Super because it would be overkill, Majin Buu is out because Frieza wouldn't have survived the encounter. Cooler would be an easy pick (he has motivation and power to beat a first form Frieza), but it feels like a clichΓ© choice.
That, however, was going to be material for the second act. The first part boiled down to Frieza taking over Earth and making it the capital planet of his new empire (so he ends up invested in its continuous existence at least). Goku & Co. try to stop him, but the direct approach is out as the guy can kill them with a glare or a breath.
Another idea that I was entertaining was that, once he discovers Shenron is not actually strong enough to give him the perfect immortality he craves (I'm not going to include anything Garlic Jr-related), he asks the dragon to summon the Ginyu Force on Earth. That way he regains his strongest squad and can have them train a new army from the ground up.
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sounds interesting
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Well, it's a nightmare to balance actually. I don't want it to be Frieza's one-man show, that would be boring.
In any case, I currently don't have the time for fanfics that are not one-shots/two-shots at best, so it's just wishful thinking...
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okay....
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They would all be beerus level by android saga. Frieza and Goku I picture training and kid goku would be as powerful as frieza in namiek saga. I see vegeta being just like piccolo and goku and frieza being rivals and they fuse instead of vegito. But I think cell would be alive to be a main fighter and he would absorb buu and babidy with his gang. But also the supreme Kai. He would probably be frieza's rival but he's ends up being the God of destruction. I picture he would be asked and once beerus is sleeping he absorb him and when he can whis but he wants to master his body. I feel like he would be more like beerus than how he is now and would repeat what beerus did but I can see black swooping with him or frieza. The tournament of power I can see cell seeing the future of the universes being destroyed and he has goku talk to zeno making the tournament happens and cell plans to overthrow lord zeno and so do frieza. But cell wants to make sure if his team lose he still wins so he send a cell Jr to take his place as he absorb all life in the other universes and he sends other cell Jr's to the other universes to do it so he can try to overpower zeno by absorbing them but he have them think they will do the God ritual which they do but cell wants as much power as he gets so he makes sure they all do it and than he makes his move.
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If your confused I'm saying they would be so op even master roshi would be God of destruction level. I would imagine frieza would train with everyone and would make them go to that level. Vegeta might be around I picture he would hate frieza but wouldn't let that stop him from being who he is now. I also think ssj would come in the android saga do to all the changes I picture vegeta going to take frieza's place in the namiek saga and he gets immortality. Cell would be the most powerful character and would live. I can see frieza being cocky and taking his time beating buu and buu absorb him because frieza didn't know about that. And I see cell absorbing buu and babidy with his gang and the supreme Kai but beerus is slowly dying but whis ask cell to take his place after beating cell because cell like super buu has a head ache and spits out a pure version of himself taking frieza's place and cell plays the role of beerus's because after whis explained how beerus seems to be dying cell explained that he's not dying I'm just not fused with the supreme Kai yet so the link between us needs to form than he will be ok. Whis ask him if he would like to train to take his place so this could never happen again. Cell accept and once he had the chance he absorb beerus in his sleep but his personality changed and he only wanted a rival someone who can keep up with him and the tournament of power happen and universe 7 stomps everyone and they wish for everyone in the erased universes to go to universe 7. Cell takes his time sending cell Jr's out to absorb the strongest beings and looking for a rival.Β
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IMO, that's kind of unlikely.
First of all, not all of them have the potential to reach such a level of power. Tien trained like a madman throughout DBZ and the most he could do againt Semi-Perfect Cell was to stall him with a barrage of Tri-Beam attacks, something that nearly killed him again (it certainly put him out of commission for a while). His performance in DBS has been rather lackluster so far, especially when his own recruitment episode for the ToP made a fool out of him - something he doesn't deserve, but the episode's long done and aired, so nothing to be done there.
True, Tien is just one character out of the entire DB cast, but let's also remember that, IIRC, only Gohan and Frieza have been stated to possess insane potential in Universe 7 (not sure how well Gohan's potential compares to Frieza's, since he doesn't like to fight and doesn't care to keep his skills sharp, so his strength is all over the place after the Cell Games), and neither of them seem to be on Beerus's level so far. Majin Buu, Cell, Android #17 and #18 are either magical constructs, artificial beings or artificially augmented, and basically none of them except Android #17 in DBS (Majin Buu was handed... Weirdly during the recruitment arc) bothered to train, so there's nothing certain to go on about their potential.
That said, this is projected a little bit too far in the future. This picture/AU takes place at some point after the 21st World Tournament but before the King Piccolo arc. Right now a good chunk of the cast (Vegeta, Gohan, Piccolo Jr, Android #17 & #18, Majin Buu... You get what I'm saying) is missing either because they're in space, they don't exist or are yet to be augmented, and the (second, since Frieza takes the cake without having to transform) strongest being on Earth is Popo who, DBZA memes aside, would lose to Raditz. Nobody on Earth can exert any sort of leverage on Frieza, and that's the main problem here.
Leaving out the good old amnesia plot, Frieza is⦠Not the most personable individual out there. Paranoia toward the Saiyan race aside, he's an egoistic turd who needs to be the top dog of the universe (so even if he entertains the idea of training anyone he wouldn't want them to surpass him. IMO he'd react negatively at Cell's equally inflated ego, since they'd lack the common ground of having Son Goku as enemy/opponent depending on how the story evolves. That's if Dr Gero even survives long enough to start planning his revenge, since the Red Ribbon Army is going to be destroyed no matter what), though he can appreciate powerful soldiers fighting on his orders. At this point of the timeline Goku is a weak monkey whom Frieza could at most use as a punching bag; Bulma would be far more valuable as she's already a verifiable genius.
The good news here is, Frieza is probably too pissed at whoever forced him to run away with what's left of his tail between his legs to think of killing Goku and/or Bulma. The bad news is that I can see him taking over the planet to try to restart his empire - he'd certainly go after the Dragon Balls the moment he knows they exist.
I could probably go further on since I technically didn't even start exploring a possible plot, but so far I can't really see any of that happening - again, in RoF Frieza immediately went back to Earth once he had achieved a new transformation without bothering to train that one too. I think he'd try to replicate that feat here too, except Bulma would have to reverse engineer his pod -since Earth lacks any sort of spacefaring technology- then see if there's any sort of coordinates still registered in the system that they could use, otherwise Frieza is pretty much grounded. Perhaps they could use a wish to get some sort of star map, it would be different from the usual "bring X people back to life" routine.
In short, there's plenty stuff that could send canon merrily to hell way before DBZ starts.
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Good point. I just saw how they all surprised there limits so many times in the show. And I thought that if someone like a average frieza solider can go from ginyu level to ultimate Gohan level telling on how Gohan said he's more powerful than me at my best. If krillen and the others would be young and would train with him they would get used to it and with senju beans they can just keep training surpassing there limits and keeping up. They heal there bodies and they are able to keep on breaking there limits.
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Power scaling in DBZ is rather convoluted, which is not helped by Toriyama constantly forgetting what he wrote and then writing by the seat of his pants. Power creep was constant and characters became more or less relevant in the span of an in-story day.
I mean, I see many people complaining about DBS pulling asspulls left and right to make characters important again, but let's not forget that Goku became strong enough to face the Ginyu Force in less than a week when his last big fight against Vegeta, who was much weaker than say, Recoome, had left him beaten bloody and would have left him paralyzed in a bed for a month if not for Senzu beans. Then, after recovering his body from Captain Ginyu, he underwent another Zenkai boost that casually had him strong enough to not die immediately to final form Frieza, and then there was the Super Saiyan transformation itself that kind of came out of nowhere (despite Vegeta hammering about the legend the whole bloody time). The Android/Cell Saga had constantly rotating villains and the Buu Saga is a huge mess. So yeah, the whole "can't get stronger, I'm at my limit" routine was stale long before DBZ had ended.
I take you're talking about Tagoma from series RoF? To be fair, he didn't actually get to Ultimate Gohan level, as Gohan in RoF had let his stregth rot away so badly he wasn't even sure he could go Super Saiyan anymore. He regained his Ultimate form during the Recruitment arc; had he been that strong in RoF he wouldn't have gotten gut-punched so easily by first form Frieza in the film/tortured nearly to death in the series.
Well, with Frieza around at the very least they wouldn't stop training during the time skip between DB and DBZ: Goku & Co. didn't grow or barely grew at all in those four years as, as far as they knew, Goku had become the strongest human on Earth. It was like Master Roshi had predicted back in the 21th World Tournament - they got to what they thought was the top and stopped improving.
Actually, there's also a difference in power scaling between DB and DBZ: Goku & Co. improved vastly slower than in DBZ, with Goku himself going from a power level of 10 (beginning of the story) to 360 (end of Piccolo Jr saga) in the span of 7 years. There's really no comparison to the downright colossal jumps in power that happen in DBZ. That's going to be a problem.
The part of training with Senzu beans⦠I don't find it that feasible; Senzu beans do take a while to grow and the cast is never supplied with great numbers (mostly because Yajirobe tends to eat most of them though...). DBZ also showed that training like a madman doesn't help unless you're training smart -hence Vegeta and Future!Trunks wasting another year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber and still ending up weaker than Goku and Gohan in the Cell arc.
That's not even covering the impressive unbalance of power between Frieza and everybody else on Earth. Goku & Co. would need to hit a minimum treshold of power first before training with the impossibly powerful alien dictator doesn't kill somebody within five minutes half an hour.
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Really good point. I guess they only ones able to get stronger by a huge amount are the saiyans and frieza. They might not gain as much power as super sense whis did say they could never train to be on the level of the God's. Well other than frieza which is odd. But yea I agree.
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It's more like Earthlings lack a way to get stronger fast(er): Saiyans have the Zenkai boost, Namekians can fuse together to create a stronger individual... Frieza is a one-of-a-kind freak of nature. I remember reading somewhere that Earthlings were once the only ones who could steadily improve without having to fear hitting some sort of hard cap, but after the Saiyans stole the spotlight it kinda fell by the side.
Well, in general mortals are not expected to grow strong enough to rival a god. Zamasu's growing psychosis was turned up to eleven after losing to a ningen, and almost everyone (GoDs included) were surprised Goku could tap into god KI during the preliminaries. Fighters like Goku, Vegeta, Frieza and Jiren (if he ever deigns to do anything...) are exceptions to the rule, not the norm -hence the vast majority of the other teams being made up of "cannon fodder" and/or gimmicky fighters and not Goku-level powerhouses.
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Yea isn't frieza's race a mutated version of it's kind. Idk where I heard that but I know someone said that's the case. Well uub could be the one earthling able to have the potential of the saiyans
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Frieza's family possesses some sort of mutation that makes them far stronger than the average member of their race, and IIRC it has been stated they're hybrids of some kind too. Frieza is still abnormally powerful even by those standard.
Goku Time aside, Uub should have a higher starter point/growth compared to other Earthlings. Doesn't look like he's taken seriously in any DB product though.
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Yea sense the mentioned him twice and goku promised to train him I think he soon will matter. Hopefully he becomes majuub
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