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Published: 2020-11-13 21:46:01 +0000 UTC; Views: 8023; Favourites: 95; Downloads: 27
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Another alternate future, combining multiple ideas:• Brexit goes with no deal, Scotland and Northern Ireland leave the UK and join the EU as independent countries with Ireland integrating Northern Ireland later
• Russia intervenes in Belarus and Ukraine, gaining important territories and establishing the Union State (which later invaded Kazakhstan and the Caucasus because of rising tensions)
• Turkey continuing their intervention in Syria and Iraq with campaigns against Kurds in the region. Turkey slides towards a militarist dictatorship with forced ties to Russia.
• Israel and Palestine finally settled their dispute and independent Palestine was created
• Serbia and Kosovo settle the independence issue by swapping multiple territories
• European Federation is proclaimed (Present day EU with minor changes, such as breakaway Catalonia and Padania with the Balkans being integrated)
• Ukraine joins the European Federation
• The remnants of the United Kingdom, Iceland, Norway and Switzerland start participating with the new federation on a closer basis
• Cyprus dispute is resolved by some deal similar to the Annan Plan
I tried imagining a functional democratic unified Europe with some countries being rather allied to it than being a part of it.
Some notable things on the map:
- The English Channel Tunnel is transformed/expanded to include a hyperloop system
- Ireland-Scotland Tunnel is constructed on the currently considered Kintyre Route
- Helsinki-Tallinn Tunnel is constructed for hyperloops
- Hyperloop network enters Turkey, but only the European part (which makes the whole thing complicated)
- The Channel Isles and the Isle of Man are not absorbed by the United Kingdom and remain part of the Crown dependencies
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matritum [2020-11-29 16:57:52 +0000 UTC]
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alligator83 [2020-11-14 16:49:18 +0000 UTC]
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alligator83 In reply to DoctorTR [2020-11-16 11:38:20 +0000 UTC]
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alligator83 In reply to DoctorTR [2020-11-16 16:02:52 +0000 UTC]
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Fjana In reply to DoctorTR [2020-11-16 21:38:43 +0000 UTC]
Although I highly disagree with your stance from my personal experience and interaction with Muslims, I know that I will probably not change your mind on this issue and I am pretty certain, that you will not change my mind on this issue either. And I am not claiming that I'm an expert on religion, but I have it as one of the educational subjects. Maybe a small note about the Dar Al Harb, it's not a regular thing you can expect in a war. This system was used only in history and by religious fundamentalists (such as was conversion to Christianity by conquistadors and European colonizers).
Also, small note about the beastly people. I have met about a dozen Muslims, none was radical. I know, that is there is somebody, who can change your mind, it's not going to be me and vice versa.
And as a small footnote (I assume you were hinting to it when you spoke about oppression), I do support Israeli independence, but I do believe, that some issues have to be solved by a compromise, a cooperation or by a dialogue (Jews and Muslims lived in many areas side by side for centuries and the current hate on both sides is a result of a UN fuckup of 1947 and I sincerely hope, that if they hold a peace for longer, new generations would challenge that status quo of disputes and tension and would come to solve solution that is simply not possible today)
I would finish my idea by this: the current Muslim radicalisation isn't caused by Islam by its nature, but because of the last century and how European and American Christian countries treated Arabs (colonization, brutal takedown of homegrown independence movements, Sykes-Picot, Afghan war, Iran coups and countercoops etc) and they use Islam as a unifying pretext. I do believe, that in the present day, the only real option that doesn't make things worse is to don't repeat the mistakes that were made in the previous century and after some time, when new generation comes to power, problems would hopefully calm down. I see your point of view there as well, doubling down and continuing with intervention and alienation is a option also and might bring results as well, but I feel, that far better options is to find a common ground with them, because they radicalise only because they have the need to step up against oppressors.
At least that is my point of view, feel free to have your own.
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Fjana In reply to alligator83 [2020-11-14 16:50:38 +0000 UTC]
I know, this is rather a wannabe-utopia than a realistic scenario. I can see Ukrainians later integrating down the line of they settle the issue with Russians, but not sooner
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sp3ctra8 [2020-11-13 23:15:18 +0000 UTC]
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alligator83 In reply to sp3ctra8 [2020-11-14 16:49:25 +0000 UTC]
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