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Published: 2018-06-20 10:16:49 +0000 UTC; Views: 6564; Favourites: 99; Downloads: 76
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Description In a future where hydrocarbons will be very expensive and therefore air traveling could not be affordable for the majority hyperloop can be a solution. Capsules traveling at 1200 km/h maximum through evacuated tubes could be successful. Here I made a map of a possible future where hyperloop connects all capitals and major cities in Europe.

EDIT: I'he added some missing cities. Thanks for the comments!
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spikedpsycho [2021-03-22 03:08:41 +0000 UTC]

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AvatarVyakara [2019-05-19 13:33:02 +0000 UTC]

Most ingenious indeed! But two questions for you:
1. What powers the system? Is the power shared by every country equally? If so, how was the infrastructure set up?
2. Was it necessary to alter the landscape of Europe much in order to get the hyperloop to run effectively through all the countries? Did towns need to be evacuated? Were there any old buildings that needed to be torn down?

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Strassenlaterne [2018-08-15 21:53:57 +0000 UTC]

What an awesome idea ^^ I'd love to travel by this thing

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SalesWorlds In reply to Strassenlaterne [2018-08-16 05:37:56 +0000 UTC]

It'd be awesome! Thank you!

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Strassenlaterne In reply to SalesWorlds [2018-08-17 01:21:54 +0000 UTC]

Yeah we only need a station in Zaporizhia XD

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matritum [2018-06-23 10:42:15 +0000 UTC]

I love this map! Excellent work! I'm skeptical about this technology but I'd like this map comes true.

Obviously, everybody can make suggestions about new lines. I propose Minsk/Kyiv and Krakow/Cluj-Napoca/Bucharest/Istanbul.

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SalesWorlds In reply to matritum [2018-06-23 10:57:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I like that everybody make suggestions, it's fun xD

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SoaringAven [2018-06-22 00:24:55 +0000 UTC]

Hmmm, no connection between Berlin, Prague and Bratislava? That's strange considering they're capitals, yet Prague is connected only to smaller cities. Also Prague and Bratislava are the capitals of a former united country and the second largest Czech city is between them.

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SalesWorlds In reply to SoaringAven [2018-06-22 07:38:44 +0000 UTC]

Updated! Thanks for you comment!

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SoaringAven In reply to SalesWorlds [2018-06-22 09:11:45 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Looks like you're getting a lot of feedback. Sorry for the extra work XD  Next up: Cluj and Bucharest should have a connection XD 

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SalesWorlds In reply to SoaringAven [2018-06-22 10:14:03 +0000 UTC]

No problem! I'll take that into account for the next update XD

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Arminius1871 [2018-06-21 08:36:22 +0000 UTC]

Excellent, Munich has a station!

I really hope this comes true. Maybe a connection from Frankfurt or Cologne to Hamburg or Bremen would be nice too.
Imo even Dresden deserves a station

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SalesWorlds In reply to Arminius1871 [2018-06-21 08:51:24 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! Of course Munich has a station! I even think Munich has the best hub, right in the core of Europe. In the next version I'll take your advice into account.

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Arminius1871 In reply to SalesWorlds [2018-06-21 14:26:45 +0000 UTC]

Great, I could imagine those hub cities will grow a lot too.

Did you hear about the chinese new silk road plan? Maybe they would connect somehow too.

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wendy-krieger [2018-06-21 07:06:50 +0000 UTC]

Were the Basquwa to seperate, that would split spain into two.  Poland is already split in two.


Dublin and Belfast could be an extension of the glasgow branch.


The long line from liverpool, could have went to manchester, newcastle and then edinborough.


Another route is the rhine valley, ie turin-bern-straussburg-luxembg-brussels

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SalesWorlds In reply to wendy-krieger [2018-06-21 08:01:43 +0000 UTC]

Thanks for the comment! I've taken into account some of your advices. 

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Psychologicaleffect [2018-06-21 06:20:09 +0000 UTC]

Given the map, I am surprised that Dublin, Belfast, Kaliningrad, Pristina and Skopje didn't make it to the hyperloop network.

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SalesWorlds In reply to Psychologicaleffect [2018-06-21 08:00:40 +0000 UTC]

Sure! I've added them.

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vladyslav-ai [2018-06-20 19:55:18 +0000 UTC]

Judging by the map, Odesa should be connected to the system.

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SalesWorlds In reply to vladyslav-ai [2018-06-21 08:00:13 +0000 UTC]

Added!

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Mobiyuz [2018-06-20 15:16:56 +0000 UTC]

I love seeing hypothetical maps. Even when there's almost zero chance of it happening, it's interesting concepts like this.

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SalesWorlds In reply to Mobiyuz [2018-06-20 16:39:31 +0000 UTC]

Thank you! I always like dreaming about hypothetical future scenarios.

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IllegalCatToss [2018-06-20 13:52:13 +0000 UTC]

Everyone knows that future technology will be powered by Jellied cats 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB5nzt…

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SalesWorlds In reply to IllegalCatToss [2018-06-20 14:06:26 +0000 UTC]

OMG! Poor cats! lol

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ThePrussianRussian [2018-06-20 13:40:00 +0000 UTC]

I guess by 2050 many of the crippling problems the Hyperloop has could be worked out. However, I also think that by 2050s, electroprops and hydrogen jets could pop up to save air travel.


The map looks really nice, and the table of travel times is a nice touch, too.

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GrantExploit In reply to ThePrussianRussian [2018-06-20 15:56:31 +0000 UTC]

(To both you and SalesWorlds ) You forgot one option: Nuclear turbojets and turboprops. But that won't happen, because people are cowards when it comes to anything nuclear.

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ThePrussianRussian In reply to GrantExploit [2018-06-20 15:59:54 +0000 UTC]

There's a reason for that, you know. Mechanical failure and/or pilot incompetence (I won't even touch on sabotage) could mean that active reactors could potentially fall out of the sky. We don't like that happening, obviously.


But nuclear energy in a stationary or naval application I completely agree with.

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GrantExploit In reply to ThePrussianRussian [2018-06-20 19:46:03 +0000 UTC]

Yes. However, Generation IV and V nuclear reactors, and all sane designs for aircraft and space-grade reactors, are negative-feedback, meaning they would naturally power down without active intervention. Also, in the January 1965 "Kiwi-TNT" test, a nuclear thermal rocket engine was intentionally put on meltdown, and the resulting explosion and effects were no worse than one of a chemical rocket. So a "worst case scenario" would be both spectacularly unlikely and not that bad.

For chemical air transport, a large amount of propellant must be stored and used up through the flight, with the now chemically-inert exhaust preferably being dumped to lighten the load. This "large amount" is especially compounded for hydrogen-powered vehicles, as although hydrogen has a very high specific energy, it has a low volumetric energy density. For electrical air transport, you are pretty much forced to carry around the heavy battery pack for the entire duration of the flight, unless you, I dunno, use them sequentially and parachute them down? Nuclear air transport requires no propellant, and the specific energy of the nuclear fuel is much higher than either the batteries or the chemical propellant, meaning much less can be carried. Imagine if you could replace pretty much all the tankage in a jumbo jet with living space...

There is no conceivable route for long-range non-chemical supersonic flight other than using nuclear power, that is unless lithium-fluorine battery technology somehow proves viable.

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ThePrussianRussian In reply to GrantExploit [2018-06-21 20:38:46 +0000 UTC]

That's neat! I've nothing against that, if that's true. But it seems there is trouble getting the word out, seeing as how even I've heard nothing about it.


However, one question: How would a nuclear turbine work?

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GrantExploit In reply to ThePrussianRussian [2018-06-22 05:11:54 +0000 UTC]

Well, most nuclear power plants are "nuclear turbines"—the reactor pile produces power in the form of heat energy, which is conducted to a working fluid, almost always water. This water becomes steam, which is used to spin a turbine connected to a generator to produce electrical power.

There are two ways to produce a nuclear turbine engine:

  • Separate working fluid: This was intended for use in the NB-36 project, which—at least in the demonstrator stage it reached—screamed how not to produce a nuclear aircraft, as its reactor was unshielded except for the cockpit, largely due to air-cooling requirements resulting from its idiotic placement. Anyway, to transfer power from the reactor to the 6 turboprops, they were to use a high temperature working fluid (they ruled steam wouldn't be efficient enough) cycled in a closed loop from the reactor to the turbines and back. This is similar to the steam turbines in ships and power plants and the reciprocating engines in steam locomotives, although some of those instead eject their separate working fluid after it is used.
  • Open working fluid: Instead of using a separate working fluid, air heated by the nuclear reactor directly can be used as a working fluid as is the case in a conventional turboprop. Also, this heated air can be directly used as reaction mass, as in the case of conventional turbojets.
  • Alternatively, a stored propellant can be heated and used as reaction mass, in a nuclear thermal rocket.

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    SalesWorlds In reply to ThePrussianRussian [2018-06-20 13:44:06 +0000 UTC]

    Thanks! We'll see. I hope to live long enough to see it.

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    ThePrussianRussian In reply to SalesWorlds [2018-06-20 13:54:32 +0000 UTC]

    Yeah, it'll be nice to see the world 50 years from now - preferably a non-irradiated one.


    EDIT: I just realised 2050 is only 32 years away now. Time flies.

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    procrastinating2much [2018-06-20 12:01:39 +0000 UTC]

    This is really well done! How did you work out the times for it all?

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    SalesWorlds In reply to procrastinating2much [2018-06-20 12:23:42 +0000 UTC]

    Thank you! I just measured the distances and give them a medium speed, faster for longer distances and slower for shorter. Probably not very accurate, but good enough for an approximation.

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    procrastinating2much In reply to SalesWorlds [2018-06-20 12:40:41 +0000 UTC]

    Looks really cool! Fantastic idea

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