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Published: 2018-07-16 11:20:34 +0000 UTC; Views: 775; Favourites: 36; Downloads: 0
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I do what I need to

What I have to

Well, you can try

To be civilized



But I’m gonna stay alive                   Stay Alive - Hidden Citizens

So I played a character in a game of Dark Heresy (a 40k roleplaying game) who got the vampiric addiction mutation part way through the campaign, but since I’d already played a vampire in a previous game I wanted to find a different monster he could become which would still make sense with the mechanical effects of the mutation and I decided to go with a wendigo. I did a bit of research, read the entries in the bestiaries I have and a few short stories about them until I felt I had a reasonably solid idea what differentiated them from other similar creatures and off I went. Jaspar was an amazing character to play, and I will probably write more about him and his family in future because I have so many feelings about them. This is a hypothetical final form, the monster he might eventually become if the curse runs its course. The city is Penumbra, the warp world where the game was set, a hell-city where anything you lose sight of is lost forever and where it is impossible to return to anywhere you have been.


But one interesting thing I noticed while doing the research was the fact that most artistic depictions of wendigos feature antlers and deer heads, but none of the written sources contain any mention of these features1. Looking into it further I found a few discussions on the topic, most of which referenced this reddit thread:

www.reddit.com/r/mythology/com…

Which suggests that the antlers and other deer-like features are as recent as 2001. I haven't looked into it much further, but it seems quite plausible to me.

However, knowing that some of the traits I associate with a monster (to the extent that I chose to include them in this painting) stem from a modern American filmmaker's interpretation of the monster rather than the extant culture in which it originated raises some interesting questions about what a monster really is, and the cultural meaning behind it. The short stories I read had a third interpretation of the wendigo, describing it as a powerful spirit of the wild2 3 rather than a cannibalistic deer monster, which is both closer and further away from the cursed as a result of their own actions nature of the original tales. I'm not going to get into a discussion about which of the modern interpretations is more right, monsters change over time and that's part of what I find so interesting about them, but I am going to talk about the cultural aspect both because it's interesting and because it is important to bear in mind when dealing with cross-cultural entities.

The first short story I read as part of my research was Algernon Blackwood's The Wendigo2. It was a good story and although the treatment of the native American character, both by the other characters and the narrator, was really poor and made me very uncomfortable the monster itself was great. Then I read August Derleth's Ithaqua3 which although the depiction of the wendigo was very similar culturally it was a different thing entirely. While the first story was one that was about a monster and was also racist, in the second the monster was very much part of the racism. And that's where things get complicated. Monsters are meant to be bad things, which makes them easy to use to dehumanise groups of people or reinforce fears of the other. I'm not saying that this was the intent of the stories, but that when writing about a thing that is a source of fear and also associated with a particular culture many things end up associating fear with the culture itself, which is not a good thing.

In spite of this I am usually inclined to see the spread of a monster beyond its native culture as a positive thing. When a monster spreads from one culture to another it will end up being interpreted differently, but the fact that it spread in the first place is evidence of commonality. The adoption of another culture's monster is evidence of a common fear, a shared need for that type of narrative. The wendigo means something to the Algonquian people who have a history of facing the threat of starvation, but the monster with a hunger it can never satisfy is also relevant to many others around the world. We need the cautionary tale of greed that only begets more greed, which is why I think the fact that the monster being used outside its original context is a good thing, as long as it is done with a degree of care and consideration for the culture that birthed it.

1: The Mythic Bestiary - Tony Allen; Giants, Monsters & Dragons - Carol Rose; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendigo

2: www.gutenberg.org/files/10897/…

3: www.free-ebooks.net/ebook/The-…

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Comments: 20

GannonThrall [2018-07-24 17:38:17 +0000 UTC]

i really like the teeth.

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Fluffysminion In reply to GannonThrall [2018-07-25 06:53:26 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I was quite pleased with how they came out given that I wasn't basing them on anything in specific, but I guess I have drawn enough monsters at this point that inventing tooth patterns is a thing I can do

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-24 02:15:14 +0000 UTC]

There's a lot of good online stories about Wendigos. Rather dubious to put it politely, but some that can make the monster tuly terrifying. As for the antlers and what-not, I recall hearing the developers of the Until Dawn asked some Algonquian elders about Wendigos having antlers and deer heads and were told no. Can't cite it though. I can tell you what popularized the depiction of Wendigos with those traits was a film maker, Larry Fessenden, who created a movie in 2001 with a 'modern' depiction of a Wendigo.
 With all that said, this is a very nice piece. The coloring of the city against the vividly colored transformed Jaspar makes for an excellent piece. 

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Fluffysminion In reply to TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-24 07:08:53 +0000 UTC]

So far I think the best wendigo story I've read was in the videogame Grim Dawn, there's a bit where you find a diary of someone who turned into one which I really enjoyed. I know there are a lot more out there, and with such a versatile monster I'm sure some of them have done really cool things with it.


That is interesting, I had read discussions about the antlers and other deer features originating with that film but I hadn't heard anything about them being confirmed absent in the original version. I can see why the design caught on though, as you can tell I was unable to resist adding them to this drawing.


Thanks! I actually took the time to mix the colours and test them on a bit of scrap paper before starting which I don't usually bother with, so it's good to hear it worked. I often fall into the trap of only thinking about what colour the things I'm painting actually are, rather than what colours would work in the painting. I was a bit unsure about making the background less saturated but I'm really pleased you think it's a good effect.

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT In reply to Fluffysminion [2018-07-24 11:21:12 +0000 UTC]

Ah, Grim Dawn....That was a fun game. Deliciously dark! Also Necromancer ftw. Also yeah, you could do a lot with Wendigo. Messing around with their basis in writing can be quite fun.
Apologies, I meant to say popularized the concept, not created. What the folklore paints isn’t really an original ‘design’ just an evil spirit possessing someone. Information on that is tragically rare. That aside, it’s an awesome design, rather unique in the aura it gives off. Goatmen lack that aura. Waaaay back in my gallery I drew a far less impressive Wendigo(not self advertising).
Your piece captures this whole scene extremely well, your efforts were far from in vain, complimentary colors are always tough, partly the reason I’m a minimalist in colors.

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Fluffysminion In reply to TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-24 12:34:40 +0000 UTC]

Yes! It's great. Solve the undead problem with more undead! What could go wrong?


Yeah, many creature descriptions are based on other creature descriptions and don't include their sources so it's had to tell which bits are artifacts of it being transmitted essential by word-of-mouth. Which reminds me I haven't included sources for this, which I should probably do.


I saw it! You went for more of the decayed/falling apart look which I really liked.


Thanks

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT In reply to Fluffysminion [2018-07-27 02:19:35 +0000 UTC]

You, good sir, are a man of intelligence! NO PROBLEMS CAN ARISE WITH MORE UNDEAD! ONLY MORE FUN!

Yeah, doesn't help the original Northern tribes never detailed about the physical description of the Wendigo. If you want any stories or summeries of stories, just holler. I have a few ol' books that detail such topics. Good shit. As for sources, yeah probably. 

I drew that, yeesh, about 4 years ago now? You should drop some sources and I should drop an updated version that rotboi. 

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Fluffysminion In reply to TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-27 14:35:30 +0000 UTC]

After all if anyone dies you can just bring them back! Nothing to worry about.


More on it being a thing that happens rather than an entity I guess. I'd be interested, I'm always up for reading more about monsters.


I'd be interested in seeing it!

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT In reply to Fluffysminion [2018-07-28 00:02:55 +0000 UTC]

Diablo 2 covered Necros slightly better in terms of how ridiculously large one's army could get, but I digress. 

Aight, I shall drop thee a note with a few resources that might interest you. Did ya want folklore stories or more cryptozoologist stuff? 

IT SHALL BE DONE
Eventually. 
Maybe. 

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Fluffysminion In reply to TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-28 07:09:58 +0000 UTC]

And ultimately the aim of that type of game is to get to a point when you can counter the hordes of monsters with your own horde of monsters.


Both are good!


I know that feel XD There are so many things hanging out on my "I should draw that" list that I will probably have forgotten half of them before I next sit down to draw something.

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT In reply to Fluffysminion [2018-07-28 08:37:34 +0000 UTC]

That's the point of the game? I thought it was to bravely hide behind my wall of minions, and have the elite ones do all the work. 


IT SHALL BE DONE. 

Oh god, we all do. "I'll draw this!" *Jump to 80 years later on future hospital bed, dying.* "I never drew that, did I?" 

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Fluffysminion In reply to TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-29 08:39:58 +0000 UTC]

If you're really brave then you leave the game unattended and hope your minions can handle it.



Whenever I go through old sketchbooks I find loads of notes of things I thought about drawing and it's rare that any of them ever actually happened.

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT In reply to Fluffysminion [2018-07-29 10:12:28 +0000 UTC]

I did that twice. First time I died, second time I came back to a level up, I had the Median XL mod which allows for you to convert enemies to minions. Came back to a frame rate drop and a screen full of undead.

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Fluffysminion In reply to TheProphetOfMEEEAT [2018-07-29 14:23:46 +0000 UTC]

UNLIMITED POWER

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TheProphetOfMEEEAT In reply to Fluffysminion [2018-07-30 00:10:36 +0000 UTC]

     

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NotPoisonousIvy [2018-07-16 11:21:10 +0000 UTC]

This looks amazing!

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acollins973 In reply to NotPoisonousIvy [2018-07-21 04:25:03 +0000 UTC]

A lot of research it seems went into this, sounds like it was probably entertaining too. Cool artwork and info

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Fluffysminion In reply to acollins973 [2018-07-22 08:37:25 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I find the history of monsters as interesting as the creatures themselves so I often get carried away when reading up on things. I'm glad you like the art and the description

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acollins973 In reply to acollins973 [2018-07-21 04:25:53 +0000 UTC]

Oops sorry, didn’t mean to post as a reply

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Fluffysminion In reply to NotPoisonousIvy [2018-07-16 12:24:42 +0000 UTC]

Thanks! I am really happy with how it turned out, I ended up redrawing most of it several times to get the anatomy right but I think it was worth it.

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