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Description oil on canvas june 2009
Thanks to Alexandra for the reference!!!
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ForlornExistence In reply to ??? [2009-10-02 05:40:00 +0000 UTC]

finally you get the point!!!
i paint realistic painting because i could..

when i am painting i am not thinking in "filipino" but in human way..

if you do not like my work , then don't waste your time and energy looking at my painting.

People are the worst judges.That's why they are called fans,short for fanatics..

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-02 08:00:05 +0000 UTC]

well i do get your point actually ivan...dont get me wrong bro, i didnt say i dont like your work, dont get over the fact that i criticized pghotorealism...and i never said anything wrong about your work? did i? if so then why get defensive, Ivan i admire your work, like i said before i said im just worried, its my worries, then you ask why im worried, if you didnt dare ask why i didnt like your choice of subject then we wouldnt end up talking this way...in painting as a human being your talking cognitively not in terms of the context we are talking, i am talking subject and style wise, i gave my points, and im honestly saying this to you in a constructive way...i have no angst against you, havent i said you manage to rise above mere photrealism? if no one will judge us and if you say people are the worst judge then no one can judge you? who will judge you then animals? rocks?...i think you should keep an open mind and not always defensive bout your work...it is not good as an artist to be contented he must learn to accept the critique good or bad

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-02 14:42:14 +0000 UTC]

ok peace be with you. i never called my self an artist.. kaya pacencia na kayo sa akin. di ako malalim mag isip pag dating sa art. at di rin mahalaga sa akin na tawaging artist. good luck on your art bro.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-03 03:19:30 +0000 UTC]

well wether you like it or not, wether you call yourself an artist or not you create art and tyhe creator of art obviously is an artist, ako i never said im an artist, kala nga ng iba dito im more of a writer philosopher, i prefer creator...i create...but in creating art the term will stick to me as an artist...there are many archetypes, you being unique in your works is a good example of the artist archetype...you dont need to think deep in creating art, your art speaks for you...your art is your voice, the screaming bitch fucked by your vituous imaginatiopn expressing the moans of your creative powers....

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-03 11:24:28 +0000 UTC]

ah talaga?

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-03 14:22:38 +0000 UTC]

stop playing ignorant games ivan, its irritating...donot provoke me again...if you dont like what i say about your art then you shouldnt have posted your art in DA at the first place...uulitin koba ulit, i am entitled to give comments, good or bad, dont let your ego overturn criticisms, this is the problem with most creators, some intend to glorify themselves mighty proud of their prodigious talents...please stop this nonsensical play of replies...im answering you as a person, if i reacted in a way that is poetically boring to you its your title to do so, but respect must be maintained...i respected you in my replies, i even PRAISED you...please stop this

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-04 07:44:40 +0000 UTC]

stop posting here?! hahaha!
when did you bought DA? and how much?
speaking of ego.. hahaha!you're so funny..cause it seems like your EGO is BIGGER than your head.
...and it sounds like you're the one who can't accept criticism... i am not even trying to criticize you.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-04 09:02:01 +0000 UTC]

i dont need to buy Da to actually stop me from making comments ikaw yata nag insecure ivan, kinomentohan kalang ang reaction mo parang sinisira ko yung art mo...please ivan stop this...if you dont like me to comment on your work fine, i'll leave you be para lang matigil tong adolescent behavior mo...kinakausap kita ng matino from y points of view pero pinipilosopo mo sagot sakin, anong kalaseng comeraderie yan...no wonder why Roberta Dans told me your not serious in your art

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-05 07:40:43 +0000 UTC]

bwahaha! roberta? you even said she's my ex.hahaHA!she's old enough to be my mother. you talk a lot dude.. talk is cheap and you prove it.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-05 08:48:13 +0000 UTC]

what proof do you neeed from me

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-04 08:56:40 +0000 UTC]

im tired of talking...please also restrain your fans from ignorantly accusing me...i thought i have peace with you...nevermind...if my ego is bigger than my head your head is smaller than i think it is that ego itself cannot fit in

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-05 07:35:37 +0000 UTC]

hahaha! i like that one!
boy you're the type who talks BIG and performs small.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-05 08:53:36 +0000 UTC]

and how about you, your the one who doesnt ven wanna talk about what you do, you that typical egoistic artist who proudly procliams hey im good, nobody messes with me, if you mess with me you are rude and you talk and do nothing...im not the kind of person nanagmamalaki if i dont know what i speak of...you speak because you think you know and because your contented with your talent...ivan grow up...if you cant accept a simple criticism you cant learn to accept that we are all humans and are prone to transformations...without criticism pano ka maggogrow up...i admit you are a genuis in the brush, i never mentioned anything bad about your work, didnt i praise you? stop na natin to wala tayong mapupuntahan pag ganito

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gromyko In reply to ??? [2009-10-01 03:46:08 +0000 UTC]

sharing the same symphaties, maybe ivan is attracted to "alien" subject...i dont mean this in a nationalistic sense, but the ends of means and the means of ends are roused when one is confined to portray manneristically the same choice of subject...but who cares about our ramblings, what is importtant is that ivan have the courage to stick on his ideals and hang on to it...great work diba?

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yatoy In reply to gromyko [2009-10-01 08:53:07 +0000 UTC]

his works are always great.. kung pwede ko lang i-clone ang kamay nya heheh.. im also attracted to aliens from outer space.. i mean science fiction stuffs . if he has the courage to stick to his ideals and i admire him for that.. maybe im not that courageous..my entire family will hate me forever if i follow my ideals..in some ways they already hate me for being me.

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gromyko In reply to yatoy [2009-10-01 11:33:55 +0000 UTC]

i couldnt agree more on that...skill wise ivan is great...rpoblem is we need to rise up above mere skill..it takes courage to rise or to transcend technique and cross over the other side...another problem is the ideals i see he is attached into...photorealism as a movement justifies itself by replicating the lens of the camera using the hand, i think it is more of a pop culture phenomena than strong true art movement...i have been debating many established artists here and abroad about the conceptuals of this faggot movement, america is to be blamed for this kind of consciousness...crab mentality dominated the minds of many of our greatest artists...i have been teaming up with select few artists from across this continent in hopes of redefining a new calling in the arts...i termed periscopical art in that respect to define the select few who have managed to rise up above postpostmodern art movements that included photorealism, a decadent art movement...i'll send you a link to the manifesto i wrote...problema kasi with photorealist the soul of the subject is lost and have been reduced to mere succeptible "copy"...of course anyone with adept skill can do such, but to imbue it with the human spirit transcendance is necessary...i myself have been struggling with my art, continued redefinition and experimentations have lead me to the ideals of the old masters, but i managed to infuse my philosophy in my works no matter what cost it takes me...did you know i debated even the writer philosopher of the now famous Visionary Art movement, Laurence Caruana...i also have been angst ridden with what have been happening to the philippine art scene...anyways going back to our little discussion here, i think Ivan is a great painter, the next step he needs to take is to transcent his technique towards a more personal and powerful vision, and i mean it with a positive confession...amen

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-02 06:25:01 +0000 UTC]

men,mahirap talaga pag puro salita, nang di alam ang pinagsasasabi. yung mga gawa ko sa DA ay para sa mga models ko na naging kaibigan ko sa DA. mag gawa kayo nang stock account nyo at ipipinta ko rin kayo. ganun lang ka simple yun.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-02 08:06:49 +0000 UTC]

p.s. i dont need to open a stock account just so someone will paint it...and i mean that non-offensively...peace man

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-02 14:48:19 +0000 UTC]

ah ok.. salamat nga pala sa lecture.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-03 03:15:08 +0000 UTC]

kaw naman...kaw kasi you provoked my philosophical spirit, sinaniban tuloy ako ni Plato, kulang nalang kutsara at tinidor kainan na...no worries, cenxa kana madaldal lang talaga ako...dyan na bagyo samin, dyan ba maulan? peace man

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neodhel In reply to gromyko [2009-10-15 01:20:30 +0000 UTC]

Dami mo sinasabi gromyko,...pero ang pont dito,.

PLEASE RESPECT!!
naka insulto ka.,

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gromyko In reply to neodhel [2009-10-15 02:30:41 +0000 UTC]

tapos na usapan dito brod...i publickly apologized

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neodhel In reply to gromyko [2009-10-15 03:09:02 +0000 UTC]

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-03 11:15:36 +0000 UTC]

provoke? hahaha!nevermind... patunayan mo nalang sa works mo ang mga sinasabi mo.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-03 14:19:03 +0000 UTC]

well fyi i just did and if you cant read symbolisms well then my works are not for your taste...i thought we end up the discussion, please ivan dont feel insultive it is not nice

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-02 08:04:40 +0000 UTC]

i know what i am saying ivan...i do not need to go to any fine arts school to know what i am saying or get a phd...i wouldnt be appointed as the administrator of an international organization if i do not know what i am saying much more if i donot know how to defend my own work and how to criticize positively...if my critiques to you are offensive you shouldnt have posted your work here...this is a community ivan, we are allowed to give our points good or bad...i think you are taking yatoy and my comments insuniatingly when in fact we just wanna say we appreciate your art very well...simple as that...lets grow up man, i have high looks upon your art, and i dont wanna ruin our friendship by such egoistic displays...let me repeat i know what i am saying, ask my friends and they will tell you that...

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-02 14:47:52 +0000 UTC]

hahaha!thanks for your time kabayan.

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-03 03:20:57 +0000 UTC]

i spend my time wisely, i never weaste time sa things that would have no value for me, my time is well spent in conversing with you and looking at your art is inspiring to me

peace kabayan!!!

g

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ForlornExistence In reply to gromyko [2009-10-03 11:19:58 +0000 UTC]

actually i think that you wasted your time already cause i do not even read your novel... it bores me. sorry...

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gromyko In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-10-03 14:17:13 +0000 UTC]

thats your problem then...cenxa na if i wrote you a novel...and i wated my time then its my lost not yours...are you asking for another round coz if you are im willing to waste another time

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MC-blue In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 15:39:44 +0000 UTC]

WOW !! I though it was a photo, really !!

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51stnereid In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 15:08:39 +0000 UTC]

Goodness, that's just...beautiful I was just thinking what a great photo it was and BAM XD Oils You manage them so well!

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semisantan In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 14:12:43 +0000 UTC]

kala ko po nung una letrato!lupet!

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angotti81 In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 13:02:38 +0000 UTC]

I thought that was a photo!!!
You never cease to amaze me! good work!

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Jumprabbit In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 12:26:50 +0000 UTC]

Top notch yet again

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ForlornExistence In reply to Jumprabbit [2009-09-30 13:08:29 +0000 UTC]

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BRipin In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 12:20:30 +0000 UTC]

Very Hopperesk yet warm and hopeful, not forlorn, like his. I like the texture you added, especially in the foreground on her shoulder, and the bright sky - works very well. Very harmonious composition. It is a beautiful work. Barrie

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ForlornExistence In reply to BRipin [2009-09-30 13:06:47 +0000 UTC]

Thanks Barrie.. i really appreciate your kind remarks!

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TheKrawling In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 12:18:14 +0000 UTC]

I love the green dress and how it doesn't become lost among all that green grass. Amazing, as usual.

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hanslijosephine In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 12:08:55 +0000 UTC]

WOW
at first thought it was a photo!
great job!

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rainbowandsaliva In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 11:52:06 +0000 UTC]

why so awesome?!

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ForlornExistence In reply to rainbowandsaliva [2009-09-30 12:09:28 +0000 UTC]

because..

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AinAtsk In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 11:51:15 +0000 UTC]

you are still the most amazing painter I have seen in here!

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surthur In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 10:35:54 +0000 UTC]

I bought myself some oils today. I will browse your insane gallery before I can finally swing the brush tomorrow <3 awesome idea. I just hope you wont abandon your fine academic paintings for entirely expressive art one day P;

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ForlornExistence In reply to surthur [2009-09-30 12:05:56 +0000 UTC]

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HypnoticIllusion In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 10:34:58 +0000 UTC]

Beautiful... as usual <3

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ForlornExistence In reply to HypnoticIllusion [2009-09-30 12:02:26 +0000 UTC]

Maja... thank you!

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HypnoticIllusion In reply to ForlornExistence [2009-09-30 12:54:01 +0000 UTC]

You are welcome. Your art always makes my day!

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j0rosa In reply to ??? [2009-09-30 10:28:59 +0000 UTC]

wow, master, bago to, a, love the textyure
Panong gawa, textured paste muna before the painitng or the reverse? Thanksss

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ForlornExistence In reply to j0rosa [2009-09-30 12:01:57 +0000 UTC]

Uy GG salamat! i do not use texture paste on this.it's just an oil paint..lots of it.

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