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fragilecraft In reply to from-time-to-time [2006-11-07 02:29:10 +0000 UTC]

alright. With glass, there's different COEs (Coefficients of Expansion) and with the different COEs sometimes it is such a large difference (like between bullseye glass and spruce pine batch, what most studios run) that it could, eventually, cause the piece to explode. However, with certain colours (I believe thats a reichenbach blue) the COEs are different enough that they cool down and heat up at different temperatures, and move differently, but similar enough that there won't really be negative effects. In this case the blue was slightly stiffer than the clear, so that when it was spun out the blue cooled down a bit faster and didn't spin out as much, so it formed the curves around it.

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from-time-to-time In reply to fragilecraft [2006-11-07 03:29:51 +0000 UTC]

i get it and i like it, wish i had the materials to do the same (or the cash to buy them)

oh, and i knew about coe's, but don't worry, you didn't insult my intelligence

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fragilecraft In reply to from-time-to-time [2006-11-07 03:31:47 +0000 UTC]

sorry, I've just had tons and tons of people going "COEs? What? Is that like, a drink or something? *drool from stupidity*" and its like GRRR, just, if you don't get it, at least ask it intelligently >.<

sorry ^_^

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from-time-to-time In reply to fragilecraft [2006-11-07 05:40:58 +0000 UTC]

its cool.

how long have you been blowing?

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fragilecraft In reply to from-time-to-time [2006-11-07 06:41:33 +0000 UTC]

started when I was 13 so...almost 4 years.

what about you?

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from-time-to-time In reply to fragilecraft [2006-11-07 18:06:09 +0000 UTC]

2 months, i finally got into the glass class at my college (hardest class to get into) and i'm so addicted, i blow at least 9 hours a week. you're really lucky to have had the opportunity to start so young, i'm jealous.

i'm messing around with getting some color into a risd ring right now, any advice? i've tried laying down a wrap into the ring before i marvered it shut but it didn't work so well. was thinking of torching some cane into the ring before i close it, or laying down a wrap first, then putting in the jack line and so on.

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fragilecraft In reply to from-time-to-time [2006-11-07 22:33:55 +0000 UTC]

hm...interesting. well, I wold suggest trying to torch cane into the ring, make sure you try not to shake too much while doing that though... If that doesn't work I'll think about it for a bit and get back to you again. But yeah, torch it in there after you're jackline is in and then marver it shut right afterwords. If marvering doesn't work for you you could always use some newspaper to shut it that way, its a bit gentler on the glass, doesn't spread the color out as much, etc.

Yeah, so as of right now I'm working on a contest in Denmark, not sure what I'm gonna submit. Its probably a piece I haven't gotten to put on here yet (still editing, blah)

2 months? You're doing well for that short amount of time.

P.S. put more prunts on your work. I prunts. Sure they can be ugly, but I love em anyway ^_^

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from-time-to-time In reply to fragilecraft [2006-11-08 04:47:18 +0000 UTC]

yea, torching some cane into the jack line is the way to go. i just tried it, unfourtunately i don't always have a partner, so i had to try and get it straight while my piece was on a hanger...not so easy. thanks for the tip about using the paper instead of the marver though, it made things loads easier.

oh, and i dont know what prunts are. bits maybe?

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fragilecraft In reply to from-time-to-time [2006-11-08 05:39:07 +0000 UTC]

mmm, prunts. Prunts are bits that look kinda like nipples. Used first in either Turkey or Germany, I think it was Germany, for gripping, before handles. If you were eating chicken or whatever and drinking mead your hands would get greasy without napkins, and as such, prunts were used for gripping on beer steins so that it was harder to drop and break a glass

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from-time-to-time In reply to fragilecraft [2006-11-08 06:15:37 +0000 UTC]

word.

yo, if you like texture and grip and whatnot try using steele filings. pick it up like frit, it looks really raw, but its cool

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fragilecraft In reply to from-time-to-time [2006-11-08 06:17:30 +0000 UTC]

yeah, they're cool as well.

Ooh, and try copper as well, copper is funn.

okay, this is gettin re-diculous, if you want to talk I'm online. XD

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