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Someone emailed me asking what type of build do werelionesses have. I thought it was a great chance to draw this little sketchRelated content
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BloodRedBerzerker [2013-10-11 04:44:43 +0000 UTC]
I know that since brit's grandma was a werelion that both her and her biological dad are stronger than the average werecheetah. But how do they rank up against full blooded werelions. I heard that brit's strength barely goes beyond 2 tons(which is strange to me) and her dad is supposed be much stronger than her.
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GHENGIZZ [2013-06-20 01:13:00 +0000 UTC]
I wondered why Cheetah seemed so big. For a cheetah I mean.
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CyberMaveric21 [2013-01-01 23:40:50 +0000 UTC]
Just curious with weres having endo auras for enhanced speed, strength, and healing as well as exo auras for supernatural feat bonus such as super speed, super strength and advance concealment, I was wondering they have the ability to develop chi to advance their ability even further?
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ZytherDark [2013-01-01 17:02:21 +0000 UTC]
Fascinated by the Fact Lycanthropes were created in GD. In my story I adopting the concept but altering the reasons behind their creation which leads me to my next question. If a paragon was attempting to make a stronger Elves/Humans by combining them with Animals. Were their accidents or expiriments that lead to other races> Mermaids, Chimera, Griffons, Any Taur creatures?
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Thrythlind [2013-01-01 03:45:33 +0000 UTC]
Hmm, I should ask about weresharks while were talking, though that seems unlikely since it looked like Iceron's realm was mostly land-bound
I was surprised to find that a lot of shark myths have them rather more druidic and serene than the beastial monsters WoD made of the idea
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FredGDPerry In reply to Thrythlind [2013-01-01 04:43:53 +0000 UTC]
That's right Iceron created only from land bound. They his secrets were lost a year after Sherisha infected him.
Iceron made the werecats to try to find and kill every last wererat (and especially Sherisha) before the vassal infection took hold of his aura. H
He didn't make it.
The secret to creating lycanthropes can still be uncovered or rediscovered through research.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-02 01:14:59 +0000 UTC]
Come to think of it, where was Iceron's domain? I mean, he snatched people and animals from all over the world, so that in itself doesn't narrow it down any. His appearance makes me think eastern or northern Europe, but (apparent) heritage doesn't necessarily lead to where a guy in his position would have set up shop, especially with his apparent means of travel.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2013-01-02 22:41:42 +0000 UTC]
Gothwrain's domain was in the middle east near Persia.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-02 22:59:59 +0000 UTC]
Ah. So he might've known old Tyranthrax, eh? XD
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Thrythlind In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-01 08:00:47 +0000 UTC]
must have been "interesting" for him watching the vassal effect coming....
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Gowcaizer [2013-01-01 02:53:57 +0000 UTC]
I think you need to do general build charts like this of ALL werespecies!
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Gowcaizer In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-01 05:24:36 +0000 UTC]
Yay! And Happy New Year!
Also, you were right - Oompa-Loompas are evil: [link]
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Thrythlind [2012-12-31 22:23:19 +0000 UTC]
hmm, so if they're based on elves originally....doesn't that mean they have the same genetic heritage as the Kryn, Atlanteans, Trolls and Elves?
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FredGDPerry In reply to Thrythlind [2012-12-31 22:54:27 +0000 UTC]
Werelions? Yes.
Werecheetahs? no. Werecheetahs are african, southern europe and feline mix.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 23:22:03 +0000 UTC]
So why did the elves just go to the lions? Attempts to balance out the speed impediment caused by their larger size?
I'm guessing the jaguars' ancestors were South American tribals... maybe a bit of wood elf, and, of course, feline. Tigers... southern/central Asian and feline, maybe with some east Asian thrown in, unless they're the ones that got a bit of wood elf. Again, just my guess given what you've now revealed about the lions and cheetahs.
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ZytherDark In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-03 16:32:18 +0000 UTC]
Another Question:
Healing, can Were-folks abnormal healing factor occur in all three forms? Or just the Hybrid?
Can Were-Folk control whether or not they can inflict Lycanthropy? I mean to they have to Will it, to infect it?
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Ragehoof In reply to ZytherDark [2013-01-05 18:50:51 +0000 UTC]
The lycanthropy thing was addressed a while ago. They have to want to afflict someone and then be able to overpower the person's aura, effectively injecting their own into the victim's.
As for regeneration... I can't remember if that was ever fully addressed outside of the source books. Which show that no lycanthrope (barring Brianna, who technically isn't a 'real' lycanthrope) has any of their 'hybrid aura' bonuses in human form. Well, except for Sheila's strength and speed in human form, though she still lacks the regenerative and special defense bonuses. So they can heal and be resistant to 'normal' damage in general in animal or hybrid form, but human form is as squishy as a normal human with the equivalent training.
Obviously, if Fred gets around to responding and says something different, he's right, since it's his setting we're talking about. But to the best of my knowledge, I've answered accurately.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 21:49:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm curious about the Lunar Rave. Is that something unique to the cats, or can the wolves and rats do it, too? For that matter, would all who have it bulk up while under its effects the way Gar did back when he faced G'nolga the first time?
If Xerses's grandmother was a werelion, would that mean there's a chance that he could have had an aunt or uncle that was a werelion? Since it's apparently not like pokemon, where the mom determines species. XD
Ooh! On werecheetahs, why are they the only cats to have such a striking hair color in human form? All the other cats, along with the wolves and rats, can pass as normal humans if they do something to hide their ears. The cheetahs' hair is kind of distinctive, though. For that matter, is the red hair for werejaguars just a family thing with Gar and Sheila, or is red hair not a recessive gene in werejaguars the way it is in humans? Lastly on hair, how common are 'unusual' hair colors among the wererats? Since both Moisha and Romeo have hair colors that wouldn't be considered natural on real world Earth, but apparently aren't that uncommon on GD Earth.
Just how does the magical stealth of the wererats work? Is it just sort of a... I dunno, perception filter kind of thing? Y'know, where they don't really go invisible or Presence Masked, but emit a sort of 'I'm not here, don't pay attention to me' kind of effect that causes people to ignore them unless they're really looking for them. I figure it doesn't work with Presence Mask, since I think it was mentioned that that has a sound-dampening effect, and werejaguar hearing was supposed to be able to track them when they were hiding.
Sorry about the number of questions, but you did ask if folks had questions.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 22:49:59 +0000 UTC]
Lycanthrope hybrid auras grants special abilities as well as physical enhancements and alterations. Werecheetahs get magical speed enhancement, (It's not *all* her legs doing it.) and "Doomgaze."
So yeah. In an anti-magic zone, Brit' can't break the sound barrier! (She can't even come close!!!)
Hybrid aura, like all auras, are persistent in anti-magic zones. Brit' wont' change to her human form if she enters one. She just can't effect the environment with her special external-influence abilities. (Doomgaze, Speed enhance.) Internal influence abilites (Strength, muscular speed, and regeneration, internal werecheetah enhancements) Stay active.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 23:02:27 +0000 UTC]
Ah. So Gar wouldn't quite be 'trained human' if he did pursue his goal of becoming Armsmaster, since the arenas are anti-magic.
Although I didn't ask about anti-magic zones. Still, this makes for good info. I'll have to be sure to jot this down so I don't forget.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2013-01-01 00:59:11 +0000 UTC]
Hybrid Gar might be a bit slugglish in an anti-magic arena. While physically stronger than his human form, he'll be a little slower than he's use to (Normally he can react just as fast as he can in his human form.)
Gar realizes this and will compete in human form.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-01 01:08:28 +0000 UTC]
Ah, cool. So, presumably, a big guy like Onoli (or werelions in general) would also be slowed, since Gar being slowed seems to imply that even the non-'super speed' cats have some measure of enhanced speed to counteract the added weight of their larger physiques.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2013-01-01 01:35:19 +0000 UTC]
that's absolutely correct. Which is why they train in human form too. Just so they can defend themselves in just such an emergency.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2013-01-01 01:40:39 +0000 UTC]
Ah, cool. I guess lonzo was right about my insight, and here I thought I was just overthinking things. XD
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 22:40:15 +0000 UTC]
Lycanthrope hair patterns are side effects of the hybrid aura's leaking instructions to the human form's growth hormones. Gothrwain was good, but he was far from perfect. LOTS of bugs in his lycanthropy enchantment.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 22:47:45 +0000 UTC]
So the werecheetahs just got the short end of the stick in terms of 'disguise' hair. Okay.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 22:35:55 +0000 UTC]
Lunar Rave: A type of aura flare (I was going to explain aura flares in Books of Magic, but }Sigh{ nowhere near enough orders...) That enhances the hybrid aura.
----The hybrid aura is what grants the physical change attributes of all lycanthropes. The advantage is offset because of the aura's aversion to silver and magical attacks (like other hybrid auras.) This is why silver, magic and other lycanthropes can disrupt lycanthropic regeneration.
Back to the lunar rave type of aura flare. Lycanthrope auras collect ambient lunar ether. (Ghost light radiating from lunar light reflections.) Charging them not unlike Megaman's megabuster. The charge is peaked during full moons. (Which is why Brit found it easiest to change during full moons when she didn't know how to do it normally.) Solar eclipse lunar energy overcharges hybrid auras in one out of a thousand werecats. (All other werecat hybrid auras ignore this extra energy like a cup running over the brim.
Aura flares burn up all the energy contained within the aura and keep burning even after the stored energy is used, damaging the aura. (Like setting a log on fire with white phosporus.) Lunar rave flares the unique solar eclipse mana instead of the normal mana. When the solar eclipse mana is gone, the rave is extiquished because it only burns up that unique flavor of mana.
The Aura flare from lunar rave is fed right into the boons given by the hybrid aura. So for a short period of time, Gar is a were-were-jaguar (If you take my meaning.)
Dang. I really wish books of magic sold better. I was all set to explain this stuff in there!
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 22:44:55 +0000 UTC]
Ah. So it is unique to werecats, then.
And I like that. A were-were-jaguar. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense, grammatically speaking, but it's an amusing term. XD
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 22:52:19 +0000 UTC]
Yup. Unique to werecats. it's a bug BTW.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 22:53:45 +0000 UTC]
Ah. That's actually kind of what I was figuring, since it's so rare.
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ZytherDark In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 21:36:45 +0000 UTC]
If Brit has Were-Lion in her blood, what the hell is in Moisha's blood.
Also curious about Were-Bears. Never seen'em in GD but I see most of your species originate from a good ol' D&D monster guide. For the longest time I thought you made up the term Abyssilisk(sp) Only to discover they're the larger more aggressive version of Basilisks.
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FredGDPerry In reply to ZytherDark [2012-12-31 22:03:19 +0000 UTC]
Moisha is pure were-rat. SANDrat/CANErat crossbreed.
There are many subspecies of were-rat DrK (Part of the gerbil family actually).
Sand rats and cane rats are incredibly laid back for rodents and pack a lot of fat on them. The females, therefore, have huge mammary glands in proportion to their body weight and feed tons of babies. Thus you have Moisha's huge gerbily chest! (Basically Moisha's packing the DNA of Dolly Parton rats and the Chelsea Charms rats)
Romeo's sub-species is the shy and timid "Wood Rat."
Lydia's sub-species is the intelligent, fiesty but family oriented Brown rat.
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Ragehoof In reply to ZytherDark [2012-12-31 21:57:43 +0000 UTC]
Just a guess on my part (obviously), but I'd figure very gifted human ancestry. Or random genetic quirk. Do feel a bit silly that I didn't ask that or something similar, since she's one of my three favorite GD girls, though. XD
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GBHPrime84 [2012-12-31 18:38:20 +0000 UTC]
Wow, that makes a heck of a lot of sense, and it answers one of those questions I meant to ask at Megacon but plum forgot regarding passing genes between different werecat species.
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thunderfoxjt [2012-12-31 18:22:02 +0000 UTC]
that's awesome, I'm sure you remember my old OC, Adrio, who you drew a sketch with Sheila way back then, was also going to be a werelion too. XD Hence the long hair and such. Even my avatar-self would want to be a werefox.
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Ragehoof [2012-12-31 16:37:09 +0000 UTC]
Huh. I'd always thought Iceron used purely human stock to make the werefolk. Especially the cats, given his, uh... time limit and weakened position. I mean, I figured affliction could potentially affect elves back before I read the issues with their, ah... complex history, but knowing they were used as a base build is somewhat different.
Though I suppose plains elves being African would explain the darker skin tone, since they would need more melanin if elves didn't have some other method of coping with stronger sunlight.
And Xerses' grandmother being a werelion would definitely explain why he manages to be physically superior to his daughter despite his smaller build. o.O
I guess the only question this really raises is why werelions have a 'human' form if most were made from elves? By which I mean the ear length. You've gone the WoW route (or at least, most would consider it that, since they're more likely to think you borrowed your elves' look from WoW) by having elf ears be long, tapered things. Meanwhile, the werefolks' ears are more like 'traditional' elf ears. I mean, it's not a major question, but it just sort of confuses me. My guess would be that the ears being like that is a result of Iceron's fusion process, but I've guessed wrong in the past.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 16:40:17 +0000 UTC]
Commas are wonderful things. Too bad I didn't use them right.
It should have read "African, Savanna Elf and feline features."
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 16:59:35 +0000 UTC]
Ahhh, so he just used the molding from the fusion - since he could obviously alter the resulting hybrid to some degree, what with the 'gifts' he gave his creations - to give his new servants elvish features, then? Or am I interpreting that wrong?
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 17:28:01 +0000 UTC]
He just needed some(normal body type) hominids to alter. Human and Elven are both pretty malleable. All he needed to collect some were glyph traps. Gothwrain's enchanted traps are surprisingly potent.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 18:08:17 +0000 UTC]
I'd imagine they would be, considering he's the most powerful non-precursor (catch-all term I use for the Artificers, Gardeners, and Shadows when I'm talking to friends about GD) enchanter known to the series. XD
I guess the malleability negates my original guess about the elves' history having an impact on this kind of thing. Personally, I'd figured dwarves would be more susceptible (despite their magic resistance, which I know is rather foolish) because they're more... mundane so far as we the readers know, while the elves and trolls are aliens.
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 20:56:28 +0000 UTC]
Except the gaoblin who altered themselves to be elven didn't take into account the near human adaptability (And malleability) of their elven physiques. Just as the gaoblin who altered themselves to be trolvic didn't forsee their lessened affinity with magic.
Their racial insecurity and anxiety got the better of all 4 races and they started fighting. "Atlantean vs Kryn" "Troll vs Elf"
Being very alike but *slightly* different tends to bring out the worst feuds in hominids.
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 21:33:43 +0000 UTC]
Ah, okay. I just figured since Stryyp's genes confused Pee Wee (I'm guessing it was the Symbiots or the deeply-buried Gaoblin genes), who noted at the time that he could decode magical genes rather easily, that anything to do with the Gardeners/Dynasty would be fairly resistant to alteration.
Err... so, wait. Atlantians and Kryn don't get along out in the galaxy? Because I thought that feud was isolated to Earth because their city-ships' occupants blamed each other for what happened to the Amaran city-ship. Hm... I might have to readjust parts of the combined setting I've been working on if that's the case. o.O
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FredGDPerry In reply to Ragehoof [2012-12-31 22:59:52 +0000 UTC]
Elven and Trolvic societies don't war *everywhere*. They didn't in the old times either.
Think of Atlanteans and Kryn as space elves and trolls if you like. They *can* get along when their leaders grow some maturity. But when mob rule overshadows sane leadership, stuff gets midevil!
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Ragehoof In reply to FredGDPerry [2012-12-31 23:14:45 +0000 UTC]
Ah. That kind of throws a monkey wrench in part of the combined setting I was working on, since I'd assumed Atlantians and Kryn were normally peaceful towards each other. Although I guess a solution wouldn't be too difficult to hammer out.
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