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please read this if you're going to even attempt to argue meI'm fucking sick and tired of arguing this offline and on.
I don't give a shit what the "Bible" says, the Bible doesn't determine the meaning of the word animal.
GET THE HELL OVER IT!
Being an animal is based of biological properties, NOT BEHAVIOR, SPIRITUALITY OR INTELLIGENCE! In other words stop using the lame arguements: Humans have souls, cause wars, are smarter, have morals and any other bullshit related to our behavior.
THAT HAS NOTHING AND I REPEAT NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMANS BEING ANIMALS, DIMWIT!!!
Why can't you just look up what animal means instead of arguing using an outdated book?
Really would you argue that elephants aren't indangered because an outdated text says their population is fine? FUCK NO! So why argue the meaning of a word by using old text?
Meanings of words change over time, the definition of animal is one of those words and no amount of arguing with G-manluver will make your argument right.
You're wrong, humans are animals, you're wrong, too bad, so sad, use a dictionary, you're wrong!
The end!
PS: you can argue it here but again no amount of arguing will me with change the proper definition of animal
EDIT: apparently my stamp is the most popular one of the day D:. wow this did much better than presumed.
EDIT 2: I said get over it! So GET OVER IT. your faith is incapable of changing known information so quit with the "God made us special" crap because if you can't prove it (meaning first you'd have to prove God exist, than get him to prove he created humans than get him to prove he made them into a unique seperate lifeform from all other species) than you have no argument. simple right?
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Comments: 582
G-manluver In reply to ??? [2010-06-05 18:12:54 +0000 UTC]
Indeed. and its a good thing really, at least we can excuse human stupidity as "well were just bald apes, what you expect?"
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Kurokami-11 In reply to G-manluver [2010-06-05 18:29:52 +0000 UTC]
Heh, you have a point there XD
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moonbeam-goddess [2010-05-27 19:15:33 +0000 UTC]
People think that o.0 I've heared it from one or two people but that was when I was younger and my friends and I were ignorant (and I mean really young). I beleive it says in the bible that God made humans above all the other animals and that we were in charge; but that never says we aren't though I don't have a copy of the text.
Although you are right and the people who are arguing that we aren't are a bit scary, most people are probably getting iffy because you called it an outdated text Entire nations have based their History around it (I live in one) so means a lot to some people.
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G-manluver In reply to moonbeam-goddess [2010-05-27 19:57:46 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, but still holy bible=/=defines words. I understand people getting confused but once someone points out an animal is a physical characteristic and not something a God or wahtever can make you above there shouldn't be any further confussion .
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RadioactiveBirds [2010-04-23 10:40:37 +0000 UTC]
An animal is everything that is living apart from plants and some other stuff like germs. O_o So if we're not animals what are we? I really don't understand why people think that we're not animals, I always feel like saying back to them "The definition of 'animal' is everything that is living apart from plants, so your saying your a tree?" and then seeing their face. X3
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G-manluver In reply to RadioactiveBirds [2010-04-23 18:26:30 +0000 UTC]
Exactly, I think they fail to understand that (since most of these animal denyer are Christian) that the definition of what an animal is has change drastically in the last few thousand years. It no longer a reference to "beasts" it just means a lifeform that fits a certain critiria of traits which we humans fit, otherwise we would be classified as plant or fungus or something
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silent33 [2010-04-17 01:26:13 +0000 UTC]
So true! Finally someone says what is fact!
Humans aren't anything more than animals. We live on our instincts, just like 'animals'. Besides it's very clear... i mean... WE ENVELOPED FROM APES *need any more information?* And these whole sh*t about the 'god created the human* oh come on
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Nightmare-Deity [2010-04-02 13:41:26 +0000 UTC]
I'm a mushroom and you can never take that away from me. YOU HEAR ME? NEVVARRR.
Nah but srsly people tried to bring the Bible into this argument...? Oi vey...It's not like "animal" is even insulting for crying out loud, why is the human race so insecure it feels it needs a different set of rules in order to function? Yeah we have society, war and what have you, but we're still ultimately animals. "Human" is just another species of animal. A retarded one at that as we can see by some of the comments
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G-manluver In reply to Nightmare-Deity [2010-04-02 20:40:06 +0000 UTC]
Indeed, some people just can't wrap their brains around the concept that the word "animal" is a biological term to describ a lifeform with certain traits, its not a insult or some way to degrade anyone.
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LeviaDraconia [2010-02-11 09:04:22 +0000 UTC]
Hm, humans still aren't animals, cause animals aren't so stupid...
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DatumShark [2009-12-19 18:55:50 +0000 UTC]
TRUE! The only reason people think we are not animals is because we can do so much more. If we're not an animal than what are we? Human has to be in some catagory of life, and that is animals.
We breath, eat, drink, move, we have all of the organs that an animal has, and we have limbs. Anything that has those features is know as an animal. (except insects 'cause they have 6 legs
)
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G-manluver In reply to DatumShark [2009-12-19 19:50:54 +0000 UTC]
actually insects are technically animals too xP even sea sponges are animals!
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DatumShark In reply to G-manluver [2009-12-19 20:13:52 +0000 UTC]
lol thanks for clearing that up X]
*cough*Iknownothingaboutanimals*cough*
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G-manluver In reply to DatumShark [2009-12-19 20:22:20 +0000 UTC]
its alright xP I'm pretty well verse in biology (not as much as I wish I was but still) so I do know a bit about what's an animal and what's not.
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Acayth [2009-12-13 14:11:38 +0000 UTC]
I really canΒ΄t understand that some people are thinking that humans are somthing like god creatures! that they can do with animals what ever they want cuz they thing that animals canΒ΄t think and feel! Thats horrible._.
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G-manluver In reply to Acayth [2009-12-13 22:45:11 +0000 UTC]
.__. quite, anyone that has had a dog or cat as a pet should know that animals can feel. Its like if these people never seen an animal alive before...
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grievousfan [2009-11-12 20:31:28 +0000 UTC]
I was talking about this with somebody today
I have to say I agree that humans are animals, just a "different breed", in that we have a conscience and know "right" from "wrong". I read somewhere that humans are mainly set apart because we're the only animals that are consciously cruel; other animals like lions are just cruel because their first and foremost instinct is survival, by any means necessary.
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G-manluver In reply to grievousfan [2009-11-12 20:51:29 +0000 UTC]
You read wrong sadly, there are other animals that do cruel things just because (dolphins for example). But it is indeed a rare trait.
Actually the only trait that sets us apart is the way we walk. No other species lives at this time with our strange form of bipedality. All other things we humans tend to believe our human only traits are found in at least one other species if not dozens of other species (using tool, being self aware, having wars, killing for shits and giggles, being monogamous, etc, etc...)
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grievousfan In reply to G-manluver [2009-11-12 21:08:56 +0000 UTC]
I've never heard that
Yurs...that too I read an article about mobility somewhere and it was about how humans' internal organs are supported on a vertical spine instead of hung below a horizontal one.
I think I almost fell down the stairs because I was watching how I walked the rest of the day
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Gozer-The-Destroyor [2009-11-05 15:33:14 +0000 UTC]
Where most would see the idea of humans being animals as insulting or degrading, I find it humbling. I'm also not heartbroken over the idea of out thoughts and emotions being nothing more than electrical impulses. No, quite the opposite, it's amazing.
We are animals whose thoughts and emotions are basically just electrical impulses, and yet look at all we've done as a species. Look at how far we've separated ourselves from the animal kingdom. It's no wonder so many people still think we're not animals, for with all of our accomplishments, I think the fact that we're so easily mistakable for something else is something to take pride in.
If people can feel amazed at how much we've accomplished in comparison to other species and chalk it all up to the doings of some busybody in the sky, then isn't it even more astonishing to imagine that we did it all on our own, without any help?
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G-manluver In reply to Gozer-The-Destroyor [2009-11-05 15:44:18 +0000 UTC]
Indeed, every day I wake up and am utterly amazed at how much humans have done. Its just so much more amazing to think we actually accomplish it because some ape like creatures millions of years ago got a massive advantage of being able to walk bipedally. That alone is 10000x more amazing then a magic invisible guy just pop us into existance as part of some real life version of Spore.
We're part of nature even if sometimes we feel like we're above it, we're just the most amazing animal to ever walk the earth.
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Zohrra [2009-10-29 23:38:06 +0000 UTC]
I believe the bible a lot BUT I have to say I see this point clearly and have use this point myself, there is this one guy in my class at college who keeps trying to offend one of my friends by calling him an animal, so I just bring this up and he usually shuts up. XD
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G-manluver In reply to Zohrra [2009-10-30 15:39:13 +0000 UTC]
that's good, I have no problem if people believe in the bible. The just have to remember it was written thousands of years ago so its definitions of things may be... no longer accurate x.x
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Zohrra In reply to G-manluver [2009-10-30 16:35:21 +0000 UTC]
Well luckily I have one of the more modern translations
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DarkCougar555 [2009-10-19 17:29:35 +0000 UTC]
I read your artist's comment, and some of their comments here. Mmm... It sound like you attempted to force them to accept your belief. Funny, they passionately attempted to force you to accept their belief, too. Personally, I think people should just give some respect for their different POVs. I'm sorry that you had a hard time to deal with them.
Don't let them upset you! Just stay what you believe in.
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G-manluver In reply to DarkCougar555 [2009-10-19 17:39:22 +0000 UTC]
it isn't a belief. A belief would be something you can't prove either way (like if there is an afterlife or a god). An animal is a specific thing, there are no beliefs surrounding what is or is not an animal. If we allow people to decide what is or is not something, language would die that very moment.
People already abuse the English language to death to allow them to have discriminating beliefs, no one should have to "allow" them do so without being able to call bullshit.
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DarkCougar555 In reply to G-manluver [2009-10-19 17:44:58 +0000 UTC]
Oh, maybe I am not good with words. I mean, POVs on "humans are animals" vs "humans are not animals", not gods or afterlives. Sorry for not make so clear.
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G-manluver In reply to DarkCougar555 [2009-10-19 17:55:29 +0000 UTC]
well what defines an animal is traits, all of which humans have. The only way humans couldn't be animals is if scientists spent years trying to find a defining point that no other animal has that humans have as a seperation between humans and animals... and that would be plain retarded to do as all it would be is giving in to illogical people that don't understand being an animal is a physical trait, not a social or psychological one.
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DarkCougar555 In reply to G-manluver [2009-10-19 18:29:05 +0000 UTC]
That's pretty interesting how you think of. Personally, I just don't believe in "humans are animals". I think that is shame when those people tried to impose their POVs/opinions on you. I never thought of flaming comments in here until I saw this deviation. I wonder, why cannot they disagree to agree without getting so personal?
Thanks for be civil with me.
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G-manluver In reply to DarkCougar555 [2009-10-19 19:00:17 +0000 UTC]
Because you can't believe something that is a yes or no thing. People will disagree for the same reason people that argue that the world is flat will disagree. If you have an opposing view that has been proven incorrect you can't honestly think people will not say anything if you explain humans aren't something they are.
That's just life.
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DarkCougar555 In reply to G-manluver [2009-10-19 19:34:53 +0000 UTC]
Okay.
That's just life.
Yeah, agreed.
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Mongrelistic [2009-09-02 06:57:58 +0000 UTC]
It's amazing because I was arguing with my boyfriend about this today.
Plus any other day we get into technical stuff like this.
or religion, lols.
I would just flat out say "Humans ARE animals. Sure we're different and basically the most dominant species on earth, but we're still a species of animal."
He's just like, "eeeeh I don't think so...".
It's the whole concept that labeling something as an "animal" instantaneously makes it bad, stupid, or worthless.
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G-manluver In reply to Mongrelistic [2009-09-02 15:34:11 +0000 UTC]
x.x indeed, animals aren't stupid, bad or worthless; hell if some animals went extinct humans would be fucked.
Humans are animals on a biological level which is really the only level that counts in any logical argument. We could argue for a million years about the philosophical definition of animal and would get nowhere.
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Mongrelistic In reply to G-manluver [2009-09-03 04:30:12 +0000 UTC]
It's amazing how critters are important, take bees for example. c:
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G-manluver In reply to Mongrelistic [2009-09-03 14:05:25 +0000 UTC]
yeah, bees are awesome :3, and cute despite the danger.
... Dx though I wish its plz account was more appealing.
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Mongrelistic In reply to G-manluver [2009-09-04 23:22:10 +0000 UTC]
Should have the bee from invader zim. xD
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Fangeh [2009-08-11 15:42:52 +0000 UTC]
"You're wrong, humans are animals, you're wrong, too bad, so sad, use a dictionary, you're wrong!"
This^^^^^
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