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G-manluver — No more arguments about this
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please read this if you're going to even attempt to argue meI'm fucking sick and tired of arguing this offline and on.
I don't give a shit what the "Bible" says, the Bible doesn't determine the meaning of the word animal.
GET THE HELL OVER IT!
Being an animal is based of biological properties, NOT BEHAVIOR, SPIRITUALITY OR INTELLIGENCE! In other words stop using the lame arguements: Humans have souls, cause wars, are smarter, have morals and any other bullshit related to our behavior.
THAT HAS NOTHING AND I REPEAT NOTHING TO DO WITH HUMANS BEING ANIMALS, DIMWIT!!!
Why can't you just look up what animal means instead of arguing using an outdated book?
Really would you argue that elephants aren't indangered because an outdated text says their population is fine? FUCK NO! So why argue the meaning of a word by using old text?
Meanings of words change over time, the definition of animal is one of those words and no amount of arguing with G-manluver will make your argument right.
You're wrong, humans are animals, you're wrong, too bad, so sad, use a dictionary, you're wrong!
The end!
PS: you can argue it here but again no amount of arguing will me with change the proper definition of animal
. Just sit back, relax and live with the thought that you aren't a plant or fugi at the least!EDIT: apparently my stamp is the most popular one of the day D:. wow this did much better than presumed.
EDIT 2: I said get over it! So GET OVER IT. your faith is incapable of changing known information so quit with the "God made us special" crap because if you can't prove it (meaning first you'd have to prove God exist, than get him to prove he created humans than get him to prove he made them into a unique seperate lifeform from all other species) than you have no argument. simple right?
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I'm Catholic, but I know that humans are animals too. It's kind of a silly argument. You must admit, though, that there IS a distinction between humans and pretty much every other species; would you kill and eat a human for food, just because? Morality is the only difference, I think. We're still animals, though.
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animals seem to have morals too in a way O.o depending on the species you see a heck of a lot of moral behavior in various wild animals. In social species like wolves and other primates its not uncommon for members to get chased away if they constantly do something deemed "wrong" by the group. They have rules, just not ones written down.
But happy to know you don't argue the point that were animals
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Lol I read every single comment on this stamp. Must say it was quite entertaining. Oh silly ridiculous religious people trying to claim that animals are useless slaves to us. It sounds just like racist people in the old days.
When will people grow up and pull their heads outta their asses. :C
Awesome stamp anyhow.
wish I could use it
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Probably never, though we can always hope people will get their heads out of their asses about things like this some day.
Really, I don't have a problem with killing animals if I need to eat but saying that its ok to kill them because they're "inferior" or "God made them as food for me" is retarded and completely wrong. Only ignorant people use ignorant excuses rather than legit ones.
Anyway thanks :3, you could always make a stamp collection favorite folder if you wanted to have a special place for DA stamps.
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This is a great stamp, too bad it is a "bad" format. Otherwise I would definitely use it!
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sorry about that 
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I love you for making this 
I'm so sick of people saying that we aren't animals. Just because we humans can come up with some fancy name for ourselves doesn't change the fact that we are still animals. A lot of the same religious people that say we aren't animals believe that dinosaurs didn't exist. XD
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D: yeah, those kind of religious people scare me with their sheer level of ignorance. And no problem, happy this stamp was a good idea.
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lets see...humans are mammals...mammals=animal species...dont see why people are arguing that...we are a different species...but a species nonetheless
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its called their religion uses a very old definition of animal (which was pretty much "everything other than humans that's alive=animal") and they're too stubborn to accept their book is behind the times for some reason x.x. Its quite annoying.
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I agree. I also hate when people compare terrible behavior to that of an animal. I always have to slap my forehead and say, "You idiot! We are animals!". People are so ignorant, and it pisses me off. The fact that we can talk doesn't set us apart and make us a separate life form from all other animals. Thanks for making this stamp. It really made my day a whole lot better.
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Lawl, people think they're fruits, vegetables and fungi.
WHO ARE YOU TO SAY WHAT WORDS MEAN?! I SAY WE'RE TABLES, THAT'S THE WORD, TABLES!
I tell you what it is
What is it gat dang it?!
It's some kinda Texas Psychobilly freakout that's what it is!
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Of course we're animals, what else would we be?
You have to admit though...those religous types can be quite funny when they're arguing about their beleifs
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People often say we are half-monkey, which I find false and totally offensive.
We're all-ape.
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No!
We are chimps! Pans narrans; story-telling chimps! Everyone knows that!
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We are not chimps. Now who's being ridiculous?
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It was a joke, just like your comment.
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Oh. My sarcasm-meter must be busted. Sorry!
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indeed, very smart bald great apes :>
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Speak for yourself, I have a nice head of hair
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I was going for "mostly bald" but forgot the mostly part
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I can't think of a single quality that humans have that some other animal doesn't share.
Mental intelligence like some primates and birds. Emotional intelligence like a great many creatures, such as cetaceans (dolphins, whales, etc), elephants, cats, and dogs. And so on and so forth. [link]
We just happen to have a certain combination of characteristics that make us both capable and willing to dominate other creatures for fun and profit (such as dexterity, greed, ego, and mathematical intelligence). Basically humans are just huge, intelligent, and pestilent parasites.
And I have to say that, having known and lived with a great many cats, humans are not the only animals capable of emotion, cognition, and spirituality.
Oh, and termites mate for life.
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Hehe, I agree with all of what your saying. How could people think otherwise? @@'
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because for some reason they assume the bible is a dictionary 
Being an animal is just a biological trait, there's really nothing the matter with it.
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Do...most Christians not acknowledge we're animals? o_o
I'm a Christian, and regardless of how others interpret what the Bible says, it is still that. Sure, in God's eyes we're special and 'more precious' in His eyes or something than the rest of them, but we still are one.
Will be sure to take this when I get unlazy and update ;;
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nah, most christians accept this information. Only the really nutty ones think for some reason that animal means the same thing it did 2000+ years ago.
I wish there were more smart Christians that wouldn't make pointless arguments with me about stuff like this ;.; especially whe it proves they have no idea what they're talking about.
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Yeah, scientific fact, man. An animal moves, eats, reproduces, reacts, does a shitload of other things I can't remember...
Ces't moi!
Besides, I have on good authority that I am definitely an animal...
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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I agree!
why should we not be an animal? XD even if we are a bit different (like intelligence, and that you said) from the other animals, we have the same anatomy.We eat, sleep, and all those things. Apes are animals, and we evolved from them.
The bible is just an old book someone write because they didn't know better XD why should humans be so special? We are just intelligent apes! XD
using this <3
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thanks :3. and happy you agree, I seriously tire of the "but the bible says different" crap. The bible was written before animal was define as it is now, before it meant "anything alive other than humans" (which is a pretty pathetic way to define animal since humans share EVERY PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTIC with them) now the word usually means "anything alive that eats food and can move" which means humans are definitely under that category.
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Wou i agree with you in absolutly EVERYTHING
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Here here
my veiws are probably as contrdictory as the bible its self
but first off i actualy dont belive in god or who/whatever it is
it makes to little sence to me that a sugestive at best book over 2000 year old when times and culture was compleatly diffrent is telling us what is right and wrong when some of the things they teach are clearly wrong at times.
but i find religion very interesting because of how did it come to be?
if you think about it there must be something that humans seen many many years ago for us to think that there was a higher being(s) maybe there actualy was!!! who knows
but either way that thing or things (if it ever existed at all) is not here now and where here now
if we realy where gods children aint it time we grew up and stood on our own 2 feet
i would admit i was wrong if god/allah/or any others desended from the sky (there the proof i would want that would be great we could all gets some awnsers then) but would a christian, muslim or jew (if it was proven with out doubt) admit they wasted there time talking to someone who was never there?......
All I know wars have never been started over "i dont belive in that same thing you dont belive in either"
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The idea of gods (and other deities) came about from humans not understanding natural phenomenon like storms, drought, earthquakes, eclipses, disease, etc. By the time we started figuring things out, the idea of supreme beings was so ingrained that the majority was (and is) willing to ignore what they can see (and the discomfort of have to reprogram such a fundamental part of one's "understanding") in order to cling to the old beliefs that are so familiar and comfortable...just like any other animal would be inclined to do when presented with the unfamiliar.
We can't all be Jonathan Livingstone Seagulls, I guess.
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that is a very logical way of thinking about it
and no i gess can be :/
its sad realy that people cant acsept that fact realy
the greatist thing humans have is there mind, we've become who we are though using our brains to work things out and understand things to make us better as a whole
come to think of it there is a complete irony in the fact that a book which you normaly use when you want to learn is actualy at times holding us back from learning :S
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I forgot to mention that having a powerful god, or gods and/or goddesses could be quite helpful to primitive tribes for scaring intruders. For example: tribe A lives in the jungle and is familiar with the particular "unexplainable" goings-on that happen in the jungle (which they attribute to their deity(s)); tribe B from the desert is familiar with the particular "divine" goings-on of the desert, but neither tribe is familiar with phenomenon outside their own territory/region; if tribe A invades tribe B, tribe B may be able to use the combination of their familiarity with desert phenomenon (their god), and the unfamiliarity of the same by tribe A (who is familiar with jungle phenomenon, but not with desert phenomenon) to frighten tribe A, either to scare them away or to make them more afraid and therefore less effective in battle.
It is sad, because it means we aren't nearly as evolved as we like to think we are (basically, humanity has a personality disorder).
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yeah i gess so
it sounds like phycological warfare
id think (depending on the belife system) that say if tribe A was invading tribe B or the other way around the invaders would use there belife in there god/deity to give them strength, as they say fight fire with fire
yeah or not evolved as we want to be
humanity dose have a few mental issues going on it seems
its funny how people say your crazy if you have imaginary friend but if its god its perfectly fine
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Yes, these hypothetical tribes would surely use their gods as a source of strength, but they may lose faith when their god does not create the phenomenon they expect because they are not in the territory where that phenomenon occurs (or something to that effect). This could also lead to socio-cultural changes, such as conversion, or integration of belief systems, and so on.
Take a walk through any mental ward and you will meet a great many people with a deep faith in some form of organized religion (usually Christianity), though this is rarely 'the reason' they are in there.
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thats another thing that bugs me about religions (mainly christianity its seems) if divisions within a religion a whole section of chriastian faith was was born because one greedy king wanted a divorce :/ they cant even seem to agree with them selfs
i gess so, if religion was considered a mental disorder there would me many more mental wards
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I agree with you to a point on this, but I think the division into different versions of a religion only really matter in regards to organized religions, especially those that claim to be irreproachable...competitive religions. From my own personal understanding of things, everyone has a "religion" - that is, everyone believes *something* and lives based on those beliefs - and that the more variety, the better, since nobody can be 100% right all the time (we are just big, intelligent, parasitic animals, after all). Knowledge and understanding are brought about by critical thought and experimentation/investigation, if one's religion centers around these approaches, it will grow and evolve naturally over time. Competitive religions, however, discourage (and often even condemn) critical thought and exploration, so whenever someone has the smallest difference in opinion about some aspect of the set-in-stone religion, a brand new sect is born, usually also set in stone. If we could all just agree that nobody is completely right, then we could do away with the wars of competitive religion, pour a cuppa, and have discussions where we say things like "ah, that is interesting, I shall have to mull that over; by the way, what do you think about this..."
Mental institutions generally began primarily as a jail/"hospital" for women who were not "well-behaved" according to white Christian patriarchaic cultural standards (as well as other assorted "crazies" who were disturbing, but not exactly law-breakers). Things haven't changed a whole lot on that front; it's still about maintaining the status quo, and the status quo is still white Christian patriarchy.
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lol if religion was more like that, it would be far better for us all 
wow realy
that dose seem very steriotypical
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I definitely enjoy conversation better than lectures
It sounds crazy, but it's true. Take, for example the word hysteria, which brings to mind someone who is crazy and out of control, and upon which many mental illnesses are defined or associated; compare it to the word hysterectomy, which is the removal of the uterus. Both words are derived from the Greek root 'hystera' which means 'uterus'. 'Hysteria' literally means 'caused by the uterus'. The term was originally attributed only to women and was used to describe typical PMS symptoms, interest in sex, lack of interest in sex, displays of emotion, ambition, or "disobedience" of any sort. I guess this was generally used when the 'rule of thumb' failed (laws that have only been out of common use for less than 100 years, which allowed a man to beat his wife with "a reasonable instrument", basically nothing wider than his thumb).
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