geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-09 00:19:24 +0000 UTC]

I own a copy of an official FBI document from the 2008 trial, that says, Epstein, Trump and Trump's layer made a death threat to one of the victims, if she wouldn't step back from her accusations (which she didn't, and Epstein was dinally sentenced to 18 month in prison for having sex with underage girls), and I remember reading another document, that Trump and Epstein once joked about who would be the first who had sex with a 13 year old in Epstein's accompany ... if in doubt, check yourself with google, I didn't fave it (but I read & saved it) but in casef you don't trust the so called "fake news" (like Washington Post, NY Times, CNN) and the FBI anyway, then it's obsolete to discuss it with me!

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OnlyTheGhosts In reply to geiselkirchen [2019-11-09 00:24:26 +0000 UTC]

I know the FBI lies a lot.

They've been caught out faking evidence and framing people many times.

The FBI has framed people before, thousands of times, and that's been exposed repeatedly. They aren't in the least trustworthy and have always played political games.This case shows what the FBI are really like;
"A federal judge Thursday ordered the government to pay more than $101 million in the case of four men who spent decades in prison for a 1965 murder they did not commit after the FBI withheld evidence of their innocence."
www.cbsnews.com/news/wrongfull…

FBI agents are corrupt. They've faked evidence to put innocent people in prison;
wyselaw.com/index.php/2015/11/…
www.latimes.com/local/californ…
justicedenied.org/issue/issue_…
www.nysun.com/new-york/ex-mobs…

The 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center:
The FBI recruited Emad Salem, a former Egyptian Army Officer, to build a bomb for a terror cell in New York. Salem suggested using fake powder for the bomb but his FBI handlers insisted that he use real powder to build an actual, working bomb. Six people were killed and over 1000 injured.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2vpcA…

This is why I prefer unredacted full originals from the original source. Not some bullshit FBI "document"

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SkyPotatoFire In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2025-07-13 02:22:41 +0000 UTC]

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geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-09 01:24:49 +0000 UTC]

since we talk alot, I guessed that already but no worries, it's always inspiring to listen

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SkyPotatoFire In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2025-07-13 02:24:08 +0000 UTC]

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geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-09 00:24:55 +0000 UTC]

check the case of 2008, it's pretty amusing ... not to mention www.google.com/search?&q=c…   ok ... not that amusing thinking of the "victims", ehmm ...

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OnlyTheGhosts In reply to geiselkirchen [2019-11-09 00:30:23 +0000 UTC]

A google search isn't evidence of anything.

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geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-09 00:54:00 +0000 UTC]

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OnlyTheGhosts In reply to geiselkirchen [2019-11-09 02:41:31 +0000 UTC]

So, you have no real evidence.

Google is a corrupt corporation that plays politics with a rigged search engine.
www.deviantart.com/onlytheghos…
www.deviantart.com/onlytheghos…
www.deviantart.com/onlytheghos…
www.deviantart.com/onlytheghos…

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geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-09 22:58:57 +0000 UTC]

I know, but hey, you are free to use any search engine you prefer to find documents on the internet ... even gopher, if your browser is still capaple of using it gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/v2   (I'd recommend Lynx-Browser for DOS, lol ... but rly, I used it even on early dA 'til ~2006)

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OnlyTheGhosts In reply to geiselkirchen [2019-11-09 23:03:54 +0000 UTC]

Not the point.

When someone just links to a page of search results, it's meaningless garbage. The goal of the person doing such is clearly to make an argument for popularity rather than provide actual evidence. The popularity of an opinion can be faked; see the poll results of 2016 before Trump was elected - all of them were false.

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geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-09 23:50:34 +0000 UTC]

well, it's a question of time ... I use search engines (from Altavista to Google) to find documents (for the last 25 years), then I carefully read stuff, even print it sometimes, and I do remember stuff I read very well, even if I read it 40 years ago (when I had to go to public libraries and copy stuff) BUT see, I can't upload my brain (not yet, lol), so I prefer to give hints where to find documents (and indeed, sometimes, I discover later, things are gone, and sometimes, it can still be found on archive.org), but I don't wanna spend too much time in searching the web for stuff I do remember well, especially for someone (means "you", lol) who denies & rejects almost everything that is "common sense" in "my world" ... don't get it wrong, I do like your scepticism and accuracy (it's probably a bit "too much", remember the 0.7% ... ehmm), and you're probably more of "an autist" like me ("part time hobby autist", hehe), but communication on this level is just too exhausting sometimes, especially because some of my HDs have been destroyed recently, and yes, I do have backups, of course, but it's now spread over dozens of sticks & cards, and since my brain still functions pretty well (despite of my age), I (now) prefer to answer from memory, and give hints where to find stuff I read (if one is interested, he'll find it, and yes, I myself prefer Google & Wikipedia as tools for quick searchn - because I know how to use these tools, and I'm old and experienced enough to decide if I trust stuff I find there, or not)

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OnlyTheGhosts In reply to geiselkirchen [2019-11-10 13:48:13 +0000 UTC]

I go by what evidence is presented. What people "believe" isn't of much use, what they may think is in their brain because "they heard it somewhere" and can't source where/when/what is usually wrong because it's just "belief" and it could be; misunderstanding, misrepresentation, result of being lied to, result of being otherwise confused.

I don't use Google because it's crap. The search results are biased ridiculously to uselessness. I don't trust Wikipedia because it's crap too, the editors are mostly frauds.

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geiselkirchen In reply to OnlyTheGhosts [2019-11-11 00:59:16 +0000 UTC]

use any search engine you prefer: "case 1:16-cv-04642 Document 1-2"
... plus (if you don't remember) www.dailymail.co.uk/news/artic…

... ok probably not enough "evidence" in your eyes, but that of course always depends of the viewpoint!

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OnlyTheGhosts In reply to geiselkirchen [2019-11-12 00:15:37 +0000 UTC]

I see a lot of false rape accusations in the media. The Democrats played that game a great deal against Kavanaugh too.

She dropped the accusation probably because she suddenly discovered that lying like that was going to be exposed as lying.

All of the rape accusations against Trump collapsed, many of the "accusers" turned out to be fakes, no real address, no real existence. Paid liars.

radaronline.com/celebrity-news…

radaronline.com/celebrity-news…

Detective Fisten said, "I interviewed hundreds of victims — people who were victimized by Jeffrey, worked with him, were part of his organization. I interviewed them, the FBI interviewed him … Trump never came up involved in this part of his life anywhere, at any time, by anybody."

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geiselkirchen In reply to mrbill6ishere [2019-08-24 00:00:21 +0000 UTC]

lol ... even worse (2016) www.google.com/search?q=anonym… ... and lately news.artnet.com/art-world/bill…

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MoralisticCommunist In reply to mrbill6ishere [2019-08-23 23:15:58 +0000 UTC]

Lock both Trump and Clinton open

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