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Here is my revision of George Orwell's 1984, where three superstates: Oceania, Eurasia, and Eastasia have divided the post-apocalyptic world after a Third World War, resulting from a Nazi victory in WW II. I admired Orwell because I feel that fascism, communism, and feudalism should be wiped out not by violence, but by free thought and equality. And to see people hate civilization and use the book as an excuse to divide up the world is indeed sick and twisted, just like how the three police-states were born. Here are the countries in my personal opinion.Oceania
Government: Oligarchical-Feudalist State (cause everything is miserable and bombed out)
Capital: Possibly New Orleans, New York, or Toronto
Territories: Americas, Australia, New Zealand, British Isles, Antarctica
Ideology: INGSOC, Feudalism, Socialism, Celtic Nationalism (Irish, Scottish, Welsh, Briton)
Anthem: [link]
Eurasia
Government: Neo-Bolshevik state (de jure)
Fascist-military dictatorship (de facto)
Capital: Berlin
Territories: USSR, Europe (except British Isles), Middle East, and Africa
Ideology: Nazism, German Aryanism, Fascism, expansionism, Anti-Celtism, Anti-Zionism, Anti-Semitism
Anthem: [link]
Eastasia
Government: Communist Government (much like north Korea and Communist China)
Capital: Shanghai
Territories: India, Afghanistan, East Asia, Japan, and most of the Pacific
Ideology: Communism, Death worship, Pan-Asianism, Imperialism, Chinese-Nationalism
Anthem:[link]
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I'm quite curious how INGSOC differs from Fascism/Nazism and Communism.
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As long as you are not deemed inferior by the Nazi's standards, it seems to me that Nazi germany would be the best place to live.
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I'm pretty sure the three superstates are all just run by the same lot of rich jackasses manipulating things behind the scenes and keeping the three way war alive to get them richer, at the expense of billions of people.
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Its not typical class warfare that drives the exist of the superstates, but the desire of obtaining power, which ultimately surpasses the illusion of rich vs poor. Each of the three superstates was established in order to exterminate each other until one nation and its ideology have surpassed all others. Its less like some Marxist point of view of society and more like a kind of survival of the fittest. Even rich people are vulnerable to such onslaught as they are nothing compared to the ruling party that controls the government. In 1984, the world is ruled by fear, not petty greed.Β
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I'm quite certain Orwell's 1984 not only stated that this was Β post-WWII (as in, the Nazis had already fallen) but that Goldstein's manifesto stated Eurasia was but an extension of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics into all of continental Europe.
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Oceania doesn't have an ideology. It's all just power for sadism's sake
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Uhh hello theres Ingsoc XD
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I personally thought of Eurasia as an expanded USSR, but I like seeing other interpretations. I think you've done a very good job here with this.
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to be honest, I didn't feel nazi effect, even they were mentioned. but your opinion in other points seems to be true, I can tell!
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You decided not to leave the neutral, contested territory that existed in 1984?
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I doubt a fascist Germany would power of the USSR.
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Why would Oceania control Antarctica? There's nothing down there but Penguins and Polar Bears.
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Natural resources... a lot!!!
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learn your geography, there are no polar bears in Antarctica
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Probably because they want to use it as a large naval base.
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Quick question, but what is the idea of death worship?
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Quote from the "Ingsoc" article on wikipedia:Β Neo-BolshevismΒ is the ideology of Eurasia, Soviet-conquered Europe.Β Death WorshipΒ (Obliteration of the Self) is the Chinese name for the ideology of Eastasia. The ruling oligarchies of the three superstates are aware that their ideologies are philosophically indistinguishable, a fact kept from, and denied by, their populaces viaΒ doublethink . Said denial, practiced in each state, and the mutual vilification of the enemy state, permitsΒ perpetual war Β among them. Without said war, the lower classes would have no focus for the hatred of, and triumph over, the enemy, with which their Inner parties dominate them and find excuses for their atrocities.
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I think these anthems fit better.
Oceania
[link]
Eurasia
[link]
East Asia
[link]
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They are Nazis and are yet seen as Neo-Bolsheviks in this version of 1984 is because America and Britain were humiliated and defeated by Nazi Germany during WW II, so INSOG formed Oceania and made propaganda to make Eurasia seem communist. The Nazis took over Russia and then formed Eurasia to dominate the world. Ultimately, this led into potential war between the two. Oceania made Eurasia look like communist within the propaganda because Oceania wants revenge.
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I really don't understand
If Nazis won, communism won't be regarded as "evil" ideology
So Eurasia would be just Neo-Fascism
But it's map
I leave it to you
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So in this future, my choices are the far-right, the far-left and death worship?
Not a very bright future is it?
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You are absolutely right, bud.
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lol nazis haven't defeated britain yet?
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its cause oceania annexed the british empire before anyone else can.
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yea, but shouldn't the Nazis have taken Britain by now? I mean, the Nazi empire controls all of Europe except for Britain.
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they're trying to. But what makes it harder for them is that East Asia's at war with them too. So this war is live 1 vs 1 vs 1.
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ooh, a 3-sided war? sounds interesting!
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hehe that funny, fortunate that Adolf was idiot (fucking nazi bolls eater)
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Eurasia formed from the Soviet Union expanding and taking over all of Europe with it's Neo-Bolsehvist ideology (basically Communism/Stalinism advanced from the Bolshevik Party of Russia) after Europe is weakened. Britain for fear of survival co-ordinates a merge between the British Empire and the United States, eventually descending into a terrifying police state governed by IngSoc (Newspeak for English Socialism, likely not actual socialism but socialism in the sense of National Socialism). Finally, Eastasia was the last power block to form completely from either China merging with Imperial Japan, or more likely due to Sino-Japanese relations, Japanese dominated over China and Asia-Pacific. This superstate has an almost psudeo-religious governing ideology being Death-Worship or Immolation of the Self (reference to how many Imperial Japanese would gladly die for the glory of their Emperor) and is a big player not because of size of the state but because of the massive population (definitely not Communist).
Just wanted to point out a few things, I really like 1984 so have read a lot into 
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I've looked over that info on this abd seen the movie and I thought of making Eurasia as nazi state in my revision. Just want to give Oceania a reason for its cruelty in this and make tjem seem like in a mood for revenge.
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In my revision yes, but not in the original.
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Where would be the best place to live? Eurasia in racist and nazi, Eastasia is totalitarian like Mao's China and NK so there must be tiny food rations and famine and if Oceania is as worse as inΒ Orwell'sΒ book then I don't wanna like on that planet.
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Perhaps living on the moon is best?
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I'll probably choose Eurasia, I am white and non-jewish and they have food and nationaism Β instead of famine, total control like in Oceania and EastAsia who are pretty much North Korean
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I see. Doesn't quite make sense though that the Nazis would use "Neo-Bolshevikism" as their official name.
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