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Mystery alignment chart revealed! Aha, satisfied? I'm not going to lie, these are really fun for me to do. I'll most likely do more in the future, as soon as I find another show that's fitting to the format. Once again I feel the need to justify a few of my choices here.Glob Grod Grob Grob- This was the last character I picked for the chart, and I knew no matter who I chose I'd have to do a little rearranging. Others I considered for different alignments were Tree Trunks, Starchy, Joshua, Ancient Psychic Tandem War Elephant, Rattleballs, Abracadaniel, Shelby, Lemonhope and others. Ultimately I went with quadruple G because I think he's generally a solid fit. High focus on empathy and supporting the Martian society he created. Plus, there's a line in season three that, while cut off, clearly says Ooo's food comes from Mars. I wonder who's responsible for that.
Lemongrab- There were actually a few characters I considered for lawful neutral. I went with Lemongrab because, while his mannerisms may be very chaotic, he himself, his personality and goals, fall in with this alignment I feel. 'A lawful neutral character acts as law, tradition, or a personal code directs them. Order and organization are paramount. They may believe in personal order and live by a code or standard.' Is that not our favorite Lemonhead?
Whisper Dan- I tried to limit the chart to major or recurring characters, but I actually really liked 'The Silent King', and the episode itself hinges on Whisper Dan being a true neutral being. There's no one more fitting, really.
Princess Bubblegum- We need to talk about Bonnie. She's a very problematic character, and they've even brought it up on the show several times. Law and order she sees as hers to play with(I mean she IS a princess), she's quick to persecute her enemies, completely disregards the personal freedoms of her people by putting everyone under constant surveillance, and worst of all has a god complex, seeing life and the universe to be hers to command. She's far from outright evil, especially since she's been on the path to redemption somewhat for a while. But even before that she still genuinely cared about her subjects. So she's a mixed bag.
**EDIT**
Flame Princess- I originally had her down as chaotic neutral, since they literally say in the show that's what she is. While I firmly that's what she was when we first met her and for a long time afterwards, that's not who she is now. I know some of you think she should be closer to evil, but I just don't see it that way. Whether or not her policies in the Fire Kingdom are ultimately good or bad, she still ultimately has what's best for the people and society as a whole in mind, and she wants to make a difference for the better. That's Social Moral to a T.
I also like where everyone got moved to in lieu of me making her social moral, so booyah.
Hope you all enjoy. Feel free to ask me any questions or debate me on my choices.
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It sure is. Thanks for the add!
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I think all the other alignment charts I've seen did only 3x3. You're welcome!
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yeeeah im pretty sure magic man would be chaotic impure
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See, I feel like it's a real tossup between Magic Man and LSP. You could easily interchange them between those two slots. I still like Magic Man for Rebel Impure though, because I feel the 'Rebel' column is for characters whose personality/motives involve going against the majority, whereas 'Chaotic' is based on doing things your own way. Magic Man prides himself on fucking with other people, whereas Lumpy Space Princess just does whatever she wants to do. I think that's evidence for them being where I've put them, but it's just my personal opinion.
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yeah, I guess you're right. And it is your opinion, and I respect that.
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ehh, social moral. there have been many leaders who thought they were doing right throughout history but in the end their actions spoke differently and they created much pain and suffering. Phoebe too would be one of these leaders, if the dam writers would were smart enough to see that. here, read this if you have the time, it will show just how damaging this law she enacted can be.
www.fanfiction.net/s/10264436/…
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Yeah, but that's fanfiction. Just because the writer thinks it would go that way, doesn't mean that's how it would actually go.
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you really think society would not be set into chaos and have insanely negative consequences when an entire nations people are no longer allowed to lie or keep secrets(including the most personal of ones). theres no way such a law would be for the betterment of society.
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Every society is different, especially ones in a fictional world that frequently operates on nonsense logic. But in a broad sense? Yeah, I do think that. Complete transparency, for both the people AND the ruling body, requires people to keep their activities on the up and up, otherwise they'll be ostracized. There may be a rough transition period, yes, but eventually people wouldn't think twice about just doing the right thing, because that's just the common thing to do now. Would there be exceptions? Of course; no society is perfect and people will always have their own agendas.
Think of it this way: notice how in our society, for the most part, we're not all clamoring to take each other's property? That's because at some point laws were made that said taking another person's property was wrong, and you would be punished if you did it. People were pissed at the time, and even today we still have thieves and the like, but the majority of people don't go around stealing things. Because it's been that way for so long. Phoebe's law of no more lying is no different than the law of no stealing back when it was first enacted.
Will it be flawless? No, especially because the deeper politics of Adventure Time will never be explored in depth. And I don't blame the writers for that. It's just a big world in a big show with 11 minute episodes, and politics have never been the focus. I'd love to see more Flame Kingdom, like a "1 year after Phoebe's law" type deal. But the show is fine right now.
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we'll said but in all truth this-is-amazing-work just go's around saying the writers are stupid and saying that they an't make a decent story and even called a crashing plane all because they broke up finn and phoebe,he keeps on making this assumption that phoebes honest kingdom makes her look like a dictator but you brought out a great point but in truth she's done far worse in the first episode she appeared in she turned most of her relatives into weird fire cat creatures,and the episode after that sh burned down the goblin kingdom,look i'm not saying the her transition from noble to empress was well written i'm just saying that what the writers did was fine because it gave more personality to flame princess in my opinion,and he's being an asshole for calling the writers dumbass's sure I can understand that people like a direction a show takes but you don't half to be ass about it
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*shrug* he's entitled to his opinion. I don't plan on replying to his latest comment because there's nothing much left to warrant further debate. And I actually do think there's a lot of legitimate criticisms to be made about the AT writers/way the show is written. There's this great Youtube series called "So This is Basically..." where the guy does a really snarky summary of a TV series, but still in a fun way. Normally he just kinda pokes fun at them, but he absolutely DESTROYED Adventure Time. When it was done I was left just kinda sitting there slack jawed because, technically, he didn't say anything that was untrue.
I still love the show and do think the writing is very well done and intricate. But it's certainly not without flaws.
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yeah its fine to have an opinion and all but he doesn't half to be an asshole about it,and jello apocalypse video was sort of flawed to be honest he sort of just went on tangents that were just made up,things like not continuing plot lines our staying in the status quo and i'll admit the series isn't perfect and thats fine there's no such thing as a perfect story I can get,but everything else was just cruel,in honesty i have my own personal issues with the show
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their is a wide difference between stealing and lying, along with you just conveniently leaving out privacy aka no secrets. no society can run on this type of basis because people can are not as great as we would like to believe. The only type of society that could possibly exist like this is the fictional hive mentality where everyone exists as a hive mind, which the Fire Kingdom is clearly not.
You are looking at things in a very misguided light. People have always been against, stealing. This isn't some new thing that was just recently invented, we were always against this. Besides, stealing is not even close to being the same thing as lying or keeping secrets. Lying is another subject entirely that mixes in with far greater aspects of society then stealing ever would. The matter of the truth is something that is in many instances subjective, what is true for one person can be untrue for another. Take religion for example, under just the no lying part, there would have to be only one true religion in society, anything else would be a lie even if for other people it isn't. This would lead to conflict that would result in the obliteration of one of the sides, the collapse of both, or eternal conflict because both sides believe they are telling the truth and the other is lying. dissenting opinion in any form would not be allowed under this law because it would be seen as a lie.
And like I said before, you conveniently left out the no secrets part aka privacy. no society of people would agree to this, people want their privacy like in the example of a diary or journal, yet they would not be allowed to have this anymore under FPs law. They would be forced to reveal all their secrets, even the most personal which no one else has a right to know like who is a persons crush. Such a thing would lead to collapse as people would not accept that they don't get to have any privacy and would lead to revolt against the tyrant leader.
The show sadly is run by people too stupid too understand just how much they fucked when they did this too FP and will never touch upon the consequences of her actions, which is unfortunate. Sad, because what she did is a very bad thing and should not be brushed under the rug.
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Flame Princess should be more on the evil side. After all, taking away her peoples basic individual rights to keep secrets and lie with her law of total honesty and no secrets all so she doesn't get hurt again is insanely selfish and damaging to society and its people. its no joke or something to ignore how much damage this law would cause.
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Believe it or you actually did make me reassess where Flame Princess goes on this chart, but not in the way you may be thinking. I'll be updating it shortly.
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I see. well I look forward to seeing this update whenever it is made.
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Phoebe's "No Lie" law seems to be passively dismissed as such topic was not adressed again in later episodes and medias (except briefly in lego dimensions). It once again prove the AT writers (lets just say they are a bunch of Ice Kings and/or Martins) are simply incompetent on Phoebe's character development.
But lets be just a little bit optimistic on the 'in-canon' aspect, maybe her extreme law at the beginning or sometime during her reign that caused one or more unpleasant events, which happen to be able to change her mind and thus made reforms. Even if the canon has not addressed this issue yet (probably never will). Some people does change after going through certain things. We just do not know how she changed (let's just say if she have changed) yet.
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yeah, such terrible writing. to treat a huge thing as being a simply forgettable thing is pretty bad.
I would like to believe that, but she really comes off to me as someone who wouldn't be able to see how bad that law is and just make excuses.
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This is why I quit the canon, following it is just a waste of time.
Even so, it is not impossible for Phoebe to change for the better over times. She seems to be more easygoing in later episodes and medias, so perhaps she did realize it was a mistake on making extreme laws in her kingdom at some point. (At least this is what I like to believe since the canon never address this kind of issue)
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look why do you think that this was the worst thing she has one she done far worse for example during the first episode she was introduced in wash turned her relatives into weird cat creatures,and the episode after that she FUCKING BURNED DOWN THE GOBLIN village so yeah,but in all honesty her people are happy they love her they want her as there leader saying it would lead to chaos is just not the truth, she's become a better person this way then just being finn's girlfriend
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understandable.
yeah, I really wish they had addressed this dam issue, yet the stupid writers forgot. its so frustrating when viewers know more about the show then its own fucking writers. such incompetence.
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I've been waiting for someone to make one of these for adventure time. Nice job
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