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People go to countries and continents in need, helping the natives by bringing need food, water, nutrients, and medical attention. That's good. Hell, that's more than good. It's amazing that they're doing that. But then there are those who bring their religion with them like it's a designer purse that they need at all times, glued to their side. They'd rather die than be caught without it.I just think that's wrong. if you're going to go help someone in need, then do just that. Don't bring religion into it. Don't try to convert them and have an ulterior motive to your kindness. Go to their country, doing what you intended to do, give them support and help. But, please, don't do it with a plane ticket to another religion tied to the package.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to ??? [2012-06-09 02:57:33 +0000 UTC]
So you're going to keep trying to prove a point when there's nothing to be proven. The fact you're trying as hard to prove something proves there's nothing to be proven and you can't accept that.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 03:12:11 +0000 UTC]
More like, if I feel as though I sense sincere concern or interest in you, I'll keep rephrasing it till you get it. I've worked with slow people before. I'm infinitely patient.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 03:18:40 +0000 UTC]
I've worked with slow people before too, that's why I've developed a means of teaching others humility, to accept when they're wrong. Although, it's hard for me to help you, when you refuse me.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 03:23:11 +0000 UTC]
Unfortunately you can't help me, because I don't want you to, since you're only in it for yourself. You only help people because you can. That's bullshit. I don't want anything to do with something so selfish.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 07:16:25 +0000 UTC]
Ignore that, just made a side account for side art, didn't realize I was still logged into it. Continue your nonsense through this comment.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 14:09:43 +0000 UTC]
You're confusing your own message with mine.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 19:36:24 +0000 UTC]
Nope, but do answer a question of mine, did you ask for help and someone did help you, but in the process they screwed you over? Because that's the feeling I'm getting from you, with this nonsense you're spouting, there has to be some form of fuckery that has you traumatized to that point where all help is seen as selfish.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 19:50:49 +0000 UTC]
No. No traumatization whatsoever. I help people and people help me. No problem there either. Since you are asking this, you definitely don't "get" what I've been telling you the entire time.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 20:06:19 +0000 UTC]
No, you were traumatized, and I can see this, and so can others, I advise you to see your therapist and talk it out with him, maybe you'll figure out what happened to cause you to think like you do.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 20:24:00 +0000 UTC]
Technicality. Read it, retard.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 20:45:36 +0000 UTC]
I'm going to ask you a series of questions, and answer them truthfully, it'll help find out what's bothering you and disrupting your mindset.
1. Did you have an uncle that (while your parents were out) invited you to play games like "Mole in the Hat", "Find Uncle's Tickle Spots" or "Naptime with Uncle"?
2. This question is very much like question 1, Did you have any neighbors or teachers, or perhaps a bus-driver, maybe even a lunch lady show an extreme amount of interest towards you, which related to after-school activities where you'd meet them at their house to play "games"?
3. Did you ever feel left out by your mother because she didn't give you the attention you craved, or did she give you too much attention, and you couldn't get away?
4. Was your father disappointed in you no matter how good you did? Did he try forcing you to do thing you didn't want to do, like play sports, or exercise continuously?
5. If you had any siblings, did they ask you to help them do mischievous deeds, but afterwards they'd point the finger at you and place the blame on you?
6. Do you have suppressed feelings of attraction towards members of the same sex? It's ok if you do, there's nothing wrong with it.
Please do answer these questions and get back to me as soon as possible, and maybe, we might be able to get to the bottom of your trust issues and fix them right up.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-10 15:21:06 +0000 UTC]
Okie Dokie!
1. No, they weren't very interested in doing things with me in person, though one time, when I was 9 years old, they told me to go play with this Greek woman that they let into my bedroom. She was nice, and she played some weird games with me too, asking me to get nakey with her. 15 years later, the bitch tries to get child support from me. The whore, you know? 4 years after that, I'm arguing with her son on Deviant Art. Oh wait....
2. Yes, we'd often go back to their place to play Sonic 2 on the Sega Genesis, then go out for Pizza, afterwards they dropped me off at my parents house for the day . They were fucking awesome.
3. Neither!
4. He was actually proud of me - he figured I was a man after I busted off a nut inside a Greek bitch and told that bitch off like a boss when she sought compensation.
5. They were always helpful, they never said a word and kept zipped lips about my uncles bringing over a Greek prostitute.
6. Sometimes, I do find my foot being attracted to your ass.
Oh please doctor, diagnose me so that I may finally find out what's wrong with my life!
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-10 20:51:12 +0000 UTC]
I said to answer me honestly, try again. There's obviously something hidden, something that you strive to hide from everyone else as it was so traumatizing that you're convinced help is nothing but selfish. I only wish to correct this mindset that has you so disturbed, and you're not making this easy.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-10 22:04:59 +0000 UTC]
I did answer honestly. How could I be lying when you're right here talking to me right now?
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-10 22:12:10 +0000 UTC]
That's a good question, thank you for proving I'm right about this whole thing then. See how easy that was to do?
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-10 23:30:24 +0000 UTC]
Oh I see, you're playing "opposites" the entire time. What you really meant was that you lost the argument and was wrong, apologizing for having wasted my time, and that it was a hard thing to do. I know buddy, it's tough to admit the truth. But *wink* I'll keep your secret!
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-10 23:34:37 +0000 UTC]
Still trying to win the argument I see, however, I told you, I won already awhile back, I've just been milking you of your comments, so, do you really wish to continue? I mean, I'd love to break the comment barrier, but if you're trying to quit out now, that's fine by me, I've already accepted the win.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-11 00:14:31 +0000 UTC]
There there buddy, stiff upper lip! Keep your chin up and look forward to a brighter tomorrow. Today's loss is tomorrows win! Don't feel so bad.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-11 00:18:04 +0000 UTC]
Hey now, just because you lost, don't try pulling that crap on me, I know how that game goes, it doesn't hide the butthurt like you believe it does. Although, don't stop now, I haven't gotten my full yet.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-11 00:30:25 +0000 UTC]
No seriously dude, dry your tears, this is getting embarassing.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-11 00:35:08 +0000 UTC]
Nope, no turning around on me, I know these tricks, they're straight out of the failtroll book. If you want to try and piss me off, you gotta try harder than that.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-11 02:05:00 +0000 UTC]
*Tries to sneak away as your loud wailing cries starts to attract attention*
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-11 02:10:53 +0000 UTC]
Roleplaying doesn't work either, that just makes you look like an immature twat.
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TheBloodyBestTophat In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 07:14:46 +0000 UTC]
And that's exactly why I wish to help you, you have your facts all messed up and it's surprising how convinced you are that help is only for selfish reasons. I think you need to do some soul searching or something, try and set yourself straight, your entire thought process is fucked and it's kinda sickening you believe this nonsense you spout.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheBloodyBestTophat [2012-06-09 14:09:21 +0000 UTC]
No, you're just a fucking idiot. You failed to realize that I have been arguing from a technical standpoint the entire time, hence why I began the argument stating "TECHNICALLY". Humans operate withing a certain MANDATORY degree (margin if you will) of ignorance, therefore the base desire of an action becomes ignored, and the "thought" or "courtesy" of a helpful deed is acknowledged completely in place of it. Human beings live to reinforce the positive side of something rather than the negative. Why do you think people only say good stuff about people at funerals, when there are cases of people showing up to them only out of necessity? Why do we always want to stamp out hate speech, when we desire freedom of speech (which means you should take the bad with the good)?
For example, if science is to explain everything, then love is nothing more than hormones making you over affectionate towards and driving you to seek another human being. That's "manipulation", "influence", "not entirely of your free will", and therefore, not necessarily interest in that person simply and purely because of them. And regardless of that, you love a person because of what they mean and can do for you. No one falls in love with a complete evil person who has only hatred and contempt for them and does nothing but cause harm and ruin in their life. And even if they did, they probably enjoy all that too, proving again that it was internal benefit that they desired from an external source.
My thought processes are awesome, and you should try it sometime. It's called playing devil's advocate, or in other words, taking the negative side of an argument to prove a point.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 20:04:54 +0000 UTC]
A long wall of text proves nothing, if you do nothing but be pointless.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 20:22:59 +0000 UTC]
If you force yourself to see nothing but pointlessness, you'll never see the proof.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 20:46:16 +0000 UTC]
You have convinced me to help you, help yourself, now if you could, please answer the questions sent to you.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-10 15:09:27 +0000 UTC]
You can't even help yourself bro.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-10 20:52:11 +0000 UTC]
I can help myself, I choose not to. Now, re-answer those questions, and let's get down to the bottom of this.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-10 22:04:30 +0000 UTC]
Just use a word generator or something. You might find something you like in there.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-10 22:10:42 +0000 UTC]
Nope, I prefer a honest answer.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-10 23:35:09 +0000 UTC]
No quotes, no hidden messages, just try again, with honest answers.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-11 00:37:29 +0000 UTC]
Alright then. Keep these comments flowing, I've got all day.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-11 02:06:47 +0000 UTC]
*Wink* Okay, I'll stop, just because you gave the order.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-11 02:10:09 +0000 UTC]
Well, sure if you'd like, but hopefully this experience will teach you next time to come into arguments with actual facts, instead of looking like an idiot who tries to troll when he knows he lost.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to ??? [2012-06-07 04:39:50 +0000 UTC]
Rejecting/dismissing stuff just because you don't agree doesn't make my information false.
Fact - There is no such thing as purity of heart. There's always something in it for someone, be it internal or external, when they do something to help others.
Fact - That something can be seen as selfish. Period.
Fact - You're asking for more despite the fact that they're already helping. This can be seen as "Give them an inch, and they take a mile".
My advice, learn before agreeing with every positive sounding piece of shit message being put out there. There's a negative side to everything. Hopefully you didn't fall for that whole Kony 2012 bullshit - that had a positive message in it too.... how could you possibly go wrong trying to help people .
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-08 11:05:54 +0000 UTC]
I reject your facts as they are far from being factual. And as for the Kony thing, I oppose Invisible Children, and I've always had. Even if Kony is an issue to be dealt with, America has too many issues of it's own, and I believe we should handle ourselves and deal with everyone else later.
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-08 14:35:33 +0000 UTC]
Oh no, don't convince yourself. You've got nothing to back up your claims that what I'm saying isn't factual, while I myself can actually bring up logic and reason to justify and verify my claims.
You help a person in need because you want to. You express a desire to help someone who is in need. YOU are the constant, the person in need is secondary, and not guaranteed to be present. Therefore YOU are fulfilling YOUR wish to help someone else. Regardless of the kindness and generosity displayed, the wholehearted compassion being given, the fact is, on the basic level, you're doing it for you. The only way to help someone without it being to your benefit is to be mentally manipulated (controlled) into doing things, almost like an ant.
And the Kony topic was just one example of some stupid positive message that makes people feel empowered to do a greater good. I could bring up any number of topics with completely positive messages in them that people support stupidly. The end of all war on earth, sanctity of human life, hell, even the attempt to stamp out hate material, all positive messages that are completely stupid stances to support. There's something you support that I can find flaw with, I guaranty it.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-08 14:49:58 +0000 UTC]
Again, just because you claim it's "facts" does not mean that it is in fact, a fact. I've disproved this so-called "fact" already, and so far, you've just proven yourself to be someone attempting to troll. Are we done here or you still trying to press on about how things are "facts" because you claim it to be backed by proof?
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-08 16:37:40 +0000 UTC]
There you go refusing logic once again. I guess you can refuse math too while you're at it.
You haven't disproved anything. All you did was tell stuff from your point of view, whereas I'm not stating anything from simply a viewpoint, I'm being analytical. I'm not claiming anything. No one will ruin themselves to solely benefit another, and even if they did, the satisfaction of doing so is the benefit. Why do you think there's a blurry line between "pleasure and pain"? Because even if you attempt to hurt yourself, you're satisfied in the accomplishment of doing that, so it's "pleasurable" to you. ALL living things pursue pleasure, even suicidal people (the pleasure comes in the form of not having to live anymore). Want/Desire is selfish, period. Even if you want to help someone, that is a want, and therefore selfish. You can't avoid it. PERIOD. You cannot deny this without being absolutely retarded.
It's cool that you want to dismiss stuff, does you no good whatsoever. And the world won't change either, so keep +1'ing and hitting the like button on every single thing you agree with as if it's going to make a difference. Selective hearing is the same as "hard head/soft ass".
As far as us being done here, yeah, we can be done - it's your forfeit. You haven't disproved anything I've said, and everything you've posted after you're first dismissal has been the equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and going "LALALALALALALA", which is fine by me. Your loss.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-08 23:13:29 +0000 UTC]
You're writing a huge paragraph that does nothing but go nowhere. This tells me you've run out of something to argue with and you're just trying to sound like you know what you're talking about. Tell me, does this win any arguments?
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Shen-fn-Woo In reply to TheRealDarkFox13 [2012-06-09 00:17:05 +0000 UTC]
Yes, it does. You're a retard. I was just attempting to rephrase things so that you could understand, but if you're unwilling, you'll never learn. Here's your dunce cap. Wear it with pride.
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TheRealDarkFox13 In reply to Shen-fn-Woo [2012-06-09 00:50:18 +0000 UTC]
Can't be a dunce if I know what I'm talking about. Learn a bit, it'll help you in the future.
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