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These are now an open species so you can make your own! no need to ask to make one and please do not sell them in anyway! you can only give designs away for free!Since so many think it is impossible to make up something new by combining water+dog, I beg to differ. Now stop harrasing others for coming up with something you think is to simple. >:C shoo shooo off my garden, go practice your manners
say hello to Pipevoffs! The ghostly haunting your sinks and water areas. You think its nature freezing your pipes, oh your wrong, these rascals do it for fun. They haunt any liquid, waterbeing most common. They steal your household items aswell.
RENAMED TO PIPEVOFFS (voff is bark in norwegian)
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griffsnuff In reply to ??? [2015-01-20 08:59:00 +0000 UTC]
Then its best to talk to the original artists if you are unsure, though there are some that are more touchy than others. BUT people cannot attack you for using a similar feature. Β SOME WILL no matter what believe me xD Β but just ignore them. LIKE if you made a deer with a water head only, that wouldnt be anything like this but its still an animal+ water , there are so many possibilities xD
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shortbred In reply to ??? [2015-01-20 08:53:30 +0000 UTC]
Aaaa I'm really digging the metal sink/drainage pipes as skeletal structure concept. <333
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Hiaad In reply to ??? [2015-01-20 08:49:37 +0000 UTC]
it's sooooo original because no one has ever done anything like this >W<
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Welshen [2015-01-20 08:46:46 +0000 UTC]
Wow you're making me feel very uncomfortable and inadequate.
So because you're a great character designer I cannot in any way do anything similar to anything you've ever made in case someone sees it, because I'm not imaginative enough?
Or am I completely missing your point? The fact that I can pretty much completely copy this design excluding the faucet and NOT commit a crime, at least I hope that's what you're saying.
Because that's what people are getting bullied out of their accounts for even -explaining-. Basically your point seems to be taken to heart by BOTH sides and I cannot determine which you're aiming for.
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griffsnuff In reply to Welshen [2015-01-20 08:55:35 +0000 UTC]
You cant blame others for having a different skillset than you. Its not their fault you think differently. If you cannot come up with something without having to take an already existing design and remove one simple feature to make your own designs then maybe you should sit down and hone your skills? its what all artists does, they practice to get better at things.
My point is if you say took that faucet and puit it on a rabbit and had a character named faucet head, that would be your own creaton inspired by this, but compeltely different. It is not hard to design if you put your mind to it, and its not hard to stop hating on others for using simple ideas and being afraid you will make something similar. There will always be assholes out there saying you copy shit no matter how original you try to be. I cant count the times people say my things remind them of this or that but thats just how some are xD DONT judge everyone else because of it.
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Welshen In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 09:16:02 +0000 UTC]
You misunderstood.
Legally I -can- do it. 90% of your fanbase thinks I -CAN'T-.
I'm questioning why they think this? Sure it can piss you off if I did, but I'm well withing my rights to do so without being -threatened-.
I don't need to hone my skills. I'm drawing for fun. If I made money of my Art, that wouldn't hurt you. My art, your art. yeh
Now if I saved your drawings and sold them, that'd be bad yes. But drawing a similar thing is in fact not even close to bad. Except for like friendships, "I don't wanna be friends with you, you copy my art!"?
But that doesn't matter, even if I put that faucet in the butt of a dragon, someone will claim it's a ripoff of your WD?
And then they'll link to the Sushidog trademarks as proof. This mindset is so incredibly weird. And they refer to "I spoke to the species maker and they're so upset so don't support 'fakes'"
Where does this mindset come from? I believe it's from these spoofs for example.
"I can make unique designs that doesn't look close to someone else's! Now stop your Copying!!!"
I mean why would they have to stop anyway? It wouldn't hurt you, like fanart etc.
I love my characters I've bought from you, it wouldn't matter if someone made near identical copies, because they can never be what mine are. They're made by you.
Hence I COULD buy from a copy maker, but I don't WANT to. Isn't that what branding is all about?
I COULD go to burger king but I PREFER McD. Usually McD Won't market themselves by how similar Burger King is, as that might make them look bad/evil.
I'm just maybe you could explain just as well what constitutes copyright infringment, while you're doing these?? Sure I can make original things but I don't -have to legally-.
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griffsnuff In reply to Welshen [2015-01-20 09:21:55 +0000 UTC]
Like I said, it is completely up to you if you want to be disrespectfull or not. If its more important to you to copy to have something and make people dislike you xD be my guest. Its not to hard to respect what people want and not. Choose your battles is all I say.
So what if someone claim its a rippoff of me? SO WHAT. What matters is what I say since I was the original creator xD you should stop being so bothered by what everyone else say.
Your overreacting over something that you dont even need to worry about. You cant change assholes or people why say shit to hurt you, they will be like that no matter what.
This has nothing to do with the law, its just has to do with being respecrfull or not. That is a choice anyone has. I choose to have common resepct for my fellow artists.
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Welshen In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 09:32:59 +0000 UTC]
I'm so confused.
I was using it as examples, but clearly I couldn't make my point understood.
Hopefully you will understand this. I have no plans of ripping YOU or anyone else OFF.
I want people to EDUCATE themselves and not end up being reported to the POLICE for online bullying, slander and harassment.
The law doesn't support whiteknights. The law does support those being bullied, on either side.
Your word doesn't mean aything, compared to the law.
HYPOTHETICAL THEORY here:
The creator of Said waterdog with faucet on it's head - you "What matters is what I say since I was the original creator xD"
Say in a journal, deviation or anything else that MYΒ brand or more offhandedly THE DINO with a buttfaucet is just another ripoff.
I get tons of hate messages and loss of sales. I could Sue you. For destroying my business with slander.
END HYPOTHETICAL THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.
I'm worried about someone creating a species or design and going so overboard protecting it they end up in court.
"but the species creator said they didn't like it so you can go die!!" This person -should- be charged with death threats etc.
It has everything to do with the law.
Like you said, assholes saying 'you can't do this closed species thing drop down and die' should be reported to the police.
It doesn't have anything to do with respectfulness or not.
Crimes should be reported to the police.
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Welshen In reply to PowersIave [2015-01-20 14:08:03 +0000 UTC]
Sure thing, mr Lawyer-san
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griffsnuff In reply to Welshen [2015-01-20 09:37:37 +0000 UTC]
NO ONE IS GOING TO BE REPORTED TO THE POLICE OH MY GOD CALM DOWN XD (irony with caps)
Stop being so friggin afraid of something that has no real matter and making such drama out of it oh my god.
ITS NOT ABOUT THE LAW I already told you that
you know what I am just going to stop trying to talk to you because your bending everything into some dramatic event that it isnt.
If someone asks someone to please not use their idea its up to you if you do or not. If you respect that person, you wont use it. If you respect them but want to do something similar, you sit down and make sure you make it your own version. if said person is ok with it then its all fine, if they throw a fit at you, you either A: talk to them about it and find a solution to why they are having a fit, and maybe you both can work it out. B: SEe that the fit is nothing more than a fit and ignore it. C: realise that you might have stepped over the line and agree to change a few things. OR YOU totally ignore said persons request and be a disrespectfull artist. THE END XD IF THATS TO HARD TO UNDERSTAND please get someoen else to explain itto you , I dont have time.
I have in none of my 10 years here had anyone including the police over dissagreement in features on art so calm dA herptiderpti down.
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Velkss In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 10:06:33 +0000 UTC]
Β Β
WELL SAID
It is all a matter of respect indeed.
I do not see how they got the police involved in here xD
' Police throwing millions of screaming DA kids in jail because
the person reported them with the words: Β 'Β
' SHE TRIED TO STEAL MY OC IM CRYING
LOOK
SHE STOLE MY FEATHER ACCESSORY 'Β
that just popped up in my head oh my god :'D
I just had to :'D
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Welshen In reply to Velkss [2015-01-20 11:07:27 +0000 UTC]
Nah, if you are a victim of bullying to such extremes as recieving death threats you should report it to the police. (Which apparently was the case)
Slander/Libel is also illegal, and is what most species creators end up with (ie targeting a person copying your design and calling them names and/or ruining their reputation.)
I'm confused how it can be translated to "any argument" When I specifically say threats. Good luck.
"Defamationβalso calumny, vilification, and traducementβis the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual person, business , product , group , government , religion , or nation . Most jurisdictions allow legal action to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism."
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griffsnuff In reply to Velkss [2015-01-20 10:25:51 +0000 UTC]
Me neither, somehow I think they were out to quarrle no matter what.
xDDD
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Welshen In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 11:07:31 +0000 UTC]
Nah, if you are a victim of bullying to such extremes as recieving death threats you should report it to the police. (Which apparently was the case)
Slander/Libel is also illegal, and is what most species creators end up with (ie targeting a person copying your design and calling them names and/or ruining their reputation.)
I'm confused how it can be translated to "any argument" When I specifically say threats. Good luck.
"Defamationβalso calumny, vilification, and traducementβis the communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of an individual person, business , product , group , government , religion , or nation . Most jurisdictions allow legal action to deter various kinds of defamation and retaliate against groundless criticism."
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griffsnuff In reply to Welshen [2015-01-20 11:15:29 +0000 UTC]
xD your not done are you, I WAS NOT talking about deaththreaths or bullying. You kept bringing that up and avoiding things I said. and your still bringing it up
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Welshen In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 11:19:22 +0000 UTC]
You were the one that brought up threats to stop doing a species or doing something you like? Not me.
I said that if it was such a big problem, instead of pointing out people in a journal that can get you into trouble legally for libel. You either report them to the police or it wasn't that bad so it shouldn't have been made a journal to begin with.
And I'm pretty sure when it's so grossly misunderstood I should explain myself?
Nowhere did I said any argument should be reported to the police, yet that seems to be what both of you saw.
Your very deviation about this literaly state it's about bullying and harassing others for similar concepts.
I can't believe this
"I am getting so sick and tired of these gangs of kids on here going around harrasing anyone who creates something simple. I dont even know what da hell is wrong with someone to even do these kinds of things. Gross behavior, and its a shame to see so many join in and think its totally fine. You are all acting like bullies, your ganging up on others who has nothing to do with it. I hope your happy with yourself. Ihope I am not the only one who find this behaviour to be extremely immature. " < bullying. Your point. My questioning.
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PikachuLover2012 In reply to Welshen [2015-01-20 22:19:41 +0000 UTC]
I think you're missing griifsnuff's point of the moth+dog deviation. What she is saying there is you can take a simple concept and make it your own thing, and that there are many variations you can make out of the same concept. Just because a "popular" artist has used a concept for a species they made, doesn't mean you can't make your own variation of the concept. If someone wants to make a mouse+plant species, they have have a right to make one as long as it's not a carbon copy of someone else's. Don't let well-known species owners limit your imagination.
And why are you bringing up reporting the police about people giving death threats? You're bringing up something that has nothing to do with griffsnuff's point on making different variations of a simple concept. Just ignore/block the people who are harassing you. Most dA people who are doing that are just children who don't yet understand copyright laws. Do you really want to report children to the police for not fully understanding something? They'll learn as they grow(at least I hope they will). If you're so afraid of people harassing you/giving you death threats for making a species based on a concept someone else has used, then don't make one at all. It's plain simple. Stop making such a big deal out of this.Β
And if you don't understand/ignore everything I just said to you, then forget it. Β
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Welshen In reply to PikachuLover2012 [2015-01-21 00:31:18 +0000 UTC]
No I completely understood the deviation and the point. I was questioning the discussion point that was brought up. I'll try to make this as clear as I can, english isn't my primary language, so feel free to ask if something seems fuzzy.
"I am getting so sick and tired of these gangs of kids on here going around harrasing anyone who creates something simple. I dont even know what da hell is wrong with someone to even do these kinds of things. Gross behavior, and its a shame to see so many join in and think its totally fine. You are all acting like bullies, your ganging up on others who has nothing to do with it. I hope your happy with yourself. I hope I am not the only one who find this behaviour to be extremely immature. "
To start with your second point. Harassment is an offense, and should be reported to dA or the police depending on severity. "U suck" < block, "I will rip your head off" < dA, "I'll send a bomb to your house!!" + repeated threats < Police
NOW, before you go "BUT KIDS" okay, the common solution for say a species creator is to make a journal and make a subtle /direct fingerpoint and/or threats. Which is a form of defamation (since a copied design isn't illegal, you can't call someone a thief because that would be a lie). Unfortunately it won't really change anything to just say stop harassing people, just like it doesn't help saying stop uploading stolen artworks. That is why dA has features to help you.
And yes, since a lot of adoptables and or breeds, say SushiDogs are actually turned into business, if you hurt their sales by claiming they sell fakes or is a thief, they can sue you for the damage by customer loss.
And back to the first point. Yes, you can make endless varieties, and it may suck to be copied. However if your response to it is to -defame, libel- like I explained above with fingerpointing and revenue loss^
Then you could get in serious trouble. (and a lot of these 'kids' lie about copyright laws, thinking species may be copyrighted etc to harass people)
"If someone wants to make a mouse+plant species, they have have a right to make one as long as it's not a carbon copy of someone else's. Don't let well-known species owners limit your imagination."
This is where I think you must have misunderstood me.
Unfortunately, it's not illegal to create a near carbon copy. What's copyright protected is your -drawing- not necessarily the species in it.
If you have a character in a forest, and someone else makes a near identical character in a near identical forest, you can probably claim copyright infringment.
Just having a character standing, is not really enough. Especially not with simple combinations such as water+dog, food+dog, etc.
However anyone can in fact create and earn money off similar designs, that's legal. And fact is, the journals calling them thiefs/liars/scammers are actually breaking the law.
If you don't like someone copying you, essentially all you can do about it is just not look at it. (if you threaten with 'no one should buy from you because they're copies and I'll let them know about it' then yeah that is an actual threat to a person's business)
(And I can imagine 90% of the harassment both ways is in the name possibly. Calling a species Waterdog is just bound to be confusing when others make waterdogs, making it confusing if you're getting a WD or a wd, lol. Similar branding so to speak.)
Let me know if something seems odd! ^^
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PikachuLover2012 In reply to Welshen [2015-01-23 07:41:49 +0000 UTC]
""I am getting so sick and tired of these gangs of kids on here going around harrasing anyone who creates something simple. I dont even know what da hell is wrong with someone to even do these kinds of things. Gross behavior, and its a shame to see so many join in and think its totally fine. You are all acting like bullies, your ganging up on others who has nothing to do with it. I hope your happy with yourself.Β I hope I am not the only oneΒ who find this behaviour to be extremely immature. "
I'm pretty sure griffsnuff was talking about children who don't know any better.Β
"To start with your second point. Harassment is an offense, and should be reported to dA or the police depending on severity. "U suck" < block, "I will rip your head off" < dA, "I'll send a bomb to your house!!" + repeated threats < Police"
Death threats aren't as common here as they are on sites like Tumblr. Over there are people that send anonymous hate/death threats/rape threats 24/7 and the staff hardly does anything about it. Here, there's no anonymous feature so you know who's sending the death threats and report it to dA staff. There's no need to call the police unless they're doing it constantly.Β
"NOW, before you go "BUT KIDS" okay, the common solution for say a species creator is to make a journal and make aΒ subtle /direct fingerpoint and/or threats. Which is a form of defamation (since a copied design isn't illegal, you can't call someone a thief because that would be a lie).Β
Just because you're allowed to copy someone's closed species, that doesn't mean you should. Law or not, it's still disrespectful to the species artists. I don't care if you disagree.
"And back to the first point. Yes, you can make endless varieties, and it may suck to be copied. However if your response to it is to -defame, libel- like I explained above with fingerpointing and revenue loss^
Then you could get in serious trouble. (and a lot of these 'kids' lie about copyright laws, thinking species may be copyrighted etc to harass people)"
REAL LIFE species can't be copyrighted, but made-up species like Mantibabs and Fumi Dragons can be copyrighted.Β
"Unfortunately, it's not illegal to create a near carbon copy. What's copyright protected is your -drawing- not necessarily the species in it.
If you have a character in a forest, and someone else makes a near identical character in a near identical forest, you can probably claim copyright infringment."
Yes, but it's still disrespectful. Again, if you want to make a species based on an idea/concept someone else used, take the idea/concept and make your own version. Make it completely different and unique from so-and-so's closed species. It's okay to be inspired by someone's species, but don't outright make a copy of it(name, appearance, etc.). It's not about the law, it's about respecting other artists.Β
"Just having a character standing, is not really enough. Especially not with simple combinations such as water+dog, food+dog, etc.
However anyone can in fact create and earn money off similar designs, that's legal. And fact is, the journals calling them thiefs/liars/scammers are actually breaking the law."
Those people are scammers/thieves/liars. They're taking someone's closed species, selling them for profit, and claiming they made them. How are species owners breaking the law? They're making those journals to WARN people about scammers selling cheap rip-offs of their closed species that they've put a lot of time and effort into. If they're "breaking the law", they'd be in jail already, wouldn't they? Are you gonna report the police on them?Β
"If you don't like someone copying you, essentially all you can do about it is just not look at it. (if you threaten with 'no one should buy from you because they're copies and I'll let them know about it' then yeah that is an actual threat to a person's business)"
Or you can report it to the staff. Copying/tracing/stealing is against dA's rules.Β
"(And I can imagine 90% of the harassment both ways is in the name possibly. Calling a species Waterdog is just bound to be confusing when others make waterdogs, making it confusing if you're getting a WD or a wd, lol. Similar branding so to speak.)"
That I have to agree with. "Waterdog" is too general of a name to call a water+dog closed species. Maybe if Alfeddy came up with a more original species name than "Waterdog", it'd be less confusing for people who want to make water+dog characters.Β
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Welshen In reply to PikachuLover2012 [2015-01-23 11:35:03 +0000 UTC]
Yes, and I was asking who it referred to, since apparently, a lot of species owners make their living off their design sales. I did not get a response to this.
Just googling Death threats on Deviantart comes up with a lot of results, clearly it does happen a lot - unfortunately! (and there's a reason some make new accounts, just like anon pm on tumblr)
ex.
"Just because you're allowed to copy someone's closed species, that doesn't mean you should. Law or not, it's still disrespectful to the species artists. I don't care if you disagree."
"REAL LIFE species can't be copyrighted, but made-up species like Mantibabs and Fumi Dragons can be copyrighted. " Those two statements don't line up, which did you mean?
No they cant. (Only the drawings of them can) Much like sushi dogs they can be trademarked though! And it would be a lot easier to stop someone from advertising their species as 'sushidogs' legally when they're TM.
Copying is not against dA policies. (Clearing up my definitions of the difference just in case, copying would be someone drawing something similar, but not tracing. Tracing is well tracing their picture. Stealing is saving their picture and uploading it as your own.)
Usually you wouldn't go to jail, but be fined etc. And just because it doesn't happen doesn't mean it's legal.
Just like when dA doesn't take down traced/stolen artworks, doesn't mean they think it's okay/legal or that others should continue to do it.
"Those people are scammers/thieves/liars. They're taking someone's closed species, selling them for profit, and claiming they made them."
Well if they were tracing/stealing, then yes. If they simply making a copy and naming it similarly, then no. It might be rude, but being rude isn't illegal or worthy of harassment. If it's a mistake of branding, then a TM claim can be made.
Kind of like when you wear a nice outfit, and then someone copies you. It would suck and you might not want to be friends/talk to them, but telling others not to like them or that they're thieves, just because of that is bullying/slander.
(Unfortunately it's not just the clear ripoffs that get the treatment though. It's really subjective in the species owners eyes of what is a ripoff or not. That's why I took offense, Saying I shouldn't care what others think, that if a species owner would point me out in a journal because they dislike something I did/do - True, but I asked if it could be included that accusing someone of stealing, when they're not - is worse than 'copying' someone. And someone MIGHT get in serious trouble for it. Or even just explain copyright in general. =/ )
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PikachuLover2012 In reply to Welshen [2015-01-23 18:37:09 +0000 UTC]
"What is Copyright Infringement?
To simplify this question, copyright infringement occurs when you do certain things with a creative work which someone else produced without first getting the proper permission.
Some examples of copyright infringement (this is only a partial listing) can include:
- Placing someone else's photograph or creative work online without proper permission.
- Using a creative work commercially without permission.
- Adapting someone else's creative work found in one medium to another medium, such as making a book into a movie or a photograph into a painting.
- Modifying or editing a creative work without proper permission."
"How Can I Avoid Infringing on Someone's Copyright?
The best way to avoid infringing on the rights of another creative person is to use your skill, talent and imagination to create your own completely original work. When we use the word 'original' we don't mean that you must come up with an idea which hasn't been used before - recall that copyright does not protect ideas. When used in reference to copyright "original" means that you created your work without referencing or deliberately copying anyone else's work during the process.
Ensure that all parts of your work, both visual and audio, are your own original creations. If you have used materials which are owned by other people or companies make certain that you have obtained proper permission or licensing for the use before you place your work online."
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These were copy/pasted from deviantART's Copyright Policy. So, if people deliberately copy someone's closed species for whatever reason(such as making profit) without the owner's permission, they are infringing their work. They didn't ask if they could use the species owner's idea/work. They just go off and make their own/sell fakes/whatever. This is the most rude and disrespectful thing anyone can do.
The people who are sending death threats/hate comments to the person copying the owner's closed species, are the fans fault(most of the time). Some species owners handle theft/copying Β by talking with the person privately, without their "white-knights" interference. The species owners who do send their "white-knights" at them are immature kids who need to learn how to handle simple situations more maturely. Species owners can't control what their fans do and/or say. Don't generalize all species owners to be "GUYS SOMEONE COPIED MY SPECIES GO TELL THEM TO DIE!!1!".Β
This is deviantART. An art website where artists share their work and/or ideas and expect others to respect their work and follow the rules. No, copying, no tracing, no stealing, etc. It's about being respectful.Β Just because you're allowed to copy someone because the law say's you can, doesn't mean you should.Β We are following dA's rules. Government rules don't apply here, only OUTSIDE of dA.Β If somebody copies someone's work, they are breaking the rules. Simple as that. Stop making such a big deal out of something you don't even have to worry about. You can completely ignore closed species all together if it bothers you so much.Β
That's all I'm going to say on the matter. Comment about the law all you want, but don't expect me to reply.Β If you don't understand that this is about respecting people's species and not the law, then forget it.Β I am done talking with you. I have more important things to do. Good day.Β
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griffsnuff In reply to Welshen [2015-01-20 11:21:09 +0000 UTC]
No matter what I say to you your only going to quarrle I am again done xD
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MorbidHorrors In reply to ??? [2015-01-20 08:42:14 +0000 UTC]
oh my gosh these are super cute!
ahh i really want one of these cuties!~
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Mr-Scarlet-Nokitsune [2015-01-20 08:39:04 +0000 UTC]
Loving your take on water+dog concepts.
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griffsnuff In reply to Mr-Scarlet-Nokitsune [2015-01-20 08:40:20 +0000 UTC]
I bet there is super many amazing concepts just waiting to be used by combining them. xD
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Mr-Scarlet-Nokitsune In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 08:41:28 +0000 UTC]
There is, people just get hung up on the beachdog/waterdog ones to forget about the many possibilities out there.
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griffsnuff In reply to Mr-Scarlet-Nokitsune [2015-01-20 08:42:14 +0000 UTC]
Excactly, why do so many think that there is only possible to create one version of a description xDD
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Mr-Scarlet-Nokitsune In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 08:48:24 +0000 UTC]
Because popular = idea is already done and if you make a different take on it ur naht original.
Water dogs were done back in the 1990s in cartoons. For example here's a "water dog" darkwingduck.wikia.com/wiki/Thβ¦
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Piichu-Pi In reply to ??? [2015-01-20 08:35:54 +0000 UTC]
Now that is a true cuddle puddle and I love it~!
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NautiIus In reply to ??? [2015-01-20 08:35:20 +0000 UTC]
Amg loks liek waterdoge UR NOT ALOWD TO MAEK ONE!!!!!!111onetwothree
Joking aside :'D It's not impossible, no. Aquamutts sound a bit like Water Doges so I thought out a name that sounds nothing like it; Basin Barkers! Agh, I'm bad with names. And, tbh it sounds nothing like Water Doges, but people tend to make up things.
Looks awesome, regardless!
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 08:40:48 +0000 UTC]
BASIN BARKERS HAHA that is epic
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 09:46:31 +0000 UTC]
Yes My brainfarts are usually either hilarious or just plain lame.
But I also made a take on that combining dogs and water :3 There are so many ideas hnng!
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 10:05:48 +0000 UTC]
8D oooooooooooooooooooooooh complete water!! omg i love that hair wtf <3
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 10:23:46 +0000 UTC]
Yis! ;w; Every time someone says water and dog, I think of a dog made completely out of water. So I thought like hey! What if.. we made an underwater ghost.. that mimics drown pirates and haunts shrunken ships! Sound kinda cruel, but same time adorable :'D
I always think of dreadlocks when I think of a pirate that's not a captain, for some reason. Maybe because Pirates of the Caribbean(even if Jack is a captain) :'D
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 10:25:08 +0000 UTC]
8D yes thats pretty cool! love the description you gave it to! and made it look all piratey! that should be the secondary trait of them, make them look all piratey xD
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 11:04:57 +0000 UTC]
Tbh, I'm dead scared of deep waters (especially sea), but sea related things are awesome when I'm not looking at them infront of me irl. Like.. I love sea creatures, but I'm dead scared of sea itself. (Too many documentaries while I was a toddler).
And yeah :'D They could mainly adapt form of a passenger rather than a pirate, but some of the toughest guys adapt a form of a sinking pirate ship pirates. And they're like the tough guys from all these dogs, all yarr we live in a pirate ship with heaps of gold! While the others live in sunken passenger ships. This whole idea is starting to inspire me, tbh.
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 11:16:14 +0000 UTC]
SAME but for a really weird reason, I AM TERRIFIED of heights xD and since the sea is so deap that is what scares me BUT SINCE I DONTsee down through the water its fine, its way worse if I can see the bottom and its only 3-4 meters under me xDDDDD
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 11:28:11 +0000 UTC]
For me it's like.. I can go to short water, I can splash around there, but I can't go anywhere where the water is above my waist. (I remember when I was a kid, I saw nightmares of our summer cottage :'D Like I was splasing in the shore water when a giant shark started chasing me and tried to eat me. A giant shark. In a lake in middle Finland. Doesn't sound very realistic)
Swimming pools are alright as there's totally no way there could be anything there I can't see. But lakes and sea make me iffy, because I know for fact that there is a chance there could be something unexpectable at the bottom of the lake/sea. (I still believe in sea monsters, yes. One reason I'm a bit iffy with long ship trips too :'D )Β
Like.. in our summer cottage, there's long beach-type short water area, then suddenly it's like a cliff to very tall water. Hrrrrrngh.. I've walked my way to that edge with my brothers a few times, but I'm always scared of it. They always swim to the rock a bit further by the tall water and climb to it. And I'm always like " ;___; ... I'll go to the sauna now bye"
And heights, hnng! ;__; I'm always afraid of falling because I have a bad ankle that makes my balance terrible. (Those tons of dreams where you slowly lose your balance while about to fall, ugh)
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 11:36:56 +0000 UTC]
fuuuu omg thats no fun!
and falling sucks, :C here in winter it gets so slippery its almost impossible to not slip xD hurts my back so bad at times
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 11:43:34 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, same here. D: The worst is, I don't have winter boots. I only have my leathery heels(Kinds like normal leather shoes, but with thick back heels). But I manage :'D I guess there's something good in this stupid ankle, I'm always cautious with my balance. Last time I slipped and fell was winter 2012. I might slip, but I manage to gather myself right before I fall, hahah. Though it's been super icy here lately. And my boyfriend keeps cursing like "I wish it was late April now so the snow and ice would melt!". He really doesn't like snow.Β
Though, the last time I slipped, my back ached for a week or so. Didn't like going the same road to school ever again when it was slippery, rather went another road.Β
I do love snow, though. It makes the temperature feel a bit warmer, unless it's boosted with freezing wind.
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 11:50:21 +0000 UTC]
yeah its good to be cautios! just incase xD falling is no fun!
Dx yes same I slipped and fell down a stone stairs :C i had the biggest bruise xDDΒ
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 11:57:34 +0000 UTC]
Agh, I hate falling down stairs D: It feels terrible.. even more so if you have audience. I remember once at Junior High, I was walking down the library stairs (We had "no shoes"-rule for the whole building); then I just slipped and slided all the way down the long stairs. When I realized what happened, there was a big group of Japanese visitors there, all gasping and staring at lonely me. I quickly picked up myself and my bag and went "I'm alright I'm alright I'm alright!" and walked away swiftly. One of the most awkward days at school of my whole life.Β
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 11:58:20 +0000 UTC]
Β xD OMG that sounds horrible
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-20 12:01:12 +0000 UTC]
Yes! Especially as that was the first day of those visitors. If it wasn't enough that I dressed up as if I was cosplaying some video game character back then, it's because I made such an epic slide down the stairs they kept staring at me every time they noticed me along the week. I think one of them even kept waving at me every time they noticed me.
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griffsnuff In reply to NautiIus [2015-01-20 21:31:31 +0000 UTC]
xD aw maybe they liked you for brining something interesting to their day
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NautiIus In reply to griffsnuff [2015-01-21 01:46:37 +0000 UTC]
:'D Or maybe I went past the awkward levels of the Japanese and they liiked it. I don't know. Or then it looked epic
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