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Published: 2015-04-03 02:38:20 +0000 UTC; Views: 17210; Favourites: 617; Downloads: 0
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before you start tripping on assumptions readyO!Since there is waaay to much assumption going around about this whole deal, here let me write it.
Griff is here to stay, Momentian is NOT a april fools, I started it because I was treaded really crappy by someone who called themselves a therian which I had no idea what was.
I do feel like I am something else at times, is it permanatnt? NO, does that mean my movement is a joke and mocking those who have a more perminant issue? NO
HAve I ever written that I am mocking therians or other types of same? NO
so please stop saying I am. sTop assuming I am, assumption is not facts. Assuming I am meaning this or that is just your subjective view and not fact
I use laughter to get used to new ideas, thats how I am, and if you do not like that, I cannot change you, but you can choose how you react and be a mature person and not talk down on me and ecpecuially not call my watchers gullable because they do not agree with your conspiracy.
Have you never ever felt like a deer w
SO I am not welcome as a Therian because I do not fulltime feel like a fox :C I am bashed, outcasted and thrown out for not being good enough and not being pure in who I feel I am.
I dont feel like a fox fulltime :'C but this spring I just felt more lively and happy and swift as a fox so it fits me to be one right now, why is that so wrong? why am I getting hate for that, are there rules to how long you have to have felt you were one before you can be one. Who wants to be apart of a community that spites those who are different.
I sometimes feel like a pig... Isometimes do when I dont want to shower and just lay back and munch on goodies, I sometimes am a jackdaw, free as a bird and inspired to travel. But they do not last forever because my soul is open and inspired to take on more than one set path.
why am I rejected for being who I am.
therefor I am gonna start a new movement.
Momentians
We who feel the spirit of another in a breif moment and connects deeply to that.
We who know the world is connected to all things, even objects.
I sometimes get so angry I feel like a door slamming, I feel the wood cry from the tree it once was.
;w;
To never recject another soul again! Momentian power! Together we stand, together we are free and together we are open!
we now has flag
not only are we hated because we are our own but there is also discrimination when it comes to what we can be that will and wont be hated on :C
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If I feel like a wolf when I am walking through the woods or a cat when looking and deducting things or a dragon when I feel as if I have a lot of power at that moment. Does that make me a therian?
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I am a therian and I recently awakened and so far the community seems so nice, I don't understand why anyone would be so rude. I think you and you only are allowed to say what makes up your soul, and therians shouldn't tell others that they are invalid because we often get told that ourselves. I hope you meet some more accepting people soon
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Nice picture! Would you be interested in joining my Therian Kingdom group?
I've found your work under a "therian" search results. If you're not a therian I am certainly sorry to bother you.
However, if you are a therianthrope then please PM me once you feel like joining the group.
Don't comment on the group's page please. It's mainly for questions or otherwise at the moment.
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Daaaang you had to deal with some crazy shiiz man :,D
I just stumbled across all this, just browsing Google xD
This is my first time ever hearing those terms..
And the weirdest thing I've ever seen people getting butthurt over..
Idek how to really properly respond to this xD
You got your beliefs they have theirs , even if yours was intended to be a joke , there are worse things for people to worry about..
Like their mental health which getting all angry probably wasn't helping that..
But
I actually really like the group you made! It seems more acceptable!
XD
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I am so very confused wh people are upset saying you hate otherkins. I don't see that at all o__o"
I only see you trying to explain people your view on stuff.
And I think it' great.
Someties I feel like a lazy cat in the sun and a goat when I climb on rocks etc.
So I don't get what upset people .___ "
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xD they just want to be angry
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Excuse me?
You met a troll.
Not all otherkin want to be angry, you just met a troll and they bashed you. I don't even know where you met them, but would you like it if I said that momentians should be thrown in a cage with no internet?
Even if you don't like us otherkin, you don't have to be rude. Otherkin are kind souls and we accept all types of otherkin and therians even if you only feel like a fox every so often.
Edit,
ALSO, ONE PERSON DOES NOT EQUAL THE WHOLE GROUP.
thats like saying because one man did not like you that all men do not like you.
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xD they are not a troll, but I would like to see you say that to them.
And I wouldnt care if you said that?? why should I xD you can say that all you want, I am not going to shut you up because I disagree with you or talk down to you because we dont like the same things
Im not that kind of person xD
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Trust me, they're a troll.
also, one person does not equal the entire community. That's like saying because one man hates you that all men hate you.
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haha its not just one its half of the ones claiming to be therian so far. I have already said I feel really bad for those who are that and doesnt act like asshats xD
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Then those people aren't true therians 
I'm sorry you got treated that way!
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No need to apologize! I dont judge you ^^
They were acting like that because they thought shit was directed at them when it wasnt x3 and then I was said to make fun of mentally ill people for some reason.
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Most 'therians' classify themselves as mentally ill. It's really dumb!
I hope that you found happiness in the momentian movement though!
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what upsets people is that in a note, griff said something along the lines of
"otherkin should only be in nature and not have internet lol"
which is honestly disgusting
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True that. She met a troll, otherkin would never treat anyone normally like that.
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Oh now I understand! I was having a brief moment of difficulty distinguishing between Therian and Momentarian. I like this, it's a nice idea.
I am momentarian now. Not to mention it lines up with my religion so bonus yay!
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im still confused af some people are saying this whole thing is just a huge inside joke between griff and jen but?? i dont even know? like what
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I am awfully confused too? Like I never saw if either Griff or Jen said it was a joke about Otherkin or Therians? And quite frankly if this is serious than I don't care lol
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I understand that you have good intentions, but this is going a bit too far.
A couple therians= all therians? I'm sorry but I don't understand that. That's kinda like saying that one guy was mean to you, and then going out and saying that all men are mean to women. It sounds like Tumblr patriarchy (which is very biased by the way.)
Either way, I like the idea of your group.
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You made a flag for this group of lunatics who think they're animals sometimes? You, uhh... you serious right now? You kidding me? Is this some kinda joke that I'm not in on? My great grandfather didn't get four bronze stars in the military for this.
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Creating a title for yourself when you were shunned from a mainstream group because you didn't fit exactly isn't a joke.
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Well not in a literal sense.
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Not really. I'm not sure how it would be a joke in any sense. If you could explain it to me, maybe I'd understand, but you're not doing anything to explain.
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Well you see, transgender dysphoria can be explained through hormonal imbalances. However, the very idea of otherkin has no basis in any scientific research and has only recently appeared with the advent of the internet and Tumblr and other such sites. Tumblr is the worst offender, being the very definition of a hug box and allowing anyone to think whatever ridiculous and possibly destructive thoughts they want to regarding their psyche. It's fucking hogwash.
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well. gender has nothing to do with being otherkin. so like, yanno thats irrelevant?
its not supossed to have any scientific basis. its a spiritual belief, just like any other belief. ( you dont bash catholics for their belief that the bread and wine becomes literal blood and body of Christ, no?)
also, the use of the word 'otherkin' in this context has been happening since like 1990, and the concept of therians has been around for ages, surely before technology.
also shut the fuck up about your grandfather. stop acting high and mighty because he did some shit in war.
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Well Catholicism has an official document that dictates what it means to be Catholic, whereas an otherkin can believe whatever the fuck they say they believe.
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so?? there's nothing wrong with that? just because the beliefs dont have a set of strict rules, doesnt mean that you shouldnt respect them.
also fyi, at least otherkin dont have any fucked up rules/beliefs, like alot of major religions do (aka the catholic dogma)
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Well an official document is helpful, otherwise anyone can do anything in the name of their beliefs and there doesn't exist anything to refute them.
Also using question marks like this makes you look like an obnoxious idiot???
At least Catholics don't do shit like this:
static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Othe…
And this
i.imgur.com/WMxVpJ1.png
And this too:
static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Woof…
But yea I guess Catholics have some pretty crazy beliefs too. Don't murder, don't steal, don't commit adultery, love thy neighbor. I mean what if your neighbor is some privileged cishet?
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why would u need to refute these people.
honestly griffsnuff is the most obnoxius idiot on this site so
the only one that is ACTUALLY harmful is the second. but you know people make "troll otherkin blogs" and say shit like "species appropriation" to make us look horrible.
How about that the leader of the catholic church compared us to nuclear weapons? sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015…
how about the thousands upon thousands of catholic abuse cases, with priests being sexual abusers? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic… (my uncle was one of them)
how about the homopobia in the catholic church? how about an entire group of people doesnt have LEGAL RIGHTS because of these shit eaters? www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/10/15/… www.slate.com/blogs/the_slates… l www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/ca…
there's also way more shit thats messed up about their doctrine. i was raised catholic, and ive gone to catholic schools all my life, therefore ive been studying the religion since i was 8 years old. i think i know that this shit goes more deep than "love your neighbor uwu uwu uwu"
try telling me that these people are better than kids who think theyre dogs or cats or horses or tigers.
we dont hurt anyone. there is no need to be so violently against us other than "you think its stupid"
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Sexual abuse doesn't happen because of the religion, it happens because of pedophiles.
Homophobia happens because of a misinterpretation of one single solitary bible passage that people use to push their own agenda.
I mean Pope Francis is one of the most honorable men alive and I challenge you to find a single otherkin douchebag who's as awesome as him.
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considering the catholic church tries to COVER UP these cases, i'd blame them.
its actually not a misinterpretation. many catholics throughout history have preached these ideas. Saint John Crystom called it "worse than murder"
regardless of whether interpretation is wrong or right, it is STILL a belief that the church stands by.
and we literally havent even TOUCHED how badly women are mistreated in the church, lol.
did you not read the link. he's openly transphobic. im glad you think hes so honorable.
he is STILL against lgbt rights. just because he's a little nicer to us than the past popes, doesnt make him some saving grace for us
if he really loved us so much, he could renounce the belief of homophobia for the catholic church.
i can tell you know little about this religion. to catholics, the pope speaks for god, and for jesus. what the pope says, catholics believe. they believe he is guided by the holy spirit, therefore 'infallible'. (in a sense. hes still human, but they take whatever he says as legitimate).
so like. yeah. hes done good, no doubt, but i dont believe that hes "the most honorable man on earth"
honestly this is way off topic. i really dont know why you hate otherkin so much, considering they literally dont hurt anyone
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Oh boo hoo Pope Francis is transphobic, have you got a nice glass of tears for me.
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you've lost an argument so badly that all you have left is to make a shitty comment disregarding the lives of trans people.
cute. adorable really.
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And you just proclaimed yourself to be the winner of the argument. Now THAT right there is fucking sad.
But alright alright what do you believe otherkin is?
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Dude otherkin are as old as furries and even then no one took them seriously. I am glad the general public now has to deal with them and not just the furry community.
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People may have to deal with them but no one and I mean no one is going to take them seriously.
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Indeed, and that is a good thing. I thank whatever divine being may be out there that no one will.
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this comment is truth incarnate
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It's not damaging whatsoever. Chemical imbalances are what is damaging, as well as humans damaging their psyche. Finding an escape for yourself is often the only way you may deal with life in general and while some people may say mental institutions help, they are the ones that haven't actually been to one, or seen the inside of one. Within what people call 'help' only damages you more, causing you to think on your disabilities and problems. In 'normal and balanced' people, thinking on problems can help, yes. However when you have imbalances of chemicals in your head, it's hard to talk or think about your problems without worsening yourself, thus preventing you from getting better. Escapes such as drawing, believing yourself a different creature, reading, writing, or other things help you push away your problems. While shoving your problems down isn't the best option, it is often the only option available.
If you haven't experienced mental illnesses or have only been told you have mental illnesses for a specific time, you might not understand this. However, being someone with depression and anxiety, and having seen the inside of a mental institution (and being terrified within it, feeling thoughts closing in even if I wasn't admitted to it), I can relate to why people (or beings) label themselves with other animals, creatures and objects alike. It is an escape hatch within a world with no real escape.
Another thing being is that if no studies have been done on otherkin, therians, or momentians, then your very first argument has been proved invalid. However, if there have been (several) studies done on them, and they all came out null and void, then I would understand the first. However, considering the argument going on between the two parties, quite a few of the offended otherkin and therians are mentally ill (which is probably also why they're overreacting so badly to this).
While I am not entirely certain why non-mentally ill otherkin or therians (or momentians) feel the need to express themselves through a different creature (or object), it is likely just the event of being human, and is just that -- they are expressing themselves.
I hope that clears up some stuff for you. ^^
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So otherkin is a mental illness, or a side effect of such.
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A side effect of such, or a way to express yourself and be different. Yup!
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Different isn't always good. Uniqueness is too often substituted for substance.
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And that is what you believe, not what they believe. Respect people's thoughts. ;v;
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