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Published: 2011-02-16 01:20:31 +0000 UTC; Views: 3802; Favourites: 174; Downloads: 20
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I'm sick of seeing great artists get bashed all the time by trolls, haters, and other people I don't even have names for.If you don't like an artist's 'style' or piece of work, please take the artist's feelings into consideration. How would you feel if someone wrote a nasty comment to you?
"Your art sucks."
"It's so cute it's ugly."
"Wow. Soooo original. Not."
Give helpful criticism, not ignorant comments.
It's called RESPECT. Respect others, and they'll respect you.
And trolling isn't 'fun.' It's just plain cruel. You might get a kick out of being a troll at first, but really, you're not helping society.
Just grow up.
Got a problem with this stamp or these comments? Talk to me about it. I like to hear opinions. But remember, once you state yours, I'm entitled to my own response.
Have a nice day
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Comments: 172
Well, as James Franco once said, "they hate us 'cause they ain't us."
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Yeah,THIS NEEDS TO BE SAID, PREACH
Just like Zamii...
Her art style was really lovely
Honestly I would not give a FLYING FUCK if people say 'omg that's not how you draw her fatphibe!!1'or this is white-washing faggot!1'
I'd still draw
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This stamp is so PC it should be on fox news.
You need some new philosophy.
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Exactly!
And the ones who dont even draw and just post screenshots of games get away with harassing people!
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Maybe they support douchey views, or "sell out" on something.
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i agree.
I saw awesome eorks totally ignored.
And those works are not necessary mine.
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Praise! Although, I feel there's no such thing as a talanted artist. People have their own style, from cutesy-wootsie kawaii stuff to realistic sketches.
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I think I've found my stuff on a good number of 'bad art' blogs. I don't really blame them, my stuff is quite weird.
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seeying in the description you would like to hear opinions, I'll give mine too on this :3
I think the amount of how much one will be insulted also got to do with the artists popularity. at least it seems to me. if you have an artist that is very populair and draws something original, not many will complain. if an unpopular artist would draw something similair and original, the chance of getting bashed would be much higher. and I think "good" artist add something really artistic to their art that is not easely understood/ sen and when they can't understnad it, they usually go negative.
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if they are good artists then the comments fo the trolls will not change that
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No, but nobody likes being harassed.
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i understand. i find it interesting that everyone hates trolls who hate on good artists but no one cares when someone trolls a starting artists. its much more devastating to that persons confidence.
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It is true that no one pays much attention to that, and it's so rude and unnecessary. Everyone starts off somewhere, so why insult their mistakes rather than encouraging them to do better? I've actually gone off on a few of those trolls myself, but you're right; I should have made a stamp for beginning artists too.
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I'm a beginner...
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thank you for caring about us starters
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My pleasure! I was there once, and I'm actually still a beginner compared to a lot of great artists.
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I really agree with this stamp, some people can be big jerks. I mean, come on! This is DeviantART! Which means it's an art site, which means a majority of the people here will post their art! Some people here have screwed up logic when it comes to art, which is a really big problem.
"You have lame art, you're doing this just for pageviews!"
"So good, it's bad!"
"A girl with goggles and a sweater? So original."
Seriously?! If you don't like it, discontinue viewing and get out of here! DeviantArt is pretty much like an online museum with lots of things to see. There's good art, there's bad art and then there's stolen art. And by stealing, I mean pretty much like photographing something and claiming it as your own. There's fans, there's haters and there's trolls. If someone went anywhere on DeviantArt and looked at something and said "You call this a masterpiece? More like garbage!", then that's bad news and it won't end well. I would make more examples, but I don't feel like it. It just bothers me that there's so many morons on the Internet, INCLUDING DeviantArt! If there's still morons on this planet by the time it's 2022 or later, I'm losing faith in humanity.
Rant ends here.
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jealousy and selfishness is something inherent in human nature, unfortunately. I can understand many when pros are talking only with professionals. but why they do it, mostly because they know what kind of advice they need and criticism. I'm not saying pro is better, but that doesn't mean they don't work hard. They have struggled a lot for being so good, while the smaler once are still struggling and working hard to be good. so it is actually no difference between the pros and those who continue to exercise, both need eacother.
Deviantart is a place to share our art, and we are always saying that our art is best. It is good to say it, but with care and don't speak it with negativity. but only for self-confidence
it might sound like a lot wrong and strange about that. I beg your pardon, but my English is not good. I am neither for or against either side
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i have been there were people have made mean comments to me before.
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I'm sorry you have. :/ Unfortunately, that's the Internet for you.
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thanks for your sorport and i know
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Since I've left my comment there I'm still waiting for a response.
I'd be glad to hear your opinion about that :<
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"A place where we share our "best" art" ??
Indeed DeviantART 
-> talented artists who're drawing great art for fun, share with others and talk with the fellow members
-> AND talented artists who draw art, share with others, talking only with other talented artists and doesn't care about giving a response of the nice comments of art appreciators
Those people who just draw perfect art only to talk with other people with the same skill level are just braggers. I knew some people who I was trying to give a nice talk with them - But I don't respect them anymore.
Drawing art for showing-off? NO THANKS! I think those people don't belong to here
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well, maybe they speak with mostly professionals because they know what advice and criticism they need. neither professionals or us less professionals are better, we both struggles hard to be who we are now. but to be better, we need professionals to show us and learn us how to be much better and doing advances. one day, we less professionals are going to be the one who learns up the next generation of artist who knows less then us. we need eachother.
and with "our best art" the best of OUR own art, not the best in world. but our own.
just remember that elly, one time, its your turn to be the one
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Yeah, that's right that they probably speak up to know how they can improve. But I think it's not fair towards to the people who're practicing if they give a nice comment, give critiques, too or asking that person how they can improve and the professionals don't give any answers. Instead they only talk to the other professionals.
As beginner you feel in this situation kinda stupid about that
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well, its just human nature i guess. groups.
but ofc, its up to who you ask, not everyone is that bad x)
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You say that so easily.
I still have the feeling that lots of professionals are ignorant braggarts who doesn't care of the comments of beginners Γ³__Γ²
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looks like wolves, alpash doesn't care about omegas.
but i guess maybe something bother them, i dont know much about pro peoples. they are like a own specie. lol. but im sure many aint ignorant, or just that they get 300 feedsback a day and maybe just, close them all x)
i have talked to many pros, they have been nice
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So I guess I'm the only one who always have the luck to meet those people having nothing to do with me
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hey, its over 7 billion peoples. you have maybe just met 1% xD
btw, did you see Dansyrons comment on the journal you first commented of my work?
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Honestly, I wasn't friendly to him. But I apologized
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well, everyone makes mistakes, i just wanted you to see about the comment if that maybe gave any answare to ur question. i'm not good with english, so i dont know for sure what he ment ^^
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Well, there were things I wanted to clear up
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but that wouldn't be cleared up if you have blocked him, i guess.
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No after I undo the block I wanted to clear up some things. But actually I don't want to mention it
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I don't completely understand what paraphrasing the stamp has to do with the point of your comment, but I agree that those artists who never respond to anyone but the other 'greats' can come off as a bit obnoxious and self-centered. But, do you have any idea how time consuming it is for said artist to respond to every appreciative comment? Honestly, I'd be more inclined to respond to a more famous artist's comment than the rest if I received, oh, over a hundred comments a day. And the well-thought out comments from art appreciators take the longest to respond to because replying often includes a similarly lengthy reply. So, those artists may read and think about the critical comments but choose not to respond because they simply don't have the time.
Of course, there are the attention hogs who draw the same type of fanart or character over and over just to become popular, and I agree with you there that it's easy to lose respect for them. But, their art is still art, no matter how annoying it may be. If it's perfect like you mentioned, then it's probably the best they can create.
I wouldn't go as far to say that they shouldn't be on here because that'd be similar to saying, 'Oh, I don't like this person's art, so he/she shouldn't be on deviantART,' and I don't agree with that. If there's a particular boastful artist you don't like, then just don't look at his or her art.
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Well, what do you call the "same type of fanart" or character, just because someone likes to draw, say, vocaloids, or a certain character doesn't mean they are an attention hog. I don't know what you meant by this exactly, but it just didn't really make sense to me that someone who likes drawing fanart should be labeled as an attention hog.
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I'm saying the ones who draw fanart just to become popular are attention hogs. I draw a lot of fanart myself because I am a true fan of what I'm drawing. But there are artists who draw fanart of a popular show, game, etc. just for attention because it's no secret that fanart receives favorites more quickly than original art. If you think there isn't anyone who do this, you're naΓ―ve. Never did I say that I was labeling all fanartists as attention hogs. That'd be pretty hypocritical, considering my own gallery.
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Thats true, the way that fanart gets way more attention than original art is kind of unfair, but its kind of understandable. I draw a bunch of fanart too, but thats just because I like the characters and they are fun to draw.
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Yeah, I mean, the reason so many people like fanart is because everyone can really connect to the art, if they're a part of the fandom. It's universal. But like I said, that's pretty much what I do, too.
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I guess I misunderstood something. Sharing our "best" art means for me that people are seeking for the best art from the professional artists.
Although the ordinary artists or even beginner deserve as much respect as well.
Of course it's time consuming to give a response to a well-thought comment from art appreciators. I'm not a person giving one word comments like "OMG", "cute", "awesome" or many more - I personally find it annoying for a long time 'cause I find they'd be glad to hear what the person thinks about the image or giving advised what they can improve.
I find it kinda sad that the professional artists seems not to take notice of comments like this. As if they just ignore them.
I just think DA is for share and not for being fame.
So this is my opinion about that
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I meant sharing our best art as in sharing the best we can personally do and was pointing out that the talented artists, including but not only professional ones, tend to be insulted frequently for different reasons.
And of course they deserve respect. I consider myself an ordinary artist and want nothing more than other artists and appreciators to respect me and my work. This stamp was simply pointing out one of my views on highly skilled artists.
It's great that you give thoughtful comments, and I'd be one to take them to heart. I'm sorry that some artists seem to just ignore them, but as I said, you don't know for sure that they didn't read and use the comments. I also apologize for not replying to your first comment until you recently commented again to encourage a response, but I promise you that I did read it. This is what I mean about not knowing for sure if an artist just ignored a comment or didn't have time to respond. I understand how a lack of response can cause you to think an artist doesn't care, but you don't really know if that's true.
And well, yeah, it's about sharing, but fame comes with sharing as an artist grows more skilled and if others like what the artist is sharing. Sharing is pointless if no one takes notice of what you're sharing.
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Same to me. I respect people. No matter whether they're beginners or experienced artists.
So I feel sorry that I commented on your stamp so harsh. I took some things wrong out of my frustration
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It's alright. I like sharing opinions with other artists, and it's not like we were at each other's throats. ^^
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because there is no law to tell what is good art or bad art, art is just art
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Thats very good speaked my friend, nothing is good or bad, art is art
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Exactly! ^^
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simply because trolls and haters are jealous XD
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Trolls tell us to grow up;
But really, they're the ones who need to. T_T
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