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Hidavalentinwar — Goodbye Uncle Moss
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Published: 2012-07-26 13:42:22 +0000 UTC; Views: 3652; Favourites: 57; Downloads: 7
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During the russian army dog dilemma in Weed manga, Gin and most of the old Ohu warriors were trapped in narrow canyon surrounded by these trained russian dogs. While trying to make a desperate escape from this situation Gin's troops end up fighting army dogs hopelessly out numbered. To give others chase to escape Moss stays behind and continues to fight agains army dogs while Gin and others retreat.Tesshin is actually first to notice that Moss isn't behind them and makes his way back to help Moss. But when they find Moss, he's almost dead, holding on to the dead army dogs in his jaws. When Moss dies Tesshin hugs him and shares his sorrow with other Ohu soldiers.
I really had a feeling that death of Moss affected the most to Tesshin because after all Moss took care of Tesshin when he was a small puppy. He was uncle Moss and I always smiled when Moss protected Tesshin from everything that was happening around him in Ginga Nagareboshi Gin series. and seeing Moss actually die in Weed manga actually suprised me and made me sad. So to honor that moment in Gin history I painted this to show these two together for the last time.
I apologize for the quality of this picture.
Tesshin and Moss (c) Yoshihiro Takahashi
Painting (c) Hida
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I know right. All my favourites kick the bucket also in that series. I would have been actually okay if some of them had died between GNG and GDW to an old age because most of my favourites consists of old Ou warriors. It seems that only Ben dies that way in a series. Maybe it's not that exciting to draw but it would have been better than to see John have his guts pulled out of his stomach by Hougen or Moss torn to pieces by russian army dogs.
Sorry for the over length answer. This is a touchy subject to me x)
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My favorite characters too are mostly Ou warriors.
Well, to tell the truth all the dogs from GNG should have been dead including Ken and Tesshin who were only pups at that time. I mean what dog that lives in the wild and is medium to large size gets to live so long? Kurotora and John are 18, Cross and Ben(who is of a giant breed which normally lives around 10 years) are 22 and where the hell is Chutora?
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They're really active geriatric dogs. Extremely stupid of course but that's effective way to suck some nostalgia out of loyal readers of the manga even though it makes no sense. Chutora may be the only character who died between GNG and GDW. Everyone else made it to GDW, even Moss who was apparently very old already in a original GNG series. That makes sense.
And taking to consideration all that experience that Weed has behind him in a form of Akame, Kagetora, Ken and Tesshin, he never really hear their advice about anything. Gin always trusted his elders when he was young and started to make his own decisions when he had enough experience and others had more confidense in him. Weed thinks he knows everything and can do everything all by himself. Why he has followers? He never gives any of his followers any tasks unless someone makes him to do it. He's just a little brat who needs to be taught a lesson. Weed pisses me off so much. He doesn't deserve any of his companions
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I think the same about Weed. Gin proved that he was a good leader and was chosen by the pack while with Weed it was something like "Oh, he the leader's son! Let's make him our boss!". And all the time when a decision has to be taken one of the characters, usually Jerome or Akame, say "Weed is our leader. We'll do as he says." This shows that the pack needs to be constantly reminded that he has backup to protect him. He didn't even know how to fight before Jerome thought him. Gin learned that on his own. And what is that idiotic blind "kindness"? Gin was kind too but he was rational and wouldn't hesitate to kill someone who deserved it. I can't understand the people who said Weed is better than Gin.
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It's also really hard to believe that Weed took down Kaibutsu by changing Kaibutsu's body direction in mid air all by himself. Weed is basically an ant compared to huge Kaibutsu and somehow Weed managed to take him down with that move.
And after that Weed managed to swim several miles downstream to catch up with Jerome and save him from drowning. This could have been possible if Weed had some kind of training in his life like Gin but his not reseaved any kind of training ever. When Gin jumped high or could fight you believed it because he had gone through hell in Gohei Takeda's training. Weed is just super powered puppy who knows excatly what to do and looses only once to his own brother Yukimura. That's just not possible. Really good instincts doesn't even up with strength.
Weed is basically dog world Jesus who never makes any mistakes. What Weed lacks is credibility as a pack leader. He always forgives his enemies even though they say constantly they're going to kill him. Then when he actually gets angry, he gets angry to a completely wrong dog. Jerome was one of the biggest backers Weed could ever desire and when he only tries to protect Weed, he gets chased away and then he blames himself for not understanding Weed.
Also in anime series when Weed has that big final battle with Hougen, he's obviously trying to kill Hougen and is really upset when he gets up over and over again. When Gin then tries to finish Hougen off Weed stops him and makes that big speech about peace, love and other stuff only moments after he tried to kill off Hougen himself. So Weed can't stand that someone else is taking his spotlight as a good example to the others. He's such a hypocrite puppy
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True! The scene where Weed killed Kaibutsu is so impossible to believe. Supposing that he could change Kaibutsu's body direction, why wouldn't Kaibutsu just shake him off and turn the way he founded best?
He loses to Yukimura?!? That's so cool! He deserves it! I want to get good enough at Japanese so that I can read the manga.
He killed Kaibutsu and didn't feel bad about it yet he didn't finish off Hougen who was truly evil.
Weed is just stupid. When he tried to assassinate Hougen in episode 20 he made his presence known in a grand manner. And when he used the Battouga he just HAD to shout "Over here, Hougen!". Who does this when they try to deliver a surprise attack consisting of a quick assassination?
GDW is about (foolish, blind)"kindness" while GNG is focusing on honor and a true sense of justice. I really enjoyed GDR(I began the series by reading this manga) and GNG. GDW was a huge disappointment to me. I hope GDWO will be better. Let's pray that Orion isn't much like his father.
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Maybe Weed justified Kaibutsu's death with thinking to himself that he was a real monster and not a dog who deserves to be forgiven. That's just pure evil in my opinion. Kaibutsu started his life as a test subject and was injected to no one knows how many chemicals to his system till he quite rightfully took his vengeance to the humans who mistreated him. Kaibutsu is more a tragic character than absolute evil and he even explained it to Weed and rest of his crew why he acted the way he did. But did Weed give him any understanding? No, he just kills him with a pointed stick.
But when it comes to Hougen who had killed so many Ou warriors, showed in any given situation that he deserves no remorse for his actions and kept Weed's father Gin in near starvation state for months, he somehow gets all the understanding from Weed. So in Weed's mind it's okay to kill someone who has suffered for most of their life in test lab and give him the most painful death imaginable but spare the life of a dog who forced dogs eat other dogs, kills when ever it's most entertaining and hope that sudden lighting strike in a middle of snow storm will kill this pure evil for you. Another stupid twist in a anime series
I actually found out Yukimura's victory over Weed from Ginga Wiki. Now I'm only waiting for the actual manga to come in stores because Ginga Densetsu Weed and before that Ginga Nagareboshi Gin mangas were translated into finnish so it is easier for me to read ^^
And taking to account Weed's attack against Hougen in a final episode, it would have been pretty easy to assume that Weed would have cut Hougen in half with his Battouga with that strike. Gin managed to cut Akakabuto's head right off with only one practiced Battouga attack to Akakabuto's side just a few moments before. Weed was shown making Battouga dozens of times in anime series and after all that he was still too weak to not cut Hougen in half with perfect Battouga strike.
What I have read from Ginga Wiki, it seems that Orion is quite different compared to Weed and even to Gin. What the Wiki says is that Orion is rude but smart and strong. He seems quite interesting unlike his stupid bimbo father. I also like Orion's brother Sirius who has a makings of a great character in him. I recommened to read trivia about these characters from the Wiki. It certainly got me hooked
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To be honest I actually liked Kaibutsu quite a lot. When he stated why he acted the way he did and asked Jerome why he was siding with humans Jerome gave a kinda lame answer in my opinion.
The main difference between Kaibutsu and Hougen in Weed's eyes is their looks. They both did the same things: killed and ate people and dogs, tried to take aver Gajou, killed some of Weed's friends etc. But since Kaibutsu both looks like a monster and acts like one means he's a monster while Hougen only acts like one so he just can't be a real monster. Personally, I believe that Kaibutsu had more redemption chances than Hougen.
The lightning part was.....plain stupid. Lightning doesn't occur in snowstorms. Everybody knows that.
The Battouga's cutting technique was changed in GDW. In GNG it had extremely high speed and would act like a rotating blade(to put it simply it did what it should do: cut). In GDW it was more like a smashing/skull cracking technique(or Weed was too dumb to properly use it; it would have been easier if the had aimed for Hougen's neck instead of head). But the weirdest thing about it in GDW is that it would let Weed totally paralyzed for a good while in GNG Gin and Riki could still move freely after using it but I would assume that this happens because Weed is weak.
Orion seems like an interesting fellow. I read a little about Sirius on Wiki. He resembles Gin a lot. It's a pity that he joined Kamakiri but he saved him so it can't be helped. But of course, if Hiro hadn't been influenced by Weed's "kindness" Kamakiri wouldn't have messed Sirius.
Have you read GDR? It's awesome!
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I like Kaibutsu also and Jerome's answer could have been a lot more better than "We need to serve humans because it's worked for us in a past." Some sympthany would have been nice since he was Kaibutsu's only friend in a world. Kaibutsu was mostly made evil when Hougen seemed to be born as one.
I think that if Weed had battled with The Underworld ruler wolf Gaia, he would have lost it completely. Even though that fight was put to an end by Reima, Gin still hold his ground and could use Battouga to Gaia without passing out after using it. Weed passes out almost everytime he uses Battouga so why he keeps using it in a tense battle where he could die while taking his power nap in a ground just makes me question his lack of logic. Yukimura was still a badass enough to spin around king baboons neck even when he was about to die. Yukimura could have been a lot better main character than Weed because he actually changed in his story arc when Weed stayed exactly same the whole series.
Sirius actually joined Kamakiri's three sons as a repaiment for saving his life in a snow storm. He owns his life for them so his morals are in constant struggle between his new pack and Orion's pack. It's a really interesting duality in my opinion.
I've actually read GDR. Again a much better backstory than Weed's. Riki grows up to a leader who actually deserves every ones respect. Even as a puppy Riki was a real badass ^^
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Yukimura and Joe seemed really interesting to me when I first read about them. I read that they hated Gin in the beginning but did they chance their mind till the end?
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I think neither of them looked up to Gin like Weed did since they were seperated from their father before they were born. Also Gin didn't found out that Yukimura and Joe were his sons until much later in the story. I can also understand why they wouldn't respect Gin all that much since they had never seen him in their lives and they thought he had abandoned Sakura on purpose to the mountains.
Yukimura didn't ever got a chance to know Gin before his death. Joe started to show some kind of respect towards Gin as a father when he helps Joe defeat the hybrid bears.
They just didn't have same kind of blind respect like Weed had to his father. Even though Gin was a legendary Ou warrior, he still needed to proof himself to his sons Yukimura and Joe to be honoured in their eyes. Real animal family issue is always fun to read
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That's right! But it would have been nicer if Yukimura got to know Gin and if he found out that he didn't actually abandoned Sakura.
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It's so sad that Gin had the chance to meet Yukimura right before he died. At least he died like a true warrior while fighting for his friends. Redemption could have been nice for both of Gin and Yukimura but they never got that
Even Joe didn't stand a chance for survival in GDW Orion since he apparently drowned while saving Orion from the earthquake so were again stuck only with Weed. It's a shame since both of Weed's brothers were far more interesting than Weed himself
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True! Probably Yoshihiro Takahashi wanted a different main character after finishing GNG and created Weed. Then he realized what a bad idea it was and made GDWO creating a more interesting dynamic main character.
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Great decision indeed from mr. Takahashi in my opinion ^^
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This is awesomely made! +fav
I've only read Gin's adventure and Weed's first one but I can't find the rest of the series. Do you know of any places online where I could read them? o.o
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Thanks for the compliment and the fav
Eight and a half Weed mangas you can read in english at this site;
[link]
Rest of the series I have seen only in picture forms. I can't read japanese ^^ Here's the youtube site that is bringing all the Weed mangas online with their original japanese dialogue. If you don't mind looking at the pictures then it's for you;
[link]
Ginga Wiki is the place you can fill the gaps if some dogs fate puzzles you;
[link]
I hope this helped you ^^
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I didn't know he died, aaaa ;____; This is so heartbreaking 
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It came as a complete suprise to me also when I was going through the character histories in Ginga wiki. But at least he died while protecting his friends
I'm glad you like it and thanks for the fav
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True, true
No prob ;D
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Moss was a real male
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I like him too. At least he went down fighting like a male ^^
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