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Published: 2014-02-17 12:50:11 +0000 UTC; Views: 5915; Favourites: 34; Downloads: 6
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If Scotland becomes independent, UK can preserve its flag. Malaysia and Sudan have lost areas in the past without changing their flags. However, it would be strange: cross of St. Andrew still being on flag of UK as well as on flag of its neighbour. But Scottish independence will raise new problem too: Scottish top-level domain. ".sc" domain is occupied by Seychelles and ".sco" domain is rather cultural than country code. On the other hand, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland has two top-level domains: ".uk" and ".gb". Why not use both of them? Some Britons want preserve kingdom, they can live in "United Kingdom". Some want republic, they can live in "Great Britain" without Northern Ireland. Unionists in Northern Ireland are monarchists, change of capital of monarchy from London to Edinburgh wouldn't matter to them. On the other hand, Welsh and English nationalists are republicans. Both domains would be used and word "England" would not be misused as name of Great Britain. Then-defunct Union Flag would still appear in cantons of other flags and would be usable as symbol of English language, unless this becomes more popular. There is only one major problem: dependent territories. I think UK and GB would peacefully divide them on basis of desires of local population. Possible are independence and condominium too.Flag of UK is merging of crosses of St. Andrew and St. Patrick, flag of GB was merging of English red, white and Welsh white, green. But it was changed after this proposal .
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Can someone tell what would happen to the Irish Repubic, I think they said something about wanting North Ireland too, π€
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Alternative flag for British Republic is here . It is based on this article. The tricolor symbolizes Dover Cliffs (they are in Britain) and yellow part of the rose reminds daffodil, symbol of Wales .
Alternative flag for United Kingdom of Scotland and (Northern) Ireland is here . The white saltire is more visible and the red saltire, seen as "English flag of Ireland", is removed. There is no more confusion with flag of Iceland or Potchefstroom. The harp could be removed.
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That would be like a humilation to Britain, of Scotland even gets North Ireland XD
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Overseas Territories should belong to UK (Scotia), but financial power of London of course to Britain. It would not be "separation of Scotland from Britain", rather "separation of England and Wales from the Crown".
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Ohhhh now thatΒ΄s a scenario I never thought about, cool idea!
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Short form of the British Republic would apparently be "Britain" rather than "Great Britain", because "Great Britain" refers to the whole eastern island of the British Isles and Scotland is not part of GB. However, country code GB can be preserved, as Samoa (former Western Samoa) preserved country code WS.
But what for UK? It consists of Scotland and Northern Ireland, so it can't be named only "Scotland" as a whole. Good short name would be "Scotia ", because this term was used in Latin to mark both Scotland and Ireland (in addition they have distinct terms Caledonia and Hibernia). "Scotia" is distinct enough from "Scotland", but similarity is desired. Alternative short name is "United Kingdom", but it is not suitable to form adjective. So the adjective form is "Scotian".
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what do you mean by "Malaysia and Sudan have lost areas in the past without changing their flags"?
AFAIK the Sudanese flag uses just Pan-Arab colours, which are given some symbolic meanings [red = struggle, white = Islam etc.] but they have no references to particular parts of the country, neither what became Southern Sudan nor something else.
the Malaysian flag, OTOH, does have references to the federal composition - namely, number of the stripes [and of the rays of the star]. but when new states joined the federation, the flag grew more stripes. and when Singapore seceded, they just redefined the meaning of the stripe symbolising Singapore to symbolise the federal capital territory.
anyway, i like the fact that the British Republican flag is not similar to the Hungarian one.
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ERRATA: of course it's the green colour that symbolizes Islam, not white.
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Yes, I was talking about Singapore and South Sudan 
The British (GB) flag is no more similar to Hungary, but now it is similar to Ladinia, Lesotho, Cascadia and Bashkortostan. However, their flags are less known, so it doesn't matter. I only forgot to preserve transparent background and changed it to white when editing the preview in MS Paint
The Scots-Irish (UK) flag is similar to Burgers flag of Potchefstroom , but more important in SoaringAven 's eyes is similarity with flag of Iceland. However, I think it is distant enough and similarity can be even desirable (Nordic orientation of Scotland and OTOH Celtic heritage in Iceland). I like it.
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You talkin' 'bout me? O_O
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I personally think England will become a kingdom again and Wales will be an autonomous principality.
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So once Northern Ireland secedes from Scotland for any reason, ".sc" will still be a problem. They could use ".al" of Alba, but Albania is using it, too.
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Albania can change to ".sq" as ShqipΓ«ria. Or ICANN should allow longer country-codes 
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I suppose changing the domain name isn't a simple thing, you'd have to settle deadlines, re-set the DNS, etc.Β
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Flag of UK is usable as symbol of Scots, because this fusion is ugly.
And GB's red can be changed to blue, as is here . Another British republican flag proposals are this , this and this .
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However, blue-white-green stripes are used in so many other flags , so shades must be distinctive.
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Interesting idea.
I bet people will confuse Scotland with Iceland and England with Hungary
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Hungary would change its flag .
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Why, because England asked them nicely?
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Why do you call British Republic "England"?
GB = British Republic = Britain
UK = United Kingdom = Scotia
See last comment on this deviation.
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Because it basically is ^_^ if you call a chicken an eagle that doesn't make it an eagle and I will keep on calling it a chicken.
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