HOME | DD
i-stamp — Kimba and Simba
Published: 2011-04-24 05:32:16 +0000 UTC; Views: 7041; Favourites: 265; Downloads: 407
Redirect to original
Description
Made with a combination of Photoshop and Flash cs3.The Lion King copied a great deal off Kimba: The White Lion. And even if you like The Lion King better, even if they were originally going to make a 'tribute,' they never asked for permission and never credited Tezuka Inc. for the theft they never apologized for.
You can be a fan of TLK and not have the guilty conscious trying to justify a wrong Disney did. But don't try and deny it. That's what lets these things happen over and over again. Instead, be happy that Kimba was around to "inspire" Disney.
For more about the Kimba v. Simba debate, there's a really outdated website over here .
P.S. I will never disable comments just because people disagree with me. Feel free to voice your opinions.
P.P.S. Thanks to for the motivation to do this stamp.
Related content
Comments: 279
thank you. this stamp was needed
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Haha, my Dad was so pissed when he realized how similar the two cartoons were. He loved Kimba so much XD
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Completely support this theory. Funny thing the other day, I was watching Scar from TLK1 and Zira from TLK2's music videos thinking that they ripped themselves off there.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
This is one of the best fantard stamps of all time.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Ah, I love Kimba <3 I used to love TLK when I was younger, but when I found out about Kimba I knew I prefered it. It's amazing. It's sad that so many people dislike and bash on Kimba because of TLK, and because they think it's better. It's a good story, but I still like Kimba more x3
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
At first I thought Disney were copying from Kimba the white lion, but I now think it's was a coincidence as Simba mean "Lion" is Swahili.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
The names aren't what I think seals the deal. It's stuff like this:
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
[link]
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Wow. They're identical. Strangely enough I was talking to someone else about the Kimba/Simba debate yesterday and he/she told me Disney tried to get the rights to make a full length Kimba movie and started to make it before getting an official answer, thinking "We're Disney, we'll get the rights." And When Tezuka Productions refused Disney the rights, they made it anyway, claiming they never heard of Kimba. People are not that dumb when shown images from both productions. I now think Tezuka Productions should have sued.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
She is all wrong Tezuka productions had no idea about it Disney never contacted them.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Seriously? How did Disney get away with that? I would have sued them for copyright.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
It's Disney there a huge company. They were able to sue a kindergarten school.
👍: 0 ⏩: 2
What? seriously? What for?
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
What? Seriosuly? A kindergarten school? What on earth for o.e ?
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
If I am not mistaken an artist at the school drew the Disney characters on the window and they got sued for it.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
That sucks, how cruel :/
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I love both, and I agree with this stamp <3
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Like others have said, Disney is notorious for ripping off other stories/movies/etc. So, no surprise.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I'm not doubting what you say, but I will say that Lion King copies Hamlet more than it does Kimba. But then, Disney has a history of ripping artists off, so don't expect that to change.
I still like Lion King, though.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
The resemblance to Hamlet doesn't account for most of the stylistic choices though, such as the father and son sitting over the rocky outcropping, which is also used for dramatic roaring, the bird and baboon/mandrill adviser, the dark-skinned lion antagonist with a wounded eye, the hyena henchmen/comedy relief, the dead parent in the clouds, the stampede, the meat eater eating bugs instead of the non-meat eating friends, and so and and so on.
I don't really care much for either TLK or Kimba, but I like Kimba's story far better and TLK's music far better (especially the broadway score).
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
True for most of that, except for one item - Dead parent in clouds = ghost of Hamlet's father. And while it may have taken stylistic elements from Kimba, it does take most of it's thematic and story-related elements from Hamlet. An evil uncle usurps the throne from the main character's father, and the main character, after a revelation from the ghost of his father, challenges his uncle's right to that power. Most of the characters can correlate to Hamlet characters, too, such as Simba for Hamlet, Scar for Claudius, Mufasa for Hamlet's father, and so on. Even with Timon and Pumbaa, a case can be made for them being the thematic equivalent of Rosencrantz and Gildenstern.
I don't mind TLK's story. I think it works very well for that type of setting. Now, in TLK II, they tried to do Romeo and Juliet, and the result was a crappy, over-the-top, ridiculously cheesy sequel as only Disney can produce. But I do agree with you on the music aspect. And as much as I love the film score, I also like the Broadway score much more.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Kimba had 60's logic, 60's animation and 60's storytelling.
But it does not compare to the trite, retarded logic and the characters in Lion King which are either vapid morons or assholes, and Timon and Pumba which are both. Lion King was a pretty movie, with pretty modern animation. But its story and logic were as bad if not way worse than Kimba's.
[link] <- Best Lion King review ever.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
I really like the backgrounds and animation for this stamp. 
I'll admit I've never seen any of Kimba, and I know that it was copied... but I still like TLK better because of the amazing animation. 
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Why can't we just enjoy them both??
Maybe TLK copied off of Kimba, maybe they didn't. So? This happened almost 20 years ago. Let's stop whining and arguing.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Just because it was a long time ago doesn't mean it's less wrong now.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I'm not saying it was less wrong. Just that we should move on. Focus on future concept thieves instead of going on about the ones in the past. I just don't know what you hope to gain by bringing up this old issue.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Awareness, for one thing. Since a lot of people are still either in denial that this happened or don't even know about it at all.
I don't hope that someone at Disney would apologize for this, but it would be nice. Stranger things have happened. Such as the Catholic church apologizing to Galileo 100 years later.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I just don't think it's an important enough issue to be complaining about when the world has actual problems we could be trying to solve.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Any art theft is unimportant compared to many other issues. But believe it or not, I'm capable of multitasking. I can speak up about multiple issues at once.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
All right then, I hope the other issues get the same fervor you give to this one.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Check my other stamps and see if my passions don't extend to a wide range of topics.
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
Eh, It's great you have your own opinion. But as far as I know the producers of the Lion King claim they had never heard of Kimba during production, so I'll disagree with you.
Not to mention, its only some similarities in the characters... Which can easily be thought up by two different people. What is a lions enemy? A hyena? Obvious. What monkey looks like it could be a shaman? Baboon, duh? Evil uncle? Hamlet, and many other famous stories that everyone has ripped off. As far as I see, the similarities are simply that. similarities, all capable of being reached by following a story telling formula.
Over all, the plots are completely different. I watched Kimba, all the way through (my eyes and ears nearly bled by the end of the final episode) and the story is nothing like The Lion King.
So, I'll stick with Disney's story on it.
👍: 0 ⏩: 2
you linked me to the DA browser
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
yeah i'm sorry. did that on acident... but what i was saying is that i rather agree with you! I am currantly in a debate between the simularitys right now...
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
The claim that they've never heard of Lion King and yet so many scenes and characters be the same is laughably dishonest.
It's not that the lions enemies included hyenas, it's that they included hyenas that were the comedy relief, but the main villian was an evil uncle with a scar over his eye with a British accent. He even, in a fit of pike, scooped hot sand into Kimba's eye during a fight and chased him into a brier patch.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Whatever you say mate. you have your own opinions, as do I.
Plots are too different. And scene comparisons are often taken out of context. Half the people who argue this argument just mimic what others have said.
I watched the entire bloody series. Hated Kimba. Terrible series. Loved Lion King. But I also did my research, personal opinions from producers, production artists, on both sides.
If it can't be proven, I don't believe it.
It's just beating an old argument with a stick. It's never going to go away, and its never going to be resolved.
👍: 0 ⏩: 2
I like both TLK and Kimba and have watched both series and somehow I think your bullshiting
The fight scene between Older kimba and Claw and Little KImba and his Aunt is the SAME fight as between Scar and Simba.
Kimba has a baboon guide like Simba
KImba marries his childhood friend like Simba
Kimba has an annoying parrot like Simba
Kimba loses his father at a young age like Simba
Kimba talks to his father in the heavens like Simba
Claw has funny Hyena's as his evil henchmen like Scar.
The other animals celebrate the birth when the new prince-sub is born
Kimba has to learn to eat bugs like Simba only with Kimba in context it made a lot more sense since Simba suddenly later on decided to teach Kiara how to hunt for food while Kimba teaches his children to live of bugs out of peace between all animals
Both Kimba and Simba go trough a thorn-rose bush
I can go on if you want.
Plus look up Record Roy Disney Kimba remake, there is a recording during 1991/1992 that Roy Disney mentioned Kimba the Albino LION for his newest movie. Watch the special ediction dvd you see concept art of TLK of a white albino lion with black spots on it's ears just like Kimba
The voice actor of Simba said and claimed and you can look this up that he heard the movie is going to be a REMAKE OF Kimba the White Lion one of his personal favorite cartoons in his childhood.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
- Young Simba never fought his uncle. Only when he was an adult.
- Simba doesn't have an aunt.
- The baoon thing, I'll give you that, is interesting. But, at the same time, Rifiki is old and wise and optimistic. the baboon in Kimba, from what I gathered, was very pessimistic and a worrier.
- Everyone marries their childhood friend in fiction. It's the 'girl next door' syndrome. that's not unique to Kimba, Lion King, or any story. That basis has been around for ages.
- A hornbill isn't a parrot. Not to mention he's not annoying, and wasn't really a guide. he was like a secretary. And Simba did actually plan to get rid of him, but ended up keeping him around.
- Kimba looses both of his parents to poachers. And his mother dies in a boat sinking. That is nothing like the lion king. Simba doesn't even loose his mother.
- Through out history, literature, mythology, anything, characters have always talked to god, loved ones, angels; anything spiritual in the sky. Once again, not original to Kimba. Not original to anything.
- Hyenas are the lions natural enemies. no other animal, realistically, poses as much as a threat to them as a pack of hyenas. lion king was taking from nature. once again, kimba is not original in doing this.
- In any story where a prince or princess is born, the villagers or kingdom celebrate. Bambi, Sleeping Beauty, Spirit, Any ancient mythology, when Jesus is born in the Bible.
- Simba ate bugs with a meerkat and a warthog. two animals that do eat bugs. because there was no other prey. and when he went back to the pride lands he went back to his normal diet, it is assumed. Kimba just started eating them in his choice to not want to harm other animals. which doesn't make sense since he would be harming the bugs. Further more, Simba doesn't teach Kiara how to hunt. She just goes on her first hunt.
- the bush Simba went through did not have roses. And many stories have thorn bushes. they are a symbol. Sleeping beauty does this too.
Disney studios said to take their inspiration from Hamlet and their old masterpiece Bambi. In fact, I see more similarities in The Lion King in Bambi then I do in Kimba.
I know that Disney bought the rights to Kimba earlier on, in the 70's and 80's. But that idea was dropped. And technically, they didn't even buy it. The copy write and ownership wore off of the story because it died. Literally, lost business. out of business completely. So technically Kimba isn't owned by anyone right now. Any animation studio could pick it up.
Say what you want, mate... I have just as much passion and sources about this as you do, I'm sure.
And no need to call it bullshit, by the way. I'm not being hostile, no need for you to be either
your just beating and old argument to death with a stick.
👍: 0 ⏩: 2
- Young Simba never fought his uncle. Only when he was an adult.
- Simba doesn't have an aunt.
Dont you think that'd be too odvious? you have to put your mind into a thief. You cant copy something exactly the way it is and expect to get away with it. Disney wasnt stupid. Dont you think if Disney made Simba fight Scar when he was a cub would be strangely familiar? And again, yes Simba doesnt have an aunt, but like I said, if he did wouldnt that be too odvious?
- The baoon thing, I'll give you that, is interesting. But, at the same time, Rifiki is old and wise and optimistic. the baboon in Kimba, from what I gathered, was very pessimistic and a worrier.
Still a baboon related creature. Again too obvious if both baboob characters had the exact same personality it would be far too noticable for anyone. Changing the personalities and some few details causings naive perceptions like these
I would bring up some more of your following points but I just have the same explaination for them.
- Hyenas are the lions natural enemies. no other animal, realistically, poses as much as a threat to them as a pack of hyenas. lion king was taking from nature. once again, kimba is not original in doing this.
Hyenas are natural enemies. Though in the wild I never really see hyenas assisting one dark lion with a scar on the same side of the face. The idea wouldnt be that odvious unless it was presented by someone first.
- Simba ate bugs with a meerkat and a warthog. two animals that do eat bugs. because there was no other prey. and when he went back to the pride lands he went back to his normal diet, it is assumed. Kimba just started eating them in his choice to not want to harm other animals. which doesn't make sense since he would be harming the bugs. Further more, Simba doesn't teach Kiara how to hunt. She just goes on her first hunt.
Its easy to create a new idea over an old existing idea. Once again a naive defense. You people really need to understand how stealing works. Better yet, let me ask you something, why do you think its so easy to create fan fiction over original stories?
1. Fans create new ideas using pre-existing ideas. Thats why everyone does it, thats why there are billions of tlk fan fictions. Its easy, look at half the people who write fan fictions, I bet none of them have uploaded an original non-tlk related lion story or has lions drawn differently than tlk lions. Point is, its easy, the diffrence between tlk fans is that theyre doing it because they love tlk and its like a 'tribute' to it. Disney bullshited the whole thing knowing that their fans will never see the evil in them. Disney is notorious for stealing and corruption. I am still a tlk fan and was for 14 yrs before I knew about Kimba, and when I found it I said to myself "typical disney -.-"
Part of proving this whole thing is just using common sense, just look, the only people who dont belive that Disney didnt rip off Kimba are all people who hate Kimba and love TLK. Therefore blinded by any facts and proof and is too naive to possibly see and fault in the Disney company.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
lol, late comment = fail
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
really? thats your best defense?
didnt know there was a deadline XD
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Dude, I posted that like.... At least a few months ago, I don't even remember. I don't even caaare anymore.
I like Disney, I trust Disney; thats that for me. let it go.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I love Disney but, I've lived in this country long enough to see the corruption that goes on off sets. I'm always up for a friendly debate but I can't argue against feelings of not wanting to believe. I will leave it be
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
everyone is corrupt. And now with that, I bid you goodbye
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
[link]
oung Simba never fought his uncle. Only when he was an adult.
oh yes the age difference makes all the difference 
Simba ate bugs with a meerkat and a warthog. two animals that do eat bugs. because there was no other prey. and when he went back to the pride lands he went back to his normal diet, it is assumed. Kimba just started eating them in his choice to not want to harm other animals. which doesn't make sense since he would be harming the bugs
A hornbill isn't a parrot. Not to mention he's not annoying, and wasn't really a guide. he was like a secretary. And Simba did actually plan to get rid of him, but ended up keeping him around
My mistake it's still two birds who serve as a form of teacher to the cub.
Hyenas are the lions natural enemies. no other animal, realistically, poses as much as a threat to them as a pack of hyenas. lion king was taking from nature. once again, kimba is not original in doing this.
your point? both the hyena groups work for Claw and Scar in both franchises. Since Tezuka didn't had the sourch and information to look all of this up you think Disney would knew better.
the bush Simba went through did not have roses. And many stories have thorn bushes. they are a symbol. Sleeping beauty does this too.
lol neither did the bush Simba went trough, It was mistake of mine but now I can see you didn't really paid attention when Kimba went trough the thorned bush.
Through out history, literature, mythology, anything, characters have always talked to god, loved ones, angels; anything spiritual in the sky. Once again, not original to Kimba. Not original
Both lion princes that talk to their father in heaven who gives them advice to step up to be the next king, Is a strong silmantiry regardless if it came from anything else.
Everyone marries their childhood friend in fiction. It's the 'girl next door' syndrome. that's not unique to Kimba, Lion King, or any story. That basis has been around for ages.
again doesn't change the fact that Simba and Kimba have these strong similarities.
it's based of the belief that animals reign over insects, you're still forgetting that they both went on a bug diet a strong similarity there.
plus Kimba also befriended a meerkat and a warthog.
I know that Disney bought the rights to Kimba earlier on, in the 70's and 80's. But that idea was dropped.
...no they didn't evidence please? The two companies never contacted each other. I am sorry I didn't mean to insult you but wheterver you geet your information from it's False. Disney did mentioned in the 70's that they wanted to make an animation
movie/series like Astroboy of the Tezuka prodcutions.
he copy write and ownership wore off of the story because it died. Literally, lost business. out of business completely. So technically Kimba isn't owned by anyone right now. Any animation studio could pick it up.
again bullshit the rights are owned by Tezuka production when Tezuka created his company he copyrighted all of his cartoon characters from the 60's including Kimba I also fail to see how this has anything to do with the Lion king ripping of Kimba it's like your admitting that they stole it and your trying to justify it. Good job.
As I said I find it hard to believe you looked up the information because if you did you would already know that Roy Disney mentioned Kimba during the making of tlk record, you would know the Voice actor of older Simba claimed TLK was going to be a remake of his favorite cartoon, you would know that the concept art showed Simba being a albino lion.
You can bash Kimba all you want but hard evidence shows that without Kimba there would never be Simba. The stories do differ but the strong similarities still exist. Was the part of Simba learning to eat bugs really necessary to the movie? no was it necessary for Kimba? yes because Kimba had to learn peace between animals ( and there is a difference between animals and insects which should be obvious )
Again look at the fight scene between Little Kimba vs his aunt and older Kimba vs claw and blue lion, it's the same fight as Simba against Scar, Kimba even used the same trick to throw Claw off when he was about to jump him. There is similarity not just in designing-characters stories, scenes but as well as the freaking fight movies.
Deny this all you want but proof says otherwise.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
You call proof, I call mashed together information found by different people with different websites with nothing to do with their lives.
Truth be told, I'm sure the truth, whether you are wrong, or I am, will never be trusted. You can fight with me as much as you want, but the problem with people like you is, I will not change my opinion. And I can not change yours. Your battling a pointless battle.
I merely stated my opinion, didn't need to get jumped on matey. But, Love, banter with me as much as you want. If you knew anything about me I don't change my mind unless I know for sure I'm wrong.
Have fun with your pointless arguments. Perhaps you could put that to good use. Become a lawyer. It's more useful than arguing with people you don't know on the internet.
Later, mate.
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
Meaning you're going to discard the evidence ignore it and call it bull shit without saying why and without proving anything to your side while you can easily look up the recording which I talked about.
This isn't a fight for me but more of me stating the truth. I like both TLK and Kimba the White Lion.
Well you wouldn't be the first TLK fan that would do that. So yeah.
Later, have a nice day. 
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
I did try to prove my story, matey. You jumped right back at me. Didn't come on here to debate with you. Sorry that I didn't kiss ass to everyone agreeing
And happy zombie jesus day to you too
👍: 0 ⏩: 1
No you really didn't. 
👍: 0 ⏩: 0
<= Prev | | Next =>