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(UPDATE! 2018)
so people keep showing interest in my old species???? so here's some not hideous art for this thing. (updates for the others are a WIP atm? and kind of undecided)
added some refined info inspired by some questions I was asked, too.
Lux Interius are still an OPEN species, with the rules stated in this new ref.
old version of the art can be seen here:
(OLD; 2015)
for fun. FEEL FREE TO MAKE ONE! just credit me via mention plz so i can see it too!
i made this for griffsnuff 's dog+lights challenge. learn about itΒ HERE!
Lux Interius (c) Incyray
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Comments: 79
LutumNebula [2018-04-26 06:11:38 +0000 UTC]
I really liked how in the old ref sheet the head and mouth looked kind of more... melty, I guess? Not sure how to describe it, but I felt it fit the overall design better rather than a sleeker, more realistically-canine version. It felt, to me anyways, like the light from the inside was melting the darkness of the body outside, to give the appearance of a never-ending battle for dominance over one or the other. This concept made the species more appealing and unique to me, but that might just be my own personal preference for devastation and decay represented in the artistic world.
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2018-04-28 01:57:32 +0000 UTC]
the old art probably appeared to have such a quality because the anatomy was literally broken. the mouth probably appeared 'melty' because it was opened at a ridiculous angle; tbh overall the old art looks really distorted, everything is bent at wonky angles and some areas of the torso are compressed in the weirdest way.
the intent for the original design however was essentially what's seen in the new one, however; it was just poorly executed. I was significantly less skilled back then.
as for the way you interpreted the lighting effects on the old ref.. woowee I have no idea how you saw that in it. when I look at this old thing all I see is lazy low opacity unfiltered layers used for 'special effects'. it's kind of hard to see the direction in which the light is being projected in the old one, even! (which was the key feature; Lux Interius generated powerful light inside it's body that showed through mouth/eyes/nose like a flashlight!)
if I were to have recreated it with a light/dark struggle theme to it, I would have made the light a burning force; with the edges of it's mouth/ect. singed and slightly melted like a burnt marshmellow, with a hot and angry glow faintly showing beneath it's skin. probably would have used lava floes/bubbles/ect. for reference on such an aesthetic!
the actual unspoken theme surrounding Lux Interious however was less of a battle and more of a hopeful interior light- perhaps related in some way to introspective enlightenment of a sort, or to pride. (although to be honest the original design was actually rather meaningless, just fodder for the contest; most of this meaning is added after the fact, in an examination of the sort of feel it ended up carrying, at least form my perspective)
as for the redesign looking different(sleeker and more realistic).. the mixture of realism and style, at least in the goal, has remained rather steady for me over the years! the old art might look more surreal, but it was trying to look like my current art; it was just make by an unskilled hand.
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2018-04-29 03:27:07 +0000 UTC]
That's what I liked about it, though, it breaks the typical rules of art and anatomy. (Which I personally like because I'm so painfully terrible at anatomy... Whenever I try to draw something cute and cartoony, I always overshade and overdetail, to the point where my doodles come out looking... wrong. Like something you'd see in the nightmares of those living in Alice's Wonderland. I tend not to upload these doodles, as they might unnerve people; they certainly unnerve me at times.) It's a species of your own creation, you get to decide the rules of it's anatomy, which is why I like your OC's to begin with. They are different, they break the rules. If the updated version is more true to how you wanted it to look, I'm happy you were able to achieve that now. I will still forever love that cute little melty fluffbun, though. (I actually saved the original image in my phone when you first uploaded it so I could look at it every now and then because I loved it so much.)
Perhaps I see what you don't because you knew how it was supposed to look, whereas when I first saw it I had no prior idea as to how it should've been perceived. That happens to me as well, and is apparently quite common amongst artists, from what I've been told. When you draw something, you see the whole process, and you spend so much time looking at your work it becomes ingrained in your mind's eye to look a certain way; we can no longer see it objectively as others who are observing the final product for the first time do. There's actually a trick I learned where if you're drawing on paper, you can hold your drawing up to the light, and by looking at it through the back you can sort of trick your brain into seeing what another person might see, since it no longer looks exactly like what you had just been staring at for hours.
Haha, well don't do that, because the melting dark/light struggle is what I want to do with my Lux Interius... if that's a look that's allowed with your species, that is. I just haven't gotten around to it yet...
I'm sorry that my perception of the Lux Interius sort of twists your original intent into a... dark, painful, twisted theme... I suppose mine could look like he's dying... but be happy and hopeful about it...? (Hey, nothing wrong with dishing out a fodder species and then spicing it up later on. Most of my doodles (that I don't share) start out as scribbles, and then develop personalities later on as I continue to mess with them.)
Skilled or unskilled, I liked it! I've always found your art to be fascinating, and I continue to watch knowing that you have great potential.
Also, from reading your profile, I understand being shy. I was not expecting such a lengthy response from you, and was quite daunted by it. (If not entirely thrilled at the same time!) You are in no way obligated to respond any further. Hope to see more art from you soon! (Or whenever you feel like it!)
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2018-04-29 16:56:01 +0000 UTC]
hmmm,,, it's less 'breaking the traditional rules' so much as made by an ignorant person.
ooohhh man, I know that feeling though! I think every artist goes through it though, actually; the phase where you first start learning about anatomy and end up overcompensating to get it right- resulting in drawings that have too much detail. As you become more confident in your understanding of anatomy, however, I'm fairly certain that you'll get better at identifying a more balanced mixture of realism and style.
True, as a fictional creature of my own creation, I do get to decide what it's anatomy will be like- but personally, for me, I absolutely hate it when a design strays from factual limitations of biology and physics without reasonable explanation. I tend to go into obsessive levels of depth, but I think every artist, no matter their trade, should learn a little bit about every object and feature they portray in their art. Learning a little bit of everything can allow for very informed decisions that can drastically change the quality of your art, regardless of whether you aim to create something surreal or life-like.
awww, that's really sweet! I'm you found it to be cute! c:
oooh yeah, that's definitely a thing that happens. The artist always has their intended interpretation of the art, but every person viewing it is unique; their personal experiences, values, interests, ect. All change how they see the art, and I think thatβs pretty cool! Sure, an artist can nudge the viewerβs interpretation of their art in a certain direction, but they can control the exact way they travel down the stream their boat was nudged in.
hmm, that's an interesting trick! I'll have to try it out the next time I do traditional art. Something I do and notice, though, is that if you leave a work for a while and then come back to it, you can see it with a fresher lens and better spot flaws that hid from you before. It's why I leave and do something else for a while before proofreading.
oh I know! I was speaking in the purely hypothetical, the 'what if'. As for apply such a feature to a Lux Interius OC that you would make, i say go for it! It sounds like an interesting way of playing with the design and concept c:
MY DOOD, BOI, trust me it's definitely not overly dark for me! I know the original theme for Lux Interius and the majority of my art of late has been rather lighthearted, but BOI, when I want to be dark, I can be Dark. I wonβt continue to ramble here, but just. Veredeln, Spindel, Painseekers, heck even the sweet cinnamon roll Moth. Just.. woowee theyβre something.
I think that's how all characters and species start out? Just a vague raw concept that get refined over time and thought.
aww, thank you!
uhh, sorry about that. I'm shy primarily in that if not spoken to first, I tend not to initiate interaction. However if I'm not already feeling anxious at the moment, and you broach a topic that i find interest in, yeaaahhh get ready for a tome ;u;
and uhmm... sorry for the intimidating tome! Usually I try to restrain it and speak as little as possible(because nobody wants to hear me ramble), but your comment was kind of lengthy so I assume you would be tolerant of an similarly lengthy response. As a rule, I only write tomes Iβm responding to one, though.
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2019-07-22 01:10:26 +0000 UTC]
I don't know if I would necessarily agree about the ignorance, but to each their own.
I have noticed that difference, actually, in the ridiculous span of time it's taken me to respond to this...Β
That's very true, I can't say that a creature works when, for all intents and purposes, it really doesn't. I guess what I like about some of your creatures is that they're kind of crazy, but they still work.
I have noticed that with my figurines, which is fortunate because they can't be reversed like paper. I always find it incredibly fascinating when an artist makes something that they initially hate, but after not looking at it for a time, all these things start coming to light that they just couldn't see before and they end up loving it!
I've noticed your stuff can get pretty dark, but are you saying that if you wanted to, your work could get /even darker/ than it already is?
Yeah that's very true, no idea starts out perfect... and if it did, where would the fun be?
I am very similar in that regard, I tend not to speak with people unless initially spoken to, but it's easier when not in person. Even more so if it's a topic of shared interest. I certainly don't mind if people want to talk in "tomes", as long as they don't expect a quick reply, I prefer to listen rather than speak anyways.
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2019-08-30 00:12:00 +0000 UTC]
oooff lmfao wowee,,, that's really telling of how long I spent in that recent bout of lurking ;u;
that's cool to hear that your art is improving, though! c:
hmm! I think some of that might stem from my love for mixing animal traits that aren't commonly mixed, combined with my fascination with applying science to Everything.
hmm! yeah, that is a pretty interesting phenoma to observe. I can't think of many such instances that have happened with me; although it is a bit interesting that with Pardusimia(spacebugkitties), I originally had a whole bunch of different species of them- only to ultimate narrow it down to just one, which, interestingly, happened to be the most generic of the lot.
well, I mean,, 15yr old me played around a lot with strong BDSM/hard vore themes which I've since lost a lot of interest in. It's probably not as drastic or exaggerated as what you mind be picturing? but sometimes my initial versions for stories end up getting reworked because they were too mindlessly hurt/comfort centric. IDK, I feel like my response there might have been kind of over the top...
yep! c:
haha, ok! ;D; I see you share in my pain, lmao
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2019-08-31 04:34:48 +0000 UTC]
Ew, that face though...
-sees the sudden spam of faves- Ermagersh, stahp...Β
But of course, all artists want to improve! Where would we be if everyone decided the crude excuses for drawings by our 3 year old selves that barely qualified as "art" were ever considered good enough? Sounds like an awfully dilapidated, albeit colorful, world. We and our work should always strive to improve.
Heheh, your love for mixing these things with science makes me think of that one quote from Jurassic Park...
βYour scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.β
What was it about the most generic version you liked?
Well, we all have our demons.
Woo, something in common!
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2019-10-01 22:31:00 +0000 UTC]
that is the point
Yup! that be how artists do
I mean that is basically just a plagiarized copy of my design philosophy lmao XDD
they just felt more versatile, and less locked into a single role. the others all kind of started becoming Species of Hats, but the generic ones, by their simplistic nature, hadn't.
;D; [indecipherable noises]
haha, yeah!
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2019-10-02 04:35:47 +0000 UTC]
I know, and I still hate it.
HA! "Clever girl..."
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They do say that there's nothing like the original, or something to that effect.
-hears indecipherable noises- I think they're trying to speak to me...
-looks back at all comments- Dude, we should probably stop our massive spiel of responses here, they're taking over the comment section. XD
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2019-10-02 12:40:03 +0000 UTC]
;D;
haha XD
(funnily enough, the generic brand wasn't even the first iteration. that awards actually goes to kirvan, which were winged and had weird glove feathers and a bunch of seemingly more derived features. the generic design was actually one of the last :VΒ )
It is the void. Offer a cookie as a sacrifice. XD
eh, it happens. honestly this probably wouldn't be considered all that unusual if it weren't for the fact that I don't get that many comments per artwork- leaving long strings like this to stand out a bit
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2019-10-06 05:58:46 +0000 UTC]
(Weird!)
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Which is odd, really. I'm genuinely surprised that, after all this time, my original comment is still located at the top.
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2019-10-07 18:08:43 +0000 UTC]
(ye)
oh geez XD
Hmmm!Β
I would probably find it to be weirder if it wasn't the norm for me ;u;
as for your comment being up top, that's because it is the most recentΒ
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2019-10-08 04:03:02 +0000 UTC]
Yes, but why? It's old! Has no one else commented since? That's weird to me!
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2019-10-08 16:14:47 +0000 UTC]
yeah.
honestly it doesn't surprise me at all;
this artwork has actually received a rather large amount of comments compared to other works of mine. (esp if you count comments left for the old version)
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LutumNebula In reply to Incyray [2019-10-10 04:33:48 +0000 UTC]
I feel like there should be more, though...
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Incyray In reply to LutumNebula [2019-10-10 16:43:58 +0000 UTC]
eh, that's just how it be :V
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-23 21:45:55 +0000 UTC]
eeEEUUGHHHhhh this art is so old
lmao but yeah, go ahead dude, you can make as many as you like! Lux Interius in particular are wildly open. (what few other species I haven't aren't??? but that constitutes like 2, excluding the ones with refs as old as this one)
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-23 22:01:47 +0000 UTC]
I don't care if it's old bruh. It's good shiiiz! I would like to ask a few questions if you don't mind
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-24 00:00:08 +0000 UTC]
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-24 01:01:19 +0000 UTC]
Okie dokie, you asked for it...I mean what >.>
1. can they stand up on their hind legs?
2. are they allowed to have eyes? (they look like sockets)
3. can the eyes be two different colors?
4. can they have elemental powers?
5. can we give them hair styles, scars, accessories, clothing, etc.
6. Do they have a flexible background?
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-24 02:35:23 +0000 UTC]
(beware, I had never really thought too deep about these guys, so a lot of this is refinement that I'm doing right now. also, since I'm seeing a lot of interest for Lux Interius and other old species that I made yeaarrrs ago, I'm doodling up some updated art for them.)
1. probably not? they have the basic anatomy of a quadruped candid and so probably can't hold a bipedal stance for very long; the hips and spine just aren't the right shape.
2. they actually do have eyes, although with the vagueness of my old art I can see where that interpretation came from. now that i think about it, the eyes are most likely wholly clear, with a pinhole pupil at the bottom(to prevent retina damage from their own bright lights).
3. sure! the eyes could probably even be tinted a different color than the base light color(by having the lens itself be tinted)
4. possibly??? I suppose since these guys exist in a 'probability cloud setting' that's most likely some shade of fantasy; I wouldn't be surprised if any of them could develop an elemental power. honestly it depends on what you setting inject them into and the local magic rules there.
5. absolutely! I never quite set a solid definition for how smart these guys even were, so I suppose the community can decide whether or not they're civilized enough to wear cloths or not.
6. background? like, backstory??? if you're referring to backstory, definitely! plop them into whatever setting you please and go wild with giving them a story and personality! c:
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-24 03:00:09 +0000 UTC]
AWESOME! other than not being able to stand on their hind legs I would say they have passed my boxes. Also when I saw elemental powers I mean fire, water, air, earth. It could be taught since they have flexible backgrounds. I also think since they could learn to to wear clothes and add things like accessories then it would make more sense to allow them to stand up straight and walk like a human does. I am trying to work with you since I adore anthro art and have a bit of trouble drawing feral
Also about the eyes. Would I be able to give them standard eyes like the white, the color, than the pupil?
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-24 03:36:51 +0000 UTC]
nice to hear! c:
yep, I knew what you meant by elemental powers!
hmmm... well, I don't see any problem with an anthro AU, although not not every creature which is smart enough to do things like wear cloths needs to be bipedal or even have hands(although, wearing cloths and making tools is much easier with hands or other dexterous grabbers)!
anthro is probably a good way to transition from human to animal art actually(if you begin with humans, although you seem like more of an animal/anthro person to me), although for learning to draw feral it's best to study the anatomy of real animals. however, draw what you like, and if you don't feel your ready to try or even all that into feral characters, that's alright! c:
studying anatomy can seem intimidating? but you dont need to know the names of every muscle and bone. more important is understanding how they work and move, and how it all comes together to make the whole creature. also, basic taxonomy can be handy in knowing what anatomical features apply to which groups of animals.
(I hope I'm not being rude? I'm not trying to be a know-it-all, I just like offering helpful advice and tend to ramble)
hmm... I don't think it would fit with the fact that their eyes glow? a normal eye would a. not let light through from below, and b. the pupil would be too big and they'd go blind because of their own bright light ;u; (though, now that I think about it, the retina itself would need some sort of protection since the light comes from below. so inside the eye it probably has a sort of shield to dim the light)
a think this illustrates what i have in mind best??
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-24 03:48:00 +0000 UTC]
if that is the case then I ask for permission to turn their pupil into a slits and be able to draw them up right.
Also I think you misunderstood me on ferals. I can draw them just fine but my preference in Anthro art, I can also draw humans. I also understand your intentions so no worries
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-24 03:51:48 +0000 UTC]
that's alrighto! tbh i don't particularly care what's done with these guys(i mean, within reason), so an anthro AU with different eyes is cool by me.
alrighto! sorry about that, i kind of have the social skills of a rock ;u;
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-24 03:56:42 +0000 UTC]
I wouldn't say that. you cared enough about them to get back to me and set up some rules. it's clear you don't have everything figured out since this is an old species but hey, it allowed you to think about things
Also no worries. I have trouble socializing too. After "hi, how are you?" I am usually stumped
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-24 04:05:07 +0000 UTC]
hmmm,,, I think it's more than that I LOOOOVVVEE world building and nerding things the heck up. my idea of fun kind of aligns with Industrial Grade world building, phylogeny, and Wikipedia articles :V
although, it is indeed pretty fun to dig up an old thing and improve it! c:
SAME. ;u;
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-24 04:11:00 +0000 UTC]
well I am happy to help any way I can
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-25 03:13:15 +0000 UTC]
*hugs back* c:Β
(also, just updated the art for this?? thats a thing)
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-25 03:17:54 +0000 UTC]
*pets your head* you have done well my apprentice. They are utterly adorable! WE MUST MAKE AN ARMY! AN ARMY!
by the way, mind telling me if my design will cut it with these guys? (he was originally gonna be an arcanus)
Male Base By Velkss-dar1egp
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-25 03:21:21 +0000 UTC]
;u;
YES. CONQUER THE WORLD WITH FLASHLIGHT PUPPERS.
seems alright! (aside from needing to be translated from Arcanus to Lux Interius)
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-25 03:25:41 +0000 UTC]
Maybe one day we will add more than one trait, add more creativity!
Glad you like it! Hopefully I can make something good.
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-25 03:28:58 +0000 UTC]
you're welcome!
and I'm sure you will c:Β
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-25 03:32:23 +0000 UTC]
There is only one thing to do at a time like this.
*holds you up like Simba* IT'S THE CIRCLE OF LIIIIIIIFE!
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-25 03:38:13 +0000 UTC]
lmao!
THE CIIIIRRRCLE OF LIIIIIGHHHTT
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-25 03:40:58 +0000 UTC]
AND IT ILLUMES US ALLLLL!
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-25 03:47:20 +0000 UTC]
why did you decide to make the flashlight pups tailess?
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Incyray In reply to Aristotrash [2018-04-25 03:50:30 +0000 UTC]
I don't know, actually. I first make them way back in 2015, and haven't touched them much since until now, so who know :V
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Aristotrash In reply to Incyray [2018-04-25 03:54:17 +0000 UTC]
COMRADE! FOR MOTHERLAND!
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CaptainGlitch [2016-08-08 10:54:21 +0000 UTC]
I wish these were a real animal XD
I would totally have one
I'm so afraid of the dark omfg
May I make one please?
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CaptainGlitch In reply to Incyray [2016-08-11 21:37:30 +0000 UTC]
I know they always have dark colors but may I give mine a white "Goatee"?
(I'll try and find an example)
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