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TreyThornton19 [2020-05-16 19:16:05 +0000 UTC]
Thatβll be cool or awesome if she returns she will help Goku and her friends in a canon. ^^
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jamerson1 In reply to TreyThornton19 [2020-05-16 19:38:46 +0000 UTC]
That would be awesome, i still very salty about how bandai and arc system works ruin her entire character and potential, they also made her characterization one of the worst characterizations ever
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TreyThornton19 In reply to jamerson1 [2020-05-16 20:00:46 +0000 UTC]
Is that make it worst?
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jamerson1 In reply to TreyThornton19 [2020-05-16 20:12:53 +0000 UTC]
At least fan fiction stories and dragon ball fan mangas done a better job at portraying and characterizing Android 21
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TreyThornton19 In reply to jamerson1 [2020-05-16 20:15:38 +0000 UTC]
oh, well if they were going to do a new manga of Good Android 21 returns thatβll be great and have a playable of her in the game.
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jamerson1 In reply to BigE365 [2020-05-07 00:12:29 +0000 UTC]
It would be so great, but i don't trust Toei Animation due to how bad they were will dragon ball super and z, in terms of their bad writing
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Club-Dreamiverse [2019-11-10 21:54:25 +0000 UTC]
That's cool. Care to reply to a note I've sent you?
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pralayaoblivion42 [2019-05-11 20:17:19 +0000 UTC]
Battle of God's would be perfect, whis just use his staff and find her, because they were short one saiyan.Β
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jamerson1 In reply to pralayaoblivion42 [2019-05-18 10:33:13 +0000 UTC]
But how is he going to find her though? she is very likely completed after the buu saga ended
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pralayaoblivion42 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-18 20:06:24 +0000 UTC]
21 is less than 10 years old, she might have needed the time to fully mature or the machine needed too make her majin side be a transformation, so maybe this 21 would look like a mix of the base and majin, her hunger might not exist but bulma could fix that later on, I saw a picture of this fusion I'll try and find it.
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jamerson1 In reply to pralayaoblivion42 [2019-05-18 22:27:21 +0000 UTC]
Have you seen a video when Good 21 was talking about how many years she has been an Android? when i always think about it, she is actually talking about her existence as an android. a lot of us know she used to be a grown human woman before she was turn into an Android. Also she lost most of her human memories too after that, Dragon Ball Fighterz is so terrible at explaining every single detail in the game, i just wish people who haven't pay attention to the cutscene along with them need to stop believing that she is a 10 year old child like idiots
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pralayaoblivion42 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-19 03:33:19 +0000 UTC]
I saw it, she is the wife of Gero and had the son 16 8s based on, also cell is like 6, no idea why people talk about that, thanks to piccolo and maybe buu, she only need 3 years to fully mature, and is a immortal being, that will never age, the saiyan's and frieza just made her potential crazy, good 21 having none of the power and than she just fights a few clones and become evil 21 after absorbing cell level. Its crazy
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jamerson1 In reply to pralayaoblivion42 [2019-05-19 03:52:18 +0000 UTC]
I always hated the idea of Majin Android 21, it is just a recycle unoriginal idea from the trash bin that was come up by dimps and bandai, she is nothing but an annoying character in my opinion, i was never a huge fan of good 21 being killed off by the spirit bomb for dumb reasons, on top of that the stupid writers of dragon ball fighterz just fuck her up without giving her a second chance to be bought back to life nor come back, it is just frustrating that they ruined her entire potential and her character, her not coming back in the end just robbed people of her coming back but no they didn't give her a second chance, which is why i stop giving a shit about dragon ball fighterz because of the writers killing my interest in the game, now it's dead inside of me
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pralayaoblivion42 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-19 04:08:23 +0000 UTC]
She was at her best when she was human, she was like a evil bulma. Which I thought would be a far better idea, not literally that, just a story of what if bulma made herself a android, she lost everything in trunks timeline, and she needed to protect him, why not have this one, as a timeline with her having a cell idea incase she died, a protector of trunks and the world. I think cell would be a better villain if bulma made him, he's literally only made to fill the threat that ruined trunks timeline. Why not have cell go bad, present bulma fixed it and made upgrades, and added her own Gene's and maybe she tried to evolve the Gene's and that's how 21 split from good and bad, or bulma is the good, the evil could look like the cell absorbed one
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jamerson1 In reply to pralayaoblivion42 [2019-05-19 04:13:56 +0000 UTC]
What's pretty sad, is that the writers of fighterz had done such a bad job with the terrible use of 21 along with their bad direction with her, they ruined her entire character for good, it's unfortunate that they didn't even bother to give her a happy ending that she deserves for all of the bullshit she went through but no they chose to get her killed by the spirit bomb, may i say it's bullshit, the spirit bomb does not harm anyone with a good heart, it only harm those with an evil heart, it annoys me that 21 is just another wasted potential ruined character to add to the thousands of wasted potential ruined throw away characters into Dragon Ball Heroes, it's like they throw her away like she is wasted garbage
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pralayaoblivion42 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-19 04:26:36 +0000 UTC]
I think super made it as a attack that can kill anyone, goku didn't die but using it on jiren must have been because it's just a op move, they change stuff all of the time in db. But the fact she is in xenoverse makes me think they just wanted too have her in another game franchise. They literally could have bulma fix her or wish it away, I instantly thought about that when it was mentioned, but the games will just have it mixed with magic or what I said before
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pralayaoblivion42 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-18 20:02:33 +0000 UTC]
The staff seems to know everything, the lab had her made almost 10 years before the tournament of power. They just look for the closest saiyan around and they find her
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jamerson1 In reply to pralayaoblivion42 [2019-05-19 01:14:48 +0000 UTC]
Hmmmmmm, i do believe that the Android 21 arc is after the universe 6 and 7 tournament for which it would make sense
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pralayaoblivion42 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-19 03:29:11 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, her whole being finished being made 10 years ago and the part of time it's in is really confusing. Black is in it I think after the first dlc or he was in it at the beginning, but now jiren and Videl are in it so maybe 10 years after the tournament of power, or sooner, xenoverse had time travel to fix that problem
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MultiversePalooza [2019-05-10 14:53:43 +0000 UTC]
I'd love it if Good Android 21 was canon. I'd love it if Evil Android 21 was canon too. I still love them both.
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jamerson1 In reply to MultiversePalooza [2019-05-12 00:38:22 +0000 UTC]
It would be cool asf, like people said Akira Toriyama will make her canon, when she is popular enough with the fans, hopefully he'll fix all of the horrible mess that the writers of fighterz had done that ruins her character and screwing her over
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MultiversePalooza In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-12 00:59:41 +0000 UTC]
I think the game was perfect, and they all did a great job.
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jamerson1 In reply to MultiversePalooza [2019-05-12 01:25:01 +0000 UTC]
Not really, the writers of fighterz done such a bad job of trying to make the three story modes interesting but they failed miserably, they should have at least ask Akira Toriyama to write the scripts for 21 and the three story modes, because they don't know what they are doing with it, so yeah i'm never giving fighterz a chance ever again, since i stop watching it on YouTube, especially my interest in the game has died last year
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MultiversePalooza In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-12 01:26:12 +0000 UTC]
Thats your opinion. I like it and I'll continue to like it.
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jamerson1 In reply to MultiversePalooza [2019-05-12 01:46:54 +0000 UTC]
I disagree about the story being good, it is never good to begin with, besides people hated it so much for being so terrible and boring, they hated the story even more with the writers pulling some dumb bullshit that robbed them away from good 21 being killed by the spirit bomb for stupid reasons, so yeah we all know dragon ball fighterz's story modes were the worst and weakest point of the game, case closed
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MultiversePalooza In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-12 01:49:33 +0000 UTC]
Again thats YOUR opinion. I thought it was great, I loved all of it, the story, the characters, I thought all of it was awesome and cool! If you and others didn't like it, GOOD FOR YOU. I will stick to my opinion just like you're sticking to yours. Thanks and have a blessed day!
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jamerson1 In reply to MultiversePalooza [2019-05-12 02:00:15 +0000 UTC]
Your just BEING so delusional and can't accept that the story mode is just terrible, it's not an opinion though, i'm just speaking the truth that the story modes are just so horrible and boring, why can't we just agree that the story is just painfully bad with the bad writing, it's their fault for wasting her potential nor give her a second chance to come back to life, but no they throw her away into super dragon ball heroes with thousands of wasted potential characters who got fucked over by stupid plot holes without them given a second chance to come back
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MultiversePalooza In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-12 02:17:26 +0000 UTC]
Dude at the end of the day, they are all just fictional characters. I truly liked the game and story and remember, death really doesn't mean much in DragonBall because they have the dragonballs to wish people back to life. And besides Goku with Beerus did say that they were gonna talk to King Yemma about Good 21 coming back via reincarnation. Remember I like Good 21 too and I do also wish they'll do more with her in the future, the same for evil 21 as well because I like them both and you can't be mad at that because it's MY opinion. But I mean what I say and you can't get mad at my decision, like me liking Evil 21 and liking this game and story. Just calm down and let it go. You are wasting your time trying to forcibly change my opinion. Just give up and let it go.
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GoldenWraith [2019-05-10 01:30:20 +0000 UTC]
Well, I think that would be an awesome thing! To answer that question, I think she would (I don't know if Xenoverse and/or Dragon Ball Legends is canon, but in the event that it is) end up being saved by a Time Patroller due to Fu's intervention. As a result, the reflux of that history being altered made other catalysts in the future as Elder Kai said, resulting in Giblet being sucked in a time rift and having his memory distorted among many others. That said, if 21's Good and Evil selves were presented in one of Xenoverse 2's later Ultra Packs (the first one containing Super Saiyan God Vegeta so far), I think that would give her a saving grace, considering how Toriyama treated her.
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jamerson1 In reply to GoldenWraith [2019-05-10 02:01:29 +0000 UTC]
For what i can understand, someone told me that Xenoverse and Dragon Ball Heroes were connected, for which Android 21 will very likely come to Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2, Akira Toriyama is never actually involved with giving Android 21 a writing script, it was the writers from Fighterz who wrote her script and story in a very horrible way, their direction with Android 21 was very disappointing
I'm going to be honest, back when Goku mentions the fact that he'll speak to King Yemma about reincarnating 21 just like with Uub, i always hated the idea for 21 to be reincarnated, this "reincarnation" bullshit is nothing but a dumb excuse that was added into the story's script to write Android 21 out, so that those stupid writers won't ever be acted upon it but people got mad at them for ruining her character and making the story so bad that people don't care about the story
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GoldenWraith In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-10 03:22:25 +0000 UTC]
Oh. Well, still, it'd be nice if Toriyama would be the one to write her in Dragon Ball Super's story this time so that the mistakes from the writers of DB FighterZ would not be repeated. Speaking of, I have her lined up as a main character in two of my stories on fanfiction.net named "Warriors of Hope" and "Universe War" if you're interested.
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jamerson1 In reply to GoldenWraith [2019-05-10 04:49:01 +0000 UTC]
I'm very interested in Warriors of hope and universe war, but i can't seem to find those two stories
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GoldenWraith In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-10 04:55:20 +0000 UTC]
Maybe try looking at my profile as OmegusXIII.
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KaijuMaster107 [2019-05-10 00:52:28 +0000 UTC]
Shes still mega popular especially in japan! And toriyama said if she becomes popular enough he will make her canon. I mean he made broly canon for some reason a character that existed for more than 20 years is now canon. Yet she kinda got screwed over if u ask me. She was the only new character he designed with an interesting backstory.
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jamerson1 In reply to KaijuMaster107 [2019-05-10 01:14:40 +0000 UTC]
Wait Akira Toriyama really did said it about making 21 canon? because i don't believe if it is true or not, i hate to ask, unless i see evidence of him saying that about 21
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jamerson1 In reply to KaijuMaster107 [2019-05-10 01:37:37 +0000 UTC]
Oh okay, let's be honest, it is rather disappointing that they throw Android 21 away into Super Dragon Ball Heroes with thousands of wasted potential characters who got fucked over by stupid plot without giving them and Android 21 a second chance to come back
It just makes me so mad about it, when Goku mentioned that he'll talk to King Yemma about reincarnated 21, i always hated the idea for 21, this "reincarnation" bullshit is nothing but a lame ass excuse written into the story to write Android 21 out of the story, so that those stupid writers won't ever be acted upon but an angry group of people called them out on their bullshit for ruining her character
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KaijuMaster107 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-10 01:59:45 +0000 UTC]
well toriyama only designed her dude he didnt write that plothole filled story that was fighterZ
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jamerson1 In reply to KaijuMaster107 [2019-05-10 02:07:03 +0000 UTC]
Actually it was the writers for Fighterz for making such a horrible mess, that people don't care about the story in fighterz nor got so bored because of grinding and fighting the same clones gets boring fast
It was consider the weakest point of the game, it felt badly written and rushed, due to the fact that people feel so Robbed about the ending cutscene with 21 coming back didn't bother to show in the game
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KaijuMaster107 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-10 02:11:47 +0000 UTC]
The game was just promoting 21 because she was the new character. So they half assed the story and hers as well
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jamerson1 In reply to KaijuMaster107 [2019-05-10 04:58:20 +0000 UTC]
I heard that in the three story mode in fighterz, a lot of people including myself have trust issues to not trust good android 21, when i've been watching every single boring three story modes, the 1st and 2nd arc fully made me not trust her because of her actions as i find her a monster, But i was wrong to hate her for being a monster who killed 16 who was claimed to be her son, since his job was to stop his mom from going berserk, until i see the third story with her in it, i was surprised that she is a sweet person, while i was watching the third story, but i still haven't trust her yet even she turns out to be a sweet person
I can only trust good android 21 when she us no longer one with her annoying bad half, which is the reason why i never make an assumption that weather or not a character is good or evil, until i saw enough said of her character back in 2018, i can never ever trust good android 21 when she has an evil persona lurking within her, so yeah it is to this day that i have a lot of trust issues with good 21 when her bad half is still part of her
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KaijuMaster107 In reply to jamerson1 [2019-05-10 06:48:46 +0000 UTC]
well they did seperate but regardless her hunger was still their ya know?
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jamerson1 In reply to TolkarDragon18 [2019-05-10 00:45:40 +0000 UTC]
A lot of people wanted Android 21 to be canon into the canon dragon ball story
It is rather sad that the writers made Android 21 into a pretty disappointing and rushed character. it's their fault for Wasting her entire potential if you ask me :/
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jamerson1 In reply to TolkarDragon18 [2019-05-10 00:58:39 +0000 UTC]
To be honest, they wasted her potential in a terrible use of 21, for which it made me stop caring about dragon ball fighterz, because of the story mode is just so horrible and boring, they ruined her entire character for good, it's unfortunate that they aren't giving her second chance to be wish back to life, they didn't even bother to give her a happy ending that she deserves for all of the bullshit she went through
but no they chose to get her killed by the spirit bomb, may i say it's bullshit, the spirit bomb does not harm anyone with a good heart, it only harm those with an evil heart, it annoys me that 21 is just another wasted potential ruined character to add to the thousands of wasted potential ruined throw away characters into Dragon Ball Heroes, it's like they throw her away like she is wasted garbage to them to throw her away into Super Dragon Ball Heroes
I am never going to give Dragon Ball Fighterz a second chance ever again, because of them doing such a bad job with the story and ruining Android 21's character
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