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JohannesVIII In reply to Jobobobo [2020-10-20 15:08:40 +0000 UTC]

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JohannesVIII In reply to LittleSnaketail [2020-05-10 20:17:54 +0000 UTC]

Most of the time I don't draw sad things...

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LittleSnaketail In reply to JohannesVIII [2020-05-12 06:13:35 +0000 UTC]

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JohannesVIII In reply to Spiraler3 [2020-05-10 20:14:13 +0000 UTC]

Owwww

"You understand me better than any other human!" hahaha OUCH

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JohannesVIII In reply to TardisGhost [2020-05-10 13:19:55 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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JohannesVIII In reply to lungbarrow32 [2020-05-10 09:12:04 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that's the idea. This manipulative idiot is always texting the Doctor just after some really bad stuff happened.

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lungbarrow32 In reply to JohannesVIII [2020-05-10 19:10:25 +0000 UTC]

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JohannesVIII In reply to PaulHanley [2020-05-10 09:12:11 +0000 UTC]

Thanks!

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JohannesVIII In reply to QuazarShark [2020-05-09 21:35:26 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome.

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JohannesVIII In reply to le-letha [2020-05-09 20:30:06 +0000 UTC]

My brain has been sending me buckets of Sad Feelings about these two for MONTHS now and at some point if I don't share the pain I'm going to explode into a ball of angst so basically, thanks for joining me

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le-letha In reply to JohannesVIII [2020-05-09 21:35:27 +0000 UTC]

I briefly distracted myself with your "Caerdroia" comic - which is gorgeous, by the way, I heard every word in my head and giggled all the way through, thank you for doing such fantastic work on my all-time favorite audiodrama - but the Sad Feelings do indeed come in buckets this past season. I had to stop what I was doing earlier and go do something productive while whining "Why can't you two just love each other and not be idiots?" every so often. Maybe I can route some of it into the story I'm writing (which does indeed have Thirteen and the Master sniping at each other).

And yet I'm still looking forward to any more art of these two you might be moved to create. The Feelings are complicated things.

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JohannesVIII In reply to le-letha [2020-05-09 22:01:59 +0000 UTC]

You know, I thought no Master would ever replace Missy for me. Before Missy... happened, my favorite had been the audio one played by Alex MacQueen, and I thought my mind was made, but no, I loved Missy when she first appeared. And then they gave her this semi-redemption arc later and it was fascinating to watch, and that ending was perfect in every way but also a heartbreak and a half.

And at that point I was like 'how the HELL can they write a new Master after that. If the new incarnation continues in that direction, how do you write a repented Master without losing the basics of the character entirely? And if you don't, how the f█ck can you write an evil Master after what just happened?'

And then Dhawan!Master happened. And he's very much on the evil side. And some people say he HAS to be pre-Missy, and some (like me) don't, and it doesn't really matter to me in the end, because we've had conflicted Masters before, and god knows Missy was fantastic on that front, but it didn't came with the destructive and suicidal amount of self-hatred this new incarnation displays between the evil plans and the gloating and everything. If he's pre-Missy, that works 100%. If he's post-Missy like I like to think he is... isn't that perfect for a character who's past selves killed each other??

And I wish it didn't speak to me on such a personal level, but 15 years ago or so, back when I was a teenager I was a little ball of rage and borderline toxic, because the only way I found to express "being masculine" at the time was "be an edgy piece of shit and lash out at anyone who's trying to help you", and that was combined with a "hi I'd really really like to die if that's not too much to ask" mentality. OBVIOUSLY we're years and years later now & I've changed a lot and I'm in a MUCH better place now, and I'm mostly gentle and stuff, and I look at that time of my life saying "Yikes, Mate"

And uh

Yeah

Back to Doctor Who ; we now have a new Master who's a small ball of rage and self-hatred who hurts people just to prove how evil and edgy and badass he is, and at the same time who looks like he's about to break down and cry at every second and who really really f█cking wants to die. And I, uh. Feel this in my soul?? And I want to grab him by the lapels and shake him and yell WHY. ARE YOU. LIKE THIS. STOP BEING LIKE THIS.

d'you feel me

What I'm trying to say is that I don't necessarily want them to 'love each other and not be idiots' as you said but they have Issues(tm) and they need to talk. And also they need a hug. Well the Master deserves a punch to the face first. But still.

Well that was long. The Feelings wanted to get out and I'm bad with words so this resulted in word vomit. Sorry

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le-letha In reply to JohannesVIII [2020-05-09 22:36:42 +0000 UTC]

I do. I do feel it. No, please don't apologize - this is very interesting to read and a lot to think about, and it does help me understand the character of this Master and the way he thinks, at least in part.

(And I mean, the "be idiots" part is pretty inherent to the two of them. That's never going away. And I'm not seeing happy peaceful romantic futures, because that's never going to happen, it's not them, but sometimes I just want them to not hate each other.)

Likewise, I adored Missy from the moment we met her. She was the character I didn't know I needed but completely loved, and I was very, very interested in the way her story seemed to be going; she was something I wanted to see, in that she was dangerous and more than a little mad and destructive, but she was almost, for the Master, stable. She and the Doctor were talking to each other, and that's fascinating, because every time we see them actually talking to each other rather than playing their set roles, we learn more. They weren't getting along, but they weren't going out of their way to hurt each other, either. She said "I need my friend back," and I believed her, and it broke my heart. I believed in her every step of the way, and that ending hurt a lot. (And still does.) At the time I remember people saying that "Oh, that's it for this character entirely, Moffatt has killed off the Master for good," and I was all, "No. No, no, no, absolutely not."

Initially I was one of the people who strongly believed that this Master is the one before Missy, because I was so damn proud of Missy, but I'm coming around to the idea that he might not be. I can see how we got from Missy to this Master, because his past selves literally, as you said, killed each other, and that's a shock, plus he found out afterwards that the central pivot of his life wasn't what he thought it was. The way I see the Master, it's always about the Doctor - the Master's always the one to start these fights, he puts effort into it, he can't be the Doctor's whole world so he'll damn well make the Doctor hurt for that, and I think it's always been that way for them. And now, if the Doctor's something else entirely, he can't compete. To the Master, what is there left to live for? How does he come back from that? So he's gone right back to hating everything including himself. If he doesn't have anything left to live for, he will absolutely take everything down with him. And for this comic especially, I can see the parallels between this elaborate lie of his and the "lie" he feels like the Doctor has been telling to him all along. But damn, it hurts.

Oh, the big sad eyes... They cast this Master very well.

And while I am here to talk about Doctor Who, I am sorry that you went through that time in your, and I am very glad you got through it and came out in a better place.

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JohannesVIII In reply to le-letha [2020-05-10 09:18:37 +0000 UTC]

Thanks.

And yeah, I'm a sucker for identity crisis stories and arcs (and now you get why Eight and Twelve are my fave Doctors haha), and this latest season, while flawed in many ways, had that in spades. And yeah, with the current Master there's also this feeling of "If I'm no longer an evil bastard, who and what am I supposed to be". And oh god yeah, the casting. This actor is brilliant.

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