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Description Listening to the people of the UK post-referendum and the display of complete and utter ignorance and stupidity......f**k it. Just let the place burn.
Let the place burn and let the fire be a warning to the rest of the planet: pay attention to the world around you and don't throw away the chance for unity, regardless of how tiny a sliver it may be.
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Fallendragonwolf [2016-07-20 22:49:26 +0000 UTC]

Wait! Let me get Tomska, all the good British Call of Duty gamers, and all good British artists! First being you.

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The-Psychonaut [2016-07-17 21:56:58 +0000 UTC]

 Don't you think you're, perhaps, just listening to the self-interested, pro-EU hype about this referendum? Some people have post-vote misgivings, sure, buuuut, what about those in the leave camp? Where's the journalistic pursuit to record that demographic? This is barefaced, biased journalism. 

 

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brutus87 [2016-07-17 21:34:12 +0000 UTC]

Some people just want to watch the world burn

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SoulStormHNS [2016-07-15 15:39:15 +0000 UTC]

BURN!

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bruiser128 [2016-07-13 02:45:33 +0000 UTC]

Since the UK populace was that stupid and ignorant in the referendum, I thought why not just LET them suffer for it. Especially when Scotland chooses vote out of Great Britain to rejoin the EU.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-17 22:17:08 +0000 UTC]

 How is it stupid and ignorant to divorce yourself from a government you pay taxes to with no genuine say in how those taxes are spent? Or who can or can't enter your country? Or how you can cultivate your own natural resources, like, say, the fishing grounds right off your coast? 

 I mean, speaking as an American, tell me if this sounds at all familiar: an imperial government forcing taxes without local input or approval, forcing the compulsory importation of undesirables (convicts and derelicts in our case), all the while offering tax-breaks on imperially controlled goods (that was the tea tax that resulted in the Boston tea party). Britain saw the writing on the wall and ducked out; and I applaud the generation who actually tackled fascism for leading the charge. The influx of middle eastern Muslims, from countries with barbaric and backwards, if any, concepts of civil rights, is rapidly and radically mutilating europe's political landscape. There is a rape epidemic among the Muslim immigration populace and its transforming places like peaceful, progressive Brussels into hellholes. But because these immigrants were so foolishly and so overwhelmingly admitted into the EU they have a pass to go anywhere inside its borders. Britain was wise to cut ties before the bigoted and barbaric tide rolled in. Now they have say again over who does and doesn't belong in their country, like all countries have licence to declare. England isn't a charity, it should be discerning and it should have an extensive screening process for individuals and demographics who might be diametrically opposed to the tenets of liberal democracy.

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ToaArcan In reply to The-Psychonaut [2017-10-29 13:56:04 +0000 UTC]

Ah, so we'll divorce ourselves from Brussels, because we pay taxes to them with no say in how they're spent, and give everything to Westminster, who we shall pay taxes to with no actual say in how they are spent. 

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The-Psychonaut In reply to ToaArcan [2017-10-29 15:04:13 +0000 UTC]

 Then, I don't know, fix your government by getting involved. 

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ToaArcan In reply to The-Psychonaut [2017-10-29 15:13:46 +0000 UTC]

Nah, the honest politicians never get elected. It always comes down to either Labour or the Conservatives, with the other parties only serving to hinder or help the big two by leeching votes from one or the other. Hell, the only reason the referendum happened was because David Cameron was worried that UKIP was going to leech votes from the Tories during the election that came just prior to it. 

You go up there as an "honest man" and you'll either be ignored entirely by the Tories, who only care for rich people that tow the party line, or, if you do manage to get into a position of power in Labour, you're just going to be tarred and feathered by the right-wing newspapers, given lukewarm response by the BBC, and met with an uninformed shit-slinging from dumbass online commentators like Sargon of Thermite.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to ToaArcan [2017-10-29 16:01:11 +0000 UTC]

See, what we have here is a fine example of mistaking fashionable cynicism for political fluency; while putting Labor on a cross, like it's some kind of martyr. No offense, dude, I'm sure you mean well, but...
 

 Honestly, if you want to minimize your government's corruption, you have to do two things immediately: 1)get government funding out of formal education; and 2) de-politicize your money supply; get it out of the hands of politicians. Get rid of your national bank and get rid of your "progressive" income tax. Until you're willing to even consider doing ANY of those things all you're EVER going to get is just two sides of the same socialist coin; and socialism---when you scrape off its academic mysticism, classist phobia, economic illiteracy, and altruistic despotism---is just mercantilism with lip stick. Tories? Labor? It's all the same horseshit and it's all bad for your country. It's all just demagoguery wearing a different mask. 'Give me votes and I'll take shit from people you hate and give it to people you like!'  The Tories are just the guys easing up on the gas: your country's still going off a cliff. Same as mine; because of the unholy marriage of business and government (which is what you get in any planned economy): because, shockingly, the politicians so fashionably mocked don't become more virtuous the more power you give them. 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhelSu…

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Alexg47 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-08 22:14:08 +0000 UTC]

"The influx of middle eastern Muslims, from countries with barbaric and backwards, if any, concepts of civil rights, is rapidly and radically mutilating europe's political landscape. There is a rape epidemic among the Muslim immigration populace and its transforming places like peaceful, progressive Brussels into hellholes. But because these immigrants were so foolishly and so overwhelmingly admitted into the EU they have a pass to go anywhere inside its borders. Britain was wise to cut ties before the bigoted and barbaric tide rolled in." Oh, yeah, because you're not a bigot too. But oh well, what's done is done.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to Alexg47 [2016-08-09 03:32:31 +0000 UTC]

 If by "bigot" you mean I, a humanist atheist, refuse to fashionably apologize for a faith and culture that necessarily deifies a war mongering, slave-raping pedophile, then....yeah: I guess I am a bigot. Your move, bro. But first climb over some facts like half of British muslims wanting homosexuality to be banned; or the rape epidemic in Sweden, committed mostly by middle eastern Muslim immigrants; or the Pew Research surveys of Muslims in predominately Islamic countries: where support for shariah law is one in ten or higher. In most places it's roughly 50% or more. Shariah law, by the way, is the same law that says if you convert from Islam to another country your family can kill you www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XRCYl… .  This is a barbaric culture that needs to grow up and stop taking its bronze age nonsense seriously. Islam is not a race, it's a toxic ideology that, like Christianity, like Judaism, like religion in general, needs to go away. Voluntarily. After being subject to the unflinching and transparent scrutiny of  progressive modernity; which is most prominent in western liberal democracies, the US being but one (albeit the most liberal in its views of free speech). Whereas UK governments ban bikini ads and bully dog videos, we actually still believe---however much the coffee house liberal collegiates opine and whine and whinge---in the abilities to say whatever the fuck we want. I invite you to exercise that same right. Too bad the culture you're defending, in general, in the places where it is prominent, where shariah law informs or is the printed law, they don't share the same point of view.  

 Brexit was the best decision the British have made in decades. They put the power BACK in the hands of their people.

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Alexg47 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-09 13:05:45 +0000 UTC]

Oh, I was hoping we could agree to disagree, but no. Ok, I'll humour you and see what you have to say.

"humanist atheist" First, if you really were a humanist, you would know one of it's principles is "an interest in securing justice and fairness in society and in eliminating discrimination and intolerance", something you clearly don't understand. Second, being a atheist is not an excuse for ignorance.
"But first climb over some facts like half of British muslims wanting homosexuality to be banned" But only 4.6% of British people are Muslim, so that's a non-issue, it's just you trying to make me hate them.
"the Pew Research surveys of Muslims in predominately Islamic countries: where support for shariah law is one in ten or higher. In most places it's roughly 50% or more" Well of course it is, what part of "predominately Islamic countries" doesn't make sense?
"Shariah law, by the way, is the same law that says if you convert from Islam to another country your family can kill you" I agree that's a bad thing, I agree it should be stopped, but it's not as easy as saying "You can't do this anymore", if it was there would be no crime of any kind.
"This is a barbaric culture that needs to grow up and stop taking its bronze age nonsense seriously." Islam didn't exist until the 600's CE.
"Islam is not a race, it's a toxic ideology that, like Christianity, like Judaism, like religion in general, needs to go away. Voluntarily." NO. That will never happen. I'm sorry, but you'd have to be delusional to think that will ever happen. Why do you think all Muslims are bad anyway? Just because half of them agree with something bad doesn't make the other half just as bad. Why do you think religion is bad as well? Are you only saying that because you're a humanist? Are you only saying that because you're an atheist?
"Brexit was the best decision the British have made in decades. They put the power BACK in the hands of their people." Two words. Direct democracy . If what you said was true, that's how the UK would be by now. Why are you asking for this if you don't know what it is?

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The-Psychonaut In reply to Alexg47 [2016-08-09 17:09:40 +0000 UTC]

How are we supposed to "agree to disagree" when you openly called me a bigot to start? I didn't insult you, did I? I will say something, though: it's difficult to be tolerant to a religion that openly and emphatically, multiple times in its scriptures, considers apostasy a capital offense punishable by death. You seem to be reading what you WANT to read in my words, because it's convenient to be outraged. I never once said anything against muslim immigration: just mass, unchecked muslim immigration. There is a HUGE difference. And I challenge you to read what I wrote, not what you feel I wrote, and see for yourself I'm telling the truth. Also, humanism isn't a church. It doesn't have commandments. Humanism just means to be a non-secular person who believes ethics should be founded on logic and reason. Not superstition.

1)I never once said they couldn't practice Islam, I said it needs to go away. Peacefully. Through time. Through exposure to modernity, its superstitions debunked and refuted and disreputed over and over and over again: until it is a source of supreme embarrassment---through sheer exposure to humanist cogency (to ethics founded in logic and reason)---to be superstitious; which is what all religious are. That irrational compulsion to be afraid of the boogie man needs to be relegated to the fancies of children: like the Easter Bunny and Santa Clause. And when I say "needs" I mean "needs" in the sense that "we'd be demonstrably better off without it". I know there're countless stoned gays and burnt-faced female graduates who'd probably agree. It needs to away in the sense that Islam, and religion in general, needs to become (if it must be anything) a private belief, not an intellectual argument. You're seeing extremism, because...well, look who we're talking about. "Go away" only sounds like cultural genocide if you're trained to suspect it. And I wonder, oh I just wonder, what religion or religions might have normalized such suspicions: through violence and actual terrorism. Not through means of open and transparent and free debate and refutation, like what i promote. If you want to believe something believe it, but don't hold it up as an argument; or say I can't criticize or outright deride it. That's my philosophy. 

2)It's precepts are bronze age precepts, because they're derivative of Judaism which, you guessed it, was originated in the bronze age. That's where they shoplifted guys like Moses and Noah and Abraham from for their garbled scriptures: coined well after Muhammed had died. Believe me I could go on and on about the gospels of Christianity. I would only Christians aren't throwing buildings into planes and beheading people on their websites.

3)I said it needs to voluntarily go away by becoming what it is, academically, intellectually and ethically obsolete; because, having ONE and only one prophet, Islam cannot fundamentally change. It can't grow up, the qu'ran, through abrogation, can't get better. Its practitioners, like Christians and Jews, can ignore or apologize their faiths more barbaric precepts, but that's about all they can do. And if that's the case, why call it the word of God? To wit, I believe Steve Fry said it best: www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQb3MG…

4)I don't think all muslims are bad. Show me where I said that. Show me the exact sentence where I said that could even imply that. You can't. I specifically said muslim culture in a specific region. A region with the worst human rights record since Pol Pot, the Middle East. Did I or did I not? 

5)Religion, specifically abrahamic religions, is bad because it teaches people to be good because some unfalsifiable hypothesis, an imaginary friend, tells them to: or else. And "or else!" is always implied if not openly mandated. If not everyone would just ignore the religion. Since ignorance of the law is not an excuse everyone has to bow to, what is invariably a shared description of God in these faiths: the Master. The Lord. Not a wildly democratic notion, I have to say. But if you need more incentive for me to principally despise something---a belief, not a people---then how 'bout the fact that it's a faith-based system. It's not based on evidence, which is intellectually irresponsible if not shamefully and barefacedly dishonest? It's teaching the compulsively to use facts to suit theories not theories to suit facts; and not allowing those precious theories to be subject to universally observable evidence; because they're "just my opinion". At worst, that's a criteria of solipsism; and, at best, it's wishful egomania: why should you be rewarded or punished eternally for what was done in less than a human life span!? It's preposterous and clearly a man-made notion. 

I do know what it is, thank you. I've been following Brexit since about the beginning. Don't presume to dictate what I do or don't know, and I'll do the same for you.

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Alexg47 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-09 23:03:47 +0000 UTC]

Congratulations, you just made me the angriest I've ever been. This is no longer about Bexit, and since you seem to have no respect for anyone, I'm not going to bother with having respect for you, so let me start by saying you are the vilest scum I have ever had the misfortune to meet, and once I'm done typing this I will block you. Call it the coward's way out, I don't f***ing care, but like I said, I was hoping we could agree to disagree, but I see that won't happen until your delusional nightmare comes true.

"I didn't insult you, did I?" No, you just insulted EVERYTHING ELSE.
"You seem to be reading what you WANT to read in my words, because it's convenient to be outraged." That's why agreements like this happen, because people like you do exactly that. I really don't want to be angry, but I just can't ignore your immense ignorance.
"I never once said anything against muslim immigration" Neither did I.
"humanism isn't a church" I didn't say that either, or did my use of the word "principles" confuse you?
"I never once said they couldn't practice Islam" Oh, so "This is a barbaric culture that needs to grow up and stop taking its bronze age nonsense seriously. [...] it's a toxic ideology that [..] needs to go away" doesn't count? I had no idea.

"I said it needs to go away. Peacefully. Through time. Through exposure to modernity, its superstitions debunked and refuted and disreputed over and over and over again: until it is a source of supreme embarrassment---through sheer exposure to humanist cogency (to ethics founded in logic and reason)---to be superstitious" THIS. THIS IS WHY I'M SO ANGRY. THIS IS THE MOST DISGUSTING, IGNORANT, MORONIC THING I HAVE EVER READ. IT. WILL. NEVER. HAPPEN. People have believed in non-logical things since the dawn of time, and they will continue to do so until the end of time. I refuse to believe that you or anyone else can honestly believe such a thing can happen because there is no way to make it happen.

"And when I say "needs" I mean "needs" in the sense that "we'd be demonstrably better off without it"." Name 5 ways we'd be better off, and let's see how much of it is just inane ignorance.
"I know there're countless stoned gays and burnt-faced female graduates who'd probably agree." Religion is basically never the sole cause of these things. What you're really saying is that getting rid of religion will end all terrorism and discrimination, which is just as stupid as saying destroying all guns will end all wars and crime.
"You're seeing extremism, because...well, look who we're talking about." In other words, "All Muslims are terrorists", and don't say that I'm reading what I want to read because how else could I read that?
""Go away" only sounds like cultural genocide if you're trained to suspect it." Go away" sounds like cultural genocide because that's what it is.
"Not through means of open and transparent and free debate and refutation, like what i promote." LIES. If that were true, I wouldn't be typing this because you wouldn't be a ignorant bigot.

"having ONE and only one prophet, Islam cannot fundamentally change. It can't grow up, the qu'ran, through abrogation, can't get better. Its practitioners, like Christians and Jews, can ignore or apologize their faiths more barbaric precepts, but that's about all they can do." And it's all they NEED to do. "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it".
"I don't think all muslims are bad." LIES LIES LIES. Again, if that were true, I wouldn't be typing this because you wouldn't be a ignorant bigot, you'd only care about the people and things that need to be stopped rather than trying to remove all religion.
"Show me where I said that. Show me the exact sentence where I said that could even imply that." I did. TWICE. But let me repeat them so they get through your thick skull: "This is a barbaric culture that needs to grow up and stop taking its bronze age nonsense seriously. [...] it's a toxic ideology that [..] needs to go away" "You're seeing extremism, because...well, look who we're talking about."
"I specifically said muslim culture in a specific region." And yet you still want to get rid of all religion, so thanks for proving my point.

"Religion, specifically abrahamic religions, is bad because it teaches people to be good because some unfalsifiable hypothesis, an imaginary friend, tells them to: or else. And "or else!" is always implied if not openly mandated. If not everyone would just ignore the religion. Since ignorance of the law is not an excuse everyone has to bow to, what is invariably a shared description of God in these faiths: the Master. The Lord. Not a wildly democratic notion, I have to say." And yet 84% of the world is religious even though you make it out to be the worst thing ever.
"It's teaching the compulsively to use facts to suit theories not theories to suit facts; and not allowing those precious theories to be subject to universally observable evidence; because they're "just my opinion"." That may be true, but what you fail to realise is ALL REASON IS BASED ON FAITH. youtu.be/GRNhNHXbUmk?t=1m44s&n… and if you want another example, you may think it's logical to say "the sun will come up tomorrow", but that's based on observation not fact. Again, people have believed in non-logical things since the dawn of time, and they will continue to do so until the end of time.

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Nyerguds In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-03 13:06:42 +0000 UTC]

Sad truth about politics: the masses are dumb, and getting them to vote for something is one big show.

Democracy isn't the ones with the best ideas getting chosen to lead. It's the ones with the best show.

And last I checked Brussels is still a pretty okay place. Though it's been a few weeks since I been there.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to Nyerguds [2016-08-09 03:58:31 +0000 UTC]

 Considering that the people chose who their governors would be, the backbone of any cogent governing system, I'm going to say you're wrong. They're not dumb. If you have to choose between a benign dictator---someone who makes laws you pay for, without any say---and your own publically appointed governors...you pick the governors; it doesn't matter if there's cookies for being complicit. The only people who should boss Britain around are the Brits. 

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Nyerguds In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-09-19 13:05:24 +0000 UTC]

Ironically, benign dictatorship is probably objectively the best type of government you could have.

It never really happens though, because ruling an entire nation on your own is also a really shitty job. So most just mismanage and plunder it instead.

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-17 23:34:29 +0000 UTC]

The reason I have seen is that people are now brought up on the ideas that Political and Judicial systems are run by people who are only interested in lining their own pockets and say whatever to keep in power. 

Also I am glad you admit that these immigrant come from backgrounds where they have only known brutality from other groups like Kurdish Nationalist against the Turks and Arabs, as well as the Sunni vs Shia issues. And yes I remember that mass sexual assualt incident in Germany a few months back.

Speaking as a Canadian, would you say we are naive for being so welcoming to immigrants and there cultures?

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-18 03:35:58 +0000 UTC]

 Well...career politicians are a thing; and a problem. There's no getting around that. There are families of politicians who keep each other in positions of power; there have always been those kinds of people. They're called people with money. We're just, thankfully, more conscientious of their horseshit.

 Speaking as an Arizonian (we're right next to the border, if you don't know), I have encountered and have seen the effects of rampant illegal immigrancy; and it's been reported by journalist, such as Milo Yiannopolous of Breitbart news, that hispanic illegals have a high rate of rape. Is any of this sounding familiar? There's no fixing the problem without admitting the problem. Our prisons are filled to the brim with illegals, criminals, we can't deport because, oh no, that's not very nice. Meanwhile we're subsidizing their prison amenities, and they're not all in tent city. Apaio is not the only sheriff in town. Arizona is a sex trafficking hub in the west because of these so-called immigrants. We have also have a drug problem because we are right next to its source. It also doesn't help things that Sonny Barger lives here. If you don't know, Sonny is the founding VP of the Hells' Angels.

Sigh...Canada...Oh, Canada, you so crazy sometimes. I say this with genuine reverence for your country's achievements and culture (May Robin Williams rest in peace): but you guys are spending a thousand times your population's number, you have a plummeting birth rate and employment rate, and a deficit that's over 300 billion dollars. The last thing you guys should be doing is knocking the hinges off the gates. You should be consolidating your economy, putting your house in order. You have a 7% unemployment rate with a steep incline, almost one in ten of you are either jobless or homeless. You have no business taking in hordes of middle eastern immigrants who are, mostly, just menial labor; with a HUGE language and culture barrier to make them, if not worthless, a bloody nuisance. If you want my frank assessment, I think your prom king prime minister is a lunkhead who's about to virtue signal his way into a rape epidemic: because these are not progressive muslims we're talking about, these are traditionalist muslims; from countries with views very antithetical to our's in the west. Countries where stoning is still a thing; where girls have acid thrown in their faces for going to college; where soldiers rape little boys. These are not snugly countries and that's because they're populated by backwards-thinking assholes; and the Pew Research opinion polls bear witness to this. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-18 12:54:41 +0000 UTC]

Pity others can't see it that way.

Wow I knew the southwestern States were dangerous, but not to THAT degree. 

Not the way I would have put it, but yes it is very difficult to get a job in the profession you graduated in. Although truth be told the place where that is a big problem is Quebec since they actually HAVE native culture to call their own, while the culture of the rest of Canada is weak if non existent. Although truth be told they where ALWAYS a thorn in our side since the Quiet Revolution. 

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-18 21:00:25 +0000 UTC]

Oh, they're not that dangerous (except Albuquerque, which is the murder capital of America). And AZ is gorgeous in a rugged sense www.youramazingplaces.com/ante… commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fil… . It's just, unfortunately, people don't understand---outside of our states---what's going on. See, when an illegal worker wants to get paid, he can't ask for the same wages and oftentimes doesn't; which is okay, he can afford to, because he/she is not paying taxes. That's the best case scenario for their demographic. My mother employed one who waited, like a retard, for his green card to expire; and then decided he wasn't going to try to get a new one---with his kids in-state---because, oh no, they might think he's illegal....he is: that's the problem. He's still illegal. He endangered his family, because he thought American police were the racists...compared to the guy judging them based on the color of their skin. He had a down payment on a house! He fixed his problem, eventually, but that's the best scenario for an illegal; and it requires having soft-hearted employers. The worst are the money-grubbing motherfuckers who short change or rape you in a broom closet because...who are you gonnuh tell? The police? Bye bye, America. The illegals in those situations are basically chattel. Of course, we have no wall, just a chain linked fence, so there's next to nothing to keep the drugs and the doomed sex toys out of our border states: for their own good. And every time we try to transport them, which is our state-assured right, we can't; because reasons from washington. So we're subsidizing somebody else's politically correct piety. 

Quebec? Oh, yeah, yeah, I heard Gavin McGinness talk about that place. Apparently you have to be bilingual, i.e. be fluent in French, but not English, to get a decent job there. If  I'm remembering what he said; I'm just recanting. I'll link you to his video: www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIH-J3… Weak culture? Aren't you guys heavily Scotts-Irish? That's a treasure trove of culture. 

 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-18 21:59:07 +0000 UTC]

From looking at landscape photos, I can would LOVE to go hiking in that place.

Wow, that justifies your reasons for against immigration.

Also this is a good portrayal of the relationship between Canada and Quebec:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N5GzY…

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-18 23:27:56 +0000 UTC]

 Coyote butte features petrified sand dunes and antelope canyon was showcased in National Geographic. They called it "nature's cathedral". If you go up north, there's beautiful pine country; and close to Cali there's the Yuma dunes: where they partially shot Tatooine. 

Nooo, that's an anecdote; and while that might inform some of my opinion, it's hardly a relevant trend worthy of external political scrutiny. I was just illustrating the best case scenario and the worst for illegal immigrants south of the border. I'm all for immigration, don't misunderstand, just legal immigration: the kind that pays back into the system with taxes and requires scrutiny by local and federal government. Even then I have criticisms. It should not take years to get a green card; it's ridiculous: but, that said, I have a Nigerian colleague at work who took five years to get in; and he has an arranged bride back in Niger. While he's allowed by his culture to sow his oats here, and does---this piece of shit complained to me about his girlfriend breaking up with him...the girlfriend his wife has no clue about!---so while he's getting his dick wet, this poor Muslim girl is wearing a chastity belt comprised of her entire family. I asked him if he'd be okay with her sleeping around since he is: and he told me, with no hint of irony or sarcasm, 'Oh, no, I'd beat the shit out of her.' Yyyyeah....we didn't stay desk mates after that. I think Uncle Sam could've done a better job, oh, screening people like that out. In his country, the one he's going back to, gays are outlawed: so, yeah, mmmmaybe 'Merica should be a tad more discerning; when it comes to admitting people from certain regions of the world. Places where being a fag gets you arrested or your head sliced off. Let me be clear, I came from a traditionalist christian household, from Mormons. Before I became an atheist and nonsecular humanist, I was a reputed and scholarly priest. I had grown up with a more lenient mentality when it comes to young marriages, and, yes, even polygamy in other cultures. This dueche canoe, however, bragged to me about being able to have three wives...all while he's still cheating on his current one! I'm sorry, that's despicable. Again, though, I defer to the Pew Research stats, not my personal anecdotes, to inform my political stance. I have stories, but I'm not basing my politics off them.

 The video was unavailable. Is that the joke? Because, if so, that's hilarious.

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-19 01:13:24 +0000 UTC]

Wow for real Star Wars?

Well I can say that immigration to Canada can take weeks to what would
take years to get into the USA. But don't be fooled into thinking that allows
for me vile people to get in, far from it thanks to easy access to information
and thus allowing for thorough background checks. Although the only 
problem I see is immigrants go through all the trouble of getting a degree,
just for some employer here to say that it doesn't follow the nations standard.
This is despite the fact that some of these universities and colleges outclass
EVERY single one in North America. 

Glad you keep your personal opinions outside of politics, 
a trait in people nowadays.

BAsi

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-19 04:02:11 +0000 UTC]

Well, the universities in the middle east aren't exactly...well, how many westerners do you see flocking to baghdad to study astrophysics. See what I mean? Now, if you degrees from, say, Cambridge or Trinity or Oxford, that's a whole nother story. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-19 10:27:53 +0000 UTC]

I was referring to the latter examples actually.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-19 15:00:58 +0000 UTC]

who told you we don't except degrees from Oxford? From Bangladesh, maybe, but Oxford? I'd have to look into it, but that seems far-fetched. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-19 15:07:33 +0000 UTC]

Surprisingly a co-worker I met at Marshalls during my High school Co-op program.
Although later on I learned this mainly applied to the medical profession.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-20 04:13:42 +0000 UTC]

Even then I seriously doubt, speaking as someone with three DDS in my immediate family and a sister going into nursing; but I'd have to consult with them.

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-20 12:55:49 +0000 UTC]

THREE now that is impressive, for me I graduated in Animal Care while my girlfriend s training in ECE.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-20 16:58:48 +0000 UTC]

My point being, I doubt that dentistry in, say England, is so radically backwards (insert Austin Powers joke here)--if backwards at all!--that they'd have difficulty being admitted as practitioners in the states. 

 In the spirit of full disclosure, my two eldest brothers are dentists, my father is a dentist, my eldest sister--who has orthodontic schooling---is a biology major polishing off her masters; and is currently in Costa Rica studying butterflies. My younger brother is a chemical engineer and I am a fine arts major studying to direct animation, besides being a screen writer. 

 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-20 19:23:38 +0000 UTC]

Well dentistry doesn't involve doing precise incisions during a surgery.
Although I now see those standards are near impossible to achieve 
these days.

 WOW that is certainly a diverse family you have there. So if you do
writing, did you practice with things like Fanfics?

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-09 04:05:14 +0000 UTC]

 I forgot something: even in America there's regional prejudice, but it's all to do with boards of dentistry from region to region. My brothers, before they were admitted into AZ's dentistry business, were constantly grinding about the arbitrary standards. The boards would pull the same guild-master bullshit with a British dentist, too. I'd bet money on that. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-09 09:57:07 +0000 UTC]

Regional prejudice does make sense in USA. No offense of course to you.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-09 17:14:09 +0000 UTC]

 Why would I be offended? You're always going to have a East Coast/West Coast mentality in any country. It's why the Carolinas became north and south respectively, and this was before the Civil War, to explain. The distance traveled from one end of the state to the other was so vast that two whole cultures resulted. It happens. You see the same thing with England, Scotland and Northern Ireland: on paper they're all one big happy family, but in practice?
*maniacal laughter*

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-09 17:55:18 +0000 UTC]

Although it's ironic how two different cultures can live peacefully
in the Americas, but not so in the Europe.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-10 03:35:17 +0000 UTC]

well, we try at least. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-10 12:32:04 +0000 UTC]

I think it more has to do with their being no pre estabilished culture to cause clashes with the foreign ones.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-10 15:09:01 +0000 UTC]

Uh...well, our states are named after those cultures. Let's put it like that. Speaking as someone with Seminole blood, wwwwe didn't get along---as a whole---ideally with the preestablished cultures. A lot of that having to do with language barriers and differing and diametric understandings of property rights and genocide. See, the natives were already killing themselves before europeans got there; but when the natives would do things like, say, raid people and make them squaws and so on...we didn't have a common language to broker terms with: we had bullets and a language barrier. The results were all too predictable. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-10 15:20:23 +0000 UTC]

Yeah that is the side of history they never tell in schools in fear
of upsetting Aboriginals.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-10 16:04:08 +0000 UTC]

 Well, I don't think its native americans that're deluded about their past. I think its reservation lobbyists pitching this "noble savage" version of american history. The same idiots who have a problem with a football team's name...even when 80% of native americans don't care or are even in favor of the Red Skin team. You see the same thing with professional black activists like the NAACP or Black Lives Matter: the way those guys tell it, blacks were the only slaves in american history: which is of course ridiculous if you even look at Cherokee culture; where slavery was common place. Of course--- I took a course in Race, Ethnicity and Minorities in college--when you point out the facts like, oh, the Irish and the Scots made up half of the slave trade, were slaves in America before Africans, were sold cheaper than Africans and even so-called "white" children were not immune to this barbarism, it falls on deaf ears. The narrative is just too damn politically profitable for these academic hacks and bigots to give up. What's the most appalling trend is hearing european-descended kids in America parroting this horseshit. White college kids in the US are probably the most self-hating morons I've ever met. They can't simply envision a world where white people weren't on top. They can't see children in London town snatched from the streets and forced to work a plantation. They can't see that, they can't understand that they've been force fed a fraudulent and nefarious binary. Believe me, I could go and have about this subject; it really pissed me off.

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-10 16:57:22 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I knew someone who tried working with Aboriginals in Canada to form their own bank,
but the problem was that the chiefs didn't know jack about finance and were unwilling to
learning. So it was dropped before it even got off the ground.

Black Lives Matter meanwhile has come to Canada believing that African Canadians are 
suffering the same problems as their American counterparts. When in reality they are 
just making mountains out of molehills since we they only suffer getting pulled over 
AT WORST, as well as encouraging further distrust of police and instead rely on gangs
firearms for protection. 

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-11 02:56:56 +0000 UTC]

They're basically the Black Panthers version 2.0.

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-11 11:14:05 +0000 UTC]

With a friendlier face I might add.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-08-11 17:03:40 +0000 UTC]

 clearly you didn't see the yianopolous rally where that girl screamed in his face and started twerking on stage. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-08-11 18:31:29 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I didn't see it.

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-21 04:15:39 +0000 UTC]

Um, nnnno. I mean, yeah: when you're starting out, as a kid writing fantasy, all your shit looks like 'The Hobbit' or 'Star Wars'; but, no, I've never done fan fiction. I've always written original stories. I've got some first drafts of some scripts, but nobody ever gives any feed back on them: so I stopped posting them. 

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bruiser128 In reply to The-Psychonaut [2016-07-21 04:32:27 +0000 UTC]

Well I find that people will give more feedback to stories with already established worlds that they are familiar with. 
Which is the main reasons that fanfictions have gained so much traction for young writers in practicing and 
developing there writing skills. 

Heck I even admitted that an original setting and characters are harder to get invested in and stick with when compared
to some great fanfics I love to power through.

What are your thoughts?

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The-Psychonaut In reply to bruiser128 [2016-07-21 06:29:39 +0000 UTC]

Well, I don't read fan fictions, so I wouldn't know. I don't really like playing in someone else's sand box like that. 

I was posting a script so some readers complained that the format was uncomfortable. It's not the same as writing a novel; a script is one part instruction manual. I've since shared my work with members of my extended family via email, but...they're my family, so there's a conflict of interest in their critiques. Though they have been refreshingly descriptive in what they like and don't, compared to my watchers.  

If you're curious, here's the first draft to my barbarian story: codyrush.deviantart.com/journa… It still needs tweaking, but currently I'm working on the first draft to a princess fairy tale called 'The Polar Bear King'. I put down the epic, so I could polish my script format. 

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