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Published: 2015-06-30 00:38:30 +0000 UTC; Views: 17835; Favourites: 128; Downloads: 300
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Here is a list I did of XNALara/XPS Render Groups. Original list here xnalara.home-forum.com/t225-le… (Thanks XNAaraL )Basically I organized them in groups of alpha and no alpha, according to the amount of textures used in each RG. And I've put together and highlighted the no poseable ones.
I thought someone might find it useful
Things you might want to know:
XNALara/XPS community uses some different names, so here I list the meaning of the ones I've used:
AO (Ambient Occlusion) = Lightmap
Normal (Tangent Space Normals) = Bump
Mini-norm = Mini-bump
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I wish there was one that had "Diffuse, Normal, Emission, & Environment"
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"Diffuse, Normal, Emission, & Environment" is possible: New XPS Render Groups
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Ok, so this list is AMAZING. I reference it EVERY time I do a port CX
Thanks so much for sharing this, and please keep it up here for as long as XPS exists CX
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Sorry for the lalte reply.
Mask is a texture used to give reference on what areas things will be affected by another texture. Mostly used for mini normal textures. In XPS it is used with 2 colors, red and green.
And example would be, lets say you have the texture of a shirt. Now imagine you want some areas of that shirt to have some specific normal/bump texture apart from the one that comes with it. Well, the mask will layer what areas will be affected by this specific normal/bump you want to use.
I hope it's been useful your you
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Thanks for taking the time to reply!
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this is an amazing table, ive been using this for a while now, really helped me out with my models!
however is it possible to get this updated? the new release of XPS has changed a couple of the render groups. (mainly the Environments I believe)
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I'll try. Do you know what exactly are the changes?
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-- My list xnalara.home-forum.com/t225-le… is always actual
-- XPS have (since XPS 11.2 - Wild Hunt Edition ) a "Material Editor" xnaaral.deviantart.com/art/NoM… with tool tips (mouse over effect) for every RG's xnalaraitalia.deviantart.com/a…
Updates for you table are:
- RG 26/27 has now (since XPS 11.7 - Shadow and Reflection Edition ) a optional fourth texture (alpha mask for reflection) --> Diffuse, Bumpmap, enviroment, Mask .. in this order
- RG 34/35 is no longer experimental (since XPS 11.7 - Shadow and Reflection Edition ) and support "real time reflection. Diffuse, Bumpmap, Specular --> xnaaral.deviantart.com/art/Mir…
- New RG 42/43 (since [BugFix Release] XPS 11.7.1 - Repeater Edition ) Diffuse, Bumpmap, Specular-mini-map
This is (so far) everything.
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Thanks. I'll try to update it when I have some time.
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from what I gather, the changes to render groups 26/27 are now diffuse, bump, Alpha Mask, and Environment. (I put alpha mask as you have to use the alpha channel to create the mask map)
I think there might be others, but I haven't used those or seen them as yet xD
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Thanks for the excellent chart, Junky! *hugs you*
This really helped me fix a bunch of the models I'm porting, I was finally able to get the transparency fixed on a bunch of them, thanks to you <3
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I'm glad you find it useful
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Pretty much what it says. The existing XNALara/XPS render groups until the date, but organized by the use or non use of alpha values according to the ammount of textures supported.
I find it nicer and easier to find the RG needed.
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Oh, well. Lets start from the beginning.
Do you know what the RG in XPS are and how they work? I mean, not the technique stuff, but as a XNALara/XPS user
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A great table!
This is why I browse other user's "Favorites". Never can tell what you will find.
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Browsing other users "Favorites" is a good choice.
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Cool! This is very useful! I was just recently wondering about these render group numbers as I am just getting into customizing XNA models in blender and such.
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I'm glad you find it useful. Enjoy
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Wow! I was need this inform! Great thanks for you!
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I'm glad you find it useful
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nunca entendi esto de los rendergroups, si un dia tienes tiempo podrias explicarmelo? Quiza asi conseguiria mejor calidad en mis mods
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Cada RG tiene un uso limitado de texturas. Dependiendo de las texturas que quieras usar, tienes que elegir que RG te conviene más. Aun así, habrá veces que tendrás que hacer tus propios "inventos" para cada modelo, debido al limite de cada RG.
Por eso quiero el nuevo formato NGFF, que solo hay que poner texturas y no preocuparse de estos RG. Seguramente seguirán habiendo límites, pero siempre será mejor que tener que usar un RG en funcion de las texturas que queramos usar
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Traemos una guía detallada ... Un proceso un poquito difícil, pero sumamente gratificante.
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Lo sé
Aquí solo intento hacerlo un poco más simple y actractivo.
Es una tabla que he hecho para mi. La he organizado en base al uso de alpha o no y tambien he separado los RG que no soportan movimiento. Me resulta más fácil y cómodo así. Y he pensado en compartirla pensando que a alguien más le podría ser útil
Igualmente he puesto el enlace de la tabla original para que la gente le eche un vistazo si necesitan más detalles. Sin la tabla original no podría haber hecho esta
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eso estaria bien, pero es posible crear ese nuevo formato?
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En principio sí. Creo que tienen que hacer un nuevo shader que permita utilizar todas las texturas y luego hacer que las reconozca en función de como estén nombradas. Ahí es donde los usuarios tendremos que acostumbrarnos a usar un estandar para nombrar las texturas.
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I thought it might be, you're welcome
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Is the list of the existing render groups of XNALara/XPS, but organized in a way I personally find easier to work with
What don't you understand?
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Don't understand all XD
I know you are teaching me about render of Xnalara, but I don't understand everything in your table
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Well, each RG has a limited amount of textures you can use. Here I show the current existing RG for XPS, wich you can find the original table in the link of the description. I just organized them by the ones that uses alpha and the ones that don't, according to the number of textures they use. And I've separated the no poseable ones.
For example, RG 3 uses 2 textures, diffuse and lightmap; but no alpha support. RG 9 uses the same amount of textures, but with alpha support. Therefore I put them together and used the same colour to visualize them
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Oh, I'm understand
Thank you
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