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Issue 2 hits stores August 7th!Written by Chris Mowry
Art by Matt Frank
Colors by Ronda Pattison
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I refuse to count Final Wars portrayal on the grounds of it being Toho acting childish!
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Is it childish to dispise a bad interpretation of your poperty that damaged the immage of the property, and to satirically obliterate said derivative in an a later work of your own. Toho owns the rights to Godzilla and can do what ever they want. If they want to take one back for the fans then they sure as hell have the right and justification to.
But even if you don't count Final Wars as video evidence of just how badly this fight would go then I must remind you that Zilla is about a fourth the size of Godzilla, probably closer to a third actually, and it would be like a child picking a fight with an adult. Also my previous missle reasonings still hold up.
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I claim it to be childish because that's all Zilla was there for in the first place, he had NO importance to the story and was just put in for Toho to give him the finger, that's it! (At least that's how it looked to me.)
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As for the size thing, what just because he's small he be a worthy opponent all of a sudden. Using ones size to their advantage has been a naturalΒ event for years, why would it stop now?
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And as for the missiles, that just Β prove Godzilla has a tougher hide.
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Of course he was there just to get blown up, would you have perfered that they built up the whole movie around him and then have him obilterated in a seccond? Godzilla slaughtering him in a instantly is what the fans wanted to see.
Using your size to your advantage has really never been an actual real thing, it a made up thing for movies. Also again small size is no guarntee of speed. Just ask Mohamed Ali, he was known for being on of the fastest boxers ever, and one of the biggest.
The pont about the missles is to say that Zilla has no attacks that could hurt Godzilla. If Godzilla's hide is too thick for missles to penetrate then Zilla's is too weak to allow his meele to damage Godzlas. His fire breath was shown only once and was infact fire. Godzilla on the other hands has "Atomic" breath. AKA asd powerfull as an Atomic bomb. All he has to do is look at Zilla and open his mouth and Zilla would die.
Also Godzilla is far more experianced, having fought hundreds of other monsters of all shapes and sizes.
Zilla has no chance.
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I'd have much rather he wasn't in it period if I knew the fight would both that short and shoddy.
You might wanna tell that to mother nature then.
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Now I said Godzilla had tougher skin, I never said anything about missiles having no affect on the guy. And as for the breath attacks, if they can hit the target they're a waste of energy.
Plus even if Zilla isn't as fast as he looks, he's still more agile and capable of attacking from underground. And don't give me that "Godzilla's handled before" stuff, it doesn't matter how many times he's dealt with it, if he's not able to see where the attacks coming from, and if it hits, it can unbalance him, and if it does and KEEPS him that way, it has the potential to do respectful damage.
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Again Zilla has no attacks that can hurt Godzilla. Godzilla is immune to normal fire, and his hide is far too tough to take damage from anything that Zilla can do. And I know that you said to bring up the fact that Godzilla has dealt with subteranian enemies before, but that is an important Factor, he has experiance with it. He knows how to counter it.
And why do you assume that Godzilla's Atomic Breath wouldn't be able to hit Zilla. The damn stuff is near laser fast all Godzilla has to do is see Zilla for a seccond and have his face pointed directly at Zilla(Tracking stuff with your head is one of the easiest things you can do) and he'd be able to blast Zilla with the force of a Nuke. Again Zilla would be unable to withstand that.
Also Zilla had a propensity to jump, in the air you can't menuver, making him an easy target. The fact is that the fight in Final Wars was actually very accurate. Godzilla is Stronger, likely faster(Think of Breeds of dogs, a Yorke can't keep up with a German Shepard), is smarter, more experianced, and has a more powerfull far faster breath attack.
Pluss you seem to over estimate the speed at which Zilla can tunnel. Its not like he can just swim through the earth, the only reason he kept dissapearing in the movie(aside from bad writing) is that we humans are small and slow and he had time to get through the earth. Godzilla has a birds eye view and could keep up with Zilla. The city also isn't an obsticle for Godzilla. He can literally just blast everything out of his way.
Zilla is no match.
Oh and if the I should tell mother nature thing is a reference to the fact that using your size to your advantage isn't a real thing, then I will repeat my self. Using your size isn't a real thing. It's a made up action used for movies and other media to show that the Spirit can over come. Mice cant beat cats without a pre existing hole to run into, A snake cant take on a dog without it's venom, a tiger cant kill a Giraffe without it's claws. It is the thing other then one's size that gives one the power to surpass it's size limitation.
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Maybe I do overestimate Zillas speed, but then how can we be sure? Just what do we have that tells us Zillas ground, sea and digging speed? From what I can see the subject still has yet to be set in stone.
Ok so maybe using size alone IS just a movie thing... but we're talking a mutant dinosaur and a mutant lizard! Should that fact REALLY matter in the grand scheme of things?
And on subjects we don't know, how do we know Zillas claws aren't sharp enough to harm GZ, such an event has been done before after all.
And how do we know how fast his atomic breath is, is it faster then normal fire, is it slower? We just don't know.
Until these questions have concrete anwsers the whole subject of wether Zilla could put up a good fight or not will continue to be subject to assumptions and opinions.
Though all that aside, one thing Β Godziila and Zilla fans alike CAN all agree on, isthat Zilla is 10 TIMES more worthy of being Godzilla successer then Minilla!
GOD HOW I HATE THAT PILE OF KAIJU DUNG!!!
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Sorry this gets really really wordy, but its all fairly important.
Um no we can't, I hapen to actually really like Orga. He is one of my top 3 favorite Godzilla villains, right behind the frst Mechagodzilla.
Zilla's claws are not tough enough to harm Godzilla, because misles have a serious effect on him(or her). If missles, which just bounce off Godzilla, are strong enough to obliterate bone and flesh on Zilla, then it stands to reason that Zilla's own body would break apart before he could damage Godzilla.
Also the atomic breath is faster then fire because we have seen both in action. Gas explosions (which woulb be like Zillas demonstrated fire breath) can travel at 2000 to 8000 meeters per seccond(coincidentially far too fast for the people in the cab to get away). Godzilla is 80 meeters tall. Therefor at max speed Zillas breath would be able to travel the distance of 100 Godzillas in one seccond. According to the old Toho movies regardless of distance Godzilla's atomic breath taveled almost instantaniously. According to the games, so long as you are in the line of fire it is instant. But the minium theoretical speed that his breath could possibly be traveling is the aboslute minium that Zillas breath could travel, 2000 meeters per seccond. Far to fast for any living creature to get out of the way of.
We can judge Zilla's speed by the fact that he was unable to out run the Apache and had to out menuver them. The Maximum speed of an Apache helicopter is 182 miles per hour, however they would not be able to fly that fast, and maintain controle of the helicopters, especially not in an urban environment, as the tunneling effect of the winds would make it difficult to maintain controle. and there are far too many obsticles to safely fly around at that speed. I do not know the maximum military recomended flying speed in an urban environment, however I would assume that it is under the maximum speed limit in the United States, otherwise turning and avoiding obsticles in the city would be impossible. But lets give Zilla the benifit of the doubt and say that it can move at the Maximum speed in the united states 80mph.
Thats not that fast. A human could easily hit that with many maner of weapon.
As for burrowing, the fastest burrowing creature on earth is the American badger, Capable of diging through concreete, and dissapearing entirely witin 2 minutes. Taking this size chart into account images5.fanpop.com/image/photo⦠Zilla is probably 25 meeters tall. A badger being about 1 meeter long, makes Zillaz proportionate diging speed 25 times faster. Means that Zilla can compleetly submerg him slef in 5 secconds, meaning that he can move at a rate of 25 meeters every 5 secconds. Thus moving at 5 meeters per seccond, and 11 miles per hour. Human Beings can sprint faster then that.
Boom! Science!
Sorry after all that work I felt like doing that.
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Well I'll admit that all sounds good.
But can't help but feel that for the logic, these to a nuclear mutant reptiles... so does conventional science even apply to them in the first place?
On the subject of GZ villens, I'm trying to decide between King Ghidorah and DESOTROAH! (Old joke, check out Godzillathon on youtube if confused)
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Sorry for the late response. I think that if you were worried I might not get the joke, you probably should have included that the joke is one of James Rolfes on Cinimasacre. But I allready knew it so it's fine.
Destroya, not many evil Kaiju can claim to contribute to the Death of Godzilla, twice no less. I think there are about only one of them.
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So true, but ol' 3 heads more widely accepted.
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Ol' 3 Heads can jus flail around randomly in shame, Godzilla won every fight against him. I allways felt that he was just too generic to be Godzillas nemisis.
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My vote is for the awesome looking American Godzilla 98!
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Ahem...Β www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcExdβ¦
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Very one sided. Have our American Godzilla fight the original and he/she would most definitely win. And that was bad cgi
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how was that one sided?.....
There is only one Godzilla and he is from Japan. His strength and power far exceeds that of "american godzilla" (Better known as Zilla or Gino).
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Because lots of people didnt like the new godzilla and so they slam that character every time. In reality nothing is impervious to weaponry. So the newer godzilla was more realistic. Which is why i like it better than an overstuffed lizard.
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I'm not going to bother escalating an argument with someone who clearly doesn't know anything about the history behind the King of Monsters
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Or bringing up a tired argument in a genre that literally throws realism out the window
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So a monster who: gets killed by conventional human weaponry, has little to no durability or abilities/powers, lacking in strength etc.
Would be able to beat a monster who: shrugs conventional weaponry on a regular basis, extreme durability/regen to withstand being cut in half(Godzilla vs Destroyah) or falling into an active volcano(Godzilla 1985), and a number of useful abilities/powers(atomic breath, nuclear pulse, ect.)?
Sorry man, I like the creature too, but there's no way the "American Godzilla"(Zilla) could beat Godzilla in a straight up fight. Would he put up a good fight atleast? I think so, which is why we got this comic.
Actually, this seems to be a stronger version than the original movie, but I still stand by what I said.
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Hey, Godzilla might have raw power, but Zillas got 2 things that GZ doesn't.
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Curious, what are those?
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Speed and agility... are those 2 things or one? And the ability to from all directions... literately on both land and sea.
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Godzilla make be stronger, but even he would falter against and opponent he couldn't catch or keep track of.
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Speed is just being fast, but agility can be more flexible, like being fast/aware enough to dodge a bullet.
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However, Godzilla has faced fast opponents before, and he still comes out on top. Zilla's problem, like those before him with similar ability,Β is that while he is fast, he lacks the strength to deal the necessary amount of damage. It'd be like a machine gun mounted assault jeep vs a tank. The jeep can ride circles around the tank sure, but its bullets won't do much to the tank's heavy armor.
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That's one way to look at it, but then we don't know just how sharp those claws of his really are, and who knows maybe Zilla could use the spines on his back as away to attack too. Those look like they'd leave a pretty nasty mark even on GZ.
They're like a jagged saw blade! :shudder:
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Zilla: Speed and agility
Godzilla: durable, built like a tank, has an atomic ray as well as nuclear pulse and cellular regeneration.Β
Yeah, considering Godzilla nearly killed Zilla in ROE, I think this speaks for itself.Β
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Wow... kinda forgot about this after so long... can't even rember what spark- OH YEAH!!!
Β Ok, I am not denying Godzilla is superiour to Zilla, cause you know, he is.
I just think Zilla's got so much more potential then everyone gives him credit for, and due to one reason or another, be it a grudge against him, the directer of his movie(whose name escapes me) or just some elitest "FaN" who considers Godzilla to be Jesus(having God in his name does not make it so, he's a force of nature, there's a difference) the kaijus been forced into an undeserved, dare I say it, YAMCHA status.
And THAT, just ain't right.
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I really don't think there's anything that can describe how excellent this is.
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By all that is cool this picture is awesome.Β Honestly I get nerdchills looking at this! XDΒ
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Yeah, we wished it was this cool. Β Final Wars sucked ass!Β
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F'real?Β F'REAL?Β BIG G vs Zilla?Β Squeeeeeeee!
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This is why I love comic books.
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LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!!!!Β Β Β Β Β Β Β
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Godzilla: So, let's see if I can make this last longer than 8 seconds!
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I have to say, you make Zilla look REALLY good 
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This is epic! Jap Goji vs. Ameri Goji, could this be an actual battle? Well, American Godzilla FTW (despite the Japanese Godzilla is the main monster)!
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You haven't watched Godzilla Final Wars, have you?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIcExdβ¦
Watch it.
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I've seen that horrible scene before, what's your point?
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You said "could this be an actual battle?", well, it is.
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Are you saying the Final Wars "battle" was a battle? Because Final Wars was a parody, no more no less, that scene was too short and nothing really happened exept Godzilla (2004) uses his tail to throw away Zilla into the Sydney Opera House. I don't really call that a real battle. Since Final Wars I've waited for a serious battle, and although i have doubts about this IDW battle, I think it might be better than Final Wars.
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