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Acrylics on canvas board, 40x50 centimetersDefiance ending in truer, darker, Blood Omen style
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Wow that's a long relationship
At least Blood Omen still works on consoles and pc, better than nothing
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One can only fall for Blood Omen at first sight. Then you felt utter bitterness and disgust upon coming to terms with the sudden realization that soul reaver is the physical descendant, an embarassing offspring to say the least. There's already a remaster at works. It's the only thing closer to what we truly wish for right now and what we might never get. Inspiration at its finest form. omnicide.razorwind.ru/en/
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I wouldn't even call Soul Reaver an offspring because that game is not an intended "sequel" to Blood Omen, just a simple marketing decision to release an independent game under the Legacy of Kain title and forge some excuse to explain why is it so entirely different from the original. The amusing is how many people ate the crap of "Kain got older" and "he evolded" as a reason of changing the original character for a different critter that never meant to be Kain (or has any connection to Kain) by it's original concept. There's no continuity between the Blood Omen and Soul Reaver titles, they're totally different in gameplay, mood, story, characters and everything as the seams clearly show where the two unmatching games got glued together.
Yeah I heard of Blood Omnicide, I'm not into fangames but their disclaimer gives them all honour for trying to remake this game as it is. And not trying to alter the story and characters to match the Soul Reaver. WHich is great
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RAZIEL AND KAIN ARE THE AWESOMEST EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Razzi looks like he's in pain but when you think about it, Raziel's entire life seemed painful.
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Nosgoth is a cruel world and many of it's characters had a lot of suffer, just not all of them complained about it.
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True. But the game made Raziel the official clueless at so many times
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Human Raziel rather had balls than the vampire/wraith one but I guess the developers made Raziel the naive on purpose, that's often a trait of the standard protagonists.
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True. Raziel is still pretty at least. Kain, on the other hand, is rage driven. Combine both and you have the awesomest character ever!!!
But Kain sounding like he was about to cry when Raziel entered the sword was pushing Kain's softie limits.
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Kain is a sardonic and malevolent character, he was also endlessly selfish and ignorant to the world around, still he's a protagonist despite of his negative traits, very rare in fiction when the main character finds life a crap but has a bizarre joy in seeing it's far worse to others.
Ah yes, that green "Kain" is a different story, I rather don't mix up with the Blood Omens' Kain character.
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Kain is not really evil if you understand Blood Omen 1 and 2. He just got tricked.....a lot of times.
Being surrounded by people like Moebius, Mortanius etc means that he would try not to get tricked again.
Given circumstances like that I would be that cold too. Oh wait, I am like that in some environments.
By the way, you would realize his "dilemma" was a hoax for him to die and destroy the Binding, right?
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Bearing negative traits doesn't makes a character evil. He's a selfish, ignorant, sadistic and malevolent, that's what makes his character cool and outstanding amongst the millions of genreic selfless and merciful goodheroes up to save the world. Kain didn't cared much with tricksters as long as tricks weren't at the expense of his own good. Guardians like Moebius, Mortanius, Azimuth etc were just as much evil as Kain, they used their powers they thought it serves the best to themselves, the different interests made them enemies. Kain's coldness didn't came of geing tricked, soft hearted people couldn't live long in a place like Nosgoth in first, second it was his vampirism that alienated him from humankind he didn't belonged to anymore. Instead of self-pity he's gone ignorant and cynicidal and enjoyed being like that. Self-sacrifise was just an optional ending of Blood Omen for gamers who missed the goodhero deeds throughout the entire game, but those who enjoyed playing with an anti-hero would pick the other one.
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True. However I still think Kain isn't that evil compared to the guardians. I tend to admire vampires for their way of thinking so maybe that's why I think Kain is AWESOME. Besides, the guardians were meant to all be vampires; no human guardians! According to Janos who rightly said, "They are incompetent to serve", it means that vampires had some level of wisdom, even if they commited suicide.
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Evil is just the matter of perspective. Blood Omen wasn't divided to evils and righteous characters, they were all endlessly selfish. Kain's vampirism was quite secondary, he gained a lot of spells and superior abilities with it but it had no high importance whether he was a vampire or not. He was an outcast of humankind, would behaved the same without the need of blood drinking (but the way he drank just added to his wickedness) He's awesome, but not because he was a vampire.
Those prophecies, redeemer hero stuff, vampire guardiand etc were all invented by Defiance, if you look at the original story the guardians were sorcerers, they were superiors to the average humans, vampirism wasn't an obligatory factor. Defiance did the opposite as Blood Omen and justified the vampires as the rightful rulers of their world, they got more closer to angels with fangs than to the self-indulging vampires like Vorador in Blood Omen.
Janos was just a mention in Blood Omen but wondering what sort of character he'd had been in Silicon Knights' version. Crystal made him the greatest emo of Nosgoth.
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Janos looks cute when he's sad. AWWWWWW. By the way angels with fangs is a compliment to the species because they are so adorable. By the way I feel a bit offended when you say outcast of humankind because outcasts are usually too awesome to fit in with average people (If they don't get emotional). Besides, I have the strangest tastes and interests I know of so I can say I AM an outcast of humanity although everyone I know ends up admiring/liking me.
Anyway, the original Blood Omen was to the point but from Soul Reaver to Defiance, I need to pay attention to all the twists in time etc. Sometimes I had to play over a part of the game to understand what is going on because of all the complexity. I also want to say that after Blood Omen 2, Kain and Raziel looked like the worst pair of screw ups because they almost did exactly what the Hylden wanted (It was 66% Raziel's fault in Defiance but he fixed the problem by letting Kain absorb him in the Reaver)
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I'm not idolizing the characters, let the wickeds be wicked. I meant the angels with fangs a critique not a compliment, vampires supposed to be villainous but not cute or adorable.
There's no principles on that, awesome people can be different from the average ones but it doesn't means all differents are awesome.
As for Kain and Raziel, Raziel was made to be like that from the beginning, Crystal Dynamics meant him to be the naive innocence pushed from one direction to the opposite by others, but true Kain is really a screwed up one, he was a really awesome character sticking out of the average protagonists in the Blood Omens but it's rather like Crystal hit delete on him and created an entirely different character to wear his name in the Soul Reaver/Defiance series.
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True. You know, when you think about it, Raziel's existence was used to continue the series and lengthen the story. Sure, Raziel is adorable in all his forms but he always seemed ignorant of everything. He probably got an F in Comprehension and a Z in putting information together.
I still like his acrobatics in Defiance(Especially perforate carcass) and he is so cute I could hug him.
If Raziel could talk to me, he'd be saying,"Do you call *this* cute?" and I'd say, "Why not? You're as cute as Kain"
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In short: Raziel is stupid 
Raziel wasn't ignorant at all even if he sorried himself a lot, he's almost as emotional as Janos and once he thought himself a messiah he worked for the higher good.
Fighting in Defiance wasn't a win, no option for blocking was included and you just slapped the sword on the enemy with exaggerated swings. Those critters mostly in Vorador's mansion were boring to fight after some time, they climbed out of the floor on the corridors every time you got there and was better to run past them.
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I still beat up the boring critters to unlock the special moves and it helps a lot when I feel extremely violent which happens whenever I feel like it. By the way, I still like Raziel as a fan even if some of his screws are missing. The main reason is: HIS VOICE IS AWESOME!!!!!! (Except when his voice goes off key in the end of SR 2 and Defiance). However, I like Kain's voice throughout the series except for his Soul Reaver 1 voice because Kain can sound very dangerous (Like me when I get extremely enraged 
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It didn't worth killing them, the rest of the special moves were useless such as the fighting in the air. Those two protagonists were just wide swinging and slapping with the swords with funny speed, quite mild for violence.
Kain wasn't returned to the series at all, Crystal Dynamics was against him from the first moment so he ended up with 2 games. That green creature in SR1-2/Defiance maybe wears his name but it's an entirely different character, not him. Especially in Defiance the Greenie had more things in common with Yoda. There are many characters who suffered terrible character changes when moved to another developers, Kain is the winner of their top list.
Under maturity I meant violence, cynicism, mercilessness that aren't associated with anything cute, adorable or angelic.
Revenge stories are not an unique thing, there's nothing special in SR starts with revenge too, there's also the Gladiator, Kill Bill or the Crow to mention. The difference between SR and Blood Omen is Raziel was full of bitterness and self-pity, he tried to justify his vengeance and prove himself the righteous, Kain on the other hand was full of cynicism and malevolence, his revenge was a minor part (killed his assassins in 5 minutes) he didn't pretended righteousness for killing the guardians, he did it for his own release.
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Yeah, Kain had his revenge in 5 minutes with no regrets but Raziel took two and a half games to 'kill' Kain, have regrets AND Kain STILL comes back and stabs him. I wanted to cry for Raziel (A whole tour through Nosgoth, only to realize that what Kain intended was right) but I knew he would have to be ended as with the case with Umah (I still don't like her though.)
Still, I like Blood Omen ending with him sipping a cup of blood, ready to take on the world. Kain, you are awesome!!!Raziel and the prophecies of blah blah are their own story but I was mesmerized because I like hearing all the stuff on the murals. You can probably tell that I LOVE HISTORY and MYTHOLOGY as much as I LOVE FIGHTING so hence the reason I like BOTH KAIN (The tough, pale one) and Raziel
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Raziel is really a naive emo, when it comes to kill he's simply unable to do it or feels regretful about it, he also has to be told what to think. I didn't liked Raziel's sentimental death scene, neither the struggling emos when Janos wanted to die but Raziel was too weak to kill him. Crystal Dynamics adapted a Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker relationship to Raziel and the Greenie. The original Kain would felt as much shock and regret as much he had when killing the Circle of the Nine, he rather made some cynicidal comments when Raziel went into the blade if Raziel got into picture at all in a Kain game.
Umah is a walking mistake, all her function was providing a tutorial to the new gamers, her later presence in the game was absolutely unnecessary should had been written out of the story right after the training chapter.
Defiance had no progressive storyline but piecing together medals and looking at murals, if you know something about Buddhism the Wheel of Fate thing doesn't sounds original.
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Wait, you know about Buddhism? *Duplicates tab* *Clicks name to check your nationality* Wait, you're a FEMALE and you named youreself after KAIN?!?!?!? (Okay, stupid question. You maybe just like him a lot but seriously, I thought I was talking to a male because of the name and the impersonation of Kain.) [Another stupid question] If you could meet Kain, do you think he will be angry you for bearing his name? (Like I said, another stupid question. I must not reply to people on DeviantArt under the influence of chocolate*)
*under influence of chocolate is another way of saying "HYPER"
Okay back to the topic, you might want to leave the naive emo alone because he's in a sword that's awesome and sharp and he is easily offended. Oh wait, he wouldn't kill you unless "Kain" (Greeniella) gives him permission because he is HIS right hand (Again).
As for Umbrellah (Umah), what drugs did she give to Kain that he thought SHE could be his QUEEN? Kain is not a phaedophile. He can probably ADOPT her the way she is so new to vampirism.
On a less insultive note, (I'm glad Razzi(Still too cute to be a big emo) and Umbrellah(I'd rather get wet in the rain) can't hear me.), Crystal Dynamics really copied a lot of stuff besides what they used in LoK.
And have you noticed that even the tougher Kain still seemed too soft in Blood Omen 2 with the whole Umah attraction and actually LOSING a battle. Nexus stone or not, Kain has enough power to win.
My theory is that Greeniella can actually BE Kain who evolved into a big softie ever since those two events. Eventually he wanted to CRY for Razzy when he got absorbed into the Reaver.
My other theory is between Blood Omen 2 and Soul Reaver 1. Raziel may have shown Kain a "gentler" approach to Nosgoth domination or maybe after taking over Nosgoth and being utterly bored Kain LOST HIS MIND. Or maybe he softened when Nosgoth couldn't challenge him anymore and so, forgot the ways of Toughology (Tough-ology is not a CSEC subject)
My final theory is related to the series, Kain really liked his favourite lieutenant but with Ariel nagging him he found a reason to cast Raziel into the abyss, knowing he would return for revenge like he did (Like father like son). Raziel's second resurrection meant free will and the ability to screw up time enough to fix all the stuff with the Binding.
OR MAYBE GREENIELLA THOUGHT KAIN WAS A NICE NAME AND "BORROWED" IT FOR THE REST OF THE SERIES. I don't know.
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The username mystery is very simple, my first pick was Sauron but it was already taken. And I don't fancy girlish stuff either.
If we are talking about Raziel, being easily offended is not a masculine trait.
The original Kain is a distrustful lone wolf but also a straight person who deals with his problems single handedly without the need of a companion. He's not stalking in the background neither manipulating others so less likely he'd like to adopt or marry anyone, neither he needed "sons", he's not Vorador.
Umah was an adult woman not a child, her age as vampire wasn't mentioned so could be even centuries old but she was one of Vorador's brides, vampires were like elves, their age didn't shown on their appearance. No games are perfect, they have smaller or major flaws, Umah is one as she's a totally unfitting character who did no good to Kain's and Vorador's person. That queen line sounded like a goof than something Kain would really say.
That was a good move Kain lost battle against the sarafan, the invulnerable always winning characters can be boring.
The truth is easier than theories, Greenie never supposed to be Kain, the creature and Raziel belonged to a different game called Shifter which was about a revenging fallen angel and got the Legacy of Kain title slapped over it and released as a "sequel" to Blood Omen (that's where the hebrew names, angelic ancients, sacrifise stuff etc came from). A lot of fans ate the "Kain got older" rubbish for the character change and they welcomed the new goodhero protagonist and the Tomb Raider feel so Blood Omen and Kain got kicked out of the picture with a swift move. Greenie and Raziel gone softies because a game for young players sells in a wider range than adult games, my SR copy was M-rated for 11 years olds. True those characters forgot about being tough to impose to underage players.
That's right guessing Greenie borrowed the name, once the angel game was released as Legacy of Kain someone was expected to wear the Kain name.
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Okay but Kain still called Umbrellah a CHILD and apparently her only powers were disappearing and getting into trouble with the Sarafan-club so Kain could rescue her and yes, I could sense his odd gentleness toward her from the beginning of the game. In short, I might as well say, "Umah is the biggest screw up in the history of gaming." Anyway, that's why she HAD to DIE.
And SAY WHAT!??!?!?!? SHIFTER?!? SERIOUSLY?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!! *Rolls on floor (In my imagination of course)* Still, they managed to make most of it flow with Blood Omen and I still like the story with all it's complications. I actually was introduced to the series when I was seven on Soul Reaver 2 but stopped on the Light Reaver. Eventually I got Blood Omen 2 when I was eleven, then the other three at the same time when I was fourteen. Because of the order I got the games, I wasn't so fond of Kain until I saw his perspective and now KAIN AND RAZIEL ARE MY FAVOURITES FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!! I still like Raziel because of his voice and reasons I would not mention for the length of this reply's sake.
By the way, since you seem informed about the companies that made the series so can you tell me why Enixx got involved?
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This whole Umah issue should have ended with the training chapter, a nice ending of her career when Kain practised the neck breaking grip on her. She was at least just a wrong character in a good game, far worse when entire games getting screwed up.
The Shifter story is rather sad than funny, Crystal took Legacy of Kain by force and released an entirely different game under this title, actually SR doesn't flows with Blood Omen at all, I know a lot of fans would like to see it the other ways around and call it a flawless and complex storywriting but it is not. I got disappointed in SR by first playing, it didn't felt like Legacy of Kain and had no recognizable connections to Blood Omen at all. Can't say I didn't tried accepting it or eating all the lame excuses such as "Kain got older" and blah-blah but it didn't worked. The SR side is a different game series, that's it. There aren't any characters in SR I could like, even Moebius isn't the same Moebius from Blood Omen, he wasn't such a two-dimensional Lex Luthor type genreic villain with a maniac fixation on killing the Greenie.
As for the companies, Eidos was sold out to Enix with everything that was the part of it, including Crystal Dynamics. If I look at their reboot with the Nosgoth title it's an ironic kick back from fate as Enix did the same to Legacy of Kain as Crystal Dynamics did to it when they took it away from Silicon.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! Poor Silicon!!! *sniff sniff* *wipes a tear from left eye* *sobbing*
Apparently Amy Hennig was directed more than actually directing. However, no matter what they do about Moebius, I will never like that Moby Duck!!!(Moby Duck is another name for Moebius). I feel taken advantage of when they made all those "twists" and I bought the "Kain got green and soft" tactic. However, the Famous Five (Blood Omen to Defiance) really got me, I just liked it the way they made it seem to the public. Now I'm hearing (or reading) that Greeniella took over the series??? *speechless for 10 minutes* *got speech back* So why didn't they name it Legacy of the Grinch, Legacy of the Leprecaun or Legacy of Greeniella??? Wow, money can do THINGS to people.
By the way about Kain grabbing Umah by the neck, he probably was grateful for being revived but then again, no because in Blood Omen 1 something similar happened:
Blood Omen 1 Blood Omen 2
In the beginning Kain was resurrected by Morty (Mortanius) In the beginning Kain was revived by Umah and the Kabal(Did I spell that right?)
Kain ended up fighting Morty in the end Kain ended up killing (finishing off) Umah in the end
Do you see what I meant now about the similar plots?
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Ha-ha crocodile tears are not a pretty sight
I didn't liked Amy Hennig's touch on the Legacy title warping it into something entirely different than it was supposed to be by merging it with a different game. Great luck her team were too busy with making installments for Raziel and co. so they kicked off the making of Blood Omen 2 to another team, that's why Kain could get a second game following Blood Omen and unrelated to the alternate storyline of the SR side.
Hmm I thought you like Greenie, all fans of the SR series liked Greenie over the original Kain so far.
Didn't thought of Grinch but fitting resemblence, Greenie is like an Uruk-hai orc crossed with Yoda. Maybe Greenie plays the wizard emperor but looks very unintelligent and unrespectable with that appearance and orc-ish face expressions. An evolved god-like high emperor? Rather a joke.
That's all about profit and market, for an odd reason genreic 2D goodies and baddies selling better than mixed personalities. Lara Croft was also dulled down to a weak and sentimental princess when Crystal took her from Core, but at least her attributes were kept. In Kain's case nothing of him was preserved, he got deleted for an entirely different character.
Just browse for Legacy of Kain anywhere and you'll face Raziel and the Greenie at every turn, this became their series and very little reference to the original story and characters. Fans keep demanding the Raziel-Greenie storyline and not the other series and considering the bad terms the two companies split Crystal has no intention to preserve anything from Silicon's Kain game. Quite funny Square Enix is now doing the same to Crystal.
Those similarities are quite exaggerated, Mortanius was one of the key characters in Blood Omen but Umah is absolutely a secondary figure. It was Vorador who revived Kain, not Umah.
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Yeah Enixx took away everything about the Lara I know and love!!! Afraid to kill??? Hell-to-the-no!!! That is NOT my Lara I used to look up to and wanted to be like
!!!! I even had an almost perfect imitation of her voice too. Sure I may not kill stuff but she was the last tough female I knew. Why do they down females as these pathetic beings that I can never stand for more than 30 seconds?????????? So far the only things Enixx got going for them are their graphics and morphing abilities. I used to be Eidos for LIFE!!! Now I'm 15 and Eidos is practically DEAD!!! Although I admit R.G. Mechanics and their way with making scary stuff really got me hooked. By the way the crocodile tears were only mental (in my imagination) so it was okay for me to freak out.
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That was Crystal that made Lara into a naive princess, Enix made her into a random teen G. I. Jane. Crystal has an obvious weakness for naivity, Raziel is one of the examples, and their version of Lara got too much mary sue traits too. Really why to victimise a character to justify their kills? Core's Lara was like Indiana Jones, Crystal's version was a weak-hearted merciful princess with tragic past. In Legend Amanda was far more tougher than Lara. Still a positive she wasn't morphed into an ugly old hag sitting at home and manipulating others instead of acting as they did to Kain.
Enix's version is something I don't know why it got titled as Tomb Raider. Probably the same reason as why Crystal called Soul Reaver a Legacy of Kain game.
I'm not clinging to any companies, just enjoying good games, the thing I can't stand is when a title gets taken over by a different developer that makes something entirely different of it which is a disappointment in most cases.
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I don't think it's appropriate to say ugly old hag, I was thinking an old granny like the ones in cartoons on a rocking chair knitting an I LOVE GRANDMA sweater. Oh and one funny thing about Lara in Legend was her seriously huge lip that rivaled everything on her whole face. *bursts into laughter*
On the less funny side, I also used to be impartial to companies but recently I realized that my favourites were usually from a select few companies and so, by August, I was officially Eidos for life until you told me about who bought who etc. I guess it's good not to pick favourites sometimes (Even if you like everything and think you should have favourites)
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If Kain was changed for something old and butt-ugly then Lara could have been changed for the ugliest grannies ever. All characters need their attributes kept, that makes them who they are. I wouldn't mind the Soul Reaver games if they didn't tried so hard to pass as Legacy of Kain and didn't tried convincing about the entirely different characters that they are the same people we met earlier in Blood Omen. If you stamp the Conan title over The Hobbit and change Gandalf's name to Conan claiming "he got old" it's still not going to be a Conan story.
The clear fact about Crystal's TR trilogy is they didn't sourced from Core's classics, they used those questionable quality movies with Angelina Jolie for their games. Crystal's Lara was absolutely a weak and emotional person, her polygons weren't the best such as the mismatching mouth corners and the poke-through on her eyelids, still the irritating about her was the naivity and wasn't convincing at all for a tough woman. Even rage made her look like an angry princess but not a tough person. The original dialogues of TR1 were changed in Anniversary to match with Crystal's storyline and Lara gained a lot of weakling traits. Underworld was better for gameplay and characters, still the story was dull as Thor's cult all around the world and Natla made into the arch enemy of the Croft family. The doppelganger was the most unfitting character as her contradicting actions made no sense.
Sometimes independent studios can do better games than giant companies, they may gain less advertisement and less attention, still these games can rival the hyped up top ones.
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True, like Fireboy and Watergirl!!! I've been playing it a lot recently. By the way I don't know much about Gandalf and whoever but I get the point; don't label something that is unrelated to something because linking it together makes money and distorts an entire story.
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Definitely diggin the artwork here... You're right, despite my fondness of Raziel, it is much truer to Blood Omen's style. Very nicely done.
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You know Kain wouldn't be able to find Raziel on his own right?
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Thank you. I wish the games didn't left Kain behind and turned towards something entirely different, so I'm not the fan of the SR-side, was fun to fantasize a bit how it'd look in Blood Omen style.
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Thank you
Not at all, I should be living in the US or at least in a western European country for that.
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Well your art is so good, you deserve to get credit for it. Games designers , comics people like that. It would be a real shame if you never made a living with it . What do you do as in work/college/uni ?.
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I doubt I can make money of art aside of commissions by dA users. Also can't have any art exhibits claiming my works "dividing and shocking people" just because they don't fall under the label of conventional art.
I'm making living of teaching art to kids. Or it's more correct to say trying to teach goblins with problem behaviour. Also doing the technical editorial work of the local magazine.
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Maybe go into abstract work . What I mean is keep you great art techniques but leave out the characters. Some of your work has no people in it and its pretty cool. People may not want a man with a sword on their wall but a bizzare landscape with odd plants etc they might. Look at my work some of its quite bizzare but I`ve sold it. I`ve done coloured waterfalls etc. Your pencil work is superb use that skill to produce wierd and wonderful pieces of work that might appeal to a bigger audience. Keep in touch , I`de be interested to see what you come up with.
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poor razi... *sniff*
but greeeaaat work, as always!!^^ 
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Thank you
Hehe I quite like torturing Raziel.
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i've seen it XD
so you love the end of defiance, do you?
really, i love your work. kain looks awesomely good! 
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Not really, but would loved it if it was written for the character of the white-skinned (BO1-2) Kain, that'd be then the wicked stuff I love 
I'm glad you like my stuff
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hehe yeah, kain is just a great character!
i do, my friend, i do.
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With all the alternate endings the two must have gone through to finally get to Defiance... this probably happened at some point.
No wonder the reaver spirit was so p*ssssssed.
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