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Description This piece is dedicated to Pansexuals and in no way means they are better than everyone else. Nor does it say that other sexualities do not partake in "true love".
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Keitilen In reply to ??? [2010-11-18 06:52:56 +0000 UTC]

Don't worry about me, I'd worry about you.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-18 07:18:55 +0000 UTC]

I never claimed I was worried. Just that I use correct definitions to you. But you don't.

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Keitilen In reply to princedirk [2010-11-18 07:29:37 +0000 UTC]

Obviously I do if I am taking them directly from the digital pages of dictionaries.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-18 07:37:24 +0000 UTC]

When the majority of definitions outweighs your one definition....well, you do the math. ^^

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Keitilen In reply to princedirk [2010-11-18 07:42:54 +0000 UTC]

Not always. Because some definitions don't go deep enough into the subject.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-18 07:55:39 +0000 UTC]

When the majority is deeper than yours, the minority, then...I'm still right.

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Keitilen In reply to princedirk [2010-11-18 08:03:40 +0000 UTC]

You believe that.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-18 08:10:33 +0000 UTC]

When the majority is deeper than yours, the minority, then...I'm still right.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to ??? [2010-11-16 21:00:08 +0000 UTC]

You said the difference between bisexuality and pansexuality is that pansexuals are monogamous. That's saying bisexuals aren't.

Yes you can be pansexual and polyamorous. Why not?

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DameGreyWulf In reply to ??? [2010-11-15 20:08:51 +0000 UTC]

So... everyone else dates by lust and looks. Cool, cool. Anyone who isn't pansexual is shallow.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 20:21:37 +0000 UTC]

People who are homosexual - referring to being Lesbian or Gay - are attracted to the same gender. "Lust" was not included in the description. Someone's gender is part of appearance, hun.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:28:15 +0000 UTC]

I'm not attracted to the same gender. I'm attracted to the same SEX.

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Keitilen In reply to princedirk [2010-11-15 20:58:37 +0000 UTC]

When you are filling out an application or paperwork of the government, and it asks what "sex" you are, what are they referring to? What "sex" you are attracted to?


"Gender (n.): the sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy."

"Sex (n.): either the male or female division of a species, esp. as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions."



Tell me, what is the difference between these two definitions. And if you wish to argue about their being such a difference, why don't you enlighten us?

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 21:04:41 +0000 UTC]

I am female and attracted to females. By telling you a lesbian over and over you should already know that.

Gender and sex are not the same. Anyone of any sexuality (and any sex) can love anyone of any gender. I already gave you the definitions previously, they are different. Gender CAN be synonymous with sex, but sex is NOT synonymous with gender. Just like gay can mean homosexuals in general, or just gay men. But homosexual is not necessarily synonymous with gay.

Gender: Gender is a set of characteristics that are seen to distinguish between male and female. Depending on the context, the discriminating characteristics vary from sex to social role to gender identity.

Biological sex: In biology, sex is a process of combining and mixing genetic traits, often resulting in the specialization of organisms into a male or female variety (known as a sex).

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Keitilen In reply to princedirk [2010-11-16 16:25:59 +0000 UTC]

And I have already told you the word "sex" is used in a few different ways. You are just suggesting it is basically only used in one.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 21:41:27 +0000 UTC]

I am using it in the context it is used in a sexuality.

Sex: sex
   /sɛks/ Show Spelled[seks] Show IPA
–noun
1.
either the male or female division of a species, esp. as differentiated with reference to the reproductive functions.
2.
the sum of the structural and functional differences by which the male and female are distinguished, or the phenomena or behavior dependent on these differences.
3.
the instinct or attraction drawing one sex toward another, or its manifestation in life and conduct.
4.
coitus.
5.
genitalia.

^ Still entirely relevant to what "biological sex" is. Not to mention biological sex is what I was telling you, not "sex" alone. Wiki "sex" then wiki "biological sex/sex in biology" and see what you get.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:22:52 +0000 UTC]

Sex is not the same as gender. You come off as not knowing a lot about gender if you think everyone only likes a certain kind.

So you are saying anyone who isn't panesexual is shallow.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 20:42:22 +0000 UTC]

Actually, "sex" is sometimes used in the place of the word "gender". And no one ever said that being attracted to the same sex makes you "shallow". Some people are only attracted to girls with brown eyes - that doesn't make them shallow.

You come off as not knowing how to read a dictionary:

"Homosexual (n.): a person who is sexually attracted to members of the same sex..."

"Pansexual (n.): Pansexuality (also referred to as omnisexuality) is a sexual orientation, characterized by the potential for aesthetic attraction, romantic love, or sexual desire towards people, regardless of their gender identity or biological sex. Some pansexuals suggest that they are gender-blind; that gender and sex are insignificant or irrelevant in determining whether they will be sexually attracted to others..."

Oh, and this definition might be interesting, also:

"Smartass (n.): A "smart alec" or "smart aleck" is a person regarded as obnoxiously self-assertive and impudent...."

I hope these definitions help you understand what is meant by this piece and the words.

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lordcaliborn In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 22:10:28 +0000 UTC]

Padding your arguments with childish insults doesn't really help your case, you know that?

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Keitilen In reply to lordcaliborn [2010-11-16 16:10:33 +0000 UTC]

Childish? >_<

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lordcaliborn In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 21:30:56 +0000 UTC]

Yes, childish. Your insults and sarcastic remarks have little to do with what you're trying to explain. They're completely unnecessary and incredibly immature.

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Keitilen In reply to lordcaliborn [2010-11-17 02:18:42 +0000 UTC]

If that is how you feel.

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 21:01:52 +0000 UTC]

Biological sex: In biology, sex is a process of combining and mixing genetic traits, often resulting in the specialization of organisms into a male or female variety (known as a sex)

Gender: Gender is a set of characteristics that are seen to distinguish between male and female. Depending on the context, the discriminating characteristics vary from sex to social role to gender identity.

Also remember that there are only three biological sexes. Male, female, and intersex (which is made up OF male AND female). But genders? Genders are entirely made up in the human species.

Other animal species DO have more than one gender, but only 2 sexes. Such as the white throated swallow which has 2 female genders and 2 male genders. Humans, however, have no genders other than anyone who binds to society and takes social norms to heart. Which is wrong.

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Keitilen In reply to princedirk [2010-11-16 16:11:33 +0000 UTC]

The word "sex" is used in a few different ways. Yes, the definition you just mentions, and then being just another word for "gender".

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princedirk In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 21:42:57 +0000 UTC]

Biological sex is not another word for gender. Gender *can* mean sex, but sex does not mean gender. Just like gay *can* mean homosexual, but homosexual doesn't mean gay.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:43:59 +0000 UTC]

Semantics are sometimes important.

Loving someone regardless of sex is what bisexuals do.

Loving someone regardless of gender is what anyone can do and often does.

You said "it's the personality that counts" in conjunction with pansexuality. So according to you nobody but pansexuals considers personality.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-16 16:12:59 +0000 UTC]

Again, the word is used as a method of reproduction and as another word for "gender".

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 20:47:47 +0000 UTC]

...No, no it's not.
Gender and sex are not the same.
Gender refers to identity, sex is what organs you have.

Many people are male sexed but female gendered.

For someone who claimed to be pansexual you don't know a lot about the gender spectrum.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-17 02:21:06 +0000 UTC]

This was already replies to with definitions from a dictionary.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-17 02:22:13 +0000 UTC]

Dictionaries have other definitions as well.

So what you are saying is that gender and sex are the same? I'm going to have to point out the "T" in LGBT...

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-17 02:30:58 +0000 UTC]

This was corrected earlier with Medic. I apologized to him and said he was right on the idea between "sex and gender". I am not going to continue arguing on things that were already stated.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to ??? [2010-11-15 01:12:33 +0000 UTC]

Oh cool, I like telling other people their love isn't true because they're not pansexual.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 20:05:46 +0000 UTC]

This piece is just based on "Pansexuality". Doesn't mean other love isn't true.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:07:42 +0000 UTC]

Implies it.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 20:21:57 +0000 UTC]

No, it truly doesn't.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:23:31 +0000 UTC]

"Pansexuals are blind! True love is blind!"
= "Only pansexuals know true love!"

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 20:28:17 +0000 UTC]

First of all, this piece is made for Pansexuality. In no way does it say "ONLY Pansexuals know true love." You're 'reading between the lines' skill are very bad - what grade are you in?

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:32:30 +0000 UTC]

Ohhh that was clever.

So if I made a piece for bisexuality that said "Bisexuals are true lovers!" that wouldn't at all be implying bisexuality > everyone else, mm?

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 20:45:38 +0000 UTC]

Yes, that would - but if that is the way someone felt about bisexuality, then I wouldn't favorite or post my own opinion on their page, maybe because I was taught manners.

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 20:48:31 +0000 UTC]

So it's being polite to not call someone out on their jackassery?
Fantastic, I'll just remember to say that to anyone who disagrees with me from now on.

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-15 21:19:38 +0000 UTC]

What I was saying was I would not dare to post on someone's work when my opinion was most likely against theirs. It's called being "rude".

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DameGreyWulf In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 22:36:01 +0000 UTC]

So you'd never post on a stamp saying gays were evil or something?

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Keitilen In reply to DameGreyWulf [2010-11-16 16:06:00 +0000 UTC]

Nope. Why waste my breath on someone who is probably like a brick wall when talking to? Unless it was something like picketing or such, defending a court case, or something important - but something like a piece on a website, it really doesn't mean much.

I deal enough with homophobics daily.

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seishin-teki In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-15 21:29:45 +0000 UTC]

Discussion and debate are rude? Yes, we should never express opinions when they're OMG CONTRADICTORY Because disagreeing is totally uncalled for and mean-spirited every single time. LOL Whenever you post something publicly, you gotta be prepared for people to disagree. Or you should at least put a disclaimer in the artist's comments saying "Don't comment unless you're gonna pat my butt" :I

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Keitilen In reply to seishin-teki [2010-11-16 16:09:38 +0000 UTC]

I've been disagreed with many times, actually. And it does get "rude" at a certain point when you have to disagree for hours over a conversation on artwork or something that was just made to dedicate to a few people.

There is a difference between debate and argument. This isn't the worst arguments in the world, I just have enough to do with lately than to continuously disagree with people.

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seishin-teki In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 16:42:24 +0000 UTC]

The people disagreeing with you weren't really as rude as you were, implying that bisexuals aren't capable of being monogamous and that your sexual preference is superior to all others :/ Even if your target audience is only a small group of people, you're not posting on a site for nothing but pansexuals, it's a site for everyone and everyone will have different opinions.

And you can always disable comments if you don't want to encourage discussion on your page.

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Keitilen In reply to seishin-teki [2010-11-16 16:50:55 +0000 UTC]

I wasn't referring to ALL bisexuals. And I was in no way "rude".

No, I think this the only piece I have dedicated to Pansexuals. The rest have been for GLBT community as a whole.

Yes, everyone has different opinions.

And if I truly had a problem with people stating their opinions as we have the past few days, I could have just simply 'hidden' them.

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seishin-teki In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 17:01:43 +0000 UTC]

You said pans are different from bis because pans are monogamous :/ That implies bisexuals are not monogamous people.

And I was referring to this picture, obviously, I'm not talking about your entire gallery. You do seem to have a problem with opinions since you're clearly aggravated that anyone would think pans aren't special.

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Keitilen In reply to seishin-teki [2010-11-16 17:12:06 +0000 UTC]

I should have placed "some" in front of bisexuals - that is what I was referring to. Therefore, I did not suggest to address the fact that 'bisexuals are NOT monogamous'.

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seishin-teki In reply to Keitilen [2010-11-16 17:17:32 +0000 UTC]

Regardless of how you wanted to phrase it, you did not. Observations on hindsight do not count because we can never know if that is what you meant or if you changed it later only because people called you out on it. Also, some pans are also polyamourous; there is nothing in the definition of pansexuality that specifically says it is impossible for pans to be involved with more than one person. If you think it's not possible to have sincere love for only one person at a time or that it is only possible for other people but not pans... Can't help you then

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