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Ibuki29 [2012-10-14 01:24:19 +0000 UTC]

XD XD XD that is so me in like every way something important happens, who cares, bad mouth my fav game and the demons of hell shall feast on your bones >:3

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p3rsh1ng [2012-09-27 11:25:17 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, thats the spirit. Go for it!!

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TheLugia702 [2012-07-20 23:39:28 +0000 UTC]

Hey, you can't swear!!!!

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gold-rose [2012-01-25 17:38:02 +0000 UTC]

A member of Linked this piece of art so now it is featured in this journal [link]

Please make sure you add it to your favourites to get even more exposure!

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woohooligan [2012-01-13 01:27:15 +0000 UTC]

Hey Kevin! Just thought I'd drop a note and let you know I featured this strip here: [link]



p.s. I hope you're feeling better.

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Thormack91 [2011-10-31 16:17:59 +0000 UTC]

I agree that the protests aren't getting enough attention, but for different reasons. I'm concerned with the lack of attention given to the apparent violent nature of these protests.
In reports I've read, 30% of suveyed protestors have advocated the use of violence against police.

There are numerous accounts of anti-semitic rants and signs at OWS

They have been given support by not only the Communist party of America but also the American Nazi party and anarchist groups.

In videos of the Oakland riots images of police officers being surounded and compacted by hundreds of screaming and angry people identify the protesters as the victims.

There have also been demands of compleatly distroying the system we have with no clear plan what comes after that.

All these factors together combine to create a very bleak future.

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DragonQuestWes In reply to Thormack91 [2011-11-01 21:06:48 +0000 UTC]

All of these allegations are obviously beyond false as they lack precise evidence.

A lot of "antisemitic" behavior are not from the actual 99% protesters but from opportunists trying to make names for themselves only.

Sorry but most of what you've presented are just rumors from the far-right (or some Libertarian website but this is even less likely) so that they could paint the protesters as "jobless hippies" in attempt to deflect criticism of the wealthy 1%, while ignoring the fact that a military veteran was shot in the forehead with a tear gas cannister.

[link]

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Thormack91 In reply to DragonQuestWes [2011-11-03 19:12:59 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry, but I'm still new to commenting and I've never actually posted links before and I don't know how .

As for the opportunists, in the videos I've seen they are quite vocal in their opinions and are not confronted nor told off by any other protesters. If I am mistaken please show me something to asuage my fears.

Also I think you may have been a bit quick to throw away everything I said. You don't deny the presence of people making anti-jewish tirades, nor have you shown they are in anyway an oranized or peaceful movement. So far all you have done is said that I'm wrong and referenced a single tragic accident to support the protesters and demonize the police. I still would give the benifit of the doubt to the police that they didn't intend to hurt him, only to make the crowd disperce.

That aso brings up another point. These occupy protests have been very violent in their actions as time goes on. One can certianly be upset and angry at all the wrongs in the world but that does NOT give one the justification for acting violently to your fellow man, be he rich or poor. Even if the violence is caused by a minority of participants it is still occuring. In contrast look at the Tea Party. They were labled for the most part racists, bigots, and just want to see the system distroyed. Nancy Pelosi said she feared the violence that could come from them(violence that never came mind you) but to the rioting Occupyers she has given her full support. To be fair I believe she gave her support before most of the violence started so I would like to know if this has changed her stance.

Look the point I'm trying to make is that alot of things are not being reported. If they are false then at least have clames invstigated to disprove their legitimacy. These are dark times we're entering so I think any potentially distabilizing force should be treated seriously.

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DragonQuestWes In reply to Thormack91 [2011-11-03 19:19:51 +0000 UTC]

It's only hard to "confront" them because you don't see them.

The intention of the police is irrelevant. They still did something they shouldn't have done.

The Tea Party ARE racists and bigots no matter what anyone says about them, whether they were violent or not is irrelevant, although they brought guns and OWS was completely unarmed. They are racist because of their actions. The Tea Party only aims to keep the same system that got us into the recession.

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Thormack91 In reply to DragonQuestWes [2011-11-07 16:57:46 +0000 UTC]

Wait, so what you're saying is the people who have been accused of racisim and being violent are worse than the people who have caused actual violence?
How does that work? If some one is armed with a gun and is practicing responcible gun safty, he's doing nothing wrong. Besides you don't need guns to be violent. The protesters caused plenty of damage with molotovs, trash cans, and the always classic, rocks. Actions speak louder than words.

Also intention does in fact matter. If the cop fired the gas grenade with the intent of hitting the protester in the skull, he is indeed guilty and a bad person and should be punished to the full extent of the law. If it is as I believe an accident, then he'd only be guilty of wrongdoing if he was opperating the launcher improperly. It's the same difference as between murder(intentional) and manslaughter(accidental).
Since neither of us is involved with the case nor do we possess psychic abilities(again if I assume incorectly you can tell me), we can't conclude on the motives on those involved.

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DragonQuestWes In reply to Thormack91 [2011-11-07 17:47:36 +0000 UTC]

Neither the Occupy Wall Street movement nor the Tea Party have caused any violence overall. I will tell you though that there are right-wing violent fanatics that murder doctors over "abortion" which would contradict their pro-life views and a Democratic congressman who was shot up by another possible right-winger. I don't know if they were Tea Party supporters or not, but either way, there is right-wing violence. Do you even know that the government protects the Tea Party more than the OWS movement? It's because the Tea Party is obviously right-wing and very supportive of the same system that ruined the economy while the OWS opposes the status quo, and it's rather obvious that corporations don't like criticism.

The fact that the officer even fired that canister at all just shows his bad conduct. It doesn't matter whether he did it on purpose or not, he shouldn't have done it in the first place either way. He's guilty of firing the shot either way.

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Thormack91 In reply to DragonQuestWes [2011-11-09 17:20:48 +0000 UTC]

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Have you seen the videos of the Oakland riots? Have you even searched for any videos or articles at all? There is indeed solid evidence and documentation of violence at these Occupy protests.

Also I never said there was no violence on the right-wing. What I said was that it is insaine that the non-violent protests are called hateful and violent while Occupy protests are given a free pass.

There are crazy people on both sides of the aisle. The problem is when the crazy people make up a significant portion of a crowd. They don't even have to make up the majority of the crowd to cause problems. I would guess that 80% of protest goers are just average people who feel there is injustice in our financial institutions. But that remaining 20% that wants to either compleatly distroy the system or just want to see the world burn is what causes so much distruction. They can even influence people in the otherwise peaceful majority to join the violence through mob mentality.

Also the Tea Party's main goal is not keeping the status quo but to reform the government. They believe the federal government should be more responcible with their budgets and should cut back on spending money we don't have. Besides, the whole crisis started back in the 90's when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two federally funded banks, started buying sub-prime mortgagues from other banks. This created a system where banks could make money by giving loans to people who may not be able to pay them back and then selling those loans, mitigating their own risk.

The idea was that homes would be more widly given and any defaults could be paid off with taxpayer money.(the govt. has a record of very poor business sence) With all this in place people naturally began to squeeze every penny they could out of it. Since the search for more money is the primary goal of any business I put more blame on the govt. for creating the oppertunity in the first place.

Finnally, the use of tear gas is a commonly used tactic for non-violently dispercing crowds and riots. Since Occupy Oakland was ordered by the city to disperce this is my abridged interpritation of what happened.
(police) "You have been ordered to disperce."
(protesters) "No!"
"Leave the area immediately."
"Make Us!"
"...Ok"(launch tear gas)
If the above is aproximately the exchange that took place, the officer was given the ok to use tear gas, and he followed proper procedure in the use of said gas, then he is not in the wrong and the whole situation was a tragic accident.

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DragonQuestWes In reply to Thormack91 [2011-11-09 17:56:02 +0000 UTC]

No. The Tea Party does not want to reform the government. They just want to keep everything the way it was. They want to keep the very system that took us into this mess in the first place. They always have been far-right and pro-system. They only care about having a Republican president like Herman Cain or any other far-right Republican. The only Republican they wouldn't support is Ron Paul. I'm no RP supporter, but not even he buys into this "Socialism is bad" mantra. Not that he is a Socialist, but rather, he's just not a typical Republican nutjob. The only thing I like about the guy is the fact that he would legalize Marijuana and dismantle all overseas military bases.

You have to understand that the Police are not your friends. They are not the good guys just for having a badge. The only reason they make the protesters disperse is because they hate criticism and they will gobble up everything the system tells them. Leftists like myself will tell you that they unknowingly protect the rich 1% at the top so that the 99% could struggle and treat everyone like peasants. Adam Kokesh-esque Libertarians will tell you that they only protect the system so that they can keep this state in a police state so that the government could control our lives and force us to swallow everything they spew out.

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Thormack91 In reply to DragonQuestWes [2011-11-09 21:24:31 +0000 UTC]

When you first responded to me you said how the claims I made about the occupy protests were violent were nothing more than baseless rumors. I have cited articals, quotes from protesters, photographs, and video evidence to support my clames. Right now you have clamed to have perfet knowlage of the motives of both the police and Tea Party and have stated these clames as Ipso Facto. Your statements sound to me as if you heard the first leftist talking points and blidedly accepted them. I'm sure you think the same of me of course.

Nevertheless, could you answer a few questions?
You state that the Tea Party wishes the system to remain the same. What then is the goal of the Occupy protests? What is their plan to take the money from the 1%? How will the funds be divided? Do they even have a plan?


Also, why so much hate for the police? You said,"They are not the good guys just for having a badge." Well to that I say, it doesn't make them the bad guys either. Is it so hard for you to think they may be in the right? That they are only doing their jobs? That they took the job out of a desire to help people and uphold the law?

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DragonQuestWes In reply to Thormack91 [2011-11-09 21:48:26 +0000 UTC]

May I ask your source? Just throwing out an article doesn't really do much. Because anybody can just provide an article and call it "evidence." I do admit to being a leftist, but that doesn't make what I've said less objective. Because even Capitalists are criticizing Capitalism itself. It's rather easy to complain about bias. I've heard Socialists criticize some bits and pieces of Socialism itself and the same thing with Communism. Since not everyone holds the same absolute point of view.

It's rather obvious that the Occupy protests intend to change the system because of all the bailouts. They want jobs, because there are none and they want economic equality. They also want corporations to stop influencing the government. These are obvious goals. It's not rocket science to figure this out. Not all of the money is going to be taken from the top %1 who are ultra-wealthy, but they do need to be taxed by at least a percentage so that it can be redistributed for important stuff like healthcare, education, housing, food, etc. If you've been paying attention, you'd understand.

Telling the truth does make me or anybody anti-police. Hating the police does. I do admit that I am very unfavorable of the police and the military, but even if I do actually like them, it doesn't really change the truth. "Doing their jobs" isn't a very good excuse for police brutality. Right now, I'm not going to go on too much about why I don't like the police and/or the military as it's hardly relevant to this debate, but I will say that they are being irresponsible.

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joshthecartoonguy [2011-10-25 03:26:54 +0000 UTC]

This isn't directed at you so much as deviantART, but I notice there's a trend of pro-occupy wall street deviations getting featured in DD. I'd love to see one which either criticized this protest or celebrated the tea party. But I'm not holding my breath for DA to pick one from that point of view.

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kevinbolk In reply to joshthecartoonguy [2011-10-25 03:47:49 +0000 UTC]

I think the message of OWS resonates better with the younger generation that frequents dA, whereas Tea Partiers tend to skew older. It's kinda like going to Bingo Night at the Moose lodge and wondering why there aren't more Lady Gaga fans.

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joshthecartoonguy In reply to kevinbolk [2011-10-25 03:52:52 +0000 UTC]

LOL! Good point! I think an art institution, or at least a site which represents itself as an art institution, ought not to celebrate art from just one viewpoint, or be afraid to feature multiple viewpoints. If owned an art gallery, I wouldn't mind a bit showing work by artists whose politics disagreed with mine, so long as the art was good. I also think it'd ease some of the flame wars that happen whenever a politically-themed art work shows up. If only one side ever seems to show up, it's frustrating, but if multiple views are shown, some people would feel less need to fume. (I say some, most people on the internet just love to scream at stuff regardless.)

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kevinbolk In reply to joshthecartoonguy [2011-10-25 04:01:36 +0000 UTC]

Well, dA isn't curated. It's completely user-based. If you're not seeing a lot of popular piece expousing your point of view, then it's entirely possible the majority of folks who frequent this site don't share that point of view. I mean, they could probably give an anti-OWS piece a daily deviation, but doing something like that for the sake of "balance" and not the merits of the art itself would be kind of foolish for a site that's geared toward art, not politics. But that's just my opinion.

Thanks for being so chill about this. Most folks who disagree about this kinda stuff tend to be jerks about it. I really appreciate that you don't fall into that category. ^_^

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joshthecartoonguy In reply to kevinbolk [2011-10-25 04:09:53 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for being chill. I love that comic of yours where the two characters debate politics then get ice cream together afterwards. So, have some ice cream!

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BrYttBRatt [2011-10-24 02:38:48 +0000 UTC]

In my particular case, it's not that I don't *care*. It's that politics are kind of a taboo subject for me. Nothing good ever seems to come out of discussing it.

I think you had another comic that touched upon that.

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Angie-Pictures [2011-10-17 18:33:10 +0000 UTC]

Nice work! Congratulations on the DD!

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FoggyPebble [2011-10-13 08:38:50 +0000 UTC]

It's funny 'cause it's true.

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Derrysome [2011-10-13 00:21:06 +0000 UTC]

Nice

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Xario1 [2011-10-11 02:41:12 +0000 UTC]

I hate the media.
Occupy Wall Street was a big thing. I wish I could've participated. I can't wait until the riots start someday : D
And the fires, especially

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eminery [2011-10-11 02:27:34 +0000 UTC]

I love how so many people have turned this into a huge rant about politics, considering you haven't mentioned liberals or conservatives or anything of the sort.

In a nice spin on what the comment box is supposed to be used for, I'm going to comment on - gasp - the artwork itself.
I love their expressions. Plus the way you draw hair is pretty sweet.

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Megami-of-Nekro [2011-10-10 19:19:42 +0000 UTC]

I have friends like this, is the sad thing. "OWS... who cares. DID YOU HEAR ABOUT THIS NEW GAME COMING OUT?!"

... and to the people who are trying to call the protestors Tea Partiers / Democrats / Liberals, you're looking at this the wrong way.

They're not only against big business for its mistakes and greed, but also against government for its mistakes and greed. A good number of the people at OWS don't like our former president, but just as much don't like our current one.

Don't try to split the protest down the middle because you don't want to investigate and see it for being not divided by party lines.

Anyway.

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ToonOMate [2011-10-10 04:47:23 +0000 UTC]

So correct.

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Bolt-The-Cat [2011-10-08 22:06:08 +0000 UTC]

That's the problem with our generation, we'd rather bury our heads in the sand than deal with real world problems.

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Conservatoons [2011-10-08 17:01:50 +0000 UTC]

Occupy Wall Street is Liberal theater for small minds. If this is an "organic" response to the TEA Party, then I feel even better about being a member of the TEA Party.

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eminery In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-11 02:18:44 +0000 UTC]

The comic wasn't even about the Tea Party For crying out loud, do people like you have to put a political "WAHH STOP HATING ON ME" spin on everything?

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Conservatoons In reply to eminery [2011-10-11 03:40:09 +0000 UTC]

You need a hug.

no hippies please.

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eminery In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-11 07:36:03 +0000 UTC]

Yes. I'm such an angry person, I made an account on an art website to rant about people who don't agree with me.

Oh, wait...

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Conservatoons In reply to eminery [2011-10-13 03:22:43 +0000 UTC]

huggy hugsy to you.

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LaVi3Boheme In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-11 04:31:00 +0000 UTC]

You need a chill pill.

No closed minds, please.

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Conservatoons In reply to LaVi3Boheme [2011-10-11 06:13:42 +0000 UTC]

no hippies please.

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kevinbolk In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-10 15:16:13 +0000 UTC]

Not gonna lie. It's pretty upsetting that I post a comic strip that doesn't attack conservatives in any way, beyond talking about an event you don't agree with, and I get a dozen of you leaving these rude, antagonizing comments.

And I thought liberals were smug and condescending. Guess there's enough of it to go around. Makes me very sad.

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Conservatoons In reply to kevinbolk [2011-10-11 03:41:08 +0000 UTC]

If I can make a liberal sad then the world is a better place. Thanks.

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kevinbolk In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-11 04:03:14 +0000 UTC]

People like you miss every thing cool in life and die alone and angry. So, that makes me feel a little better.

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Conservatoons In reply to kevinbolk [2011-10-11 06:14:54 +0000 UTC]

Riiight. Libs: delusional to the end. It is why you fail.

no hippies please.

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ShaneJensenToons In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-11 06:21:21 +0000 UTC]

Kevin is anything but a hippie. You know nothing about him. So knock off the hate. By the way, I'm not liberal in any way either, but would never say the things about them the way that you have. Way to go to further the reputation of your beliefs and political stance.

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Conservatoons In reply to ShaneJensenToons [2011-10-13 03:24:17 +0000 UTC]

I think I have a pretty good grasp. Liberals/hippies all whine, do not brook dissent and act like they are hurt little boys.

no hippies please.

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ShaneJensenToons In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-13 03:46:40 +0000 UTC]

They're not hippies. You are just too damn hateful.

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Conservatoons In reply to ShaneJensenToons [2011-10-13 03:56:17 +0000 UTC]

Isn't it hateful to call others hateful?

no hippies please.

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ShaneJensenToons In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-13 04:07:09 +0000 UTC]

Nope. Not at all. I just call it like I see it. You are in fact being hateful. That doesn't mean I have any hateful intentions toward you. Enough with the "no hippies please" in every damn comment. That makes you look like a dumbass.

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Conservatoons In reply to ShaneJensenToons [2011-10-13 04:25:43 +0000 UTC]

So calling people hateful is loving? OK.

no hippies please.

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ShaneJensenToons In reply to Conservatoons [2011-10-13 04:28:26 +0000 UTC]

You're such a dumbass. Please disappear.

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moocow95 In reply to ShaneJensenToons [2011-10-21 01:48:32 +0000 UTC]

goodness gracious i wish i could like comments on deviant art too. THANK YOU SHANEJENSEN! Conservatoons, I am sorry, but I would not be surprised at all to find out that you are thirteen. Not necessarily an attack on you as a person, but the way you argue and treat other people.

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cherryblossom-518 In reply to kevinbolk [2011-10-11 04:37:52 +0000 UTC]

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BlackjackGabbiani [2011-10-06 09:59:16 +0000 UTC]

I'm sorry but honestly I found this pretty offensive, especially paired with the title. Assuming that "our generation" (even though the guy at the computer and the girl seem to be around the same age) doesn't care about the world even though we're the most politically active and politically AWARE generation in ages...yeah, that gets on my bad side fast. Besides, it treats video game and computer fans as if we don't care for anything but those things, but that's patently false as well.

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