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KevinHarrell — Lex Vs Everyone

Published: 2011-01-16 07:53:06 +0000 UTC; Views: 2312; Favourites: 31; Downloads: 30
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Description superman man and any other hero has to face their villains but the villains have to face that hero and everyone else, because everybody wants the good guy to win. why? the way i see lex luthor is the underdog in the bout, an i love the underdog.

Superman crash lands to earth and is given god like powers without any work. Lex on the other hand had to work for everything he's got. its the same way with Batman. Born into a rich family with unlimited resources. Joker had to go to the school of hard knocks to get his lessons and respect.

so this piece is showing a parallel of the characters, both at the same level but got there by different means.

thats my rant... i hope you dig it.
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Kerevon [2011-09-27 04:17:35 +0000 UTC]

Fun thing about Luthor: Occasionally, VERY occasionally, he does something right. He knows how. He cured his sister of a debilitating disease (with the help of Superboy). He built a robotic superheroine nearly of the caliber of Superman. One of his greatest acts might even have been making Superboy, who once saved every single universe and is next in line for the title of Superman.

Unfortunately, each of these acts went downhill. He returned his sister to her former sick state as a 'lesson' to his son Superboy (who pretty much disowned Lex, but interestingly grew closer to the other Luthors), he used the robotic superheroine in an odd attempt to turn the public against Superman (a fairly successful one), and he eventually decided to use Superboy as a weapon against other superheroes by making him attack the Teen Titans. He has too many self-destructive habits to be a true hero.

That said, in All-Star Superman, he finally ended his life doing the right thing. And in Superman: Red Son, he spent many years as a villain but at the climax he teamed up with Superman to become a hero, and eventually DID become the savior of humanity, serving as an ubermensch (superman) that brought peace, prosperity, happiness and much scientific advancement to mankind. So much so, that he accidentally created the very society that would birth Superman (who would here be sent into the past as opposed to another world).

Verah complicated character, when written correctly. Also, Joker is just a sociopath. He doesn't care for anyone or anybody but himself, and I really do not have pity for the guy.

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fedupN [2011-02-01 20:53:38 +0000 UTC]

Everyone sides with Batman because the Joker is a SOCIOPATH. Being a murdering asshole who gets off on other people suffering is a surefire way to lose points in a popularity contest. Even other villains don't like having the guy around.
Besides, having your parent's murdered in front of your eyes and pushing yourself to edge of human capacity mentally and physically earns Bats some serious kudos.

As for Supes, yeah he is a punk ass.
While Luthor is an egotistical jerk, I like the stories where he is written as a hero...usually this scenario occurs when Superman dies or never shows up.

Good pic, btw.

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KevinHarrell In reply to fedupN [2011-02-05 00:38:18 +0000 UTC]

thanks dude

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Draconicat [2011-01-16 20:43:48 +0000 UTC]

*slaps forehead* Forgot to add that I like your artwork!

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KevinHarrell In reply to Draconicat [2011-01-17 04:51:22 +0000 UTC]

Thanks

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Draconicat In reply to KevinHarrell [2011-01-17 20:49:15 +0000 UTC]

You're welcome!

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Draconicat [2011-01-16 20:43:16 +0000 UTC]

I totally agree about the basic inequality of Superman being granted awesome superpowers he hasn't earned (plus being left all the advanced alien technology in the Fortress), while Lex Luthor gets to where he is by means of his own brilliance and determination -- yet virtually everyone blindly sides with Superman, whether he's right or wrong. Lex's goal is to defend humankind, which strikes me as genuinely heroic, but he never gets any credit for it, even when he actually does save the world.

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Kerevon In reply to Draconicat [2011-09-27 04:20:49 +0000 UTC]

Which is rarely. And usually because he has no other choice. There's a good reason he's a villain. He COULD be the Superman that the world would truly need, but his xenophobia left him doing silly plans to one-up the "Man of Steel" while the actual saving of the world was left to a naive farmboy from Kansas with superpowers. Hardly the person best qualified for the job. And so Superman does what little he can, while the man BEST qualified to save humanity wastes his potential in a silly grudge match. It isn't exactly Clark Kent's fault that they call HIM Superman as opposed to Lex Luthor.

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Draconicat In reply to Kerevon [2011-09-27 06:36:07 +0000 UTC]

Considering some of the horrifically evil, super-powered and technologically advanced aliens in the DC Universe, I would hardly call Lex's xenophobia 'silly' -- and, as Lex has correctly pointed out, there are many reasons why it's dangerous for humanity to rely on Superman and other self-appointed 'heroes' rather than solving its own problems. Also, as Lex observes, when a foreign species is transplanted into an area, it usually has a devastating effect on the native species -- and Superman is a member of a very foreign species transplanted into our world and now in direct competition with the human race. Not a good prospect for humanity....

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Kerevon In reply to Draconicat [2011-09-27 12:51:44 +0000 UTC]

A foreign species is only a problem because it has no natural enemies and will overpopulate, wiping out similar species. Humans are in no danger of being overrun by Kryptonians, considering there are only two of them left. And they happen to be close family, meaning they won't be breeding and definitely won't be overpopulating. Also, Lex's xenophobia IS silly because it popped up during the first known encounter with an alien species: namely, Superman. He all of a sudden decided that Superman was a threat and needed to be destroyed, and thus spent an unusual amount of time trying to kill this fairly pleasant young man, often with enormous amounts of collateral damage. This is BEFORE any more hostile alien species arrived, mind you.

It is true that it's not a good idea to have humanity dependent on self-appointed 'heroes'. However, Lex Luthor COULD provide alternate solutions to this problem. He didn't. Instead, he spent his entire life trying to kill these heroes as opposed to providing the world with the means to make them obsolete, putting them once more into obscurity. Which he no doubt could have done.

Remember, Lex was xenophobic BEFORE the 'horrifically evil, super-powered and technologically advanced aliens' arrived. The first alien to arrive was Superman, and nothing he did indicated evil. Arrogance, yes. Evil, no.

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Draconicat In reply to Kerevon [2011-09-28 01:03:54 +0000 UTC]

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

The truth of that has been proven over and over throughout known history, and there’s no reason to suppose it wouldn’t apply as readily to Kryptonians as it does to Terrans. Superman not only has access to tremendously advanced alien technology, but – thanks to Earth’s yellow sun – he has superpowers which elevate him to near-godhood. It would be worse than naïve – it would be STUPID – to blindly assume that he’d never abuse those powers, especially if all you’re basing that assumption on is Superman’s word and some ‘good deeds’ he’s performed for the cameras. Lex Luthor is many things, but he’s not naïve, and he’s not stupid.

As for numbers…how many Kryptonians there are on Earth depends on which version of the Superman mythos you’re looking at. On the television series Smallville, for example, Clark kept declaring that he was the last of his kind, yet other Kryptonians kept showing up. And showing up. And showing up….
Even if we restrict ourselves to a version of the DCU which has Superman and Supergirl as the only living Kryptonians anywhere, and even if the two of them are, in this version, close blood relatives, that wouldn’t preclude their multiplying. Kryptonian medical science might well have long since done away with any potentially harmful genes in the population, making it perfectly safe for Superman and Supergirl to procreate the old-fashioned way. And, were this not the case, one must still presume they could use Kryptonian science to clone themselves as many times as they liked. Instead of one Superman, there could be a hundred, or a thousand, or a million, or a billion – and the same holds true for Supergirl. It might not take much time at all for the two of them to populate the entire Earth with Kryptonians. Though they might want to do something about all those pesky humans in the way….

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Kerevon In reply to Draconicat [2011-09-28 02:36:21 +0000 UTC]

True, Superman should not be completely trusted. But just because Lex isn't naive doesn't mean he should be considered the hero instead. Au contraire, he was already fairly corrupt even without the absolute power of Superman. His point of view is based in narcissism, placing himself as the Superman.

The interesting thing about these two characters, frankly, is that they are BOTH ubermenschen. Lex has superhuman intellect and possesses vast resources, Superman has godlike strength and nigh-invulnerability (but is naive and usually of average intellect). Both of them have their own set of values that they seek to impose upon the world and neither of them feel constrained by mere human laws or beliefs. Thus, both of them fulfill the necessary criteria to be the ubermensch. However, Superman's set of values stress kindness, honesty, and faithfulness. Lex Luthor believes in intelligence, dominance of the weak, and doing anything to achieve one's goals.

Of the two, Superman's values are more likely to have a favorable impact upon all of humanity. Much of Lex's fears concerning Superman stem from the fact that if HE were an alien being possessed of such power, he would indeed take over the world and eradicate the 'pesky humans'.

That said, you are right about one thing: in the DC universe, it is unwise for humanity to depend on a 'savior', especially one who MIGHT have a vested interest in killing all those who depend upon him. Superman technically is a threat, and in a realistic situation should be very closely watched by humanity. To deny him an opportunity to aid others would be cruel and mildly hypocritical (after all, aiding others is a trait the West holds dear), but it would be most foolish to pretend he could not cause great harm.

Unfortunately for your argument, the exact same holds true for Lex Luthor, who also possesses boundless and not-entirely-understood gifts (namely, his intellect). And UNLIKE Superman, Lex Luthor has shown countless times that he does NOT care to aid humanity. By previous example he has shown himself untrustworthy, and he has proven time and again that he is morally unfit to hold important positions.

To fully trust Superman would be a great folly. But to give any trust to Lex Luthor, who time and again has abused such trust would be an even bigger mistake.

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