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Published: 2015-04-17 17:13:59 +0000 UTC; Views: 1820; Favourites: 17; Downloads: 2
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About Kirsty act in Hellraiser: hellseeker film.
I understand why she killed Trevor. Because he was a terrible husband and wanted to kill her. Moreover, he wanted to kill her because of money. Moreover, he wanted to kill her with the help of Lemarchand's box. This man deserved to die.
And his cowardly friend too. Because he wanted blood money too.
But the murder of three women? I do not know, I think it's too much . Yes, they slept with her husband, but they never wanted to cause her physical harm. They were never a threat to Kirsty. I'm not even sure that the masseuse could know that Trevor MARRIED (Clearly, his boss and his neigbour KNEW this fact). Marital infidelity is very bad thing, but not so bad that because of this be tortured to death.
And do not forget that all these five people were not just killed, they gone to hell forever.
No matter you condemn Kirsty for her act or justify her actions, but we all have to accept that after the sixth film Kirsty Cotton can no longer be considered just as an innocent girl in trouble.
Such a Shame that we do not know her fate after the movie. I really want to know why she took the box with her
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Comments: 15
adamantis [2015-04-18 22:28:06 +0000 UTC]
It kind of reminds me of Julias descent, she was very prim and proper and eventually became a murderess and then pretty much a demoness in the realm of Leviathan. I think Kirsty follows a similar path after Hellseeker.
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kirillkirillkirill In reply to adamantis [2015-04-19 06:32:47 +0000 UTC]
well in comics YES
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warrior1944 [2015-04-18 16:38:41 +0000 UTC]
I like this one, hmm reminds me that most of us have a dark side of ourself I prefer the dark side easily.
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gargoyleman412162 [2015-04-18 05:19:03 +0000 UTC]
You know what I like to see? A Hellraiser videogame that allows the player to make various decisions that can alter the events throughout the story as well as the ending, similar to how the story progresses in The Walking Dead videogame from Telltale Games.
While the story would be a new plot in the series, of course Doug Bradley should return as Pinhead. And a good idea would be that in a later chapter you would meet an older Kirsty Cotton. I would like to see what's up with her after the events of Hellseeker, & whether she'll help or hinder you.
This is what Clive Barker should do instead of rehashing the series. After all there are too many reboots nowadays. I'm sure he can successfully master such a great idea.
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kirillkirillkirill In reply to gargoyleman412162 [2015-04-18 13:40:14 +0000 UTC]
oh yeah. how many games based on Hellraiser planned, and no one has been realized. it's not fair
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HopelessRomantic999 [2015-04-17 20:15:30 +0000 UTC]
I can invent a reason for the boss and the neighbor besides infidelity (if Trevor told them separately that he wanted to get his wife out of the picture [without bothering with a divorce] so he wouldn't have to worry about getting caught by her; then the neighbor could have pretended to be Kirsty's friend long enough to find out about the box and the boss could have found out where the box was and provide Trevor with the funds necessary to obtain it [even though that proved unnecessary]), but I can't think of a logical reason for the masseuse. For all we know, she knows nothing about Kirsty and did nothing wrong besides have sex with some of her clients. Was it really so hard just to find three assholes in a bar (especially ones who'd try to slip a roofie in a woman's drink) and sacrifice them to the cenobites? Those are the type of people they usually go after, not random women who sleep with married men. Think writers, THINK!
This looks really good, an almost seamless transformation from good Kirsty to bad Kirsty. I actually want to do a song fic for Everybody's Fool by Evanescence that shows teenaged Kirsty seeing the person she becomes and being disgusted with herself.
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kirillkirillkirill In reply to HopelessRomantic999 [2015-04-17 20:48:00 +0000 UTC]
--- I actually want to do a song fic for Everybody's Fool by Evanescence that shows teenaged Kirsty seeing the person she becomes and being disgusted with herself.
And then Pinhead-Kirsty comes and starts trolling both human versions of herselve.
No, really, you have a good idea.
I know, right? Masseuse looks like an accident victim. For God's sake, in the film (in Trevor's Hell - they only just met!). Of course they knew each other in life, but apparently very little. It does not even look as if Trevor had ever brought her to his house!
How lucky that Kirsty knew only about three Trevor's mistresses . Imagine what a massacre would have been if he had more lovers in the city. LOL
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HopelessRomantic999 In reply to kirillkirillkirill [2015-04-18 02:55:42 +0000 UTC]
Not sure about Pinhead-Kirsty, but I imagine Xipe being pretty smug about this, especially since future Kirsty becomes his lover. 😁
Pinhead: This is who you'll become, a master of pain and my consort. The sooner you accept this, the happier you'll be. You could even skip the murdering part and join me now, and save us both a lot of trouble. *insert suggestive glance/bedroom eyes here*
Kirsty: Shut the Hell up, you pervert! I'm never going to be a murderer like Julia, and I most certainly won't end up like you!
It's funny and tragic at the same time.
Oh, crap. I think Pinhead would have to get either Tiffany or Joey (or both) to stop her from murdering everyone.
Kirsty: Come here. This won't hurt.*stabs victim* Oops! I lied! That's what you get for sleeping with my hubby.
Tiffany: O_O
Joey: What the f*ck did you do?!
Pinhead: I swear, I didn't know she'd take it this far.
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kirillkirillkirill In reply to HopelessRomantic999 [2015-04-19 14:29:03 +0000 UTC]
www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4tLxQ… I always thought that the voice of Pinhead changed at the end because it was Elliot who agreed to the deal. I can only assume that the captain wanted to protect his girl, but I still can not figure out why he gave her permission to kill five people, because this act brought her closer to hell than ever before.
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HopelessRomantic999 In reply to kirillkirillkirill [2015-04-19 20:25:35 +0000 UTC]
Maybe he wasn't expecting her to actually kill them, just trick them into opening the box. But she killed them, and I guess she had the box with her when each person died or else they would end up in whatever Hell Larry ended up in and be completely useless to her.
Also, in the alternate scene, he said that her father would be at the gates of her personal Hell. Does that mean he found him, or was he just going to use an illusion of her father to torment her?
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kirillkirillkirill In reply to HopelessRomantic999 [2015-04-20 07:24:59 +0000 UTC]
may be. maybe he expected that she would kill five really bad people (some criminals or perverts).
good question too. but I do not think he lied to her. I think he could find Larry after years. why not? maybe he hoped Kirsty agreed to go to hell to try to save her father.
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HopelessRomantic999 In reply to kirillkirillkirill [2015-06-26 22:55:49 +0000 UTC]
Just a heads up, my family and I are going to Florida tomorrow for vacation so I won't be able to work on stories that are already on fanfiction.net as much (writing on a kindle is tedious, especially with the chance of it shutting down before I can save what I wrote) and also may not be able to talk to you as much since vacation time is family time. I will, however, bring a few journals so I can start writing other stories, both fanfiction and (hopefully) original stories (have to get started at some point).
In the fanfiction department, I FINALLY have ideas for Silence of the Lambs/Hannibal stories that are not crossovers or OC stories (though I will do those, too); it's really hard to be original in that fandom because nearly every possible idea has either been done to death or has already been done so well by the first person who wrote a story with that idea that any thing I may do with the idea would look like a copycat (this one guy, who may or may not still be around, came up with a story that actually changed my perspective on the original book ending for Hannibal). I'm also going to try to write stories for more innocent things like My Little Pony and Disney; I don't want horror to be the only thing I write about now.
And I checked out the Scarlet Gospels from the library since I saw it was available. I'm going to be reading that, too.
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kirillkirillkirill In reply to HopelessRomantic999 [2015-06-28 14:36:47 +0000 UTC]
I envy your American library, which brought a new batch of books. Our Russian libraries have only a Soviet books or exist due to donations of books from the public.
a pleasant journey to you
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HopelessRomantic999 In reply to kirillkirillkirill [2015-04-23 01:04:09 +0000 UTC]
I actually have this in mind for a plot point in a crossover between Hellraiser and the Devil's Carnival (note to self: publish prologue ASAP). Because Larry wasn't all that bright in life (and God is a bit of a perfectionist in this universe), he gets sent to Lucifer's Hell where he wanders aimlessly trying to look for his family. Years later, Pinhead goes to the Carnival to make an agreement with Lucifer so he has Larry instead. He does this because he wants to make living in his realm better than living on Earth and the best place to start is to get her parents and put them in a safe place where they'll be happy (headcanon [have not read the comics, so if it turns out this isn't true, sorry]: "demons to some, angels to others" tells me that not everyone who opens the box suffers, so somewhere in the Labyrinth, there is a place much like the Elysian Fields in Greek Mythology where the innocent people are safe from the cenobites [they can still go in, but they're not allowed to hurt the people there] and the sinners that get punished). Kirsty's mother had already opened the box shortly after a failed suicide attempt so all he needed was Larry, so he came to the Carnival to collect him at the cost of upsetting Kirsty (who is hovering between life and death when she couldn't get out of the car in time
and trying to find out where she should go from here) when her and her father's reunion was cut short.
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