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Description I'm updating this meme because I felt like it since my opinions have changed a teeny bit since then.

Favorite Character: I honestly cannot get myself to hate Courtney even though I feel her character hasn't been done justice since TDI, I blame that moreso on bad writing. Plus, I tend to like highstrung characters, they often tend to be the most entertaining characters for me. Especially given how they can be hilarious in certain situations and often go through the most emotions. I'm very emotional myself, constantly worrying and always been rather sensitive, so I know the feeling. And yeah, another reason I seem to like her so is because she reminds me of other characters I also like here:


Despised Character: I originally had Lightning here, but over time I kinda don't really have much of a vendetta towards him anymore since TDRotI feels like a long time ago, and I thought his screentime he had in TDAS actually did kind of make him enjoyable since they got rid of him at the perfect time. I doubt I'll ever really like him, but let's move on to the new character here, Chris. Oohhhh Chris, why? You were fine in the first couple of seasons, you used to still be kind of a jerk but you still had humanity and charisma to keep you entertaining, now you have no humanity or charisma. And we have to watch every single episode with him, he isn't like how certain contestants often get a break from screentime. In the later seasons, he tends to tarnish the watching with his unfair and needlessly cruel ways, ESPECALLY in TDPI which had irked me. He also constantly seems to bend the rules for the heck of it, and I just feel like he's out to kill the contestants, or at least remain uncaring about their well-being. Why is that other antagonistic characters get flak frequently for being 'meanies' but Chris, who would make them all look like saints by comparison, hardly gets any acknowledgement for what he does?

Favorite Season: Total Drama Island. Everyone will usually say the original's best, and in this case, it's true. TDI started it all, and is the best season. The characters were more likeable (except for Heather maybe), it makes me laugh the most, had the best development, and I have the least problems with it. Plus, TDI has some of the most memorable scenes in the entire series. Remember when Lindsay told off Heather? That was so great!

Despised Season: Total Drama All-Stars. I'm honestly kinda surprised that I'm ranking this season lower than TDA. Okay, I was really excited for TDAS before it came out and trying to be as positive as I could. And while during pre-merge, I kept sugarcoating the season thinking it'll improve in quality as time went on. ...But, it honestly went downhill for me post merge. It was rushed (though it was 13 episodes which was likely why), had way too many OOC or flanderized moments, a lot of the eliminations I didn't care for or disliked, and a lot of things weren't handled very well. I do believe the fact that TDAS was only 13 episodes is the reason it didn't do well since the writers had to cram in a lot of things in the story. There were a few decent episodes and I liked the idea of the old and new cast interacting (it did also make me fond of a few pairings), but it really needed to be handled better.

Most Overrated Character: I'll admit, Duncan used to be one of my least favorite characters in TD, though to be honest he's more in my 'eh' rankings now. There were times when Duncan made me laugh (but it's mainly when he's scared or hurt). However, due to how needlessly cruel he was in TDWT for being an unsympathetic cheater, he was very low on my TD character rankings. He also frequently bullies people for no reason or often for kicks, and never seems to show remorse for his actions. I was pretty mad at him when he kept being mean to Harold, AND got Geoff and DJ to join in on the bullying in TDI. Though in TDAS, he wasn't that bad. After being switched to the Heroes team he goes through this sort of identity crisis where he keeps being viewed as a sweetheart and it frustrates him beyond belief since he wants to keep his bad boy image. The real problem with that is that they were trying to make him seem so frustrated about it, when I feel that in TDI he would've acted oblivious and not quite as hung up about it.

Most Underrated Character:Β  Originally, I had Eva here, but to be honest, I've noticed a bit of love for her lately and she tends to make it on the Underrated Character part a lot actually, so I chose B instead. Now, I think B gets a lot less attention than Eva since he never talks and was sadly eliminated early in TDRotI. He doesn't get much love and art in the fandom compared to a lot of other characters and I think he'd have great potential if he went farther. Maybe we could get a big dramatic scene of him where he actually talks. That'd be cool.

Favorite Couple(s): I couldn't leave either of these couples out. and TxG was very genuine and cute to watch. Their relationship was one of the best things about TDI. I like how happy they were around each other, their small talk, and their devotion to one another. And mostly, I felt this helped give Gwen great character development in TDI. I felt rather upset when they broke up. Why couldn't they just try to go through helping each other with the nine obsession!? And while I have an iffy opinion on most love-hate couples, I love DxC~ (it's kinda ironic as I'm not a fan of Duncan...) This relationship was very amusing, and seemed beneficial to their different personalities. But their relationship sadly seemed to only go downhill in being genuine due to bad writing. Seriously, I don't even know if DxC will ever be likely again after what's happened between Duncan and Courtney now. But either way, DxC is along the lines of guilty pleasure for me.

Despised Couple(s): It's a four-way tie, between , , , and Dave Sky (don't know if they have any plz accounts of them yet). Honestly, I'm not gonna say much about DxG this time as I ranted about it in another meme, but considering that this couple messed up a lot of the contestants as a result, I have to admit it pretty much ruined TDWT for me. Plus, I feel it goes against the development of Gwen's character and is just boring. I honestly prefer them as friends more, I liked them having a relationship that didn't need to be something more. The episodes involving DxG felt so mean-spirited and hard to watch.
SxD is pretty much DxC without the charm, and someone as nice as Dawn doesn't deserve to put up with Scott. I mean, they could likely get over what happened between them and be acquaintances, but I don't really see it happen. Another problem is I've had issues with a Dott fan a few times who would constantly go through hoops to prove that Dott was canon despite showing me fanart which is fake.
MxZ is a bit of a different story however, I used to sort of like it when I got back into the TD fandom over a year ago. Then ever since TDAS ended, my fondness for the pairing gradually died...I couldn't stand how oh so perfect they were, and I also was sick of how much their characters revolved around each other.
DxS is sort of like MxZ in some ways, but the characters had a little more personality to them and they didn't actually get together at the end. But beforehand their sexual tension got incredibly irritating, and they also revolved too much on the other in their screentime which I felt dragged them down as characters.

Favorite Song: Come Fly With Us has also been dethroned, though I'll count it as my second favorite. But something about Ella's song she sang when she was eliminated in TDPI I enjoy. Despite Ella being unfairly eliminated, she's accepting and not bearing a grudge towards anyone. She also realizes that she can now sing as much as she wants with no one to stop her from doing so. So beautiful...we all wish we could be like you, Ella...

Despised Song: A Chinese Lesson. While I don't really hate this song (mostly because of the contestants' reactions throughout amuse me for some reason), it doesn't feel much like a song, nor is it that catchy.

Favorite Episode: Dodgebrawl. I was torn between this and a lot of other episodes in the first season. But I love the idea of the challenge being as simple as dodgeball, it's very amusing. And the things that happened as a result were so funny. Though considering how I'm a big fan of Noah, I also found this episode to be along the lines of bittersweet.

Despised Episode: Sundae Muddy Sundae. Well, Picnic at Hanging Dork, you've been dethroned here. To a lot of people, this episode feels like a big slap in the face. It caused a major uproar in the fanbase a couple weeks ago mainly because of how Courtney's character was handled (even a lot of people who admitted to hating her knew this was bad), even by watching the previews we knew her elimination was gonna happen unless maybe some surprise twist occurred later. Apparently they decided that they should just get rid of Courtney by making her bad traits magnified for no particular reason so we wouldn't miss her. I mean, this episode is so against Courtney that it actually hurts to watch. If you were going to eliminate her, fine, but can she leave the show while happy for once and not destroy her friendship with Gwen and relationship with Scott!? Seriously, her rekindling her friendship with Gwen was a complete waste then if you were just going to end it like that. WHY!? Most of the fanbase have waited THREE YEARS for them to become friends again, and then you just throw that out the window! That's just pure garbage writing, and with all the plotholes littered throughout, Sundae Muddy Sundae now takes the despised episode spot. I don't think I've ever felt so upset about any other episode I've seen on a show before.
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corbinace In reply to ??? [2013-12-06 23:46:37 +0000 UTC]

Dawn and Scott make a horrible couple

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DazedDaisiesO-o In reply to corbinace [2014-01-03 21:50:22 +0000 UTC]

I disagree

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to corbinace [2013-12-06 23:48:57 +0000 UTC]

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martathebeatles In reply to ??? [2013-12-06 12:45:17 +0000 UTC]

I am totally with you, we love and hate same things (only Gwen is my fav. Courtney is my sec fav.).

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kingofthedededes73 [2013-12-06 03:00:06 +0000 UTC]

Lightning is indeed very annoying and despicable, but Al has to be one of my least favs XP

but with your argument i can definitely see how all stars was rushed and had its flaws. Especially with how they got rid of characters like Duncan, Courtney, and even Cameron. Not to mention how in the Finale they pretty much imply that Β a majority of the cast was sent Β into Oblivion from being stuck in Own's giant Gas bubbles that Chris never considered tying down XD (i'm sure they popped but still sucks to be them!)


most underrated for me has to be Noah, most overrated.. idk really.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to kingofthedededes73 [2013-12-06 17:56:13 +0000 UTC]

I'm kinda "ehh..." about Alejandro, mainly since he kinda has some Gary Stu qualities.

Still, having the rest of the All-Stars left in the gas-filled balloons blown to who knows where just bothered me the whole time. Even if I didn't like one or two of them, I still feel bad for them...

Though I'm not sure if Noah fits the underrated character thing since he's actually very popular in the fandom.

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kingofthedededes73 In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2013-12-06 18:17:40 +0000 UTC]

yea its funny how Owen's only appearance this season (to continue him being in every season XD) has him unwittingly getting rid of everyone else.


huh i would have never thought noah had a lot of fans, his role was so minor

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Jack314592 In reply to ??? [2013-12-05 23:40:18 +0000 UTC]

WOW! We actually have a lot in common We have the same favorite season and song, and the same despised season, song and episode But here's just a few things that we can ACTUALLY talk about:


Eh, I know I'll sound crazy (I always do) but I actually like Lightning. I feel like he's a good comic relief and could have been a great character if they made him into more of anti-hero instead of an antagonist. Other than that, nothing else to say really, except I think Dott is meh. I think I should do one of these soon.... sorry I can't think of more to say

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-06 17:50:29 +0000 UTC]

I probably wouldn't mind Lightning's character much if he was handled better and probably left halfway through, but okay.

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Jack314592 In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2013-12-07 06:10:17 +0000 UTC]

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GracielovesYoshi222 In reply to ??? [2013-12-05 21:21:44 +0000 UTC]

I thought TDA was bad and then I saw TDAS

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WTHappened In reply to GracielovesYoshi222 [2013-12-07 09:28:04 +0000 UTC]

Me too

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GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-05 19:46:15 +0000 UTC]

The fifth season tanked hard.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-05 19:51:32 +0000 UTC]

It's a shame, since I was excited about the idea of the different casts interacting (that type of thing held a ton of promise for me)...But we need a better "All-Stars" season done right...

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2013-12-05 19:52:43 +0000 UTC]

This was horrible. And I am so upset about Gwen and Courtney.

Hell, Mike vs. Zoey didn't feel much like a victory. And let's not even talk about the ending.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-05 19:55:59 +0000 UTC]

The Mike vs. Zoey finale felt really underwhelming...

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2013-12-05 19:59:24 +0000 UTC]

Good Lord, yes What a damn mess.

And as much as I love those two........They weren't used well this season.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-05 23:39:13 +0000 UTC]

Hey again! Hope I'm not barging in I actually think All-Stars is worse than World Tour (even though I liked World Tour) because- World Tour only focuses on the Love Triangle for 4 episodes. After that, it's mentioned, but not a main focus, or at least, AS main a focus. In All-Stars, it drags on a long time, and THERE was where I think most fans wanted it fixed, but they just said NOPE! So, if WT is still your least favorite, that's cool, but for me... ALL-STARS

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-05 23:40:07 +0000 UTC]

Say no more, Jack. All-Stars IS the worst season.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-05 23:43:35 +0000 UTC]

I feel especially sorry for you and the other Courtney fans (I'm a fan, but not she's not one of my MAIN favorites like you guys. But she's still up there ) for how this season ended... praying Pahkitew will pick things back up

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-05 23:45:47 +0000 UTC]

Forget Pahkitew, I will not be tuning in. I just want them to feel our fandom fury.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-05 23:50:02 +0000 UTC]

I know, hopefully when they sent that message out, they got the message, and some resolution will hopefully be had. I personally will give TD another chance, but if Pahkitew fails, I think I'm out

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-05 23:53:29 +0000 UTC]

But they asked for feedback in TDA and TDWT as they just did two days ago apparently, and if they haven't learned in three years despite those two sessions being held, we might still be in huge trouble. We gotta get the word out and profess our anger now, harder than ever before.

Don't torment yourself with a studio that's not even trying.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-06 00:09:42 +0000 UTC]

That's true, and I think maybe some more should be done. Plus, all of our suggestions are sadly only going to the secretary, who it sounds like is going to lump all of our ideas together and pitch them to Tom. Yikes...


Yeah, like I said, TD (in my opinion) has never had back-to-back bad seasons TDI- Good, TDA- Bad, TDWT- Good, TDROTI- Good, TDAS- Bad (I know you dislike WT too though) so if Pahkitew is bad, that's when I'll pull the plug on TD, but I hope they prove they're listening.

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-06 00:36:35 +0000 UTC]

Are you sending in your feedback? We could always use an extra voice.

Uggh, you know I'm going to disagree with that one.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-06 01:21:22 +0000 UTC]

Yup. I told them they should REALLY look back at what fans like and dislike, put out more polls and pitch more ideas to viewers, and take time to think over all their ideas. I WANTED to give them specifics, but they said "Please no character or 'shipping complaints".


I know, but I liked World Tour because at LEAST it created a fun atmosphere and kept it until around the end when it got more serious. But that's what I think makes a season like WT good, and AS bad- World Tour is goofy characters in a serious environment. All-Stars is serious characters in a goofy environment. Plus, again, I think AS does more less to help the damage, which I think we can both agree onΒ 

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-06 01:22:58 +0000 UTC]

No, you should give them specifics. To illustrate the severity of the larger problem encompassing them.

World Tour was not fun. Not when the second half kicked in.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-06 01:46:53 +0000 UTC]

I know, and I wanted too, but I wanted to address majors, and I was ready to tell them about ruining characters, but then I read it over again and it said that.... now it's sort of too late. When I did it, it was a few hours after the announcement. It's probably blown up now...Β 


Yeah, I guess I can sort of agree. That was when the seriousness kicked in. But you know, everybody's gonna have different views, so if World Tour was a bad season to you, that's fine (plus, I know a lot of people don't think highly of it )

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-06 02:05:01 +0000 UTC]

You really should write a followup message though, you can cite these examples that you want to to illustrate the larger problem.

That's when it became cruel and mean-spirited.

World Tour was a nightmare. All-Stars is the slightly worse nightmare.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-06 05:37:24 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, okay, I might They could definitely use it...



Yep


I see your point, but there's a reason I think World Tour WASN'T awful, while All-Stars was. World Tour was originally my least favorite due to the Triangle but upon a re-watch, I realized WT had great side-characters, interesting main characters, an intimidating Villain, and great scenery. All-Stars had no interesting side characters, no clear protagonist, a bland antagonist, and goofy scenery. That's why I liked World Tour


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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-06 05:50:07 +0000 UTC]

Please do. We need to use all of our ammunition this time.

Horrific turn for the series.

Not that World Tour didn't have a few good points, but after the triangle emerged, that was all negated, and it just became full-blown lust-triggered warfare among the contestants. And God, it was unpleasant. I can't watch World Tour anymore because of it. But All-Stars is worse on most of the major counts like the ones you listed.

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Jack314592 In reply to GundamSamuraiAkira [2013-12-06 05:57:38 +0000 UTC]

I'll try, and I hope they ARE listening...


Yep...


Yeah, I can pretty much agree on that, except once again, I do like it, and that's just something I can't help. Maybe it's a guilty pleasure kind of thing

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GundamSamuraiAkira In reply to Jack314592 [2013-12-06 06:09:55 +0000 UTC]

If they're not, we'd better make them pay for it. What pisses me off most is the character development, there's almost none! And whatever there is, it's either negative or ends up being rendered meaningless.

I burn every time I dwell on it.

If only TDWT was even that good for me. Sad thing is though, it wasn't.

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PinkiesPartyGirl In reply to ??? [2013-12-05 19:44:55 +0000 UTC]

Wow, I can't believe I never made the comparisons between Courtney and Wendy before! They're so obvious!

Funnily enough, Dawn x Scott is one of my favorite shippings (And pretty much a guilty pleasure of mine.) while Duncan x Gwen has started to grow on me, whereas it used to be my most dis-liked shipping.

Hearing about the finale, and looking over various episodes, I've now realized that Zoey pretty much took Courtney's friendship place beside Gwen, and Gwen kind of took Mike's place between Cameron and Zoey.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to PinkiesPartyGirl [2013-12-05 19:52:55 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, Wendy's like a younger version of Courtney, though I feel Wendy is a bit more calm.

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And Cameron x Gwen might be a thing, not sure what to think of that though...

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TDArulesclub4 In reply to ??? [2013-12-05 19:08:55 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, good argument in despised episode. I don't like that ep now xP

Courtney fans FTW

That Dodgeball episode. It was freaking awesome. :3

Duncan should die

How about Scourtney? Not sur if you're a Scott fan, but it was pretty interesting in TDAS


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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to TDArulesclub4 [2013-12-05 19:27:39 +0000 UTC]

I like Scourtney actually, shipped it a few weeks before TDAS premiered actually.

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to ??? [2013-12-05 19:04:31 +0000 UTC]

I agree with B. Β Silent Bob rip off character needs more love.

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2013-12-05 19:05:41 +0000 UTC]

Yupper-doodle!~

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2013-12-05 21:34:58 +0000 UTC]

XD

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Kitty-McGeeky97 In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2013-12-06 01:55:16 +0000 UTC]

You know, I'm actually thinking about a TD Christmas themed picture, with Gwen and Courtney as the Miser Brothers. What do you think about that?

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to Kitty-McGeeky97 [2013-12-06 01:57:31 +0000 UTC]

Sounds off the hook.

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sucieFue In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2013-12-06 03:02:13 +0000 UTC]

"There Too Much" lol

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to sucieFue [2013-12-06 03:06:27 +0000 UTC]

?

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sucieFue In reply to ShonenJump4eva [2013-12-07 08:55:44 +0000 UTC]

it a quote from there song eitherΒ Snow Miser Song/Heat Miser Song, that "I'm too Much".

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ShonenJump4eva In reply to sucieFue [2013-12-07 13:55:47 +0000 UTC]

Ah. Β Although it's "They're" not "There".

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