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Fetus (first trimester):[link]: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth
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: An infant; a newborn child.
A fetus is not a baby. Not even close.
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So? I don't see that mattering, what with coma patients Or babies less than a year old.
Coma patients and months-old-babies are sentient.
If a woman willing/knowingly went through the process required to get pregnant, then by definition she went through the process required to create a Human Life Willing/Knowingly as well
By that logic a person who's drowning deserves the consequence because they knew beforehand the risk of getting in the water. Or that someone who smoked for years and developed lung cancer should be denied medical treatment because they knew the risks of smoking.
So there are consequences for that
Abortion is a consequence. It's not an easy decision that any woman makes on a whim, especially when there are imbeciles who stand outside of clinics doing nothing but yelling vitriol at patients because they think they have authority over other people's lives (or some who decide to kill people in the name of "life").
that reduction of those said consequences, is/should only be allowed in in special case's.NOT whenever it takes somone's fancy.
So in other words pregnancy is best suited as a punishment for women who do things you disapprove of.
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Holy shit, thank you so much for this.
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Fetus is after the first trimester.
It's an embro, not a fetus.
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I'm aware, though it's the word most commonly used in this particular debate. I thought it would fit better.
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They don't look the same. Neither penises and vaginas, right?
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You're a bag of cells too ya' know...just sayin'.
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The difference is that I'm sentient.
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When does a being become sentient oh wise one?
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During synapses, when a fetus's nervous system has developed and it can actually have the capacity to feel things.
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Sounds variable...no definite time...people in comas aren't sentient...(off topic don't care)
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People in comas still are sentient.
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bad example, they know things around them they just can't respond...I think a baby is a baby infant or fetus (don't give a crap about the dictionary definition of "baby" looked it up, already you don't need to use it make your point). no wi f you please we're not going to change eachothers minds, so if you please this conversation is ended.
~Thank You for your time
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If you didn't want a debate, you shouldn't have commented.
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I did want a debate; then I realized it was pointless. So I ended it. *shrugs*
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Even if it hasn't had a breath of life, abortion is still murder. According to other people animals don't have "souls" an yet they feel pain, the feel happiness, they have feelings. Its no difference with a Fetus, they will become scared an move away from foreign objects that enter the womb, they'll suck their thumb/foot/hand. If you don't want the kid PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION!Only time adoration should be an option is 1. Its a rape baby, 2. You'll die from having it, or 3. the baby will die.
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Even if it hasn't had a breath of life, abortion is still murder.
Murder: n. The unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.
v. Kill (someone) unlawfully and with premeditation.
According to other people animals don't have "souls" an yet they feel pain, the feel happiness, they have feelings.
A "soul" has yet to be proven real, and that's not what makes animals feel just as humans do. It's all in the brain, which is hardly developed in a first trimester fetus (which is the trimester most fetuses are aborted).
Its no difference with a Fetus, they will become scared an move away from foreign objects that enter the womb, they'll suck their thumb/foot/hand.
A first trimester fetus feels absolutely nothing. At this stage it's insentient and doesn't even have any thumbs/feet/hands. It looks more like a shrimp if anything.
If you don't want the kid PUT IT UP FOR ADOPTION!
Yes, let's throw another baby into a system with millions upon millions of unwanted children; where their chance for adoption is incredibly slim, especially if they're not white and healthy. That sure does sound like a wonderful life.
Only time adoration should be an option is 1. Its a rape baby, 2. You'll die from having it, or 3. the baby will die.
Adoration? I think you mean abortion. But hey, at least you have some semblance of empathy.
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1. Oh wow you know the meaning of Murder ,good boy/girl
2. Which apparently you don't have...
3. Oh really now? How do you know? Are you a fetus? [link] < First term fetus aborted with a partial birth abortion.
4. Wrong adoption, i mean the Surrogate mother thing...
5. Whatever. Main point is, if ya don't want the kid, keep your legs closed
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A lot of bitches like having their legs open and then pay for abortion.
I say kill those bitches.
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Hmm...i like that way you think. They pretty much use Abortion for Birth control...and now there's an abortion method(not sure what it was called) but your pretty much abortion a full grown baby that could live outside its mothers womb....
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Use abortion for birth control?
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Why not use the much less expensive birth control when having sex?
BECAUSE BAWWWW DEY WANT 2 KIL DA BBYS.
Seriously, where are all these women using abortion as birth control? I want to know.
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Abortion is just an excuse for promiscuous women to not become mothers because they fucked up, plain and simple.
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So if they were raped, they find out their baby will be physically disabled... would they have fucked up then?
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That's a bullshit theory. Deformed babies have been born to consented sex and healthy babies have been born to rape. No, but I'm talking about how teenage girls and women are so fuckin' irresponsible for their promiscuous actions. There's a difference between being a slut and getting raped, although in most cases rape occurs because the woman is a slut. Look at Jessie Slaughter.
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I was giving two separate examples, my apologies if it didn't make sense.Β My point was, what if the mother was raped, or if her baby woulf be deformed or if she wouldn't survive the birth? Peoplle should have contraception if they won't be able to take care of a baby, but even if they irresponsibly have sex and get pregnant, it is still the mother's choice. Β I think it's better that a fetus is removed than a child is born with a parent that can't care for it or if it ends up waiting for years in the adoption system. Β Also, it is always the rapist's fault. A woman should be able to wear what she pleases without being afraid of rape.Β
I respect your argument, however, but my opinion is that the mother should decide. Perhaps, yes, Β she should of been responsible, but it is still HER uterus the fetus is growing in, and it would be HER that has to unwillingly care for it it's whole life.Β
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No, it's the mother's choice to close her fucking legs and not get drunk or drugged to prevent being raped and then carrying the product of a rape.
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Pff.
I disagree with that so much, but I suppose anything I say to oppose that won't change your opinion.
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What's your rebuttal?
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I really no longer want to discuss anything with you, because your point made me feel physically sick.
It's as though you are suggesting that rapists and molesters are perfectly normal and humane, but seriously? A girl at a local school near mine was gang raped quite recently, and I can assure you she did not bring that on herself. The only people at fault were the four older boys who viciously attacked and molested her. If you actually believe that in similar scenarios it is the victim like her who is at fault, then there is something wrong with you.
Please leave me alone, because each argument you have brought in your defence is actually depressing me to think there are people as sick as you who blame it on the victim of rape. You might as well cheer for the rapist and give them a round of applause, if that is what you are saying.
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Happens in nature. Maybe I'm contradicting myself, but if humans are so "rational", why not tie the girl's tubes when they turn 12?
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I'm not even going to dignify that with a response.
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Yet you dignify women pooping out unwanted children whether fully developed or not.
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Says the person who dignifies rape.
Look, my opinion when it comes to abortion, is that it is the mothers choice. If she doesn't want to abort it? Fine. If she does? Up to her. It should only be the mother's choice. Would you rather an embryo is removed from the mother's uterus of her own accord, or would you prefer an unwanted baby was bornΒ to an unloving mother, and probably grow up to spend it's life in the adoption system?
If you disagree with abortion, then that's fine. If you ever have a baby, then you don't have to abort it, do you?
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What if I'm the father?
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Then you respect the mother's opinion. You don't have to deal with the pregnancy. The labor pain. The morning sickness. The mood swings. The general effects of hormones flying and the feeling of a being that is not even sentient growing inside you. You should never get married, you should never have a child. Because something tells me you would be a terrible husband and father.
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On top of that, you clearly don't know how mentally and physically traumatizing rape is. Men can be raped too. It is an invasion of your body, and an act that should be saved for lovers is forced onto you in a horrific and often brutal way. Rape victims (women in this case, men can't be pregnant) should be allowed to abort rape babies. I know I would. I don't want a child of a rapist, and I don't need the physical pain and suffering of pregnancy along with the mental trauma of rape. I really don't.
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No wonder women are hated. "Hurr durr it's meh body n I can doo wutevah I want with it." Misogyny is just an insult word for people like Shopenhauer.
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Then you should have forced sterilizations andΒ genital mutilationΒ at an age where you can remember it full well. And yes, a woman's body is hers, and she can do whatever she wants with it. That is true. Just like you have your body and you can do whatever you want with it.
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Unfortunately, you choose to be stupid.
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I can do things with my body, like, let's say, stab and pull the trigger.
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Yes, and I can watch you do that to yourself while eating a bucket of popcorn~
Now I want popcorn. I'll go make some~ bye!
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I could just do that to you. After all, it's my body, I do what I want and I want to trigger a gun while aiming at you. See, my body does not affect yours, it just triggers the action where the bullet breaks the sound barrier and goes right through you, effectively terminating you.
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sigh.
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I'm no longer going to reply to any of your stupid comments, because this conversation is exasperating me. Your opinion actually sickens me.
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Good day to you.
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Yay for misandry, where the cunt has all the decisions.
You know what would be better? Mass sterilization to avoid having selective and biased feminazi idiots like you being popped out of their mothers each second.
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It should be a law to have girls tie their tubes at the age of 12 or whatever age they entered puberty at. Abortion costs more money than just declining from having sex.
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It should be a law to have girls tie their tubes at the age of 12 or whatever age they entered puberty at.
Forced sterilization is not the answer regardless of how well-intentioned it is.
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