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Description Fetus (first trimester):[link]
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth

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: An infant; a newborn child.

A fetus is not a baby. Not even close.


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Kanean In reply to ??? [2013-04-03 17:32:50 +0000 UTC]

Yep pretty much, only time Abortion should be an option is when its a product of rape, or if the mother or baby is going to die.

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tigerchomped In reply to Kanean [2013-05-18 04:58:06 +0000 UTC]

I'll have an abortion in your honor. You know, for funsies.

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D0gb0nes In reply to tigerchomped [2013-12-22 04:04:50 +0000 UTC]

 I swear to God I find you in almost every single stamp's comments that I look at xD

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Kanean In reply to tigerchomped [2013-05-18 05:52:37 +0000 UTC]

and i hope when you do ,they fuck up and you never can have children again

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tigerchomped In reply to Kanean [2013-05-18 05:56:30 +0000 UTC]

So much for a caring, pro-life person~

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Kanean In reply to tigerchomped [2013-05-18 06:13:14 +0000 UTC]

Like you one to talk, never said anything bout you dieing now did i?

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tigerchomped In reply to Kanean [2013-05-18 06:24:34 +0000 UTC]

I'm not pro-life, hun.

No but you wish me to be harmed.

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Kanean In reply to tigerchomped [2013-05-18 06:28:13 +0000 UTC]

Nooo i thought you were...Ya i did, but i go by Treat people how you want to be treated, im just goin with how you apperently want be treat

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tigerchomped In reply to Kanean [2013-05-18 17:11:35 +0000 UTC]

Are you retarded?

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BlondBeastBoy In reply to Kanean [2013-04-03 19:15:21 +0000 UTC]

Yeah, pretty much.

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Kanean In reply to ??? [2013-03-03 03:36:32 +0000 UTC]

Then explain why when a Fetus is being a aborted it will try and MOVE AWAY from the needle or the doctors hand? Not the same thing? I. BEG. TO. DIFFER.

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Kotego In reply to Kanean [2013-03-03 17:19:21 +0000 UTC]

It's called a reflex. Anything with nerves will move involuntarily, even a plant, which is completely insentient.

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Kanean In reply to Kotego [2013-03-03 17:22:46 +0000 UTC]

Ok, then explain to me why a Single Celled Organism is a Living thing, but a Fetus is not?

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Kotego In reply to Kanean [2013-03-03 17:26:55 +0000 UTC]

I never said it isn't living. It's just insentient.

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Kanean In reply to Kotego [2013-03-03 17:40:21 +0000 UTC]

Ok, have you ever heard a someone say "Oh! your expecting a Fetus" or " When is the Fetus do?" No you don't, seems when ever a woman WANTS the kid its a baby when they don't want its a fetus. Murder is Murder weather the thing have breathed air or not! How do know that it doesn't feel pain? How do you know it doesn't want to live?

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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Kanean [2013-06-20 00:24:40 +0000 UTC]

By your logic, masturbation is murder because millions of sperm that could be potential babies are lost.

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Kanean In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-06-20 00:46:14 +0000 UTC]

.. If anyone body on this damn page had any knowledge of a Baby in the womb you would know that a babies heart starts beating at 18 days of conception(of when the male and female have sex). Sperm is different, MUCH different. Sperm does not have a heart beat, nor do single celled organisms. You, Sir/madam need to re-take biology and learn bout reproduction some more.

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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Kanean [2013-06-20 02:24:38 +0000 UTC]

I am taking three AP level Biology courses at this time, one of which is Biology of Reproduction. Can you give me your source where you found your information regarding the baby's heartbeat?

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Kanean In reply to GlassBottleDemon [2013-06-20 02:48:02 +0000 UTC]

[link]

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GlassBottleDemon In reply to Kanean [2013-06-20 03:00:06 +0000 UTC]

That's a pro-life website, aka a biased website. Those websites skew their claims to be pro-life.
Also, that's only one source. Multiple sources are always better.

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When is the earliest you can see a heartbeat on ultrasound? At about six weeks into pregnancy (four weeks from conception), you should be able to see your baby's heartbeat on ultrasound.

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The heartbeat can generally be picked up by doppler between 10-12 weeks.

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Your baby's heart will start beating at 22 or 23 days post-conception, which is during the fifth week of your pregnancy. However, your baby's heart is too small at this point and doesn't generate enough sound waves to be audible, even when amplified by the use of medical equipment.


As you can see, different sources say different things, but if you were to calculate an average, the earliest a fetus' heart can actually start beating is about 20 days in. However, it is not strong enough to even be detected until much later, about 6-10 weeks later.

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88-92% of all abortions happen during the first trimester, prior to the 13th week of gestation (AGI/CDC).

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Most abortions (88%) are obtained in the first trimester of pregnancy. In fact, over half of all abortions are obtained within the first 8 weeks. Fewer than 2% occur at 21 weeks or later.

As you can see, most abortions take place BEFORE the fetus' heartbeat starts/is detectable.
Either way, a beating heart =/= a living thing. The fetus isn't sentient until its brain forms around the 24th week of pregnancy, and it also does not follow all of the seven biological criteria of a living thing.

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Kotego In reply to Kanean [2013-03-03 17:52:43 +0000 UTC]

Ok, have you ever heard a someone say "Oh! your expecting a Fetus" or " When is the Fetus do?"

Common expressions don't change scientific fact.

Murder is Murder weather the thing have breathed air or not!

Have you ever stepped on grass before? Crushed a flower? Hurt a tree? Eaten meat? If so, your logic dictates you're a murderer.

How do know that it doesn't feel pain? How do you know it doesn't want to live?

Scientific research, so far, believes that a fetus doesn't feel anything until the third trimester. Also, how do you know it wants to live?

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Kanean In reply to Kotego [2013-03-03 18:04:48 +0000 UTC]

"Scientific fact" Says that the TLC in weed doesn't cure cancer, but it does(Hemp Oil...

Ya, humans are murderers, there still isn't any difference.

Scientific Research BELIEVES that a fetus doesnt feel pain, BELIEVES. So that don't really know?

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DJ-Bleach In reply to Kanean [2013-03-14 07:04:00 +0000 UTC]

Girl, just give up. He has you beat.

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Kanean In reply to DJ-Bleach [2013-03-14 07:11:07 +0000 UTC]

If you would have bothered to read ALL the comments maybe you would have notest this convo has been done for the passed month

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DJ-Bleach In reply to Kanean [2013-03-14 07:15:17 +0000 UTC]

And?

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MangaOtakuTB15 In reply to ??? [2012-06-30 12:39:29 +0000 UTC]

HOW WOULDZ YUU LIK IT IF YER MUM ABORTED YUU?!!!!!`

I wouldn't feel anything cause I wouldn't exist if that happened.

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Kotego In reply to MangaOtakuTB15 [2012-06-30 17:07:26 +0000 UTC]

Exactly

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MangaOtakuTB15 In reply to Kotego [2012-07-01 05:47:09 +0000 UTC]

"BUT THA CHILD COUDHVE LEARNED THA WERLD!!!!11 WHY KILLZ IT! THAT"S WONNNG!~~~111"

Right, like we NEED to make adoption houses filled with MORE homeless children. What happened to them. Why not give THEM a chance to see the world first. They're alive too! Also, I'll consider you "pro-life" when overfishing stops, elephant/rhino poaching for ivory stops,people eat neither plants nor animals (cause that's eating life! D, animal testing, etc.

When all these LIFE topics are resolved, only then will I be concerned about debating whether killing cells not developed is murder nor not.

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Kotego In reply to MangaOtakuTB15 [2012-07-01 16:55:44 +0000 UTC]

Yep, but apparently once you leave the womb, you're just not that important anymore (unless you become a vegetable, then all of a sudden your life matters again). What, children all around the world are starving? Forget them, we have insentient cells to worry about!

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Ghost245 In reply to ??? [2012-05-15 17:54:30 +0000 UTC]

..I just came up with some thing... correct me if I'm wrong but... aren't chicken eggs Fetus in some way? and we eat them with no issues so...wtf?!

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SpongeMuffin In reply to Ghost245 [2012-07-05 05:24:12 +0000 UTC]

Chicken eggs are not chicken fetuses, no.

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Ghost245 In reply to SpongeMuffin [2012-07-05 12:48:18 +0000 UTC]

eh It was just some weird idea I came up with, I'm not that much of a smart man... just one with lots of odd ball ideas ._.'

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Kotego In reply to Ghost245 [2012-05-15 20:00:15 +0000 UTC]

I suppose so.

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Ghost245 In reply to Kotego [2012-05-15 20:03:52 +0000 UTC]

again more humans before animals Bs ¬.¬

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Kotego In reply to Ghost245 [2012-05-15 20:04:16 +0000 UTC]

Or just plain hypocrasy.

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Ghost245 In reply to Kotego [2012-05-15 21:48:46 +0000 UTC]

That too that too :3

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ryufury In reply to ??? [2011-10-18 04:07:56 +0000 UTC]

Technically correct by current definitions. The real question is at what exact microsecond does a fetus become a baby, and why does it then gain substantial value.

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Kanean In reply to ryufury [2013-03-03 03:49:09 +0000 UTC]

If this is correct then tell me, why is it that a single celled organisms is consider living thing, and yet a fetus isn't?

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ryufury In reply to Kanean [2013-03-10 19:14:03 +0000 UTC]

Wow this comment is old.

Short answer is politics. A fetus is not legally seen as human and is even propagated as not living to push forward a political agenda. It seems the truth doesn't really matter to some.

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Kanean In reply to ryufury [2013-03-10 19:25:02 +0000 UTC]

one term of a Pregnancy is 12 weeks...The baby's heart starts at 21 Days..Tell me there not the same now

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ryufury In reply to Kanean [2013-03-10 19:51:56 +0000 UTC]

I never stated my viewpoint on whether a fetus is a baby or not, only what is legally accepted and why. I personally see no real distinction between the two because I cannot define where one ends and the other begins.

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Kanean In reply to ryufury [2013-03-10 19:58:14 +0000 UTC]

Well whats Legally accepted and whats Naturally true are to totally different things then.

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ryufury In reply to Kanean [2013-03-10 20:02:55 +0000 UTC]

As far as I can tell, yes.

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Kanean In reply to ryufury [2013-03-10 20:12:08 +0000 UTC]

Stupid Politician thinking their smart enough to tell when life starts -_-; They should try sticking to something their good at...like stealing our money.

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ryufury In reply to Kanean [2013-03-10 20:39:48 +0000 UTC]

Ha, and slowly dismantling our freedoms...

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Kanean In reply to ryufury [2013-03-10 20:56:15 +0000 UTC]

Exacly...Maybe the american people should do what Iceland did, They ether Hung or Jailed the politicians .3.

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ryufury In reply to Kanean [2013-03-10 21:05:51 +0000 UTC]

Held accountable for their actions in some way at least.

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Kanean In reply to ryufury [2013-03-10 21:20:54 +0000 UTC]

yep yep

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ThestralWizard In reply to ryufury [2013-02-12 02:03:42 +0000 UTC]

I believe at the moment of birth as a valid possibility, as well as the moment it develops a brain (AKA has neural responses or brain activity).

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Bat-Snake In reply to ryufury [2011-10-30 21:58:36 +0000 UTC]

The moment it crowns out...

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