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Description Fetus (first trimester):[link]
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually two months after conception to birth

Baby:[link]
: An infant; a newborn child.

A fetus is not a baby. Not even close.


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shadamyrulzX3 In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 08:33:50 +0000 UTC]

I have a question. what if the woman was brutally raped, the victim has already gone through that traumatic experience, I don't think they'll be mentally fit or 'stable' to rear a child.
what do you do? just out of curiousity ^^

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kharmachaos In reply to shadamyrulzX3 [2011-04-23 20:36:45 +0000 UTC]

A child can also be a healing. Just imagine, if you were hurt like that, and there's someone there to help you through it, who would not judge you harshly and would rather hug you and cry with you then ignore your hurt like too many of us would do. And knowing that you were strong enough to keep and take care of your child instead of give up like many others would help you come to terms with yourself.
Me? I would keep the child, no matter what.

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shadamyrulzX3 In reply to kharmachaos [2011-04-23 20:40:54 +0000 UTC]

I guess, if given to the right person a child can help someone ^^
personally I support pro-choice because if a woman truly cannot cope with a child after such a traumatic experience they should have that option. but I do think people use abortion more than they need to, why not use safe sex instead, least there's less of a risk :3
considering how quickly I become attatched to things I'd probably keep the child regardless, thanks for your oppinion ^^

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kharmachaos In reply to shadamyrulzX3 [2011-04-23 21:01:07 +0000 UTC]

And thank you for being the most civil with your opinion.

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shadamyrulzX3 In reply to kharmachaos [2011-04-24 09:14:33 +0000 UTC]

no problem, a debate is fine but I'd rather not start arguemnents ^^

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i-stamp In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 08:19:38 +0000 UTC]

Will never suffer under an overburdened foster care system. Will never pass through their childhood parentless because so few pro-life people put their money where their mouth is. Will not add to the already outrageous natural resource shortage which will likely end in restrictive breeding in a few generations if more pregnancies aren't stopped now. Will never know they were a fetus or that their mother was a fetus or be aware of its existence to care. Will never be murdered, because 'murder' is unlawful killing and abortion isn't unlawful. Will never know high and mighty individuals who feel like it's their duty to tell women to do with their body, which includes their uterus, which is not owned by a fetus, or aforementioned self-righteous individuals.

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kharmachaos In reply to i-stamp [2011-04-23 20:28:21 +0000 UTC]

Will never try to learn from their parent's mistakes. Will never put their money where their mouth is. Will never feel. Will never breathe. Will never try to change the bad things we face with because of their pain, will never get the chance. Will never be able to make a choice for themselves, instead of being shoved in the "bad" bandwagon. Will never get a chance for anything.
Will never be abused, hurt, and once suicidal like I once was. Will never be determined to change this horrid world, once step at a time, BECAUSE of that, like I will.

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i-stamp In reply to kharmachaos [2011-04-23 20:46:28 +0000 UTC]

Will never know or care about some stranger's sob story and insistence that it's potential future would be brighter, without cause.

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kharmachaos In reply to i-stamp [2011-04-23 21:00:20 +0000 UTC]

Okay now that is just pathetic.
Who says it's without cause? You? Because I know for a fact that at LEAST I will try.

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i-stamp In reply to kharmachaos [2011-04-23 22:14:15 +0000 UTC]

Who says it's without cause?

The fact that you don't know the future or if it would be better with and for more unwanted children.

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kharmachaos In reply to i-stamp [2011-04-23 22:27:21 +0000 UTC]

As neither do you. And we'll just have to wait, won't we, because things are obviously not progressing now. I WONDER WHY.

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i-stamp In reply to kharmachaos [2011-04-24 01:30:50 +0000 UTC]

Never claimed I did. But I loathe retarded arguments like "That fetus could become the next Mother Theresa!" when, in reality, it could also become the next Hitler. Similarly, saying that there's a bright and fuzzy future for all the fetuses that are aborted is obnoxiously naive. Especially considering resource shortages becoming drastically worse with every new generation. We need less people in this world, not more.

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kharmachaos In reply to i-stamp [2011-04-25 06:49:26 +0000 UTC]

In all honesty, it's the person's optimism/pessimism that changes THAT argument.
As on the contrary, I loathe retarded arguements like "That Fetus could have been the next Hitler!" When, in reality, it could also become the next Mother Teresa. Etc etc blah blah blah.
See my point?

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CrystallicDragon In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 05:18:41 +0000 UTC]

Yep. Totally true.
I think it's hilarious that fetuses (feti?) have more rights that actual children.

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Kotego In reply to CrystallicDragon [2011-04-23 12:25:56 +0000 UTC]

I don't know the plural either


That is funny, and sad. Fetus' receive more attention than the starving children all over the world.

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hoofandsnort In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 04:37:44 +0000 UTC]

A fetus is no longer reading your genetic code, it is reading its own unique genetic code in order to grow and develop. Though it is basically a parasite until it is born, and cannot survive without the mother, it is no longer the mother. Thus I feel that abortion that is used to save a mother's life can be argued for and should not be outlawed, however, I have no respect for those who have abortions instead of practicing safe sex. (and since I know someone will say "but what about accidents?1!!?". they happen-but you can minimize your risk.)

If you are an adult, grow up and utilize one of the hundreds of options available to prevent unwanted pregnancies. Though I would not argue for abortions to be outlawed (people will find a way-usually a dangerous one, they always have), doctors should be able to decide whether they wish to perform the procedure or not.

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sarawtf In reply to hoofandsnort [2011-04-23 19:09:09 +0000 UTC]

You know that most abortions happen because the birth control fails, right?

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hoofandsnort In reply to sarawtf [2011-04-23 19:13:58 +0000 UTC]

didn't I already address accidents?
my lack of respect is for people who fail to use birth control.
not for people for whom birth control fails.

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SonicfanX-TREME In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 03:49:46 +0000 UTC]

"ABORTIONS ARE EVIL!!! BABY KILLERS!!!!"

Me: What if the woman was raped?

"........... Um........................"

I never get the chance to explain the Fetus/Baby thing.

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Kotego In reply to SonicfanX-TREME [2011-04-23 12:14:06 +0000 UTC]

Or maybe even:

"That fetus could cure cancer!!!"

"Then you raise it"

"um .. . bye .. ."

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dark-knight-thor In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 03:07:18 +0000 UTC]

finally someone who agrees.

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Kotego In reply to dark-knight-thor [2011-04-23 03:07:51 +0000 UTC]

I think a lot of people agree xD Just check out the comments

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dark-knight-thor In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 16:03:57 +0000 UTC]

good point.

finally a bunch of people who agree!

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BlackJill In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 02:48:24 +0000 UTC]

Agreed, most people forget that a fetus is in fact not a living, biological entity until there is a heartbeat. People are emotionally deluded.

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Kotego In reply to BlackJill [2011-04-23 02:52:38 +0000 UTC]

Yes they are. It's saddening really.

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JotePaine In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 02:32:06 +0000 UTC]

about time someone gets this up, you must be dealing with a shitstorm... And you're presenting medical facts.

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Kotego In reply to JotePaine [2011-04-23 02:34:05 +0000 UTC]

So far it's turned into a pretty big debate on both sides

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JotePaine In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 02:53:53 +0000 UTC]

yeah I see that... looks fun...

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Kotego In reply to JotePaine [2011-04-23 02:55:17 +0000 UTC]

It gives me something to do, since there's not much else.

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JotePaine In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 02:59:28 +0000 UTC]

good point, this inspires me to write something academic... thanks

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Kotego In reply to JotePaine [2011-04-23 03:01:17 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome

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comatoselove In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 02:28:54 +0000 UTC]

Thank you <3

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Kotego In reply to comatoselove [2011-04-23 02:29:27 +0000 UTC]

you're welcome May I ask what for, I'm afraid I don't understand completely

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comatoselove In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 02:33:36 +0000 UTC]

People don't realize that a Fetus is a parasite. It can't survive without the mother, thus it is not a human. End of story -w-

Is mean, the definition of a parasite is:
–noun
1.
an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.
2.
a person who receives support, advantage, or the like, from another or others without giving any useful or proper return, as one who lives on the hospitality of others.
3.
(in ancient Greece) a person who received free meals in return for amusing or impudent conversation, flattering remarks, etc.
(Dictionary.com)

So yeah, fetus =/= life. Thank you for being one of the few to say that xD

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Kotego In reply to comatoselove [2011-04-23 02:34:43 +0000 UTC]

Ah, I see. Once again, you're welcome. More people need to understand this.

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comatoselove In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 02:34:58 +0000 UTC]

Exactly! x3

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anguspie In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 02:22:11 +0000 UTC]

A fetus is more of an organ than a being in it's own right.

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Kotego In reply to anguspie [2011-04-23 02:26:21 +0000 UTC]

Actually I think it's more of a parasite

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anguspie In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 02:27:48 +0000 UTC]

That implies it's alive, which it isn't until it has a functioning nervous system.

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Kotego In reply to anguspie [2011-04-23 02:28:43 +0000 UTC]

Hmm, true.

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supersonic2394161 In reply to ??? [2011-04-23 01:35:26 +0000 UTC]

By technial definition but by the average person's out look yes. in a sense if you look at it a baby is a younge child or human being and a fetus will eventually grow into one after about 6 months once most of the reall structures have formed i'd say you have your self a baby.

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Kotego In reply to supersonic2394161 [2011-04-23 01:41:50 +0000 UTC]

By technial definition but by the average person's out look yes

By an actual medical definition no it's not. One's own personal definition doesn't matter.

in a sense if you look at it a baby is a younge child or human being and a fetus will eventually grow into one after about 6 months

It's still not the same thing. A fetus is simply a potential for a baby. And, unless that's a typo, there's no way in hell a pregnancy takes only 6 months.

once most of the reall structures have formed i'd say you have your self a baby.

Which is in the third trimester. Most abortion only occur in the first, and those that aren't are usually when there's a serious medical issue involved.

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supersonic2394161 In reply to Kotego [2011-04-23 01:52:46 +0000 UTC]

Sorry I ment to put a no infront of that I swear I did but IDK what happened. Well when your pregnat are you gonan say you don;'t have a baby you have a fetus? Most people who care about their children say they have a baby no matter the age at that point in life. That's what I ment. Potential or not that fetus is alive and unless the mother dies, the fetus is removed by means of abortion, or it is killed causeing a miscarage within a year is close enough to really count in my book. When I have kids even if the mother is only an hour pregnat i'd still say I have a baby on the way. I wasn't refering to the full pregnacy just that most fetus have taken on the shape and about the size of a baby most of the major ogans have either started to or are already forming fast. But to be true a 6 month pregnacy can be survive for a premature but the odds are very slim but i've heard of it before. Well you used the term fetus whcih can be sed to decribe the baby the entire time it's in the womb until birth. Your right about most abortions occuring in the early stages bt I was refering to later into the development.

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BlackJill In reply to supersonic2394161 [2011-04-23 02:47:28 +0000 UTC]

A fetus is not a living entity until there is heartbeat. Simply because we recognize this and don't delude ourselves emotionally does not mean we don't care about our babies or children.

A fetus before a heartbeat is no different then a tumor or an organ. Your emotional attachment mean nothing to the medical definitions of these terms.

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supersonic2394161 In reply to BlackJill [2011-04-23 03:11:06 +0000 UTC]

Pardon me but is a cell not alive considerign a bby starts as a single cell it's alive. all livign things require nutrients to survive so does a fetus it's ocne again alive. A heart beat doesn't matter when you don't have a bloodvessel to to pump blood through and hence no need for a heart even if the heart if one of the first things to develope. A heartbeat is the sign of life for anthing that is already born. If the fetus was dead or not alive it couldn't grow. A tumor and organ are tissues that are completly diffrent especily a tumor becuse it's a tissue that's cells have devided improperly.

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BlackJill In reply to supersonic2394161 [2011-04-23 03:12:00 +0000 UTC]

Are your germs alive? Stop sneezing, murderer.

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supersonic2394161 In reply to BlackJill [2011-04-23 03:24:31 +0000 UTC]

Technically speaking yes they are. But considering i'm not producign them and that fact they are harmful to life i'm not. But so do you so if that's the case you just as much a muderer as I am so htink carfully about your inslts before you say them.

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Noxipie In reply to supersonic2394161 [2011-04-23 08:45:11 +0000 UTC]

All germs are not harmful to life. If that were the case, you'd be dead right now.

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supersonic2394161 In reply to Noxipie [2011-04-23 13:47:26 +0000 UTC]

Your thinking of bacteria but germs are, tipically they are virses.

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Noxipie In reply to supersonic2394161 [2011-04-23 13:47:47 +0000 UTC]

not all viruses are harmful

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