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Published: 2010-06-08 14:26:15 +0000 UTC; Views: 5192; Favourites: 185; Downloads: 32
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Rather simple compared to my other stamps, but this one has a message.It was request by my AmorissimΓͺ Puella, but this is a message we both agree on. Sex has become the equivalent to daily walks or conversations. People treat it as if it's nothing more than another outlet of for pleasure.
True, but it's so much more than that. It's a union of body and soul between two people, and act that can create new life. Something so sacred that some people (ME!) wait until marriage just to do it!
Seriously, there is a limit.
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Oh look, a bible thumper who can't accept other people's opinions. Times never change.
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Yeah, cause rolling over and admitting your right makes me unable to accept opinion. But if I have an excuse for it, like you so kindly pointed out, then what's yours for saying I'm wrong and running away?
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What are you talking about?
The bible is not a legitimate excuse for anything. Your drone-like mind might follow whatever it tells you to, but it doesn't give you the right to try to force everyone to agree with you. An attitude like that caused things like the Spanish Inquisition and the Witch Hunts of early modern Europe, which if you had an ounce of sympathy, you would see were horrible things.
My excuse? I don't appreciate seeing people shoving beliefs down other people's throats. It's improper and rude.
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Let's destroy your argument in order.
1. Not being a legitimate excuse for anything? So please tell me what I was supposed to do when my Uncle was murdered? He was a second father to me with my real dad working over seas at weeks at a time, leaving my uncle to care for me. He was murdered cold blood, and I almost lost it. It's only because I kept praying to God that I didn't loss my mind. AS a side note, I didn't become religious until my teen years, I wasn't raised to "throw this down your throat" as you so think I do.
2. True, religion in the past has caused war. Not going to try and justify horrors like the Crusades. But those were centuries ago. Now, the church is LITERALLY a safe haven from war, with many churches throughout Germany being safe-houses for the Jews in the midst of the Holocaust. But if you want to be the guy to live so far in the past that not even your great-grandparents were alive, that's fine with me, I just tend to forgive, or ask for forgiveness, then move on with life.
3. I need to know when I said the Salem Witch Trials were a good thing. I don't remember ever saying that it was a good thing, or even mentioning them for that matter. Heck, if I recall correctly, YOU'RE the one who came here and started throwing punches. I didn't note you, message you, or even think about you until you started to say I was a "bible-thumper" which also perplexes me.
4. Good excuse, people who go around throwing ideas down my throat would hurt, and I'd probably get a bit pissy at them to. So why were you here again?
5. Not one of your arguments, but how does the abuse of sex also relate to religion? I just get a little sick when my friends, yes MY friends, talk about a girl they laid over the weekend, but can't even remember her name. It kind of perplexes me that that's a good thing. One thing I WAS raised to think was that sex was the most pure and honest showing of affections between two people, I hesitate with man and woman because you'd probably freak out then too. So for it to become so casual isn't something I'm very happy with. How did I show this? I made a stamp, and apparently there's a hidden message in it that I can't even see, because people are taking it as me requiring marriage for sex. Really, I just want it to be out of love, not lust.
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I do not need to hear your life story. Keep that to yourself as you will get no sympathy from me.
You were the one that brought religion into this, sweetheart, not me. I don't understand WHY it came up or any of that, but I saw you using it. If you hadn't tried to use it to start an argument with someone else who just so happened to disagree with you over some minor little issue that you made a stamp about, perhaps I likely wouldn't have said anything.
Also, not everyone is going to agree with your views on sex. Understand that, accept that, and don't lash out like a maniac at everyone that disagrees with you.
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Alright, but it'll pretty hard to explain why I'm Catholic without it. It would be like asking you to tell me why you're here without saying anything about your dislike for my own beliefs.
If I do recall, that was because she flipped when I said to wait until marriage, and I was forced to explain that I meant under the eyes of God, not a government, which then brought her to twist my words around until she thought, you think apparently, that I'm pushing values on you.
Also, how sad is your life that you spend your free time roaming the internet for people to mock? I didn't do anything to you, but here you are saying I was forcing something on you. You'll have to send me a postcard from denial.
True, true, screaming someone's wrong isn't nearly as productive as, let's say, calling their belief system a fraud, wouldn't you agree?
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How sad is YOUR life that comments on a little meaningless stamp rile you up so much? I saw how you basically flipped out at anyone that wants to fuck before marriage and couldn't resist.
For your information, I actually will probably end up waiting until marriage before I screw someone, so in a sense, I agree with you. I just think that people will do as people do and you taking everything out of proportion isn't really going to change their mind, is it?
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Well, seeing as it's my stamp, and people are challenging me about my ideals on it, I have the right to defend myself. Riled? Really? You must take my sarcasm at a very odd level to think I'm raging over here. If anything, I'm laughing.
No, I probably won't be able to change their mind, cause I'm only a man with words and ideas, no strength behind them. But at least they know where I stand.
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It's hard to tell sarcasm over the internet. Some people really are that ridiculous. You do have a right to defend yourself if you feel as if someone is threatening you indeed, but as I said before, people have opinions, and they will still be there.
And you know where they stand. It's better to just agree to disagree I suppose.
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True, we can give each other that. No matter how many times we have this conversation back and forth, I'll stay where I stand, and you will stay where you do.
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Take my argument out of context will you? Have you not yet caught on that I pretty much agree with your stamp yet? I just disagree with your methods of defending it. Also, I don't believe that we're arguing, as that would mean that we disagree over your basic premise, which, once again, I do not.
Since you're religious and all, would you consider masturbation an "abuse" of sex?
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But... But I just agreed with you... What are you arguing about?
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Really? It seemed as if you were trying to be a smartass...but I might be overthinking things because I have a terrible headache and don't feel very well.
But yeah, like I said, I agree with you for the most part.
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Try Tylenol, in dead seriousness, it helps my headaches after studying for a huge exam.
But yeah, glad to see we finally hit middle ground.
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The problem is the 4 hour wait before you can take more...urgh.
I agree.
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I get annoyed of these TV shows that deal with nothing else. It's so stupid.
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From my marketing class, apparently, that's ALL they focus on...
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That's so annoying, but true...
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I agree 100% with this. Actually, the Bible tells us that intercourse isn't supposed to be carried out BEFORE marriage, so basically in today's society tons of people are blatantly violating a clear biblical rule!
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No offense, but The Bible also tells us not to cut facial hair or disobey parents, but you wouldn't want to stop people from shaving or going to art school instead of medical school just because thats what their parents want, right? I'm not being anti-Christan, just pointing out that times change. I, for one, will have been an adult with my future husband for almost 9 years before we can marry (because certain finical aid is taken away for college if you're married) and have been with him for 11 years. I'm not going to live with my parents until I'm 30 and deprive myself of spending my life with him. We live together, we sleep together, and I'm not ashamed of that because an outdated book tells me to be.
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Uh... that's the Qaran, not the bible...
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Its very possibly the Quran has the same or a similar rule, but as a pervious devote Christian who has read the Bible times over, I can assure you it is in the Bible, also. If it wasn't I could cite you some other silliness.
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Oh I recognize some of the silliness in there, don't get me wrong, I just never read that, and I have read it several times myself.
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I'll have to go back and check, just in case. You could be right, but I was almost sure
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Meh, there are weirder rules, like not wearing clothing that's made up of more than two colors.
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I actually didn't think of that one! Ha, thats a good one.
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Some people like me choose to be married at heart rather then giving are money to the government just to be "legally" together.
It's all the same, dude.
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Not everyone is a Christian either and thus don't have to follow your book's rules.
Also you're not following Biblical code if you eat shellfish, buddy.
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Shellfish is part of the Law of Moses which was annulled when Christ came to the earth. So no, that doesn't mean they're disobeying the Bible if they're not eating shellfish.
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And in the same passages it says homosexuality is an abomination. Why pick one part of that passage over the over?
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Christ didn't replace the Law of Moses, He modified it with his own law. Some stuff was preserved whereas other stuff was thrown out.
Christ's "Higher Law" gives the individual more room in deciding what is sin and what isn't, but Christ made it pretty clear when He said that even looking after someone and thinking bad thoughts is considered sin. I don't see why Christ would revoke a law that is fundamental (procreation) to assisting His children (us) coming down here to earth, either.
Besides, few religions base the entirety of their worship solely on the Bible. There are popes, bishops, and other holy writings that religions believe in that also interpret SSA (same sex attraction) as being incorrect in the eyes of God.
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So I guess God hates people who are infertile. What a benevolent being.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said -.- /sarcasm.
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It is. He hates homosexuals for not being able to make babies. What's the difference?
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Woah why so much hate for us who have a testament of christ? Just because I dont believe in homosexuality dosnt mean theres hate towards them. God loves all his children.
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Why? Because you're all a bunch of hypocrites. You preach about love and acceptance and you people are anything but. You do hate homosexuals if you are in favor of discriminating against them. Discrimination is hate.
No, my family gave me everything I own. Your God didn't do shit.
I'll respect you people when you stop treating me like a subhuman being. Respect is earned and you have done nothing at all to earn my respect.
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How can you classify all of us in one category? Im an individual with my beliefs. I have never hated a person and I defiantly do not think less of you. You dont know who I am so you can not judge me. Trust me I know how it feels to be discriminated against. It hurts and you lose a lot of friends that way. Pleas know that I certainly dont think your lesser in any way. I know you are (dont make fun of this because this is really spiritual to me) a child of god. You are divine and your spirit is a beautiful creation. Yes I know there are christians who make fun of those with out there beliefs, but do not judge me for I am my own person.
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I'm not a child of god. :/ There's no such thing and the more you try to push it on more, the less I think of you and your religion. I know there are good people who are Christians but most of you are not. You guys are the reason why there are no anti-discrimination laws protecting homosexuals in my state. You're the reason why if I were dying in the hospital, my girlfriend wouldn't be allowed to see me because she isn't in my immediate family or married to me. Everyone faces discrimination in their lives but a so-called free country should not allow shit like this to happen, but it does. EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. And you expect me to RESPECT you and your beliefs?
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Well I could ask my ancestors who were tarred and feathered how they feel about discrimination. Or how we were forced out of homes and had to walk thousands of miles across the country so we could keep our religion mean while people were shooting us down. Or how Im pushed around at school and mistreated and abused by people like you who see one person who believes in my beliefs do something wrong and blame me. I have been nothing but kind to you. You dont even know me yet you discriminate me. How can I take you seriously when your a hypocrite? If you dont like where you live move here because here no one is discriminated except people like me. Yes I may not believe in what your doing but Im not telling you to stop. Im not calling your names or saying offensive things to you. What? So its ok to make fun of me but its not ok to make fun of you? Fine. Say all you want to me Im used to it. But it wont change my opinion. I believe in god and in his son and the holy ghost. I believe there is a greater purpose in this life and nothing you can say can make me ever take back my beliefs.
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Bawwww poor Christian ancestors. Why don't you go research the Crusades and a bunch of other crap that you guys did during the middle ages.
Oh yeah getting bullied for being a bigot is a fucking crime. It's so hard not to hate.
Oh wow and how am I discriminating against you? I'm not taking your rights away. You're allowed to go to work without the fear of being fired because of your sexual orientation. You'll never have to worry about not being able to see your partner for the last minutes of his life because the hospital refused to allow you to see him.
Uhhh aren't you telling us to stop by saying we can't get married?
When did I say you couldn't make fun of me? Go ahead.
Fine and there's nothing you can do to make me believe in that shit either.
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For your information Im not just christian. Im LDS or mormon. And you are discriminating me if you can go and tell me my beliefs arnt true. And you know what...Im not here to fight with you. So go ahead cuss at the high school student. Your a hero now.
And how am I taking your rights away? Im not doing a thing to you! Did I vote, no. Im just trying to live life the best way possible for me. If your happy great. But to me you seem unhappy if your going to argue with a teenage girl about this.
Im not trying to make you believe. I believe because I want to. Its a choice. I choose to live this way. Im sorry about all that has happened to you. People shouldnt make fun of someone no matter what the situation. Look, yes we believe in total oposite things. But cant we get along? Put aside your hurt and see me as a person?
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You're not here to fight, yet you replied to me first. You're the one who initiated contact so stop acting like I attacked you.
That isn't discrimination. You need to look up what discrimination actually means. If you're in high school you should know the definition and don't use your age as an excuse either. You're practically an adult and I doubt that you're that much younger than me anyway.
But you don't see anything wrong with the way me and every other bisexual, homosexual or transexual person is being treated, do you? :/
Then believe if it makes you happy. Let other people live their lives the way they want to without your religion interfering in it. As long as you aren't hurting other people then do what you want. Just allow us the same freedoms. Why do you even want to get along with me? I'm not exactly interested in being your friend.
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I dont like contention. I would rather get along and it was more of a peace offering. And I was just replying to the conversation in general. And I do think its wrong how your treated. No one should be treated like that. Its not to bad here where I live though so I dont see much of it every day. My school even started a gay/straight alliance club.
You dont have to be my friend besides that would be weird since I dont know you at all. I just want you to see that not every christian or lds person is going to discriminate you. That certainly wasnt my aim when I wrote the comment in the first place. I meant no harm I was just voicing my opinion.
And Im not trying to interfere with your way of living. And I cant change the law for you but I can be kind to you. Im sorry if I have said some things that have offended you. I get a bit touchy when it comes to my beliefs. I meant no harm. Im sorry if people with my same beliefs have hurt you but they are not me. It wouldnt be fair if i blamed you for something some one did to me who shared your beliefs. Because I dont even though its happened before. Your not them.
So why cant we get along? Why must we let others influence the way we treat people?
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Well it's completely different here in the southern US. My school never had clubs like that and same sex couples couldn't even go to prom together because it might offend "normal" people. :/
I'm sorry for jumping down your throat but it seemed like you were attacking me. I don't appreciate people saying stuff like "God loves you even if you don't believe in him" because I honestly don't and I could sit here all day and list the reasons why. I don't think you guys would like it if a Muslim person said that you're a child of Allah and he loves you more than Jesus does.
Obviously I'm touchy about mine. I'm sick of all of the abuse and discrimination people have to deal with because of their orientation. I just don't understand how in 2011 society still finds it okay to do this. All my life when I was growing up I was told that there's no such thing as discrimination in this country because it's illegal and everyone was equal. What a fucking lie.
I suppose we could if you aren't here to preach to me anymore.
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I didnt mean to preach i just always do that. Sorry about that. And isnt Allah the same as God? I have done a lot of research about religion and Muslims are very similar to christians except they dont believe in christ.
Im sorry about the abuse that people have done to you. No one should be treated badly. No one. We should all accept each other even if we dont believe in the same things.
Yeah theres a lot of messed up things about the world today. Its in no way perfect. And not to mention we are girls so we even have less rights.
So yeah no hard feelings?
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I think they're the same, but I'm pretty sure Muslims don't think yours is the same as theirs.
Yeah, women have it pretty bad in this world. Basically if you're not a white heterosexual Christian male, you're less than human in our society.
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