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Rather simple compared to my other stamps, but this one has a message.It was request by my AmorissimΓͺ Puella, but this is a message we both agree on. Sex has become the equivalent to daily walks or conversations. People treat it as if it's nothing more than another outlet of for pleasure.
True, but it's so much more than that. It's a union of body and soul between two people, and act that can create new life. Something so sacred that some people (ME!) wait until marriage just to do it!
Seriously, there is a limit.
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Yeah. In history class we were told women are paid 85 cents to the dolar a man is paid. And when my teacher said that I look over and this guy is chewing on his binder and my sister turns to me and says "I get paid less than that guy!"
But you know what life is good. Life is good.
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That bothers me. Places like Walmart are especially bad to work at because they pay women who work there less on purpose because the men need to provide for their families. So do single moms, guys. :/
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I know! And even though I plan to be a stay at home mom because I find thats what me as a person needs to do with my life, I am still going to go to collage and get an education so I can work if need to.
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I would think so, but I guess they assume that every woman has someone to help her provide for her kids.
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Yeah I guess thats true. I dont know ever since I was little I have always been a feminist. I had some bad experiences with boys when I was younger and it took me a while to trust them again, it took my boyfriend to make me feel comfortable around them again. I found out that theres good in all people.
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Men have hurt me a lot in my life too but I don't hate them either. I used to get picked on a lot by boys in school XD
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Oh high school boys. They have so much to learn.
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Hates?? I don't think God hates...
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His followers sure do and if you ever bothered to read the Bible you'd see what a hateful monster he is.
You still didn't answer my question. Why does he frown on homosexuals and not infertile people if he dislikes the fact that they don't make babies? Why is an all powerful God that is supposedly in control of the entire universe so concerned with people's bedroom activities anyway? You'd think he'd have more important things to worry about, but then again the Bible was written by man. lol
Even if the crap in the Bible IS true, what right do YOU have to force your idea of morality into law and make others live by your moral standards? I detest Sonic the Hedgehog, so if I made up a religion where it was banned I could try and have that put into law too. 
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Funny, I'm a follower of Christ and don't hate you.
I don't believe in deism.
Same sex attraction affects people; especially since the individual has parents that more often than not probably didn't raise them to become homosexual. And how about the homosexual person themself? It's been documented that homosexuals are more likely to be involved in drug abuse, depression, suicide etc. Doesn't sound like a very happy lifestyle to me.
And here's the catch: you're saying I'm forcing people to live by my morals, when you're the one that came to this stamp to voice your opinion that people should live by yours. And you're still yet "forcing" others to live by your morals (don't believe in God, accept same sex attraction etc.). So in a way, what you're saying is hypocritical. =l
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Wow I have been gay for about 6 years no And I am in the time of my life where I am the happiest 
Homosexuals teens in America are ten times more as likely to get into drugs and suicide in America yes but they are also ten times more likely to get kicked out of the house for being gay.
Wow maybe there is a connection! I would be depressed and even suicidal if that would happen to me you know.
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Again, that's just anecdotal evidence. Most gay people are not happy with their life as research has so copiously shown.
Where's the research that says gay teens in America are ten times more likely to kill themselves and ten times more likely to get kicked out of the house?
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I showed you in that other comment
trough ten times was a bit to much
gay teens are five times more likely to get kicked out of the house for being gay and four times morel ikely to commit suicide.
Again yyoogoo you are talking to a happy gay person here you can't deny the fact that it's possible to be gay and in same sex relationship that is happy. If you do then you are delusional and need help.
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Yeah I am sorry I exist to debunk you're myth.
I wish you would visit me I could show you all of my gay friends and how happy lives were living.
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The debate can be educational.
But statistically-speaking, most gay people are not happy. I could do the same with you and show you all my gay friends who aren't happy.
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and statistically-speaking it has been linked with family rejection of the homosexuality of the person and open hostile discrimination.
Why do you think homosexual suicide and WOMAN suicide is so high in countries where woman and gay people are openly discriminated and have less rights then men? Do you honestly think it's because those women did it because they happened to be female? No discrimination plays a huge part in it.
Maybe your gay friends are messed up and I hope they are doing better but you aren't doing them any good by repeating that you think they won't be happy if they stay gay forever.
Because all of it leads to std drug abuse ect
if that was the case then Elen, Patrick Stuart, Ian Mckelen Elton John David High Prince famous gay people would all be dead by now. But that's far from the case.
STRAIGHT people like Charlie Sheen show promiscuity and drug abuse behavior but I am sure his straightness has NOTHHINGGG to do with it right? If he was gay then it must be his sexual preference !
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STDs kill slowly. You'll learn that one day.
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in Africa std's are common in heterosexual couples. Dear God.
Again std's are pretty low to lesbian couples, straight couples are more likely to get it then lesbian ones.
Also that's disgusting really really disgusting implying I am going to get an std simply for being gay, hell I have been gay for 6 years, my uncle for 16, several married gay people have been together longer then they were married. Patrick Stuard David High prince ect all famous gay people that have been out the closet for years yet no death/std!
You call you're self a Christian yet make that judgment. disgusting . You give Christians a bad name. Juding is sin just as being gay so you're in noo waay better then me.
I tell you this because I am sure your not going to take the time to look at those studies by PROFESSIONALS that I showed you. Because you don't care about evidence.
If being gay is an environment issue then how come lesbians come out in African tribes where they don't even know what homosexual means? How come gays appear in Extreme SHARIA law countries where it's taught that being gay means you are a horrible person that needs to die. How come ALL gay people come from straight parents? How come a large amount of gay people are from Christian families ? despite the fact they all have heterosexual siblings ? It doesn't add up does it.
I come from a traditional family, I visited church my father works, and my mother is a homemaker. My brother is straight so is the rest of my family with the exception of my uncle who has been with his partner for over 16 years.
Yet I didn't turn straight.
Tel you this because you love to imply depression drugs abuse alcoholism are all linked to being gay. THe majority of people that suffer from those thins are HETEROSEXUAL. Yet no one links their sexuality with those paterns. Most sexual abuse/domestic violence happens in a men-wife family. Are you going to judge all straight people for their sexuality playing a factor? No and neither should you do with gay people. Because it's wrong.
this is a fact
With so many exceptions of happy gay families, gay couples in the news and celebrity ( my own friends, those families those organization studied which I all linked ect ) already debunk the fact that somehow being gay means you will turn to drugs/beer ect. Because why would being gay work for some people and not for others?
Because you have to look at them individual. Not all straight people are the same neither are all gay people the same. If a happy married gay couple for 10 years and have been together for 25 years exist you can't claim that homosexuality is a cause for something negative. Because there to many gay people that disprove you otherwise.
Also long term happiness?
You do understand divorce rates are pretty high right ? even among CHRISTIAN families are very high. So by you're argument people should discourage that to people to because hey there is a risk of not having a long term happiness.
You can't predict the future. You can only predict a relationship maybe if you know the two persons as well but if you don't then you are making a huge judgment. Which again I have to point out is a sin in your book.
The divorce rate is highest among straight couples, among religious couples Jewish and Christian families
I am not even going to bother reading you're comments because you seem pretty hateful and I hint a sense of insecurity in you. I really hope you will get some help and learn to not JUDGE people. Now that you know a lot of gay people in studies and online that aren't what you think they are.
You assume I don't have safe sex or will get std simply for being gay. That is pretty low and it also seems you HOPE that I will get it one die. Serious if you're child ever comes out of he closet send him her to me because you would only do her harm with such comments.
You should stop telling people to abuse sex when you abuse morality and love for your own means. If you really care about stopping the high rate suicide among gay teens and drug abuse among gay people. You would stop contributing to the problem and judging them. There is nothing wrong with seeing gay as a sin or being against gay marriage but that doesn't excuse you from treating homosexuals as if they are sick and need of help when you are talking to one that is trying to open your eyes and wake you up that if anything that kind of help is making it much worse.
But something tells me you won't do it. :/ I just hope you do to better yourself and to help your fellow man.
Despite this I will not change or be intolerant of Christians even trough I have had many nasty and sometimes dangerous experiences with them. I will judge people by their actions, and will treat everyone as a separated case because that's what they all are and I hope you do the same.
To quote a doctor:
Tell a person he is sick when he is not and he won't believe you cause his body is healthy. Tell this person he is sick everyday for one year and he will believe it. It's how the human mind works.
Have a nice day.
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Also for the record:
Misleading Vividness is a fallacy in which a very small number of particularly dramatic events are taken to outweigh a significant amount of statistical evidence. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:
1. Dramatic or vivid event X occurs (and is not in accord with the majority of the statistical evidence) .
2. Therefore events of type X are likely to occur.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because the mere fact that an event is particularly vivid or dramatic does not make the event more likely to occur, especially in the face of significant statistical evidence.
People often accept this sort of "reasoning" because particularly vivid or dramatic cases tend to make a very strong impression on the human mind. For example, if a person survives a particularly awful plane crash, he might be inclined to believe that air travel is more dangerous than other forms of travel. After all, explosions and people dying around him will have a more significant impact on his mind than will the rather dull statistics that a person is more likely to be struck by lightning than killed in a plane crash.
Source: [link]
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Funny, you can't have discrimination without hatred.
You can't raise a child to be homosexual or heterosexual. You can't condition a child to make them fall in love with whoever you want them to. You cannot force someone to be a different sexuality.
"It's been documented that homosexuals are more likely to be involved in drug abuse, depression, suicide etc. Doesn't sound like a very happy lifestyle to me."
WOW. JUST WOW. No, it isn't very easy dealing with the fact that people discriminate against you based on who you love. It's hard to live life and face the world each day wondering whether or not someone may even try to kill you because of what sexuality you are. Homosexuals wouldn't be committing suicide or be depressed if it weren't for people like you in this world.
Oh I never said don't believe in God. I said that you have no right to dictate whether or not my girlfriend and I should be allowed to sign a paper that entitles us to the same benefits as heterosexuals.
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You can totally raise a child to be homosexual or heterosexual. In fact there is a great deal of current research on same sex attraction that points to same sex attraction as being a developmental disorder. And moreover, therapy for changing sexual orientation is as successful as any other psychotherapy (success rates of 30-70%). So it usually can be changed.
"No, it isn't very easy dealing with the fact that people discriminate against you based on who you love. It's hard to live life and face the world each day wondering whether or not someone may even try to kill you because of what sexuality you are. Homosexuals wouldn't be committing suicide or be depressed if it weren't for people like you in this world."
Not so. That's just a weak correlation. Not causation. Did you know that homosexuals in areas of the world where homosexuality is much more accepted like the Netherlands, New Zealand etc. depression, drug abuse etc. is just as bad? It's not because of "people like me." Just to give you an example, here's a study indicating that suicide rates are not because of social factors as you indicated, but might actually be a cause of homosexuality itself: [link]
And I certainly do have the right to say if homosexuals can have the same benefits. It's called voting.
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I require unbiased proof of that bullshit.
Um, no you don't. Neither you nor the government should have control over such things. lol Then again that's exactly what racists said during the civil rights movement.
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Unbiased proof? How about you do the same with your side of the issue? Not gonna happen; everyone is biased, ESPECIALLY concerning the topic we're discussing.
You're going to deny me my right to vote, huh? Good luck with that one. Also, saying that the government shouldn't have control is a very republican thing to say! And skin color has nothing to do with sexual orientation, especially since no conclusive evidence has been found that demonstrates homosexuality is an inborn trait.
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I'm biased towards human rights. I think we all deserve the same rights as freedoms as everyone else because we are all HUMAN.
I'm not taking away your right to vote. I'm saying that the government shouldn't have control in our personal lives. What business is it of yours who I have sex with? I don't think you'd take too kindly to me telling you who you can have sex with, as long as it's a consenting adult I don't see why it should matter. What I do in my bedroom does NOT affect you in the slightest.
Prove that it isn't an inborn trait. Do you chose to be heterosexual?
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It does affect me. It's statistically proven that those involved in a homosexual lifestyle are more likely to contract many STDs that otherwise wouldn't occur in a heterosexual relationship (not to mention that homosexuals are much more promiscuous), in part because the human body wasn't designed for homosexual behavior. Aand that affects how much we taxpayers have to pay for healthcare, psychological work, etc. Our taxes would also have to be allocated to same gender couples if they were allowed benefits. Yes, it affects everyone. And I already mentioned how it affects the families themselves.
Why should I have to prove that it isn't an inborn trait? The burden of proof is on your side and you have to prove that it's inborn. Essentially you're saying, "You cannot prove that homosexuality is not inborn, so it must be inborn." That's illogical.
And for the choosing thing, again, same sex attraction is a developmental disorder, hence why many feel that they never "chose" to be gay. They were in an environment that caused them to feel that way. And it can be reversed.
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straight black woman are the highest group in risk of Aids and std'after gay men,
Lesbian woman rank much lower.*
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Lesbians are the group of the most low risking when it comes to std's yes Homosexual men are know to switch sexual partners more but after homosexual men Heterosexual black woman
hey were in an environment that caused them to feel that way. And it can be reversed.
Homosexuals come from everywhere from Japan to Canada to Italy to African tribes and to countries in the Middle east where you can get killed for being gay. If being gay is en environment issue how come so many homosexuals come from different cultures and countries
A week ago my country the Netherlands celebrated it's 10th year anniversary of gay marriage being legal 3gay families were interviewed all of the children ( who are older then 15 and 20 ) are all heterosexual and doing fine only one daughter complained 1 thing that bugs her being in a gay fammily you want to know what that is?
homophobcs insulting her parents for being gay. She feels has to defend herself when people keep assuming she must be sick for being raised by two mothers. Even trough she has a boyfriend goes to school and has a job.
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I agree, the environment can be reversed so we don't end up with people thinking they are gay.
That's just three families. More legitimate research says that the children have a higher proclivity to homosexual lifestyles than their peers from heterosexual parents. Source: [link]
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I am sorry but that website doesn't look creible to me it just calls homosexuakity a mental disorder without really saying why
So those 3 families don't count? i like how you ignored the fact that the the 21 year old woman said her only problem was people like YOU that make problems of her being a child of gay parents
[link]
Scientific research has been consistent in showing that lesbian and gay parents are as fit and capable as heterosexual parents, and their children are as psychologically healthy and well-adjusted as children reared by heterosexual parents.[6][7][8] Major associations of mental health professionals in the U.S., Canada, and Australia have not identified credible empirical research that suggests otherwis
These are studies and articles based on a 25/31 year old research
I agree, the environment can be reversed so we don't end up with people thinking they are gay.
are you stupid? what are you talking about? gay people come from all sort of environments!
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What I provided is not a website, it's a piece of research published by professors with PhD's in psychology. Other professionals have also reviewed the journal to make sure it is in-line with current research and not bogus.
I'm sorry but wikipedia is one of the worst sources you can use in an argument like this. Anyone can edit it, and it's hugely liberal/political on wikipedia. Real research tries to avoid these biases.
Just for example: "Major associations of mental health professionals in the U.S., Canada, and Australia have not identified credible empirical research that suggests otherwise "
That's a big fat opinion.
Oookay, calling me stupid isn't going to get this anywhere. And wow, did I ever call you stupid? Geez, calm down.
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Oh yeah debunk wikipedia because it it's not like it shows the sources the names of the organizations
or some thing like that contact the
he American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,[ the American Psychiatric Association,[25] the American Psychological Association,] the American Psychoanalytic Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the Child Welfare League of America.
They give out articles and researched this. If you are not afraid of the truth contact these and ask for information on gay parenting and the sexuality of gay parents. I wish you good luck.
Plus the site looks bogus and those other links I showed you ALSO were quited by professionals. Anyway contact these legal organizations. All of them studies gay families for 20/30 years.
Yeah I am sorry you are kind of stupid if you think environment is the most important factor to why someone is gay. Gay people come from everywhere
I am from a straight family so is my girlfriend. My brother is straight but I am not.
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I never said anything about the government being responsible for people being gay.
Sorry, if you're going to call me stupid and use wikipedia as a legit source, then I'm done talking with you for now.
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Wow, calling me a hateful bigot and then blocking me? You haven't even responded to half my arguments I've presented with legitimate evidence. All you've provided is your opinion with zero evidence.
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I can provide them! First I have been a lesbian for about 6 years together with my girlfriend in a relationship so long I don't drink or use drugs. My lesbian classmate doesn't do drugs either. I don't know if she drinks I never asked her. My other lesbian friend doesn't do drugs either and only drinks during parties. Not COUNTING my online gay friends.
All of us are std free.
for the evidence why is alcohol abuse so high in homosexuals in America? well it has been linked because they fear rejection and gay/lesbians do not find help because they are often rejected by council meetings for their sexuality it's one of the main reasons why gays will find comfort to go to hardcore gay parties and drink more because they feel safe there.
Also lots of homosexuals drink in order to deny and forget their homosexual feelings
[link]
Homophobic attitudes (negative bias) among counselors and other treatment providers are the most common reason cited among gays and lesbians for not seeking help.
In a society that has variously regarded homosexual behavior as immoral, pathological, deviant, and/or criminal it is easy to understand the reluctance to openly identify and live a gay or lesbian lifestyle. Cabaj (1999) and Bobbe (2000) suggest that the stresses associated with accepting oneself as gay plays a key role in the development of alcoholism. The suggestion that there exists gay specific reasons for alcohol abuse implies that gay specific treatment programs might also be in order. However , such programs are few and far between. Accessibility to gay specific programs is the first challenge gays and lesbians must overcome.
Homosexual and drugs play the same sort of story
Homophobia, discrimination and victimization are largely what are responsible for these substance use disparities in young gay people,β Marshal said in a March 25, 2008 press release that was posted on the Addiction website. βHistory shows that when marginalized groups are oppressed and do not have equal opportunities and equal rights, they suffer. Our results show that gay youth are clearly no exception.β
[link]
Now onto the gays and suicide!
[link]
r a number of years, researchers have known that one-third of all teenagers who commit suicide are gay. In one sense, this statistic is incredibly shocking because, according to the Kinsey Report, gay teens only comprise one-tenth of the teen population. This means that they are 300 percent more likely to kill themselves than heterosexual youth. In another sense, it is predictable that gay teens kill themselves more often than other young people simply because their life chances are so limited by social and legal discrimination
An example of such social discrimination can be explained that they are more likely to be assaulted or bullied for being gay but also for family rejection
[link]
[link]
For the first time, research has established a predictive link between specific, negative family reactions to their childβs sexual orientation and serious health problems for these adolescents in young adulthood such as depression, illegal drug use, risk for HIV infection, and suicide attempts,β
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here are some more studies on the same issues and regarding suicide.
[link]
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and now on to debunk some myth's
all homosexuals are most likely to get std's ?
[link]
Generally lesbians are at low risk of HIV infection.
look at the list of where gay woman needs to be more careful of see how most of them have to do with previous heterosexual contact rather then woman to woman contact.
While is's true that std's and hiv are very high for gay men it's mostly because they switch partners and have unsafe sex. I think this is an issue that needs to be talked about in the gay men community. However to blame the orienation for it in stead of these man's own actions is kind of foolish considering hiv/std's are very high for heterosexual black woman to. By that argument we should blame their heterosexuality for doing this? no that would be absurd
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Then how do you respond to the similar rates of drug abuse/suicide rates in the Netherlands and New Zealand among homosexuals? If societal pressure were the case, then those regions wouldn't have such high drug abuse/suicide rates among homosexuals in contrast to heterosexuals (Source: [link] ). This indicates that society isn't to blame exclusively for the problems, but possibly the homosexual nature itself. It might even be more complex in that depression causes one to pursue a homosexual lifestyle and then subsequently the individual commits suicide, for example. But then the causal arrow is pointed at society for causing the suicide when it really could have simply been the depression. And you somewhat mentioned it yourself, that there are pre-existing problems and the homosexual lifestyle is a way of coping, simply: "For the first time, research has established a predictive link between specific, negative family reactions to their childβs sexual orientation and serious health problems for these adolescents in young adulthood such as depression, illegal drug use, risk for HIV infection, and suicide attempts"
The problem with the "black women" argument is, according to what you've presented, it's a VERY narrow group of people according to the one study. I'm talking globally that STDs are more prevalent in homosexual relationships. And the other source you cited is a book by an author of dubious credibility (is the author a psychologist? Has a PhD?). In any case, both sets of people (black women and homosexuals) have high rates of STDs.
While I appreciate your sources, many of them are secondary, with some kind of interpretation made by nonprofessionals on research. Some are simply news articles of anecdotal evidence (which isn't sufficient to prove anything--really it's just as something of interest). Some of the research itself that you linked was just based on small samples of case studies that are, again, interesting, but don't really mean much statistically-speaking. One problem I have when discussing this topic is how emotionally-charged it is, and often people will throw a bunch of anecdotal evidence and personal experience that doesn't really mean much in the big picture. But then again, it does explain why some people are so biased for or against same sex attraction. And I do definitely feel sorry for those that have had to feel the suffering of either being involved with it themselves, or know someone that is close and struggling with it. I really do want to help these people. But I don't think that a homosexual lifestyle is a sustainable lifestyle if one chooses to pursue long-lasting happiness. I don't force it on people, but I do make myself clear when it comes up.
Even aside from STD's, there is also physical damage that can be inflicted in the way many gay people have sex, primarily anal intercourse. The rectum is much more fragile than a vagina and more prone to tear from object insertion, including penile penetration. I'm also heavily referring to homosexual men when I talk about STDs. And again, the way they have sex more often than not puts them at a higher risk for contracting STDs. One example: anal intercouse...the ejaculate is immunosuppressive which means it can damage the immune system of the recipient when deposited in the rectum.
Lesbians are at a lower risk of HIV infection than homosexual men, but still at a higher risk for HIV infection over heterosexual couples. The health consequences of lesbianism are less well documented than for male homosexuals partly because the devastation of AIDS has caused male homosexuality to draw the lion's share of medical attention. But it is also because there are fewer lesbians than gay men, and there is no evidence that lesbians practice the same extremes of same-sex promiscuity of gay men. The lesser amount of medical attention does not mean, however, that female sexual behavior is without recognized pathology.
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In manny parts in the NETHERLANDS and New Sealand there is still very strong discrimination towards gay people just look up gay beatings in Amsterdam.
men and woman also have but sex just saying bot all gay men ahve the same sex as other gay men
Lesbians are at a lower risk of HIV infection than homosexual men, but still at a higher risk for HIV infection over heterosexual couples. T
No they are not I showed you black woman in straight relationships are morel ikely to get HIv there the biggest group next to gay men,
While I appreciate your sources, many of them are secondary, with some kind of interpretation made by nonprofessionals on research.
No they were not they were done by professionals who examined gay people for over 20 years just because they are tellig you the truth that you don't like doesn't mean it's not true.
And I do definitely feel sorry for those that have had to feel the suffering of either being involved with it themselves, or know someone that is close and struggling with it. I really do want to help these people. But I don't think that a homosexual lifestyle is a sustainable lifestyle if one chooses to pursue long-lasting happiness. I don't force it on people, but I do make myself clear when it comes up.
Then you are still part of the problem. I am a homosexual in a same sex relationship I am happy but if people like you tell me everyday that I am not happy, that I am a deviant that I only lust not love that I am sick that I need to be straight that I need to end my loving relationship to be happy every day.
Ofcourse then I will turn depressed and this is what gay people face over the whole world. Are you really surprised gay people are so depressed when you make such a bigot judgment? you don't even know me and yet you tell me what I need to do to be happy. Don't you even know how offensive that is? and how you are contributing to that problem?
Look you're free to disagree with homosexuals and how they live but once you spout of nonsense to demonic them and their relationships even trough you don't even know them then you are in the wrong. That's what I call a self proclaimed sickness.
If people tell gays they are sick, monsters, deviant, that need to change
those gays will become depressed and go use drugs or in some cases commit suicide
then those same homohobics are going
OH YOU SEE HE COMMITED SUICIDE because he was gay!
despite the fact there the ones who caused it in the fist place.
I live in a very good part in Netherlands but I heard some horror stories of gay couples being beating up or bullied out of vilage it happens here to.
Fact is lesbians still low very low in std's and hiv straight woman have higher rates.
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"No they are not I showed you black woman in straight relationships are morel ikely to get HIv there the biggest group next to gay men (sic)"
That's definitely a red herring. I never said anything about black women in the context of lesbians and gay men pertaining to STD rates.
I never said you weren't happy. I just said that I don't believe that's going to lead to long-lasting happiness. History is another great indicator of how long same-sex relationships last. You can be an exception if you want, but it's not typically the case.
Even though I don't know them? Now you're just making assumptions. Why do you think I care so much about this? I have friends that are struggling BIG TIME with this issue. And honestly, you're blaming others too much for the gays that commit suicide. Have you ever thought that maybe they're doing it because they're legitimately depressed, NOT because of the "terrible society that derides" them? And when did I call gays "monsters, deviant" etc.? Your own biases are making me seem like some terrible person when I'm simply voicing my opinion.
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History is another great indicator of how long same-sex relationships last.
My relationship has lasted more then the relationships between all my straight friends :lol; jsut so you know.
ou can be an exception if you want, but it's not typically the case.
and that's judging.
Even though I don't know them? Now you're just making assumptions. Why do you think I care so much about this? I have friends that are struggling BIG TIME with this issue.
Yep you don't know know me yet you made judgments on me, you might have friends that strugle of this that doesn't change the fact that you are not judging me,
btw my Uncle is also gay he has been happily together with the same man for about 17 years ( or 15 ) some where along hsoe lines.
Your own biases are making me seem like some terrible person when I'm simply voicing my opinion.
So am I, however there is a differenct between
nd honestly, you're blaming others too much for the gays that commit suicide. Have you ever thought that maybe they're doing it because they're legitimately depressed, NOT because of the "terrible society that derides" them?
holy shit dude I showed you a study that there is a LINk between that in various ways with drug and alcohol abuse. Look up Suicide note from a gay teen and others
you find stories of homosexuals who made suicide attempts.
You're just looking to defend to voice your opnion and defend society way of discriminating gay people.
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Yeah, and you haven't judged me, right? Calling me stupid...
There's a correlation. That's it. If you take any basic psychology class you'll learn that Correlation does not imply causation . Make that part of your thinking. Have you ever thought maybe the correlation goes the other way that drugs, depression etc. cause homosexuality?
I'm not defending the evils done to homosexuals such as murdering, bullying etc. But I am saying that homosexuals are jumping too fast to say that society is the reason they're committing suicide when society isn't the only cause.
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[link] oh yeah also another professional that has studied mental health ect together with another professional that researched and examined children of lesbian parents.
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I am not juding you based on you're own person I am judging you based on your action dude that's normal. You have judged me on the simple fact that I am gay.
I judge you for saying environment plays a big part when gay people comming from everywhere around the world thats not a opinion that's fact. There are gay people in Iran, Italy, Japan ect.
ut I am saying that homosexuals are jumping too fast to say that society is the reason they're committing suicide when society isn't the only cause.
for most homosexuals it is. I am sure it's not for all but to claim it's because it's the sexual preference doesn't make sense. That's just trying to make homosexuality look evil.
Have you ever thought maybe the correlation goes the other way that drugs, depression etc. cause homosexuality?
considering the fact he majority of people that duffer from depression and drugs in the entire globe are heterosexual. Plus again studies found a link between homosexuals finding negative reactions from getting out of the closet and then starting to get these paterns.
Look I don't even do drugs and I was never depressed what Am I the missing link?
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Oh my god, seriously? I'm not even going to bother you with anymore. You are so brainwashed into being a hateful bigot by society that you aren't even worth my time.
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So says the person who uses Stalin's theory for arguments.
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What theory? The only theory I subscribe to is that all people should be equal regardless of what they do in their bedroom.
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Not your beliefs, I'm really careless on what you believe. I meant to your form of argument.
1. Find: You searched for a stamp you don't support and found beliefs you don't agree with.
2. Isolate: You make sure that what I believe in is separate from the mass public's opinion.
3. Attack: Insult my beliefs, bring up every wrong and sin they have, or could, cause.
4. Ignore: Block messages from me and my friend you were arguing with.
It's the basic plan of most Social Parties in terms of public meetings and Q&A. It was first used when promoting Communism in Russia, but was adopted to include Attack and Ignore by Stalin, hence Stalin Theory.
I do my research plenty, it's actually what made me Christian. :smile: You can now proceed to improperly insult me.
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Oh I didn't search for you stamp. I just happened to come across it. Also theists block me all the time, but when I do it to you guys I get called a Communist. If you don't want me to insult you and your religion, then keep your beliefs out of my personal life.
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Agreed.
While I may have some Christian beliefs, I think it's wrong to in-force them through federal law.
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