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Description And once again, Fennekin is the most popular xD
It's really weird playing with new pokemon before the game is out!

Ok this has gotten really popular but I just want to clarify that THIS IS A FANGAME!
These are not screenshots of Pokemon X / Y. It's my own fangame, which is an mmo game (massive multiplayer online). These are screenshots of Route A1 in my fan-made region called Atlas, which has over 200 new pokemon in it. There is no planned release date yet but we're working on it every day and hopefully will release it some time this year.

NOTE: Vermini is not GEN 6! He's in my dex I just wanted to show a battle. He was created by the awesome and full credit goes to him! [link]
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BonzaiRob In reply to ??? [2013-01-12 14:00:17 +0000 UTC]

You can tell a lot about a person by their attitude toward the effort of others. If I were overly judgemental, i'd be saying "you are motivated by jealousy over a skill you don't possess and when you see what you perceive as a weakness in it you pounce". But I didn't say that.

Don't misunderstand; when i say you are a terrible person for this, I'm not saying "your cooking is bad" - the world is not black and white. You're probably quite a good cook. You've probably brought happiness to your family. What I'm saying is you were just fantastically rude to someone and are now trying to defend your rudeness. And that's terrible.

I like how you're now trying to ascribe emotions to me, as if that invalidates my position somehow? If that helps you sleep at night!

There are plenty of ways to express subjective dislike for something without saying "retarded", or thanking providence that it is not an official design. You could say, for instance, "I don't like the worm." Still, neither of those approaches is at all constructive or even -useful- to anyone. So why say it at all?

Calling something retarded, deciding not to say something gently, doesn't make you cool, doesn't make people like you. It makes you a bastard (in your own words!), that people don't like - why would you want to be disliked? You will lose artistic friends that way. Assuming you had any. On the other hand, if you decided to be a constructive critic, you can still tell cold hard truth, but also suggest improvement! And any artist interested in improvement loves to hear constructive criticism.

But I'm pretty sure you know this. You were just too lazy or something?

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xxScarletdragonxx In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 21:04:37 +0000 UTC]

Actually you did say "Thank God Vermini isn't. Looks fucking retarded.", that IS rude. And so what if he's 24? Pokemon can be enjoyed by people of any age. I'm 21 and I still love it.

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Devilomsorgar In reply to xxScarletdragonxx [2013-01-10 02:24:04 +0000 UTC]

I'm 19 and I enjoy it. I straight up praised B&W in case you didn't actually read anything I wrote. But getting butthurt over Pokemon at such a high age... I mean hell, getting butthurt over anything is childish.

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Kyle-Dove In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 20:51:40 +0000 UTC]

Satoru Iwata takes pokemon very seriously and he's 54 so age has nothing to do with it. I know you didn't call the new gen retarded, but you did say you weren't sure you wanted a new gen. BW is no longer the newest gen I don't know if you realised. So it seems you're the one who can't read properly, or even understand the things you've said.

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Devilomsorgar In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-10 02:27:23 +0000 UTC]

>4th president of Nintendo
>makes millions and millions of yens off of Pokemon

:iconyoudontsayplz I'd praise my own feces if it made me millions of dollars.

I can't read properly? I never said B&W was the current gen. I'm very aware of the things I say. Because I don't want a new gen doesn't mean I think the new gen is retarded, which is what you implied I was implying, which I most-definitely wasn't implying.
I'm well aware there's a new gen coming out. I just don't want another generation of Pokemon. Let sleeping dogs lie, they say. Time to put Pokemon to rest, imho, which I know you'll disagree with (but since we're on the topic of new generations and whatnot).

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Devilomsorgar [2013-01-10 09:47:54 +0000 UTC]

Clearly even though you are 19 you have trouble understanding things so I'll have to spell it out for you.
You said "vermini looks fucking retarded" so I said "don't call pokemon in my game retarded", that makes sense yes? Then you said you don't want another generation, so I said I don't care what you think of the new generation...All make sense? I never said you called the new gen retarded which is what you keep claiming. Glad I could help someone who has trouble understanding things

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Devilomsorgar In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-10 10:34:14 +0000 UTC]

Me: "What the fuck are these ugly weird-ass Pokemon?"

You: "They are the new pokemon so you better get used to them! (not vermini he's a fake)"

Me: "Thank God Vermini isn't. Looks fucking retarded.
The Pokemon in Black and White were so different from all the others, but they're all alpha as fuck. Big, beasty lookin mother fuckers. Not sure I want a new gen.

"Then again, I really don't give a damn."

You: "Excuse me but don't call the pokemon in my game ***ing retarded. I dont give a crap what you think of the newer pokemon. If you dont want a new gen then don't play it? It's easy to avoid, I wish I could opt out of talking to people like you as easily!
If you don't give a damn then dont go posting rude comments."

Me: "You're 24 Bro. Don't take Pokemon so seriously. I didn't say any new gen Pokemons looked fucking retarded. I loved how beasty (as I said) the B and W gen was.

"A 'rude' comment would've been 'Why is the new gen so fucking retarded?' which is what I didn't say.

"Grow up, Bro, and read comments over before jumping to conclusions. You butthurt yourself; I merely praised how badass the latest gen was. Not my fault you misread what I wrote."

You can remember the rest, I'm sure.
What I said was Virmini, your new Pokemon, looked fucking retarded. Sorry I offended you. Now, you said I said the new generation looked fucking retarded. I clarified by saying that wasn't what I was implying at all.
Rather, it's that I'm not ready for another generation, and since I have to clarify it for you: it's because B&W/B2&W2 are so new still. And why do I feel like this? Because, as I've felt for the past... several years towards Nintendo, they're milking all their major franchises.

So, in the end, it's you who apparently has trouble understanding things. I'm well aware of what I said. You took it the wrong way, which is understandable because you're upset I called something you created (Virmini) dumb. Again, sorry I offended you (I guess I just have to be the one asshole who breaks the hard facts).

Now, if you still think I'm the "wrong" one in this "argument" who has trouble "understanding," be my guest and block me so I don't ruffle your jimmies anymore.

Glad I could help somebody who has trouble understanding simple English

As a side note, I don't think your game is dumb at all; I called Virmini "fucking retarded," just to clarify one last time for you.

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Devilomsorgar [2013-01-10 11:21:18 +0000 UTC]

You seem to still have trouble understanding things, I'm sorry I didn't simplify things enough for you.
I never said you called the new gen retarded. You just quoted all my responses and it's clear I never said that? I said don't call the pokemon (vermini) in my game retarded, and you've admitted on multiple times that you called vermini retarded so...

Also I don't see how I butthurt myself, If someone is rude to you and you call them out on it then it's not butthurt at all, it's defending yourself. But I guess it would be a lot easier for you to bully people if they didn't defend themselves lol.

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Devilomsorgar In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-10 12:08:27 +0000 UTC]

You're not even worth wasting my time on.
No, you didn't literally say "You said the new generation of Pokemon looks fucking retarded". You implied I didn't like them. I said the ones featured were "ugly" and "weird-ass". Go back and read what you wrote, and you'll see you wrote:

"Excuse me but don't call the pokemon in my game ***ing retarded. I dont give a crap what you think of the newer pokemon. If you dont want a new gen then don't play it? It's easy to avoid, I wish I could opt out of talking to people like you as easily!
If you don't give a damn then dont go posting rude comments."

I didn't know this worm was of your creation, which I've apologized for the miscommunication on that part. Seeing "Gen 6 is in the MMO" gave me the impression this worm was of gen 6. Again, didn't I apologize for that?

I'm not bullying at all. As you, I'm defending myself. It's an argument: that's what you do. You defend your opinion until another one caves or gives up. It's how all arguments go.
Now, the reason I began the argument was this:

"I dont give a crap what you think of the newer pokemon. If you dont want a new gen then don't play it? It's easy to avoid, I wish I could opt out of talking to people like you as easily!
If you don't give a damn then dont go posting rude comments."

This, being what you wrote and not being any sort of the intent my original comment was written for, caused me to defend myself, which snowballed into what it is now.

So aren't you the bully here? Or is it because I type well and use harsh language I'm the bully? You're the one who jumped to conclusions and got mad I didn't like your Pokemon you made, which at the time I hadn't realized you made it.

Do you understand where I'm coming from now?

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Devilomsorgar [2013-01-10 12:43:47 +0000 UTC]

Well you clearly can't read very well either as I never even made the worm. The description clearly states that someone else created it...how embarrasing for you.

I don't see how I'm the bully when I'm not the one resorting to harsh language and silly plz icons...Such devices are only used by people who can't articulate their points across easily and have to resort to silly images to do so for them.
Also how can I be the bully when you're the one who started this and I just defended myself? I didn't actively choose to seek you out and post rude comments on your work, now did I?

If anyone jumped to conclusions then I'm afraid it was you, first off by not reading the description and thinking vermini was 6th gen, then attacking me on my work. I did imply you didn't like the new gen, but you said you wish pokemon would end and there wouldn't be a 6th Gen so I don't see how that's any different from not liking it...You basically affirmed that my implication was correct.

If you like it but don't want it to exist then clearly I misunderstood and for that I apologise. I just don't see how you can like something but wish it didn't exist. Obviously I must be an idiot for not understanding that.

You did apologise for confusing Vermini as a 6th gen pokemon and I accept it. I appreciate that. I have no problem with you at all, but you keep acting like you're blameless when the basic truth of the matter is that you're never justified in leaving such rude comments on someone's work. You've only apologised for the miscommunication, not for your unnacceptable language.

Whatever, it's obvious you have no problem treating people like that and I'm not gonna change anything so sorry for this whole series of messages and let's move on. Maybe one day you will play my game and see that there is a lot more to it than just one worm. Or maybe you won't and you don't care, either way

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Devilomsorgar In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-10 13:18:05 +0000 UTC]

Right. I feel so... embarrassed...


How is using "plz" icons bullying? It's no different than emotes, which I've seen you use at least twice now ( <-emote)
Anywho, harsh language is harsh language. How does that have anything to do with bullying? Now, if I called you a "fucking retard," that would be bullying.

"Such devices are only used by people who can't articulate their points across easily and have to resort to silly images to do so for them."

You gotta be kidding me.

"Also how can I be the bully when you're the one who started this and I just defended myself? I didn't actively choose to seek you out and post rude comments on your work, now did I?"

I commented, you replied, I commented back, you got rustled, I replied. If you deny that's what happened, then you're just wrong.

"I didn't actively choose to seek you out and post rude comments on your work, now did I?"

Go ahead. Doesn't bother me when somebody makes an opinion. Somebody says I suck at art, oh well. It's happened before; I don't get butthurt.
Oh, I forgot, you're the only person who can be right in this world, though.

"If anyone jumped to conclusions then I'm afraid it was you, first off by not reading the description and thinking vermini was 6th gen, then attacking me on my work. I did imply you didn't like the new gen, but you said you wish pokemon would end and there wouldn't be a 6th Gen so I don't see how that's any different from not liking it...You basically affirmed that my implication was correct."

Now this is where you're wrong. You are absolutely, 100%, positively wrong here. Being lead to something because it's "falsely implied" and "jumping to conclusions" are two completely different things, to clarify. Or would you like to argue against that, too?
Why did I think the worm was 6th gen? Well, maybe because your title implies that "the sixth generation is in the 'MMO'". Seeing that, I would take it, as I'm sure so many people who aren't familiar that you've put made-up Pokemon into your game, that said featured Pokemon is indeed 6th gen. Was I right? Of course not. Mislead? Not at all. Jumped to conclusions? No. What you titled your picture implied featured art was "sixth gen". And no, I didn't read your description fully, which of course plays into this. But, try to tell me I'm wrong (or I shouldn't say that, because I know you will).

Let's say I draw a picture of a house. I title it "blue fish". Somebody sees that and writes "That's not a blue fish." I reply "Don't jump to conclusions." Would that make sense? There's obviously a miscommunication here. They didn't read my description, and obviously my "house isn't a blue fish."

See what I'm saying?

Also, I wish there wouldn't be a 6th generation not because I don't like the 6th gen... I haven't seen any Pokemon but this frog thing. I appreciate you admit you implied I didn't like the new gen, but by now way is that what I was implying. Do I like Nintendo for already announcing another Pokemon generation despite only releasing a Pokemon game a few months back? Of course not. I'm not a fan of modern Nintendo. Not because they don't make good games, but because of their marketing approach. They work on the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it; milk it" idea. It's not bad at all making money off of something you've made that is good, but there's a point where it's time to give something a break.
Let's say the new generation was announced two years down the road. It's be surprising and fresh to see a new Pokemon game come out, would it not? Being a Pokemon game was literally released only months ago, I find it unappealing there's another one already announced. Will this stop me from playing the new one? I doubt it. I've played all the others (never beat Diamond. Didn't like it to be honest), so I'm sure I'll get around to playing it... I know I could just NOT play it and be one of those "I don't support Nintendo" people, but that's more childish than how I'm having to go about explaining all of this to prove I never, ever implied any negative towards the new generation. To one single Pokemon, yes; to the entire generation, no.
So really, I did not "affirm" your implication correct the least bit. Stop concluding so easily and think rationally.

"If you like it but don't want it to exist then clearly I misunderstood and for that I apologise. I just don't see how you can like something but wish it didn't exist. Obviously I must be an idiot for not understanding that."

Now I never said I "liked" it, because as I just wrote, I haven't even seen all of the new gen Pokemon. And now, if you actually read what I wrote, you know why I don't want the new generation to exist.
Thank you for apologizing though.

"You did apologise for confusing Vermini as a 6th gen pokemon and I accept it. I appreciate that. I have no problem with you at all, but you keep acting like you're blameless when the basic truth of the matter is that you're never justified in leaving such rude comments on someone's work. You've only apologised for the miscommunication, not for your unnacceptable language."

If it's the language that's been bothering you, you could've said so to begin with :/ At least, I'm glad the Vermini thing is cleared up, and apologies are being thrown around. But really, if it's my language that's offended you from the beginning, you could've told me from the get go something like "I don't like your language, but we all have our own opinions nonetheless."
Anywho, now that I know it's been my language that's offended you, I'm sorry.

Really, your game's interested me from the moment I found out it was your game... I'm not gonna lie. Being a full-time university student, I'm not sure when I'll have time for that, though, as I only have time to do things at night after I've finished everything for the day (I'm currently on break, which is why I'm able to have such long-winded "huehues" on deviantart like this).

But, now that I see you're ready to move on, and I'm ready to move on, and neither of us will fully accept the blame (hell knows I'm not going to accept it, and I know you won't because... what human wants to accept blame but rather put it upon somebody else? I think it's your fault; you think it's my fault, somebody backs you up; somebody backs me up... it's human way... you know?)

Anywho, I'm going to post this message despite your call for truce (I take it "let's move on" means you want a truce, correct me if I'm wrong) only because I took a while to write it despite it being 5 AM right now (can't sleep after coffee today, perhaps) and I want to clear up the fact it's not the Pokemon I hate, but the decisions I don't respect at Nintendo. Not saying Nintendo's a bad company, either. I used to love Nintendo as a kid, but nowadays, I disagree with a lot of business tactics they tend to execute.

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Devilomsorgar [2013-01-10 14:04:07 +0000 UTC]

Ok I'm totally over this whole thing. The worm is meant to look silly so I'm not bothered at all by that.
I don't think I misled anyone, and definitely not intentionally. It wasn't hidden in a really long description or anything. It's like if I drew a picture of every pokemon, then added sixth gen and titled it "The sixth gen is now in my picture!".

I would like to say finally that I have no problem admitting when I'm wrong, it's a way of learning and improving myself. I assumed by asking you to stop being rude you would understand I meant your language, as most people would understand it - you then even made it personal by bringing my age into it which there was no need for.

I admit I could have made it clearer, maybe I shouldn't have put vermini in this screenshot. Maybe I should have titled it "6th gen is now in my mmo that has other fakemon in it also" but that would be a really long title...
Yes I was offended, and reacted quickly meaning I probably didn't respond in the best manner. I'm sorry for being offended but I've put a lot of hours into this game.

I just want to reply to some of your comments but solely as a discussion not in an argumentative manner at all.

I think the "nintendo is trying to cash in and not changing the formula" isn't really true, personally. It's the nature of things that as hardware gets developed faster, software is also developed faster. The reason they're making new pokemon so quick is because of the 3DS.

It's no different to the million different new apple product releases. For example - people didn't even have mobile phones in the past, then they had one brick phone, now people change phones multiple times in a year. I don't think phone companies releasing new versions is being greedy, it's just keeping up with demand and staying ahead of competitors.

I don't even see how "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" is true in this case, have you seen the new game? It's a completely new engine and everything is in 3D. They could have taken the easy option and released another game same as BW, but they didn't. Or they could have released spin-offs for a few more years and people would complain about that, or they could release remakes and people would complain about that...either way they can't win.
If you accused nintendo of the "aint broke, dont fix it" thing for the releases of crystal, emerald or platinum for example I would totally agree. Nintendo are clearly trying though, as proven by their release of BW2, the first proper pokemon sequels.

This latest game must have been in development for the past year or so, whilst they were working on BW and BW2, which featured idle animations for 649 characters. Why did they bother to go through so much trouble knowing it wouldn't last, its because it's a labour of love for them. At least that's what I believe, though there may be some truth to your comments also since after all they are a business too. And I also disagree on a lot of their business tactics.

But still, the gameplay isn't gonna change by a lot, look at zelda games for example. Or like, you can't complain that all Call of Duty games are the same and they are all about running around shooting things...that's the genre.

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Devilomsorgar In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-10 14:47:02 +0000 UTC]

Indeed, that's understandable.

Now, the reason I brought your age into it is because I figured you were upset over the fact I said something against Pokemon... which, I think any adult getting upset over such a simple thing is childish, but I figure a game targeted towards a younger audience is causing somebody to get upset... then you know... I shall speak no further on the matter, as it was, in the end, my mistake on your remark that brought about the mentioning of your age.

"I admit I could have made it clearer, maybe I shouldn't have put vermini in this screenshot. Maybe I should have titled it "6th gen is now in my mmo that has other fakemon in it also" but that would be a really long title...
Yes I was offended, and reacted quickly meaning I probably didn't respond in the best manner. I'm sorry for being offended but I've put a lot of hours into this game"

Thank you thank you, and like I said, nothing against your game. I always thought a Pokemon MMO would be cool. It's just that a serious of miscommunications brought about the implication I may have thought your game was dumb, which was definitely not the case.

Now, regarding this "humanly discussion" we're now having regarding Nintendo:

You see, we're on different standpoints here. I view it as a gimmick that companies release things too fast to make money, knowing somebody's going to dumb their paycheck into the next big thing to come out. I mean, I can't tell you how many students at my uni had the new iPhone the day it came out. You know, I still have a flip-phone, and it works for what it's made for: calling and texting. It ain't bad to move up in the world, though. Hell, I wouldn't mind being able to whip my phone out and check Google really quick. However, being that I have other means of accessing the internet, which is something I find unnecessary to access 24/7 opposed to the hive-mind it's something we should have built into our heads, I deem it useless to spend my money on a new phone despite mine working perfectly. Then I consider myself lucky I'm not like those who waste their money on a new phone despite having a perfectly good phone to tide them over until it wears out... I find it wasteful for Apple to release an iPhone every year. Why not spend a couple years or more developing an AWESOME phone? I mean, imagine what they do in a year with the iPhone... Now, imagine what they could accomplish in four years developing on their ideas, and following the newer technology that's on the way. See what I'm saying? It's as if they're just releasing new ones every year to keep getting money to eventually make a groundbreaking new thing (which was the iPad not too long ago... which I still have my iPad one and am about to toss it out the window since it doesn't work with anything... since everything requires the newest iPad... Which you have to admit is a ploy to push older gen users to upgrade, no?).

Now, I do completely see where you're coming from. I'm a huge fan of Shin Megami Tensei. I'd love a new one released every single year (well, since there are so many people making spin-offs, it's common for three Shin Megami Tensei games to be released in the same year... but the spin-offs are always as good as the flagship, if not better than the flagship titles) from the flagship series. A new one is coming out this year, SMT IV. SMT III came out on the PS2 maybe... 2006 or so? 2007? 08 at the latest. That's great marketing. IMO, Atlus is by far the greatest marketers, and that's not because I love SMT... I don't even like a lot of Atlus' games, but they're damn good at marketing.

Now, back to Nintendo, and bringing over my point from the Apple part... You see, what I'm trying to say is why not build their "manpower" over the couple, maybe few years and release an AWESOME game? Imagine this... Pokemon goes off the radar for three years... or make it four... Two years later, you hear about something... another year later, there's a new game in development, that's been in development for the newest handheld: the 3DS. You just bought a 3DS a year before, luckily. One more year passes, and a damn good Pokemon game just came out.

If I remember right, it's common for a couple years to pass before a new Gen, so it's not like they're coming out with a new one every year like the iPhone... However, between Black and White, Black and White 2, now this NEW new game... It's like, a little too sudden. Imagine a new iPhone coming out... You get it... A year later, the newer one comes out, and is a slight improvement as usual... Then as soon as you buy it, not a couple months later, there's an even BETTER one coming out that's up-to-date with all the fancy technology... It's overwhelming right?

I think that's the deal with Pokemon. Too much, too soon. If I were a game company director (which, to note: I'm not), I'd let the last big flagship title ease off slowly, then once that happens, announce a new one... then, a while later, talk about how awesome it'll be. Two or three months after B2/W2, it's "BAM LOOK HOW AWESOME THIS NEXT GEN IS!!!" No easing us into it at all. Maybe if you saw hints or pics taken from Japanese gaming magz, the news wouldn't be so shocking. Not many Westerners are like that, though, and a of Westerners play Pokemon...

I also think it's cool they made a proper sequel to a Pokemon game. I'd loooove a proper sequel to Gold/Silver, my favorite gen. And the thing is, they had hundreds of idle sprites for Pokemon for so many years because they should've learned from Crystal, which they didn't, and had to play catch-up after Emerald brought it back (and for some reason they stopped again...? Or did Fire Red and Leaf Green come out before Emerald? I can't remember...), and they had a bunch of new Pokemon to animate that they should've animated in Ruby and Sapphire. I honestly think it was a bad move to not animate them back then. I think this 3DS one is going to be the one we should've gotten instead of B2/W2, and then have the sequels released later, you know? Release them as they did, where it's cool for both 3DS and DS owners to play it, but since 3DS Pokemon is out, people probably moved up by then.

Now Zelda... The thing about Zelda that's the "always changing factor" is the setting. Something relating to time, something relating to the classic-gothic story of "damsel in the beast's clutches" kidna thing, but always fresh with new things... Now, there are a lot of things about Zelda they could've done a whole lot better, don't get me wrong. Awesome series; grew up with it. I didn't like Twilight Princess, but I think they did an awesome job marketing that one. A dark, gritty Zelda setting, after the cute, cel-shaded Wind Waker and simply fun GBA Minnish Cap. Then they come out with Skyward Sword, which blew so many players' minds with how good it actually was (I for one have still yet to play it... You know, haven't been much of a Zelda fan since Twilight Princess... Not that I didn't like it, or I hate Zelda... I just kinda got bored with the series, and eventually came back to play Twilight Princess, as I will eventually with Skyward Sword... and I'm sure it's really good).

Regarding CoD... IDK if you're a fan of it or not... but I for one find it literally the same game every time. I can't say there's anything new but weapons since COD Modern Warfare (the first one...). Now, a lot of people like that. The developers obviously like that, because it nets them some crazy money. I and a whole lot of others don't, because we don't enjoy shoveling out money for a game with a coat of semi-fresh paint, when there are a whole load of fresh games out there to play.
And back to CoD and the such, I find Battlefield 3 a backwards step with a whole lot of cool new stuff still. Sure, there's a whole lot of cool new stuff apart from Battlefield 2 and the CoD games, but it's changed its roots from what it was in the previous battlefields. Perhaps a good marketing decision, but not a good developer decision. Sure the game's good fun with blowing up buildings and all the action, but I'd expect them to turn more away from the usual CoD FPS-ideas and more towards that unique experience each new Battlefield game had.


Also, I want to make it clear that because I sound like I'm a hater on various things (Pokemon, Zelda, Nintendo, Apple -well, I do hate Apple, but that's another topic for another time-, etc) doesn't mean I actually hate it. It's merely observations and things I find could've led them more towards the future and less towards the bank/past/grandma's house.

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Devilomsorgar [2013-01-10 15:18:23 +0000 UTC]

I don't think pokemon is really directed completely at children, it's like saying its directed at japan. It may have been to start with but look at how they are acknowledging their overseas fans now. The newer games deal with a lot more serious topics and there is an incredibly deep metagame that I doubt most kids even know about let alone appreciate.
Think back like 50 years ago or so, ALL games were considered childish. What's considered 'for children' is changing with the times and we are now getting full-grown adults that are into gaming and no one thinks it's childish.
For example I think you're an anime fan, years ago people would have looked at you and gone "wow you like childish japanese cartoons...grow up" (not meant as an insult I am a big anime fan myself).

And about the other stuff well I half agree with you, I just think it's different ways of working. The Shin Megami Tensei games might be awesome but they're not that well known or famous, so you could argue that they are not as "successful" (whatever that means anyway).

You can wait a few years, keep it secret and release a new game, but that's kinda like a reboot. You're making the fans think it's dead which is cruel especially when there's so much demand. In that time you leave a niche open for other games to take over, and there are SO many games like pokemon nipping at it's heel and trying to ride their popularity wave that I dont think nintendo could afford to take a break at all. Essentially the masses are happy with the new games and that's what really matters.

Of course if they made better spinoffs it would totally be worth it but that's probably not going to happen...

I completely agree about iPhones being released constantly and how it's not good, I still one of the first iphones that came out years ago and I'm not planning on upgrading any time soon (especially as you can update the IOS anyway for free for most things). But the point I'm trying to make is that it's just the kind of culture we live in now, if apple didn't do it - someone else would and then they'd be the one that is more famous not apple.

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shinokuma In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 07:31:05 +0000 UTC]

Wow, this dope. What is the name of the MMO that isn't open to everyone yet?

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Kyle-Dove In reply to shinokuma [2013-01-09 10:17:51 +0000 UTC]

Pokengine. Thanks!

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luckygirl88 In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 07:27:28 +0000 UTC]

Damn, MMO this fast. The fans really do gey around.

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Kyle-Dove In reply to luckygirl88 [2013-01-09 11:25:06 +0000 UTC]

Yup why should I wait xD

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sweeney-todd-warrior In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 07:14:29 +0000 UTC]

What MMO is this? (:

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Kyle-Dove In reply to sweeney-todd-warrior [2013-01-09 10:17:36 +0000 UTC]

It's my mmo

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sweeney-todd-warrior In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-11 06:24:23 +0000 UTC]

Oh cool! I guess I should've checked your profile before asking ^^'

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MidnightRose1918 In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 07:10:36 +0000 UTC]

so when will the full mmo come out to everyone

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Kyle-Dove In reply to MidnightRose1918 [2013-01-09 10:17:26 +0000 UTC]

No planned date yet, I guess when we feel it's complete enough. There's still no intro or anything! Hopefully this year?

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MidnightRose1918 In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-09 10:22:27 +0000 UTC]

k then =3

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master0500 In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 07:10:19 +0000 UTC]

aww i have to buy a new ds

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Miss-Ame In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 06:54:51 +0000 UTC]

I'm really going to miss the old pixels for pokemon games. Its gonna be going 3DS now. So no more pixels ;n; The worm seems like a great idea for a pokemon

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Miss-Ame [2013-01-09 10:16:42 +0000 UTC]

I will miss the pixels too but it was gonna happen sooner or later! The pokemon community will keep the pixels alive! Thanks I love the little guy.

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Cam1ra In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 06:22:58 +0000 UTC]

NO POKEMON NO!! ;____;
What is thi sh*t?
I remember when there was only 151 POKEMON !! ;;_______;;
And they didnt look so stupid.. I like old pokemon games :/ but this is just my opinion :I

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Kyle-Dove In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-09 10:15:12 +0000 UTC]

Then...just stick to the old games? I remember those times too and it wasn't nearly as fun. And anyway what's more stupid than a purple rat or a rock with arms...

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Cam1ra In reply to Kyle-Dove [2013-01-09 11:09:22 +0000 UTC]

Im not sure about that, because that blue frog with balls on his/her nose looks kind of weird .__.
Well i have to say that Fennekein is cute .__. but it's just like some1 likes cats and some1 hates cats and like dogs .-.
nobody cant win.

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SadistSkunk In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-09 06:51:48 +0000 UTC]

Yeah man, we had like.. Goldeen, diglet, voltorb, mister mime, jynx and grimer and shit.
And Dragonite was THE BEST and most logical evolution ever.
/sarcasm

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master0500 In reply to SadistSkunk [2013-01-09 07:11:23 +0000 UTC]

dragonite, u will always be my favorite

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SadistSkunk In reply to master0500 [2013-01-09 08:48:31 +0000 UTC]

Haha, seriously? xD It just looks so.. retarded.. Like a charizard with down syndrome..

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tigerchomped In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-09 06:33:20 +0000 UTC]

Back in my day, only remembering the original ones actually meant something. True fans don't give a shit how many pokemon there are, they enjoy being able to play as much as possible. :T

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VermilionArt In reply to tigerchomped [2013-01-09 07:24:50 +0000 UTC]

You're not a true fan simply because you can't except change and get over your nostalgia.

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tigerchomped In reply to VermilionArt [2013-01-09 07:32:58 +0000 UTC]

Obviously someone didn't comprehend what was said. c:

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VermilionArt In reply to tigerchomped [2013-01-10 00:52:00 +0000 UTC]

Sorry, ugh, I was tired. Sorry I misunderstood your comment.

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KrissyRin In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-09 06:26:59 +0000 UTC]

This is a fan game, based on Pokemon.

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Cam1ra In reply to KrissyRin [2013-01-09 06:55:44 +0000 UTC]

oh, i see but why 'pokemons' dont look like pokemons .-. ...

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marpie In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-09 21:25:30 +0000 UTC]

a lot of the pokemon are fan made monsters.

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Cam1ra In reply to marpie [2013-01-09 21:31:31 +0000 UTC]

It's useless to say anything about that game .__. because angry fans gonna attack x3

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marpie In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-10 19:22:55 +0000 UTC]

well as long as its not insulting you're safe. however it is safer not to say anything if its gonna bash another persons hard work.

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Cam1ra In reply to marpie [2013-01-11 06:37:59 +0000 UTC]

Well that's funny, like people who made ginga densetsu weed ect. It's hard work to do animations, but that anime have a lot mistakes -> [link] and some people even hate it, i found one group about 'we-hate-animedogs' <- something like that.
Well yes, that pissed me off, how some people hate it and make fun about it.
But that's why people have their's rights to have own opinion. Sometimes you got to get criticism, or you gonna be like ''IM THE BEST''.
You may understans that all people cant like someone's work.
Some my friends on fb was 'What is this..', 'there missing something' <- talking about pokemons.
But still, creat job to do something like that, everybody cant do/dont have skills to do fan games.

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KrissyRin In reply to KrissyRin [2013-01-09 06:29:00 +0000 UTC]

Vermini isn't actually in Gen 6, is what I meant. xD

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notbecca In reply to Cam1ra [2013-01-09 06:26:37 +0000 UTC]

Gen1 had some stupid Pokemon, too. Just because we liked the games that came out first doesn't mean we should begrudge the company for expanding their market. They have to grow and change along with the times in order to stay afloat, and it's no one's fault, it's simply business.

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Detrimont In reply to notbecca [2013-01-09 08:17:33 +0000 UTC]

thank god i'm not the only one who thinks so

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VermilionArt In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 06:18:56 +0000 UTC]

I want Cheshy.

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76JacK In reply to ??? [2013-01-09 05:56:42 +0000 UTC]

At least new starters looks better. But they forgot gen 3(ruby and sapphire) remake!

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Kyle-Dove In reply to 76JacK [2013-01-09 10:14:04 +0000 UTC]

Just think though, when they do the remakes they are gonna be in this style! It's gonna be epic!

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cNhiansae In reply to 76JacK [2013-01-09 07:50:06 +0000 UTC]

I've always wanted a gen 3 remake since I really enjoyed playing the remake of gold and silver. Plus the Hoenn region is one of my favorites.

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