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As a Seychelles cosplayer and role-player, I am very aware of the hate Seychelles receives. I know that there are reasons out there, but are they even reasonable? In this rant, I reveal why the common reasons of hating her barely make any sense. We are all entitled to our opinions, so she may be the most adorable thing ever, or appear to be boring and unappealing to others. Also, I'm not saying that you have to love her, or even like her! But you shouldn't really have to hate  her when there are practically no reasons to do so.

The reasons (in order) in this rant are: "She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!",  "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!", "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!", "Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!", and "Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
(And yes, this journal may get updated at times.)

-"She gets in the way of yaoi!"
No, she doesn't. I don't see how in the world she gets in the way of it. Does this mean that you hate all the other girls too, or maybe all characters? But really, nobody is getting in the way of yaoi. Did she somehow decrease the production of USUK/FrUK/GerIta etc...? What in the world are you thinking?

Fun-fact: Hetalia is not a yaoi anime.

-"She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
Are you getting that desperate in finding a reason to hate her? Oh, you hate her because she gets in the way of FrUK? So that means America 'gets in the way' of FrUK. Are you going to hate him too?  Or maybe you would hate Hungary because she 'gets in the way' of AusPrus? Just learn to ignore a pairing that you don't like, and just search things of the pairing that you do like!

Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia.

-"She is such a bitch!"
I never thought that she ever fit the definition of being that. I looked the word up just to make extra sure that I know what I'm saying here, unlike those who simply toss that term around like it's nothing.

Bitch- A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing; a lewd woman; a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person.

Can you tell me when there was a time when she was ever like any of the terms? If you can't, then why do you even call her that in the first place?

-"She is a whore!"
To be a whore is to be a dissolute and/or promiscuous person. A whore is usually the one who also has sex with many people and such.

If you are calling her a whore because of Gakuen Hetalia, your judgment is definitely off. She never tried to have sex with anyone, nonetheless flirt with them! And it seemed that pretty much nobody had tried to flirt with her either, excluding France. If you think that she's a whore because she 'gets all the men', that's invalid; she never 'gets' the men. At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them, because it's a respectful thing to do. So in your world, possibly being nice to others = whore? Or, being kind = flirting?

To those who have that type of logic: In life, you probably have tried being nice and kind to others, right? If so, call yourself a whore, too. If not, call yourself a hypocrite. If you do not wish to be either of those terms, there is hope. Please refer to this possibility: Do not label Seychelles as a whore.

-"She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!"
Please refer back to the previous rant about titled "She is a whore!". Is it because Seychelles is the one communicating with the characters and not you? Okay, maybe you should just consider yourself jealous- yes, be jealous of a sweet girl.

Come on, must you really be jealous of a character who does not even exist, nonetheless be jealous of her because she talks to characters who also do not exist? Besides, in Gakuen Hetalia, it's actually you being put in the perspective of Seychelles, but you get to make the choices of what she does or not. So in a way, you're still being yourself in the game in a way.

By the way, some people say that Gakuen Hetalia is a 'dating sim'. Okay, maybe it does have the title of it, or something? But it seems to be the type of game that is like, "Let's make friends and make it through school!" type of game, nothing major. At most, you just have daily conversations with the characters and stuff- similar to what you would do in real life.

-"She's a Mary-Sue!"
How would you even know if she is? "She's so perfect!" No, she does have faults and flaws, which you probably did not care to look up. She's a bit of a glutton; she laments about her high cost of living; she does get teased because of her coat of arms, and possibly bullied for other reasons in Gakuen Hetalia; she is not good at cooking, but slightly better than England; she is also insecure about herself at times. And some people say that she's a Mary-Sue because she 'gets all the guys'. Refer back to my two rants of "She is a whore" and/or "She gets all the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!".

There are several different types of Mary-Sues, but I'll give the general definitions.
Mary-Sue: A fictional character, usually female and especially in fan-fiction, whose implausible talents and likableness weaken the story; they are perfect with their fashion, looks, beauty, intelligence, strength, social skills, and/or power.
In my opinion, Seychelles is very adorable in her designs! She can be smart at times, but a bit clumsy too. And her social skills, like I said, she tries to be nice to others. If she's nice to others, it makes sense for others to be nice to her. Even then, she does get teased, so her social skills are not perfect.

-"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Then you probably hate Spain and Turkey, yes?

In the first four seasons of Hetalia, characters like Seychelles, Spain, and Turkey were very white. That was because of Studio DEEN's previous director and staff. Since there are now a new director and staff members, the characters now have their original skin color in season 5. Besides, Himaruya did design Seychelles to have tan skin. Also, apparently it's known that Himaruya does not always stick to the same shade color for skin, so her skin color may vary from a light tan to medium tan to dark. Drawings of Seychelles by Himaruya -> images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… images5.fanpop.com/image/photo… images6.fanpop.com/image/photo… (And I tried to find that scan of Seychelles in the manga where she's wearing her school uniform. It's in a colored page. If anyone finds what I'm talking about, I'll be happy to include it!)

-"She gets paired up with EVERYONE!"
Why must that matter so much to you? England, Prussia, America, France etc...and lots of other countries are paired up with several other characters/countries/humans. On the contrary, the most popular ships Seychelles is involved in are EnglandXSeychelles and FranceXSeychelles. But one of the most popular ships overall are, for example, USUK, FrUK, and EnglandXJapan. Interesting, a lot of people do love England, but I never heard anyone complain how he's paired up a lot. (And yes, I really do like England too. This is not meant to bash him by any means, but to only make a point across.)

Fact: The fandom pairs up lots of characters with each other.
If you do not like that^ fact, the frustration should not be aimed at the character; and instead, rethink if you really wish to be part of a fandom that pairs up characters often.

Fact: A lot of Hetalia characters get paired up with a lot of Hetalia characters. (What a big surprise!)
To hate Seychelles for being paired up with others...well, look at all the other characters.

-"She's a FEMALE."
Can you please provide a reason why this is a wonderful excuse to hate Seychelles? First you have to be hater, and now be a bit of a sexist? Then perhaps you hate Hungary, and Liechtenstein, and any other female characters just because they have a womanhood? I can get into deeper details on why this is wrong on so many levels, but I rather not.
Ironically, the majority of the Hetalia fandom are females! "Is a female; hates female characters."

-"She's an island!"
What kind of reason is that? Contrary to belief, Seychelles is not an island, but an archipelago(basically a chain of islands. Still, get your facts straight). Why aim your frustrations at a character just because he/she represents an island or archipelago country?
Okay, well I never heard of any reasons to hate Japan, Taiwan, England, Iceland etc... just because they are island countries.

-"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Firstly, Seychelles' personality is basically: bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice. I suggest learning more about Seychelles's history and personality before using this reason to hate her.

If you understand Seychelles' history and personality, and you still hate her for how she is portrayed, could it be because she appears OOC(out of character)? If so, remember that it's the Author's doing; if you know for a fact that the real Seychelles would not act like that, perhaps you should try finding better fanfictions that portray her better and ignore the bad fanfictions?

-"Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!"
Just because a character is a minor character, that doesn't mean that the character is useless or unnecessary. Hetalia is basically a world of personified countries, and even micronations! Sure, Seychelles was neither in Axis nor Allies, but she is still a country. Because she is a country with history with some of the other characters, such as being raised by France etc... she does have at least some importance. She may not have as much appearances compared to the main cast, but she can still be useful. Besides, there are other countries/micronations characters who are still a part of Hetalia who have even less screen-time than Seychelles, such as Australia, Principality of Wy, Romania etc..

-"Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
Think of it like this: Seychelles is known because she was in the Hetalia game Gakeun Hetalia, which is very popular. She gets to have a few appearances in the manga. She was known as being a popular Hetalia character who got white-washed at first. And also, she's a well-known Hetalia character to receive hate- and because of the hate, some people joined the fan-base in order to give Seychelles more positive attention. Eventually, things add up to why her fan-base may appear big-- but certainly not as big as the other characters.
Besides, there are some characters who did less than Seychelles and did not do much in the anime, yet their fan-base is bigger than Seychelles', such as Hong Kong.

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Comments: 322

peachcoffee19 [2020-06-15 16:36:15 +0000 UTC]

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CarrotsAndCucumbers [2019-05-03 12:45:09 +0000 UTC]

My dad have been to Seychelles and this is quite coincidendel

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andronikihetalia [2017-11-04 11:39:00 +0000 UTC]

the only thing i hate about seychelles is when fanarts whitewash her cause she is more beautiful with black skin tone

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aoikuniedaxyuukanda [2017-09-09 08:35:45 +0000 UTC]

this is why i don't associate myself with fujoshis, smh.
also, i really find it hypocritical for them to say that seychelles is a "whore" for getting "paired with all the men" and then turn around and enjoy reader x hetalia characters harem fics (there's certainly nothing wrong with enjoying those, but it's just so hypocritical--basically, by their fallacious logic, they are "Whores" too for enjoying harem fics).
So much damn hate.

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DoodleBunBun [2017-07-14 04:34:19 +0000 UTC]

But in hetalia everyone is paired up with everyone

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WoolenArale In reply to DoodleBunBun [2017-09-29 11:10:55 +0000 UTC]

No , most pairings are not canon.

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DoodleBunBun In reply to WoolenArale [2017-09-29 12:03:40 +0000 UTC]

I didn't say they were, I just said you can find a ship on literally every character with every other character in this sad fandom.

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WoolenArale In reply to DoodleBunBun [2017-09-29 13:48:46 +0000 UTC]

Oh yes . Sorry for misunderstanding.
Fun fact: when i got into this fandom, i thought Hetalia was a yaoi anime. After leaving, i realised it wasnt.
The fandom is this bad .

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DoodleBunBun In reply to WoolenArale [2017-10-01 18:19:13 +0000 UTC]

YEAH SAME

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WoolenArale In reply to DoodleBunBun [2017-10-02 07:11:52 +0000 UTC]

I found Deviantart thanks to hetalia.
Which is kind of a good thing,
But now, these shipping wars are too much. Why cant people respect other's ship and be done with these wars?

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DoodleBunBun In reply to WoolenArale [2017-10-13 00:37:34 +0000 UTC]

Yeah same

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Repyue [2017-06-28 18:08:41 +0000 UTC]

Finally, justice to Seychelles- but one thing- gakuen hetalia IS a dating simulator. Not a high school simulator. If you have seen the DS opening for gakuen hetalia, there is lots of proof that it's a dating simulator (Yet I don't have time to list them.)  Seychelles to me is not a Mary Sue, but I personally a think Seychelles should've been a side character in gakuen hetalia. I think the main character (Seychelles) should've been customizable, and country marked as other. That's just my opinion though. I dislike how the haters don't realize how this is in an alternate universe, where the countries like Seychelles, but I think when they were teenagers in the other universe, they had no love or interest in Seychelles.

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hetaliaismylife2413 [2017-04-04 23:07:59 +0000 UTC]

Yeah I have to agree, most of these reasons for hating Seychelles are just so stupid. I honestly don't mind her, she's cute and I like her personality. I want to play the game but I need a DS and I'm not sure if I can get a english version of it. I especially like her hair-style. I don't get why people will get all angry and bitchy when they see a really sweet and cute girl talking like a normal human being to some guy. Sure that guy is hot and all, but is that really a reason to hate on someone just for talking with them? I've read alot of stories about bullied kids and when the MC is female, that's something that's the reason for the bullies to target them. "Stay away from *random guy* he's mine!" is mostly their excuse. Most of this is made up I have no idea if it's actually happened in real life. (The reasoning of course, the bullying is clearly real I've experienced it multiple times even if it isn't physical) And what the hell is wrong with being nice? It's called being polite! I honestly will never understand the reasoning people have. So basically every single person whose nice and polite is a whore? Even when they're 5 year old kids? Wow. I'd like to see a hater come up and put in their reasoning for that or to defend themselves because no matter what they say I am not going to trust what they say so easily.

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iAquaxx-Sgren In reply to hetaliaismylife2413 [2017-04-08 10:23:39 +0000 UTC]

Exactly, people hating on a fictional character... "Getting in the way of yaoi ships" Hetalia isn't a yaoi anime anyway. I doubt most of the haters has even played Gakuen Hetalia. 

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hetaliaismylife2413 In reply to iAquaxx-Sgren [2017-04-08 21:58:45 +0000 UTC]

Yeah. I don't remember the tags on hetalia saying anything about yaoi. Okay maybe the fanfics are yaoi but that doesn't mean the show is. Maybe the haters did play gakuen hetalia but because they're so obsessed with the male characters they weren't paying attention enough and only saw this random girl "flirting" with them and somehow "getting in the way of yaoi ships."

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iAquaxx-Sgren [2017-04-04 19:02:35 +0000 UTC]

Seychelles is my energy.
Seychelles is the reason that I loved Hetalia more.
You may be angry at her because of Gakuken Hetalia,
but, did you read the plot of the story?
No one complained when many characters are getting paired with Philippines even though the's a fan made character.

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iAquaxx-Sgren In reply to iAquaxx-Sgren [2017-04-08 11:42:55 +0000 UTC]

Gakuen*

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meming-shepherd [2017-03-13 18:07:21 +0000 UTC]

she borin g ? ?

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Catpiggies [2017-03-04 15:32:04 +0000 UTC]

I feel like her character had more potential, the character seems to lack depth to me. That's the reason I don't really like the character, but I wouldn't say I hate her.

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Manaphy21 [2016-11-10 13:00:19 +0000 UTC]

I absolutely adore Seychelles. She's the kind of person I strive to be, and I do actually pair her up with Russia--who I treat as my husbando *hiccup*-- because of how much I relate to her personality and even skin color.

I just wish she had more merch... I'd totally splurge some cash on her <3

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FanFicsAiyah [2016-10-15 12:17:18 +0000 UTC]

I don't like nor hate Seychelles - lets explain, shall we?

I think all your points are truthful and correct, but in some cases - I really dislike her, even if it's a anime. Like how she spouted about Prince Williams going to her country, although England wanted it to be a secret. Yes, it is unnecessary to bash on her since she was in Gakeun Hetalia - she was -- most likely -- chosen because her character was undeveloped at the time. Anyway, if you do urge that, 'She shouldn't be in the came! She gets all the men!' 'She has no personality!'

You control her in the game. You can't really BASE her on anything, since she makes minor scenes in the anime. She has a unique-type of personality, that most females don't have. If anyone is to 'hate' because of her being a 'whore' character in Gakeun Hetalia, you can turn it off, since you won't get anywhere about complaining about it. 

Sorry if this is just copying what you said, I only read up to 'She's a female'.

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JustCallMeEmma In reply to FanFicsAiyah [2017-02-17 10:28:45 +0000 UTC]

I agree. I just don't understand WHY she is so popular in fanfictions and fanbase when she only plays a minor role and such.

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thefaultinmyfart [2016-08-09 08:08:24 +0000 UTC]

lol *actually lives in Seychelles and doesn't know what to make of this*

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SabrinaAlbarn In reply to thefaultinmyfart [2017-06-13 22:06:53 +0000 UTC]

Whats it like there?

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thefaultinmyfart In reply to SabrinaAlbarn [2017-06-15 06:52:40 +0000 UTC]

Tropical XD picture like the Caribbean Islands but more private. More than 200 islands and lots of protected endangered animals. Nature stuff XD. Also, the guys are.... Nice XD

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ThePersonWhoCaresNot [2016-07-19 16:12:57 +0000 UTC]

These idiots do realize that England is the ONLY character in Hetalia that is paired with EVERY other character, including OCs, right? Like, really. She isn't paired with everyone. Only England has that rn.

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GamerLocksGaming In reply to ThePersonWhoCaresNot [2016-11-23 07:25:35 +0000 UTC]

wut you mean 

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ThePersonWhoCaresNot In reply to GamerLocksGaming [2016-11-24 05:34:08 +0000 UTC]

It has been found that England is shipped with every character, exactly as I said. Even the most random, crack-pair ones have at least one person shipping him.

As for Seychelles, she doesn't. No other Hetalia character does.

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GamerLocksGaming In reply to ThePersonWhoCaresNot [2016-12-01 11:15:08 +0000 UTC]

i ship japan with everyone...though so do you mean by the fandom or..hima

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ThePersonWhoCaresNot In reply to GamerLocksGaming [2016-12-20 18:33:30 +0000 UTC]

I mean by the fandom ^^
Well I guess there are other characters that have someone shipping them with everyone x3 I just haven't really found any (ofcourseIgenerallyonlylookforEnglandwhoops-)

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GamerLocksGaming In reply to ThePersonWhoCaresNot [2016-12-23 19:35:01 +0000 UTC]

x3 

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ThePersonWhoCaresNot In reply to GamerLocksGaming [2016-12-23 22:09:50 +0000 UTC]

^^

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YuiHoriechama [2016-07-02 11:44:04 +0000 UTC]

Preach to the world

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LimeGreenForest [2016-06-17 12:26:43 +0000 UTC]

I never understand why a lot of people hate Seychelles. I still don't. AND BEING A WOMAN? REALLY? WTH KIND OF A REASON IS THAT? They are discriminating their own gender, sister.
 
Fun fact a bitch is also a female dog XD

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GamerLocksGaming In reply to LimeGreenForest [2016-11-23 07:26:37 +0000 UTC]

i dont like her nor hate her she seems undeveloped so if she developed more i'd like her more no offense or anything im not done hetalia

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JustCallMeEmma In reply to GamerLocksGaming [2017-02-17 10:29:21 +0000 UTC]

yea i know

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BelaTheCat08 [2016-05-18 16:01:47 +0000 UTC]

I love Seychelles cause she looks like my BFF

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Stokerclass [2016-04-17 15:40:34 +0000 UTC]

I'm a bi female and I love her way too much for my own good

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SaekiAsami [2016-04-12 23:13:56 +0000 UTC]

To be honest, I don't like Seychelles. I don't have a particular reason but I just don't. Sometimes I look at a character and just automatically don't like them, for no reason. Sometimes I look up pics of her so I can get mad lol.

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MarieVL-Sempai In reply to SaekiAsami [2018-07-22 17:06:41 +0000 UTC]

I feel that to Levi from Attack on Titan and Futaba from Persona 5 actually.

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JustCallMeEmma In reply to SaekiAsami [2017-02-17 10:35:04 +0000 UTC]

yeah, I feel a bit that way too!

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GamerLocksGaming In reply to SaekiAsami [2016-11-23 07:27:09 +0000 UTC]

lol i feel that to petra in aot xD

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OceanWarrior41 [2016-03-28 18:46:14 +0000 UTC]

I am rather neutral when it comes to Seychelles. I think she's sweet and adorable, it we know very little about her. She's definitely a good character, and people need to calm down about how she's the heroine in a dating sim and yes, she gets a chance to b with whoever. But it doesn't define her.

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JustCallMeEmma In reply to OceanWarrior41 [2017-02-17 10:35:37 +0000 UTC]

shes also kinda, uh, to put it lightly, 'oblivious'.

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Zelda1299 [2016-03-14 03:09:41 +0000 UTC]

It's not like as soon as you find out that the person you ship is shipped with someone different, you have to stop shipping your otp all together.

"Oh I love FrUk it's so cute!"

"Did you know there's also UsUk?"

".....I CAN NO LONGER SHIP FRUK IT HAS BEEN TAINTED"

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Zelda1299 [2016-03-14 03:07:46 +0000 UTC]

I have mixed feelings about Seychelles, I only focus on the main anime so she isn't seen a lot. Her being shipped with characters dosen't stop me from shipping my Yaoi :3 But overall she's pretty awesome!~

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sptvn [2016-03-09 07:49:55 +0000 UTC]

PREACH IT!

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Gem-paw [2016-01-20 17:48:13 +0000 UTC]

hey one question, I couldn't help but read this and you see I am trying to write a fanfic where she appears and I am scared I am making her a little bit bland and sense you seem to know her pretty well I wanted to know if you could answer me some doubts I have about her.

sorry for the bother, that fact is the gauken hetalia gam is not available in my country as well as several hetalia episodes so I have very little knowledge abut her. 

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tultsi93 [2016-01-12 08:12:18 +0000 UTC]

Fun fact: Harry Potter gets paired with EVERYONE as well, but no one hates him. I hate Harry, but no because of that. I have my own reasons to hate him.

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JustCallMeEmma In reply to tultsi93 [2017-02-17 10:36:20 +0000 UTC]

same! my sis thinks he's a brat

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