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As a Seychelles cosplayer and role-player, I am very aware of the hate Seychelles receives. I know that there are reasons out there, but are they even reasonable? In this rant, I reveal why the common reasons of hating her barely make any sense. We are all entitled to our opinions, so she may be the most adorable thing ever, or appear to be boring and unappealing to others. Also, I'm not saying that you have to love her, or even like her! But you shouldn't really have to hate her when there are practically no reasons to do so.
The reasons (in order) in this rant are: "She gets in the way of yaoi!", "She gets in the way of my OTP!!", "She is such a bitch!", "She is a whore!", "She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!", "She's a Mary-Sue!", "I don't like her because of her skin color!", "She gets paired up with EVERYONE!", "She's a FEMALE!", "She's an island!", "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!", "Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!", and "Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
(And yes, this journal may get updated at times.)
-"She gets in the way of yaoi!"
No, she doesn't. I don't see how in the world she gets in the way of it. Does this mean that you hate all the other girls too, or maybe all characters? But really, nobody is getting in the way of yaoi. Did she somehow decrease the production of USUK/FrUK/GerIta etc...? What in the world are you thinking?
Fun-fact: Hetalia is not a yaoi anime.
-"She gets in the way of my OTP!!"
Are you getting that desperate in finding a reason to hate her? Oh, you hate her because she gets in the way of FrUK? So that means America 'gets in the way' of FrUK. Are you going to hate him too? Or maybe you would hate Hungary because she 'gets in the way' of AusPrus? Just learn to ignore a pairing that you don't like, and just search things of the pairing that you do like!
Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia.
-"She is such a bitch!"
I never thought that she ever fit the definition of being that. I looked the word up just to make extra sure that I know what I'm saying here, unlike those who simply toss that term around like it's nothing.
Bitch- A woman considered to be spiteful or overbearing; a lewd woman; a malicious, unpleasant, selfish person.
Can you tell me when there was a time when she was ever like any of the terms? If you can't, then why do you even call her that in the first place?
-"She is a whore!"
To be a whore is to be a dissolute and/or promiscuous person. A whore is usually the one who also has sex with many people and such.
If you are calling her a whore because of Gakuen Hetalia, your judgment is definitely off. She never tried to have sex with anyone, nonetheless flirt with them! And it seemed that pretty much nobody had tried to flirt with her either, excluding France. If you think that she's a whore because she 'gets all the men', that's invalid; she never 'gets' the men. At the very most, she only socializes and tries to be nice to them, because it's a respectful thing to do. So in your world, possibly being nice to others = whore? Or, being kind = flirting?
To those who have that type of logic: In life, you probably have tried being nice and kind to others, right? If so, call yourself a whore, too. If not, call yourself a hypocrite. If you do not wish to be either of those terms, there is hope. Please refer to this possibility: Do not label Seychelles as a whore.
-"She gets ALL the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!"
Please refer back to the previous rant about titled "She is a whore!". Is it because Seychelles is the one communicating with the characters and not you? Okay, maybe you should just consider yourself jealous- yes, be jealous of a sweet girl.
Come on, must you really be jealous of a character who does not even exist, nonetheless be jealous of her because she talks to characters who also do not exist? Besides, in Gakuen Hetalia, it's actually you being put in the perspective of Seychelles, but you get to make the choices of what she does or not. So in a way, you're still being yourself in the game in a way.
By the way, some people say that Gakuen Hetalia is a 'dating sim'. Okay, maybe it does have the title of it, or something? But it seems to be the type of game that is like, "Let's make friends and make it through school!" type of game, nothing major. At most, you just have daily conversations with the characters and stuff- similar to what you would do in real life.
-"She's a Mary-Sue!"
How would you even know if she is? "She's so perfect!" No, she does have faults and flaws, which you probably did not care to look up. She's a bit of a glutton; she laments about her high cost of living; she does get teased because of her coat of arms, and possibly bullied for other reasons in Gakuen Hetalia; she is not good at cooking, but slightly better than England; she is also insecure about herself at times. And some people say that she's a Mary-Sue because she 'gets all the guys'. Refer back to my two rants of "She is a whore" and/or "She gets all the guys in Gakuen Hetalia!".
There are several different types of Mary-Sues, but I'll give the general definitions.
Mary-Sue: A fictional character, usually female and especially in fan-fiction, whose implausible talents and likableness weaken the story; they are perfect with their fashion, looks, beauty, intelligence, strength, social skills, and/or power.
In my opinion, Seychelles is very adorable in her designs! She can be smart at times, but a bit clumsy too. And her social skills, like I said, she tries to be nice to others. If she's nice to others, it makes sense for others to be nice to her. Even then, she does get teased, so her social skills are not perfect.
-"I don't like her because of her skin color!"
Then you probably hate Spain and Turkey, yes?
In the first four seasons of Hetalia, characters like Seychelles, Spain, and Turkey were very white. That was because of Studio DEEN's previous director and staff. Since there are now a new director and staff members, the characters now have their original skin color in season 5. Besides, Himaruya did design Seychelles to have tan skin. Also, apparently it's known that Himaruya does not always stick to the same shade color for skin, so her skin color may vary from a light tan to medium tan to dark. Drawings of Seychelles by Himaruya -> images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__c… images5.fanpop.com/image/photo… images6.fanpop.com/image/photo… (And I tried to find that scan of Seychelles in the manga where she's wearing her school uniform. It's in a colored page. If anyone finds what I'm talking about, I'll be happy to include it!)
-"She gets paired up with EVERYONE!"
Why must that matter so much to you? England, Prussia, America, France etc...and lots of other countries are paired up with several other characters/countries/humans. On the contrary, the most popular ships Seychelles is involved in are EnglandXSeychelles and FranceXSeychelles. But one of the most popular ships overall are, for example, USUK, FrUK, and EnglandXJapan. Interesting, a lot of people do love England, but I never heard anyone complain how he's paired up a lot. (And yes, I really do like England too. This is not meant to bash him by any means, but to only make a point across.)
Fact: The fandom pairs up lots of characters with each other.
If you do not like that^ fact, the frustration should not be aimed at the character; and instead, rethink if you really wish to be part of a fandom that pairs up characters often.
Fact: A lot of Hetalia characters get paired up with a lot of Hetalia characters. (What a big surprise!)
To hate Seychelles for being paired up with others...well, look at all the other characters.
-"She's a FEMALE."
Can you please provide a reason why this is a wonderful excuse to hate Seychelles? First you have to be hater, and now be a bit of a sexist? Then perhaps you hate Hungary, and Liechtenstein, and any other female characters just because they have a womanhood? I can get into deeper details on why this is wrong on so many levels, but I rather not.
Ironically, the majority of the Hetalia fandom are females! "Is a female; hates female characters."
-"She's an island!"
What kind of reason is that? Contrary to belief, Seychelles is not an island, but an archipelago(basically a chain of islands. Still, get your facts straight). Why aim your frustrations at a character just because he/she represents an island or archipelago country?
Okay, well I never heard of any reasons to hate Japan, Taiwan, England, Iceland etc... just because they are island countries.
-"I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!"
Firstly, Seychelles' personality is basically: bubbly, cheerful, a good heart, sweet, and nice. I suggest learning more about Seychelles's history and personality before using this reason to hate her.
If you understand Seychelles' history and personality, and you still hate her for how she is portrayed, could it be because she appears OOC(out of character)? If so, remember that it's the Author's doing; if you know for a fact that the real Seychelles would not act like that, perhaps you should try finding better fanfictions that portray her better and ignore the bad fanfictions?
-"Seychelles is totally a useless, unnecessary character!"
Just because a character is a minor character, that doesn't mean that the character is useless or unnecessary. Hetalia is basically a world of personified countries, and even micronations! Sure, Seychelles was neither in Axis nor Allies, but she is still a country. Because she is a country with history with some of the other characters, such as being raised by France etc... she does have at least some importance. She may not have as much appearances compared to the main cast, but she can still be useful. Besides, there are other countries/micronations characters who are still a part of Hetalia who have even less screen-time than Seychelles, such as Australia, Principality of Wy, Romania etc..
-"Although she doesn't do much in the anime, she has a big fan-base!"
Think of it like this: Seychelles is known because she was in the Hetalia game Gakeun Hetalia, which is very popular. She gets to have a few appearances in the manga. She was known as being a popular Hetalia character who got white-washed at first. And also, she's a well-known Hetalia character to receive hate- and because of the hate, some people joined the fan-base in order to give Seychelles more positive attention. Eventually, things add up to why her fan-base may appear big-- but certainly not as big as the other characters.
Besides, there are some characters who did less than Seychelles and did not do much in the anime, yet their fan-base is bigger than Seychelles', such as Hong Kong.
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Comments: 322
VanillaAvalache In reply to ??? [2014-10-25 01:54:47 +0000 UTC]
Why people always say that she is a bitch if she hardly has 5 lines, Some of them are just a few words like Oh or Hi? And there's no love relationships in hetalia. Well, i mean, there are two actually ( I think ) But they have nothing to do with Seychelles. And how the hell is she useless? She is a country!!! Countries arent useless, that's why they exist! So Russia is also useless? I mean they are having a lot of problems, but just because he is a main character he needs respect? ( I dont hate him, he is my 2nd favorite character, the first one is Seychelles)
And if she is the way she is its because seychelles itself is! (Im talking of the country, not the character) Hetalia do that, right? Puts the personality and traditions of the country in the characters. That's why Japan is an otaku, i think. I always see myself in Seychelles and that's why i like her. If she is paired with some other character its because other girls/boys love those characters, Let them be, please. AND Hetalia isnt a yaoi anime, if you want to see yaoi, Go and watch a yaoi anime, because hetalia isnt one. Idk why people doesnt understand that.
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PlasmaCode13 [2014-10-23 01:45:30 +0000 UTC]
It's probably because some fangirls think that the guys are interested in her/like her and here she is skipping around to different guys... Somehow the term "friendship" doesn't exactly exist in the communications between a male and female country XD
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Itsinmybloodyouknow [2014-10-07 02:27:55 +0000 UTC]
Screw It! FRUK IT! The way they treat her is the reason I stay in a corner in a corner of the fandom, not exploring the giant-ass sea that is Hetalia fans! FRUK IT ALL!!!! FRUK IT ALL TO HELL, NORWAY!
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PickleQueenOfNinjas In reply to ??? [2014-09-17 00:56:18 +0000 UTC]
Hetalia needs female characters. I mean, just because yaoi pairings are awesome doesn't mean that female characters need to be nonexistent. I love the female hetalia cast, especially when I find wonderful fanfics with authors who are brilliant at portraying the hetalia cast.
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Maple-Mochi In reply to ??? [2014-09-08 12:26:19 +0000 UTC]
Hey there! I'll be nice here, but kinda, business man style. Alright, you want the explanation why there is still people who dislike Seychelles?
I have the answer : maple-mochi.deviantart.com/jou…
^^ Thanks!
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Cavebat777 In reply to ??? [2014-07-23 06:39:19 +0000 UTC]
What I think it is is that since she dosing have much development as a character that let's people decide what they think she would be like, and because some the fan base of hetalia don't like the females it's all just negative. Is a episode came out staring her and gave us more about her than I think a lot of fans would change there minds
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GiusyRevenge In reply to ??? [2014-07-03 17:28:42 +0000 UTC]
I like her and every female in Hetalia...I love to ship them with the male countries...I'm a multishipper and I even love Hetero! NO HATE FOR FEMALE NATIONS!
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VanillaAvalache In reply to GiusyRevenge [2014-10-25 01:57:49 +0000 UTC]
Yeah, i love RussiaxSeychelles idk why.
Who do you like to ship her?
Sorry my bad english, im not good at it since its not my "Normal" language
Im mexican
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GiusyRevenge In reply to VanillaAvalache [2014-10-25 10:54:54 +0000 UTC]
I love to ship her with Romano...they're so cuteee
Don't worry...that's great!
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VanillaAvalache In reply to GiusyRevenge [2014-10-25 15:37:03 +0000 UTC]
Seychelles and romano.....OMG yes! That's so cuteeeeeeee >w<
Thanks
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GiusyRevenge In reply to VanillaAvalache [2014-10-26 12:54:36 +0000 UTC]
You're welcome...would you like to become friends?
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VanillaAvalache In reply to GiusyRevenge [2014-10-26 17:03:31 +0000 UTC]
Yeaaah I would love to!
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GiusyRevenge In reply to VanillaAvalache [2014-10-26 17:06:38 +0000 UTC]
YYAYAYAY!! I'm so happy!!!
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GiusyRevenge In reply to VanillaAvalache [2014-10-27 12:44:50 +0000 UTC]
yayayayayayyayayayayayayayayayayayyayayayyaya
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SimxRandycunningham In reply to ??? [2014-07-02 03:03:13 +0000 UTC]
I like Seychelles. She's kind of like a female, from a different country, Italy. Both are nice, bubbly, cheerful...
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CarmenCarriedo [2014-06-27 00:24:18 +0000 UTC]
I have to agree with you. Seychelles is a very nice and wonderful girl also there has been a lot of hate on the girls (probably some nyotalia too) I think it's dumb but oh well
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Alicebuni [2014-06-20 18:23:17 +0000 UTC]
I agree, there is absolutely nothing wrong with this character. It's usually the fan bases and the pairings that piss fan girls off the edge thinking that seyshells is a total slut, or other... In other words, people that put their opinions on her personality and stuff make seyshells seem like it's not her real character and the fangirls (not just them) are convinced no matter what cause they don't care. And because she's a female (unlike the other characters that get between a popular ship which are mostly guys) the people (fangirls again) are more likely to get jealous. Jealousy is always the problem especially in situations like this. And correctly like you said, they are fictional characters you are to get over in the future, even though some can't help but like them no matter what...
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buttercupisawesome21 [2014-06-18 06:04:36 +0000 UTC]
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS! It's all true of what you said! Thank you for writing this down and telling those haters that they think hating a character cause of this and that!
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xXBlue-ReaperXx In reply to ??? [2014-06-04 23:35:28 +0000 UTC]
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING THIS DOWN!!!
I get so pissed at the Hetalia fangirls for shunning Seychelles. I actually think she's pretty; I am going to cosplay as her (and see how much people are going to bash me for getting into the way of the "Yaoi" in Hetalia).
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AnaisseSteighart In reply to ??? [2014-05-29 08:06:47 +0000 UTC]
This is so true, not just Seychelles but there are also lots of Taiwan haters. What I only dislike is the fans making the two girls look like huge sluts and hating on them in a story. I also find the part of 'her being paired with "all" characters' hypocritical because it's NOT the characters that pairs HERSELF with the others but the FANS themselves. (I squealed when I heard HK) "I don't like how people portray Seychelles in their fanfictions!" I think that's because the other writers don't know too much of that character and unintentionally makes her look like a mary-sue. "I don't like her because of her skin color!" You're a fucking racist.
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AlextheHuman27 In reply to ??? [2014-05-28 08:24:57 +0000 UTC]
Seychelles haters doesn't really think before even hating her . To be honest, Seychelles is a young country, therefore , she isn't going to date everyone at least . She's just friendly .
But girl , I'm with you
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lillystar1 [2014-04-15 01:14:32 +0000 UTC]
u go girl! that was a great rant to defend seychelles! and its hard to find tan anime characters to cosplay as so i'm so glad she's tan
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YolomorelikeNolo In reply to ??? [2014-04-14 01:51:22 +0000 UTC]
Preach it, sister! This is the best rant I've ever seen and the only one that defens Seychelles (of whom I am a fan).
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XXEMOhetaliafangirlX In reply to ??? [2014-03-25 23:13:50 +0000 UTC]
people need to stop hating seychelles-chan , i mean if you love iggy , france, or any other character seychelles is shipped with ( dear god help these fanbases agree on a ship) then just ship that character with a oc of yours.
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LilChic-San In reply to ??? [2014-03-24 21:09:24 +0000 UTC]
Thank you. Seychelles is recieving wayyy too much hate and it's getting rediculous.
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artist387 In reply to ??? [2014-03-24 20:45:06 +0000 UTC]
You are a genius... finally someone wrote something about the hate!!! You are awesome. And I also cosplay as Seychelles
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artist387 In reply to ??? [2014-03-24 20:41:46 +0000 UTC]
As a cosplay for seychelles I think it's silly. I mean really.... thank you for writing this!!
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HetalianGirlforever In reply to ??? [2014-03-18 05:15:07 +0000 UTC]
I was planning to cosplay seychelles because i think she's adorable, but know thanks to you I love her 30x as much! And i didnt know seychelles got alot of hate. Why would someone hate her when shes just too cute!
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Tiger610 [2014-03-11 19:37:00 +0000 UTC]
:33< i drew her:
tiger610.deviantart.com/art/Se…
:33< well, as cat
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bubblegothgirl1398 [2014-03-01 18:00:48 +0000 UTC]
'Twas studying around for cosplay.
Learned something new today.
*
I became aware of the hate and what others had to say,
and now I'm Team Seychelles, all the way!!!! ^_^/
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KatyMinecraft In reply to ??? [2014-02-27 12:33:14 +0000 UTC]
Now I give you my biggest applause ever ,
You may never know how much I love you now .
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Nekoekko In reply to ??? [2014-01-31 01:51:36 +0000 UTC]
I don't know why people hate her I think she's cute.
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LittleLuckyRiolu [2014-01-30 22:22:49 +0000 UTC]
Do you realise how much I love you right now
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MiyuraWindsong [2014-01-26 10:04:58 +0000 UTC]
"Fun-fact: Excluding the possibility of HREXChibitalia, the majority of pairings are not canon in Hetalia."
What about SuFin? That one's fairly possible :v
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Lalalaprincess In reply to MiyuraWindsong [2014-02-24 06:05:25 +0000 UTC]
Wait, isn't AusHun somewhat canon as they are married as the House of Hapsburg?
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MiyuraWindsong In reply to Lalalaprincess [2014-02-25 02:15:23 +0000 UTC]
Yes and no, because Austria-Hungary is like when the characters are married, but the two countries split away into Austria and Hungary, (This is when fans say they're divorced)
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LauraDanger In reply to MiyuraWindsong [2014-01-26 15:51:21 +0000 UTC]
xP Of course that one is pretty possible.
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MiyuraWindsong In reply to LauraDanger [2014-01-27 00:33:05 +0000 UTC]
Yeah! ^-^
but I honestly don't understand how people could hate a fictional character... they need to grow up.
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HetaliaFangirl00 [2014-01-23 01:41:18 +0000 UTC]
*claps* You deserve an award. Or more. At least 5 of them. Thank you.
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SabrinaMartinez In reply to ??? [2014-01-21 02:56:03 +0000 UTC]
Wow this journal is just amazing
But poor Seychelles she is just too cute to be hated on
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LauraDanger In reply to SabrinaMartinez [2014-01-21 03:58:41 +0000 UTC]
;u; Thanks!
And agreed~3
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SabrinaMartinez In reply to LauraDanger [2014-01-21 04:22:52 +0000 UTC]
You are very welcome
Yes she is too cute and she will always be one of my favorite characters in hetalia
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BlackAndWhiteTiger [2014-01-11 13:03:32 +0000 UTC]
I just want to congratulate you for this journal ^^
Let me hug you
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LauraDanger In reply to BlackAndWhiteTiger [2014-01-21 03:58:54 +0000 UTC]
*Huggles back!* Thank you. ;u;
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BlackAndWhiteTiger In reply to LauraDanger [2014-01-21 14:10:08 +0000 UTC]
you're welcome dear ^W^
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EpicPicasso In reply to ??? [2014-01-04 23:47:15 +0000 UTC]
Now if only the rest of the Hetalia fangirls could read this! By the way thank you for the terrific explanation! I can now spread the word to my yaoi crazy friends!
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